NationStates Jolt Archive

Though I'll be the first to admit I was a rather late-coming individual to FT (I entered in the middle of the Shivan Wars), I do remember enough about it to realize just how dead independent FT is. Not to bash it, but all we really have in any significant quantity are Star Wars RPs, and even then it centers far too much around the jedi. Again, I have no problem with this, but it seems that the unique civilizations who made their own techs, histories, etc have all but disappeared. I haven't seen anything larger than a small bit out of Mekanta or his ESUS ilk in forever, nor have I seen much movement in the form of AoN members. I haven't, in fact, seen much of anything out of the unique civilizations in a long, long time.

Also, I know it is mostly to do with the lack of any kind of over-arching story to promote activity at the moment, something I would be glad to fix if I could know it would raise activity.

Regardless, are you guys still out there?

I may take inspirations every so often from some other sources. Like the idea behind certain techs and the like, but the stuff I use is made up (To my knowledge anyway.) My history, military, my own heros are my own creation. If I ever copied anything, it was unintentional, or necesary, (Take the idea of warp drive and the other sci-fi elements that are all pretty standard stuff now.). I don't use the whole force idea, and frankly find it a little bit silly, although I'm fine RPing with others who use it. The look and feel of my race I've tried to make as original as possible.

So yes, I'm sure that there are still a few of us around.

The Guilds are seamless throughout all forms. We use Star Trek tech, recognize the force, use Star Wars tech, take inspiration from Deus Ex, add in some of our own, ect. ect.

I tend not to associate myself singularly with any sci-fi mileu, instead allowing for all and making my own.

-OOC-
I've been busy. But don't worry, I've been slowly working my way back to posting as Neo-Mekanta. And the original Mekanta is about to unleash the first hints of something... big...

So yeah, I'm not gone. Just... taking a break... (Frelling college...)


(Yeah, I'm going to start getting together all the FT powers I associate with to plan a big RP using Mekanta's new Harbinger, if anyone is interested. MSM: machinakyrios@hotmail.com)

I am 100% original tech, I do my best to avoid the stereo-typical Wars and Trek stuff...however I have debated adding in elements of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

I draw my tech from a variety of non-Trek/Wars novels as well as adding my own customizations to it.

My tech is entirely individual, if partially inspired by a variety of sources. I tried to be different, since I don't like having the same junk as everybody else.

And I agree, being non-Star Wars, there is a lack of proper FT RPs to join in with. Half the ones which are around are intros, or cannot concern me ICly, due to the circumstances I have created for my system.

Though I'll be the first to admit I was a rather late-coming individual to FT (I entered in the middle of the Shivan Wars), I do remember enough about it to realize just how dead independent FT is. Not to bash it, but all we really have in any significant quantity are Star Wars RPs, and even then it centers far too much around the jedi. Again, I have no problem with this, but it seems that the unique civilizations who made their own techs, histories, etc have all but disappeared. I haven't seen anything larger than a small bit out of Mekanta or his ESUS ilk in forever, nor have I seen much movement in the form of AoN members. I haven't, in fact, seen much of anything out of the unique civilizations in a long, long time.

Also, I know it is mostly to do with the lack of any kind of over-arching story to promote activity at the moment, something I would be glad to fix if I could know it would raise activity.

Regardless, are you guys still out there?


You know I'm still alive and kicking. The closest I get to using SW tech is borrowing some of the theoretical mechanisms put forth by the likes of Dr. Saxton for my FTL drives and the like.

And I quite frankly find the Force power wanking that goes on appaling. Not to mention the huge influx of Sith nations leading up to the release of Ep 3. I understand why people like CoreWorlds have uber-powerful Jedi to balance it out. Although I do still find them to be unappealing to myself.

Oh and CoreWorlds, I have nothing against you. I just find the Masaki's to be very wanky, you're a great RPer though.

Me and many other members of the Republic(my region) are unique techs. I myself am 100% pure originality. You may not see many posts by us at the minute because we have a new law that you can't post without permission from the senate but we will be having a large war RP soon. I think it will be open, if you wanted to join, go ahead. Hopefully it will start a trend in unique FT nations.

