NationStates Jolt Archive

With the rise of terrorism and conflicts around the world, the Gilabadian government has ordered the mass production of WMDs. The main production facility is at Fort Yaffa. These weapons include (with the exception of nuclear since we already have stockpiles of it)...

Chemical

-Sarin
-VX
-Tabun
-Phosgene
-Mustard Gas
-cyanide

Biological

-Anthrax
-ricin
-Tulermia
-smallpox
-Ebola
-salmonella
-Plaque
-Asian Bird Flu
-Mycotoxin
-Botullinum

exactly how are WMDs supposed to protect you from the thousands, small, seperate terrorist cells there are around the world? Just seems to me that you want an excuse to build them.

Not terrorists so much as rogue nations.

With the rise of terrorism and conflicts around the world, the Gilabadian government has ordered the mass production of WMDs. The main production facility is at Fort Yaffa. These weapons include (with the exception of nuclear since we already have stockpiles of it)...

Chemical

-Sarin
-VX
-Tabun
-Phosgene
-Mustard Gas
-cyanide

Biological

-Anthrax
-ricin
-Tulermia
-smallpox
-Ebola
-salmonella
-Plaque
-Asian Bird Flu
-Mycotoxin
-Botullinum

(OOC Salmonella?.. Do you know how completely useless that is?)

(OOC Salmonella?.. Do you know how completely useless that is?)

OOC: I second that... It causes food posioning... Gilabad, do you expect to give your foes explosive diarrhoea?

OOC: The Republic of Total Victory is more concerned about the pandemic of gingivitis that could result should Gilabad unleash its stores of weaponized plaque.

IC:

The Ministry of Peace strongly discourages the development of a biological and chemical weapons program. Nuclear armaments are a sufficient and more controllable deterrent to rogue nations, while other WMD's are unpredictable and can potentially cause global havoc.

We plan to use Salmonnela as an incapacitory agent. If we don't want to kill whoever we target, we can incapacitate them. We have vaccines for all EXCEPT Ebola. We plan to use them not so much as a tactical purpose but for indiscriminate use such as for wiping out a country. The use of non-epidemic bio-agents is for when we don't want to start an outbreak but for targeted extermination.

(OOC: Additionally, do you know how hard it would be to actually mass-produce biological weapons? It's not exactly something you can do on an assembly line.)

(OOC: Additionally, do you know how hard it would be to actually mass-produce biological weapons? It's not exactly something you can do on an assembly line.)

OOC: *Shrugs* Luxembourg manages to do it OK.

OOC: Biological weapons are, in the long run, not effective tools of war. They burn out too fast, and if the authorities are willing to take drastic measures (such as restriction of transportation and quarantines), then the disease kills a few hundred, and then begins to die off, rather quickly. Some viruses (virii?) such as Ebola get progressively less deadly as they spread, such that the first person infected (with fresh virus strains) will probably die, but by the fourth or fifth person the virus passes to, they have a pretty good chance at life, and by the seventh they probably won't suffer much more than flu-like sypmtoms, if that.

That said, they are an effective way to frighten your enemy and cause panic among the populace, and that is in many ways just as good as killing a bunch of people. As far as a bodycount, though, nuclear and even chemical weapons are superior.

Actually biological weapons are relatively easy to mass produce. That's why Saddam Hussein favored biology over chemical or nuclear because it's simple to produce and can have nuclear effects. If it's a bacterium, all you need is for it to form an endospore and it will survive long enough to get into the human body. With a virus, you need a live dispersal component such as an animal or a human.

I'm going to laugh like the true dictator i am.
MuHAHAHA!!

Now my laugh is over. Could you produce some WMD in my nation??

Ah sure I'll give you 20,000 kilos of each for free.

It was a slow day for the High King, which was perhaps why this matter had drawn her notice. She shrugged, and headed down to the Diplomatic Service, taking the thirty flights of ancient stairs into the midsection of the spire that was the Tower of Kings, at the top of Wye City, which rose in tiers up the southwestern flank of Reyna, its top veiled in clouds.

“So, what does this mean?”

The man blinked, stared at the data feed for what was now twelve…”I don’t know,” he shrugged. “Maybe they’re trying to stop some aggressor on their border, maybe they’re trying to show their power to the world, or maybe they’ve got plans to gas some minority they don’t like. Hell, for all I know they’re just trying to get attention. This entire damn world is insane, milady,” he added the deferential after a momentary pause. “I suggest poking them. It’s not like our countermeasures can’t handle some gas.”

Kira sighed, nodded. It’d be interesting to see what would come of this and, after a few decades of war the FDK did have quite a good stockpile of various items that would stop such things as this new nation professed to have.