I tend to use techs from Shows like Andromedia and Farscape and Stargate. I try to stay away from Starwars techs.

I'm fairly new to FT so far. However, I've stuck to using custom creations, though I may base them (mostly to make them not overpowered) partly on existing Sci-Fi elements.

All of my tech is unique. (though sometimes i might reuse a name or look, all of my abilities are new.)

I'm here, but mostly occupied with three things: School, A character RP with Klonor, and an insular ESUS only RP that we'll eventually transplant here.

OCC:Though I do dip abit in Halo tech and StarCraft as well as Macross/Robotech I tend to redesign most of it and creat my own personel versions. Also all of my heros/main characters are all based off my own writing and abit of outside influences.

My technology tree is quite unique. I just choose to get into StarWars RPs because they're practically the only ones out there that post with any frequency.

What about Indra Prime and the Temporal Accord?

Well, eventually I'll get around to developing the Federation a little more, such as the people, the motivations, the culture, etc. This will likely begin in July, after I get back from Turkey...

You can then expect several RPs developing the nation, all leading up to the Civil War.

I am still Indie, for My history was designed by me, the culture, and the whole government structure. My ships at first were influenced by Farscape, but their designs I have modified to make them independant, and currently my new ships are of my own design and like two of my ship designs are from other peoples ideas. I have completely designed the technical aspects of my nations. Although Sebecean is derived and inspired from Farscape's Sebacean, it has evovled and now is completely different from the Farscape version except for the human appearance and a one letter differance in the species name. I recognize the technology of others, but we do not understand the force, and to us is just a pathetic religion. So basically I am as independant as you can get.

I don't mean to say you guys don't exist anymore, I mean activity has dropped off quite close to zero.

Of course, I guess it will pick up again during the summer, so that makes sense. I'll be re-picking up my Airlia concept around that time, as well.

Oh we are still here, despite the ripoff of all of our Temporal Tech. All of our designs are unique as well as their abilities.

Ah well most of us old FT nations are surounded by very few FT RPs. The fact that almoat every RP out there I see seems to be for MT only or PMT only realy dosn't help ether and the odd ten for FT aswell as the rest of the tech levels. Though hopefuly it does pick up during the summer and my writers block goes away so I can get my AE civil war back on track and have nice little bloody and hellish assaults made on Phalanix by there own creations.

All my tech is very much my own. I'd post more often, but I'm generally rather busy with school, etc.

Can someone explain to me how and what you are supposed to do in the war/role playing thread?

How are the wars handled, etc etc. Please PM/Telegram my nation. Thank you.

I'm still active, but my free time is split between this other RP sites, and I've not been feeling great as of late, to boot.

I've still got an active RP going here on II, however, and future plans mainly call for a move to smaller scale RPs.

Nope, fully origional here, I created my history, Heros, main characters, technology. Sure I don't know the possibility of my stuff, but then who does?

Nope, fully origional here, I created my history, Heros, main characters, technology. Sure I don't know the possibility of my stuff, but then who does?

Quite a few people do in fact know the possibility of their technologies. The vast majority is impossible, some is mathmatically possible but practically impossible and other things are perfetly possible.

Ghargonia is all me. Thought up most of it before coming to NS. Although, I'm not really very active, well-known or respected, so I'm not sure how much your life will have been improved by my saying that... :confused:

TIN's tech is 90% original. The only thing I've stolen tech from is my fave game - Skies of Arcadia.

The rest was painstakingly developed over the course of 6 months by yours truly. See my factbook (Link in siggy) For examples.

Though I'll be the first to admit I was a rather late-coming individual to FT (I entered in the middle of the Shivan Wars), I do remember enough about it to realize just how dead independent FT is. Not to bash it, but all we really have in any significant quantity are Star Wars RPs, and even then it centers far too much around the jedi. Again, I have no problem with this, but it seems that the unique civilizations who made their own techs, histories, etc have all but disappeared. I haven't seen anything larger than a small bit out of Mekanta or his ESUS ilk in forever, nor have I seen much movement in the form of AoN members. I haven't, in fact, seen much of anything out of the unique civilizations in a long, long time.

Also, I know it is mostly to do with the lack of any kind of over-arching story to promote activity at the moment, something I would be glad to fix if I could know it would raise activity.

Regardless, are you guys still out there?


I RP, still. YAforite technology is 99.9% original, with a few JEdi so I can RP with Coreworlds.

I find the overuse of technology from ST, SW and W40k to be all too true. I came into FT with the idea that anything goes, and a person with a plan for a highly detailed, extremely unique spacefleet could make a name for himself. I soon found out that it only creates problems, because too much originality leads to confusion. Especially among those with no imagination.
But I still am 100% original, I haven't taken anything from anybody. No popular TV shows or books or video games. Any pictures are all my own. We need to get an orginization. So that we could back eachother up. If some ST/SW/W40k person tries to uberwank his genre of choice, we indies can come to eachother's ooc aid.
Independant tech is a lot more un than ripping off other people's ideas, and I actually hope to someday make my stuff a known brand. Maybe write some books based on Al-Imvadjah & the NS community.

As the original Shivan nation, I can say that I have been tempted to organise another invasion however being the big nasty Galactic Empire that I am its hard to find the time. But I suppose I could enslave the Galaxy again…….

Star Wars RP’s are everywhere because they are great fun. The masakis are being slowly eliminated. In just one month I have killed two of them. Jennifer Masaki and Daniel Masaki.

Though the Shivan wars well, well, SHIT HOT FUN, most of the tech has been countered against and their unique advantage lost, though I do have a few ideas to sort that out which will take place when I have more time, primarily over the summer. But I assure everyone the Shivans are not gone, merely, regenerating……

Good, I've always wanted to fight the "Shivan Menace"... And my ships are probably pretty suceptble to whatever they use, since I've never seen them in action.

As the original Shivan nation, I can say that I have been tempted to organise another invasion however being the big nasty Galactic Empire that I am its hard to find the time. But I suppose I could enslave the Galaxy again…….

Star Wars RP’s are everywhere because they are great fun. The masakis are being slowly eliminated. In just one month I have killed two of them. Jennifer Masaki and Daniel Masaki.

Though the Shivan wars well, well, SHIT HOT FUN, most of the tech has been countered against and their unique advantage lost, though I do have a few ideas to sort that out which will take place when I have more time, primarily over the summer. But I assure everyone the Shivans are not gone, merely, regenerating……

I hate that bloody, "Need to specially counter my weapons" crap. It makes no bloody sense.

And I must say that majority of posts in SW Rp's read like 3rd grade stories that got a failing grade. Seriously people, no one gives a damn what the main character ate for lunch, and when you tell people useless crap like that it detracts from the story. Very few people make, yourself included US, write good posts.


As for myself, I use names and pictures from other sci-fi universes occasionaly. Especially for ground units since I can't draw worth a damn and Halo guns and infantry look so damn cool.

There have been a large number of Star Wars RPs going on. But whats wrong with that? They are great fun.

Now that school is finishing up soon. I do plan to make a history for my nation. And an actual factbook and all that other fun stuff. When I get some time to do it. Right now I am using old style trek tech. But over the crouse of the summer I do plan to change that. To where I shall only be using things I've thought up. Using Star Wars tech or Star Trek tech is fun.... for awhile. But there are things I've been wanting to try.

Bring back the shivians! I remeber thats when I went FT, those were some damm fun threads.

I find the overuse of technology from ST, SW and W40k to be all too true. I came into FT with the idea that anything goes, and a person with a plan for a highly detailed, extremely unique spacefleet could make a name for himself. I soon found out that it only creates problems, because too much originality leads to confusion. Especially among those with no imagination.
But I still am 100% original, I haven't taken anything from anybody. No popular TV shows or books or video games. Any pictures are all my own. We need to get an orginization. So that we could back eachother up. If some ST/SW/W40k person tries to uberwank his genre of choice, we indies can come to eachother's ooc aid.
Independant tech is a lot more un than ripping off other people's ideas, and I actually hope to someday make my stuff a known brand. Maybe write some books based on Al-Imvadjah & the NS community.