Document ID == 1007.A945.DF1F.6707
Priority == 2
Encryption == null
DefPack == WMD
Origin == Office of the King, First Distributed Kingdom
Destination == Gilabadi government
Subject line == Weapons program

The First Distirbuted Kingdom of Weyr condemns these blatant acts of warmongering, and kindly requests that the entity of Gilabad cease its distribution of nuclear, biological, and/or chemical weaponry. Defense against any state or entity never requires the termination of that entity's noncombatant population, and such actions will be viewed in the most critical and unforgiving light should they be performed by Gilabad or any state that profits from Gilabadi weapons program. Furthermore, it has been shown repeatedly that government and military leaders rarely succumb to wide-scale weapons such as those being produced by Gilabad. In addition, it has been shown that anti-civilian weapons will impede few states in any significant manner. With most military states possessing countermeasures for potential methods of distribution of any biochemical and especially nuclear agents, the FDK fails to see how such weapons will deter potential aggressor states.

The FDK thus does officially request that the entity knows as Gilabad cease its distribution of said weapons. While the Distributed Kingdom respects the right of any state to arm itself as it pleases, it does not recognize the right of any entity to distribute those weapons to states that have not shown they are capable of responsibly possessing them. Such distribution does, indeed, go against the Gilabadi claim that its weapons program shall be used to protect its people against rogue states. Unless Gilabad can credibly claim that it can monitor the weapons it distributes once said weapons leave its shores, the FDK sees an apparent and undeniable disparity between Gilabadi claimed and actual motives.

As such, the FDK requests that the entity of Gilabad clarify its recent actions, and expand on its future plans for its weapons program. Failure to comply with the above request will be considered grounds for increased measures to halt Gilabadi distribution of its wide-scale weapons stockpile.

Sincerely,
Kira li'Starhavven, High King

Ah sure I'll give you 20,000 kilos of each for free.

Excellent...Maybe you want a joint-manufacturing of these weapons

I can build WMDs whenever I feel like it. Let me remind you, they are defense purposes. So there you have it.

OOC:
@Gilabad: I assume that last post was IC. No, I don't know for sure you're spreading the damn things, but the transfer of a few hundred tons of toxic gas and bacteria wouldn't be be very hard to detect. That aside, you'd need only four or so tons of Sarin to kill the populace of a large city and be sure it stays dead.

Document ID == 1007.A945.DF1F.6792
Priority == 2
Encryption == null
DefPack == WMD
Origin == Office of the King, First Distributed Kingdom
Destination == Gilabadi government
Subject line == Weapons program

It is the right of any state, Gilabad included, to manufature whatever it is they wish to produce within their territories. In the case of the types of weapons which you have chosen to flaunt in the face of the world, however, I believe that you have shown neither the common sense nor the responsibility that should accompany them.

The Kingdom's sources suggest, as I have stated before, that you may be attempting to distirbute your weapons stockiles to other states. No, I do not 'have it', as you have put it. Your actions do endanger the welfare of Weyrean citizens, and as such any attempts on your behalf to spread your weapons stockpiles will be viewed as an act of war.

Sincerely,
Kira li'Starhavven, High King

Somewhere in the Terran sky, several spheres of composite and metal and rod logic stacks adjusted their orbital paths.

The small, melon-sized ball that was ObSat0991 dropped lower, on a suicidal course that would take it over Gilabad once every hour, lower and lower with every pass, providing higher and higher resolution untilit would burn, taking detailed snapshots of the nation's suspected biochemical sites. The satellite felt a strange sense of what could perhaps be described as sadness, knowing that soon it would no longer be able to perform its assigned task. In a few hours, its sister satellite took a slightly different path through the same skies.

Are these sattelites supposed to be alive or something, I have never known a computer that can have feelings.

As the orbiting sattelites passed over Gilabadian air space, Gilabad scrambled its nearest squadron of F-22s to intercept the sattelite.

"Unidentified object, you have entered into Gilabadian air space, deviate from your path immediately!"

OOC: It makes the machine work better if it has motivation, and giving automatons personalities is amusing. For the record, what type of F-22 can even reach a satellite? Well, assuming you don't have ASAT equipment stashed on all of your airforce bases >.>

Control of the FDK’s surveillance assets was split between the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Self Defense Force command. In the middle section of the spire that was the Tower of Kings, the night shift officer leaned over the technician’s console.

"Sir, they're," the tech glanced at his screen, looked up. "They're, um," he glanced again at the displays. "I believe they're trying to intercept satellites with...."

"Yes?" the on-duty officer sighed.

"Eff-twenty-twos, sir," the tech finished. "We're getting a shaky feed from the higher Obs, but I'm fairly sure that's what they are."

The officer blinked, trying to sort out the words. Intercept, satellite, and air superiority fighter just didn't seem to work in the same sentence. "Can we get a better look?"

He was quite intrigued by the concept of taking down a very small object going at a very high velocity with a machine that had both a lower recorded flight ceiling, and a lower operational velocity, and which was designed as an air superiority fighter, not an anti-satellite platform. Granted, not all machines were alike, the officer knew, which was why a few moments later they got to watch the first observational satellite start to burn up in the atmosphere from forty thousand kilometers above.

That someone was trying to actually talk to that same small metal sphere had gone quit unnoticed. Space and mass were always at a premium in such low-cost surveillance solutions, and putting communications equipment beyond the standard data feed had been completely out of the question for what was in the end just an expensive, remotely operated photo camera.