My nation is actually based off of a story I've been designing for the last five years.

Label me lazy, but I don't think I've ever going to get to writing any real novels off of it. Still, I have dozens of pages of history and short stories on it.

You know I'm still alive and kicking. The closest I get to using SW tech is borrowing some of the theoretical mechanisms put forth by the likes of Dr. Saxton for my FTL drives and the like.

And I quite frankly find the Force power wanking that goes on appaling. Not to mention the huge influx of Sith nations leading up to the release of Ep 3. I understand why people like CoreWorlds have uber-powerful Jedi to balance it out. Although I do still find them to be unappealing to myself.

Oh and CoreWorlds, I have nothing against you. I just find the Masaki's to be very wanky, you're a great RPer though.
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How did you know I was going to read that? You're precognitative! (J/k!)

Anyway, yeah, I tend to have my characters real powerful in order to stand toe-to-toe against the likes of the Sith, but then I do tend to downplay their powers when up against others NOT Sith.

I'm FT, just most no one knows about me. I've taken stuff from shows and such, generaly minor stuff that started as the basis and elaborated on that.

I am a huge fan of David Drake, David Weber, S. M. Stirling, and others in the litterary field and have also borrowed liberally from them as well.

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How did you know I was going to read that? You're precognitative! (J/k!)

Anyway, yeah, I tend to have my characters real powerful in order to stand toe-to-toe against the likes of the Sith, but then I do tend to downplay their powers when up against others NOT Sith.

True, true. Anyway, I'd still like to do an RP with you and the GE if at all possible within the next few months.

I hate that bloody, "Need to specially counter my weapons" crap. It makes no bloody sense.


The only thing we countered with tech was the subspace shields, which we *had* to do because they were invulnerable otherwise.

I've always been a FT nation but have only appeared in a few RP's.

I use Halo tech (Humans) but it isn't very advanced ;)

When was the last time we wrote what our characters ate for lunch? This is simple roleplaying, and it is in International Incidents. I am the head of a major alliance and top ranking in a modern tech alliance, I do not have lots of time to write amazingly detailed posts, unless I’m using Bob-Bob in the Nationstates forum (Where upon writing for Bob-Bob I ignore II), which if you have a look the writing is a lot better than in II.

We do not write what the character had for lunch as we usually write about the main political features of the RP. How did I know that you would be an exception. Get off of your damn high horse and grow up, no one asked for you to criticise, no one wants you to criticise, I expect you’re just a little bitter in not being able to rp with us SW players, after all, everyone knows of, and likes us…. What about you????

Thirdly, this was a thread asking about what’s happened to Future Tech, why did you feel the need to start criticising in public? Make specific examples, and then compare yourself to everyone else, and that how good you are and how crap others are.

Upon your little attack upon our Established and well used genre, I decided to do a little search on your name, oh and look what I found insult after insult after critique after critique…. Do you have a single nice thing to say on this forum at all?

Complete and uter grade A Bullshit. Science and technology is evolutionary not revolutionary. Quantum mechanics didn't overturn classical mechanics. Relativity didn't render Newtonian gravity worthless. And he Laws of Thermodynamics won't just go away if you have some fancy technology.

And when did you become quite the expert? When did you learn all about Thermodynamics? I can tell you now that the laws of thermodynamics do not operate continuously throughout the universe, they are subject to change, but you will find that out in your second year of University.

The Wanking, it BURNS!

It seems you only target SW players in your critique, as one of the leading players in the Nationstates SW genre, I think I can safely ask you to F-OFF, and cease with your insults.

*For a second thought you were insulting me* ;)

But, I used to do SW tech and it was great.

And yes, since the new movie is coming out people are going SW crazy :D

*For a second thought you were insulting me* ;)

But, I used to do SW tech and it was great.

And yes, since the new movie is coming out people are going SW crazy :D

Well Unified Sith has been Star Wars ever since it moved to FT. These impostors will be subjugated quickly enough.

Oooh, the broad smack of the cold hard truth...

Luckily not a bit of mine is ST SW inspired.

Neal Asher,
Peter F. Hamilton,
Joel Shepherd,

Search these authors.

I am a mix of their tech.

Offers a unique perspective on the universe. Most of the books by these people feature some huge political upheaval. Mmm. Oh, and the origin is very much homegrown.

The only thing we countered with tech was the subspace shields, which we *had* to do because they were invulnerable otherwise.

That invulnerable shields thing bugs me too as it is also a stupid idea. Nothing is invulnerable, and anyone who says that something of their's is is a liar.

When was the last time we wrote what our characters ate for lunch? This is simple roleplaying, and it is in International Incidents.

I was exagerating on that point using it as one example. In almost every SW thread I've read, most of which I have thoroughly enjoyed by the way, there has been at least one post that adds nothing to the plot, or deepens our understanding of the character and serves as nothing but a +1 post count. Among those are times when the characters are having a political discussion in a restaurant and a whole post just tells that the character chose to eat a Bantha burger over Spaghetti. Why not just wait a few minutes and think of a better post than just throwing the first thing that comes to your head on the forum?

And why does the fact that it's in II mean that it doesn't deserve a decent post?

I am the head of a major alliance and top ranking in a modern tech alliance, I do not have lots of time to write amazingly detailed posts, unless I’m using Bob-Bob in the Nationstates forum (Where upon writing for Bob-Bob I ignore II), which if you have a look the writing is a lot better than in II.

The difference between a good post and a crappy post can be as little as an extra minute of thought. Of course maybe I'm just alone in thinking that people want their writing to be at their best no matter where it is.

We do not write what the character had for lunch as we usually write about the main political features of the RP.

I already adressed the lunch aspect above.

How did I know that you would be an exception. Get off of your damn high horse and grow up, no one asked for you to criticise, no one wants you to criticise

It's called freedom of speech, maybe you've heard of it? I'm entitled to my opinion and am entitled to voice it, just as you are. Sometimes people's opinions are critical and upsetting to others, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be expressed.

In short, bite me.


I expect you’re just a little bitter in not being able to rp with us SW players, after all, everyone knows of, and likes us…. What about you????

I have tried RPing with you, and have been ignored. So yeah I guess I have a rightfully earned grudge.

Thirdly, this was a thread asking about what’s happened to Future Tech, why did you feel the need to start criticising in public? Make specific examples, and then compare yourself to everyone else, and that how good you are and how crap others are.

I voiced my opinion, it was a critical one and one that dealt with FT and hence applicable to the topic. I know I can write better than quite a few of the shown posts in numerous SW RPs. I know I can also suck worse than them.

So again, bite me.

Upon your little attack upon our Established and well used genre, I decided to do a little search on your name, oh and look what I found insult after insult after critique after critique…. Do you have a single nice thing to say on this forum at all?

I do indeed have nice things to say, and have said them. Why just in this thread I have called CW and you good RPers. But as it always seems to go, my positive posts are more easily forgoten then when I argue with someone.


And when did you become quite the expert? When did you learn all about Thermodynamics? I can tell you now that the laws of thermodynamics do not operate continuously throughout the universe, they are subject to change, but you will find that out in your second year of University.

Yes yes, in black holes the laws of physics as we know them break down. And if someone wants to put their ship in a black hole so that they can get energy from nothing and build perpetual motion machines they can go right on ahead. I just hope they like being torn apart by tidal forces for what seems like all eternity thanks to time dilation.

However, that does not mean that you can go to Alpha Centauri and all of a sudden the Laws of Thermodynamics no longer apply. It doesn't matter what kind of technology you have, you will never get energy from nothing or 100% effeciency or be able to build a perpetual motion machine. And tell me, how does not neing able to do those things in any way harm RPs?


It seems you only target SW players in your critique, as one of the leading players in the Nationstates SW genre, I think I can safely ask you to F-OFF, and cease with your insults.

Untrue, I call anything I think is wanky as such. It just seems that people in SW do more wanky things, like having a family of uber-jedi that can teleport and can escape death, see the CW/Godular "Surprised to be dead" thread.

So in conclusion, Fuck You.

I must point out Daniel's still dead and will remain so for the RL summer.

I must point out Daniel's still dead and will remain so for the RL summer.

But he's obviously still coming back, thus avoiding death. A such my point and opinion stands.

But he's obviously still coming back, thus avoiding death. A such my point and opinion stands.
Fair enough. In an RP of a time before his death, Daniel's got his wrist broken, anyway. *OW!*

Ladies calm down. If you feel the need to argue please do it in TGs or over a messenger service. And I to have some minor problems with SW players sometimes but most of the time the SW player will tone down there "uber-jedi" to even the floor other times I gotta break out my "hero" characters who can in a sense be a equil to the jedi/sith if need be.

And I to have some minor problems with SW players sometimes but most of the time the SW player will tone down there "uber-jedi" to even the floor other times I gotta break out my "hero" characters who can in a sense be a equil to the jedi/sith if need be.

Simple solution to over-powered force users; jamm them.

Just like folks created FTLi to deal with issues surrounding the use of faster-than-light and 'otherspace' drives in combat, do some IC research into the force and create a device to jamm or dampen it. Either to reduce their abilities or cut them off entirly.

You can even make an RP of it; I'm sure force-user nations would love to put a stop to research of that ilk, either overtly with their navy or, better yet, ala covert-ops.

'course, you ought to have some IC precident for persuing such a project.

Simple solution to over-powered force users; jamm them.

Just like folks created FTLi to deal with issues surrounding the use of faster-than-light and 'otherspace' drives in combat, do some IC research into the force and create a device to jamm or dampen it. Either to reduce their abilities or cut them off entirly.

You can even make an RP of it; I'm sure force-user nations would love to put a stop to research of that ilk, either overtly with their navy or, better yet, ala covert-ops.

'course, you ought to have some IC precident for persuing such a project.
Unified Sith's the only one so far with such Force Inhibitors, which is how he was able to defeat Daniel in the first place, and he won't take kindly to others trying to copy it. You'll definitely need to go to Myrkr and find the Force-bubble ysalimari, but I assure you that it's illegal to export the creatures, and they don't last long unless you're able to shell out the cash needed to build artificial environments.

Neural inhibitors work well, but a Master can probably overpower it. A statis field like the one Obi-Wan was locked up in in the AOTC movie would be better to use. Not even my man Daniel could defeat a statis field!

Wow very interesting solution there. I'll put it into thought and use the recent apperences of all these sith nations to may advantage. Since my nation realy dosn't have a very fond postion on the Sith (the Sith war was not very good for moral) finding a way to netralize there use of the force would make my troopers far more effective. Thanks again.

EDIT:Well that just killed it. Damn you US! But meh most of the time I just gotta break out my half-demon super soldier.

I'm FT, just most no one knows about me. I've taken stuff from shows and such, generaly minor stuff that started as the basis and elaborated on that.

I am a huge fan of David Drake, David Weber, S. M. Stirling, and others in the litterary field and have also borrowed liberally from them as well.

I know about you. You hacking into my government systems, right?

Seriously, guys, if you are so angry about SW technology, eridadicate it. Destroy all SW nations. At least, it'd make a good RP.

Yafor is that before or after you get horibly gang raped by several dozen SW nations and friends? Though it would be fairly funny to watch happen to some poor sap nation.

Unified Sith's the only one so far with such Force Inhibitors, which is how he was able to defeat Daniel in the first place, and he won't take kindly to others trying to copy it. You'll definitely need to go to Myrkr and find the Force-bubble ysalimari, but I assure you that it's illegal to export the creatures, and they don't last long unless you're able to shell out the cash needed to build artificial environments.

Neural inhibitors work well, but a Master can probably overpower it. A statis field like the one Obi-Wan was locked up in in the AOTC movie would be better to use. Not even my man Daniel could defeat a statis field!

Which is why my people act like super Ysalimiri and render ALL psi powers null and void within a 5 meter radius of themselves. And when two or more people are withing said radius the radius increases according to r = 5N where N is the number of people inside the psi blocking area. For example if 2 people are within 5 meters of each other each of their psi-null radius is 10 meters, if a third enters either of their 10 meter radius it becomes 15 meters and so on.

Unified Sith's the only one so far with such Force Inhibitors, which is how he was able to defeat Daniel in the first place, and he won't take kindly to others trying to copy it. You'll definitely need to go to Myrkr and find the Force-bubble ysalimari, but I assure you that it's illegal to export the creatures, and they don't last long unless you're able to shell out the cash needed to build artificial environments.

Neural inhibitors work well, but a Master can probably overpower it. A statis field like the one Obi-Wan was locked up in in the AOTC movie would be better to use. Not even my man Daniel could defeat a statis field!

Yer thinking too finite; there are a dozen ways to any end. Why, my ASPEW feilds void the force already, although that's more of a side-effect, and not an exportible tech.

Are there still jedi on Kyoto? The ASPEW-free parts, that is. I smell an exportible technology, and road to RP.

And US is welcome to -try- and stop me; I'd welcome it, in fact, provided he agreed to drop his stupid habbit of 'Ignore'-ing me whenever he felt like it, without valid justification.

Of course, I'm not going to copy it; I'm going to invent something of my own - Kanuckistan has a long history of similar technologies.

Kanuckistan, do you use MSN or any form of AIM at all? As I would like to have a chat ^_^

If you can't download MSN messenger you can use a web based MSN, called web messenger, all you need to have is an msn passport...

Yafor is that before or after you get horibly gang raped by several dozen SW nations and friends? Though it would be fairly funny to watch happen to some poor sap nation.

That the thing. My friends don't play NS, and all the Jedi nations are my allies (I held Chronosia and Doomingland off for 2 years NS time) and all the Sith nations hate me anyway.

Plus, it was a joke. I love SW in RL.

That the thing. My friends don't play NS, and all the Jedi nations are my allies (I held Chronosia and Doomingland off for 2 years NS time) and all the Sith nations hate me anyway.

Plus, it was a joke. I love SW in RL.

NaaaUhhhhh.... I love you ^_^

(Huge Blush ) [Jessica Rabbit voice]"Yes Yafor that was me, hacking happily into your cyber systems...I'm not bad, I was programmed that way"[/Jessica Rabbit voice]

Sha'Do is an AI that was sentienced to be the ultimate cyber hacker. Amoral should be her middle name.

Aw damnit now I feel left out jsut like in the Sith War that I got involved in. Meh time to think of some way to get a anti-force system going. -goes abck to his little hole with internet and a computer-

NaaaUhhhhh.... I love you ^_^

Really? I didn't know that. I thought you sentanced me to annialhation, but that might just have been me. ;)

(Huge Blush ) [Jessica Rabbit voice]"Yes Yafor that was me, hacking happily into your cyber systems...I'm not bad, I was programmed that way"[/Jessica Rabbit voice]

Sha'Do is an AI that was sentienced to be the ultimate cyber hacker. Amoral should be her middle name.

*snaps fingers* I knew it! Though I did revamp my cyber systems. Y'see the code has been changed from 11 million digits to - wait, why am I telling you this? :rolleyes:

Why bother to inhibit the force? It's so much easier to simply overpower a Jedi's defenses with massed fire. I've also found that a fast-acting poison gas works well, so long as it's the kind of stuff that seeps through the skin and kills within a minute or two at the absolute most.

And then there's the possibility of leading them into a trap (mines), or collapsing parts of the architecture on them, or just irradiating the area they're in, or... I think I've made my point. If Jedi seem unbeatable, you just aren't using the right tactics against them.

Although admittedly, my mind shield may unintentionally block the force a bit because one of its defensive methods is spamming the area with a sort of mental static that keeps psionic individuals (I'd imagine that Jedi fall into this category) from concentrating on any one thing for too long.

Good point there to. Even though I already use orbital bombardments that usualy result in several massive radioactive glass hellholes to deal with a large concentration of "problems" I might have to start working on a mental static producing feild and start launching thouse into citys I intend to capture when I go on a imperalistic boredom incudced anexing spree.

Chucks Yafor under the chin and smiles wickedly

This is why...

Who can resist me? (http://www.atddm.com/jr.gif)

oops that's jessica, this is...

Me (http://www.atddm.com/FHFR119.GIF)

and guys, don't nuke it till it glows, that just a huge mess to clean up.

Specifically tailored biologicals. Kill the target population, a couple of years ( not centuries ) later- the local wildlife and eco system have down their work and the remaining skeletons have value as potash...

Much tidier

Why bother to inhibit the force? It's so much easier to simply overpower a Jedi's defenses with massed fire. I've also found that a fast-acting poison gas works well, so long as it's the kind of stuff that seeps through the skin and kills within a minute or two at the absolute most.

And then there's the possibility of leading them into a trap (mines), or collapsing parts of the architecture on them, or just irradiating the area they're in, or... I think I've made my point. If Jedi seem unbeatable, you just aren't using the right tactics against them.

Although admittedly, my mind shield may unintentionally block the force a bit because one of its defensive methods is spamming the area with a sort of mental static that keeps psionic individuals (I'd imagine that Jedi fall into this category) from concentrating on any one thing for too long.


All true, but those aren't always available. It's handy to have a device for nulling their powers if you aren't expecting them or are trying to capture them. I have the inherent psi-nulling effect in my people to make for more interesting RPs, Jedi and pshycic people having to work around it and all, and as a matter of principal since I don't like psychic stuff in RP's much anyway so this makes it better for me.

Kanuckistan, do you use MSN or any form of AIM at all? As I would like to have a chat ^_^

If you can't download MSN messenger you can use a web based MSN, called web messenger, all you need to have is an msn passport...

IM programs have historicly ... disagreed with my computers. It's been a while, however, so I'll look into the matter again. Past issues may no longer be present with newer software.

In the mean, TG me.

Yes Yafor, you held us off; though I no longer use SW tech with the defection of my evil little Sithling; Chronos. I replaced him with a nice 40K Sorceror. See, it'd be cool to have a nice big GE stylee alliance for 40K RPers; where we could set up big giant RP scenarios....Alas, shunned am I as Chaos....:P

Chucks Yafor under the chin and smiles wickedly

This is why...

Who can resist me? (http://www.atddm.com/jr.gif)

oops that's jessica, this is...

Me (http://www.atddm.com/FHFR119.GIF)

*Dodges chuck* Waitatinyminute, isn't that the same robot dude who hacked into my government?

Chro....I did hold you off...though the more important part is the past tense....

Come to think of it; what did we do with those Straight things?

*Dodges chuck* Waitatinyminute, isn't that the same robot dude who hacked into my government?

Chro....I did hold you off...though the more important part is the past tense....


I'll get you in time Yafor2, but I just can't bring myself to smotherise you ^_^ Your just too loveable :fluffle:

I'll get you in time Yafor2, but I just can't bring myself to smotherise you ^_^ Your just too loveable :fluffle:

I don't know if that is a complement or a threat...

:D Well, I've been warned off by Chron, it appears I aint allowed to kill you, so I'll just chuckle instead. :cool:

Come to think of it; what did we do with those Straight things?

Doom' took em'. I'm still plotting revenge...

US, I dunno if that's good or bad. (boy, aint I mighty confused today!)

IM programs have historicly ... disagreed with my computers. It's been a while, however, so I'll look into the matter again. Past issues may no longer be present with newer software.

In the mean, TG me.
If your not on a windows system. I think you can get emulators for Linux or Unix systems, if you need any I'll try to find you some updated software.

*Dodges chuck* Waitatinyminute, isn't that the same robot dude who hacked into my government?


I have no idea who Chuck is, but I'm definitely female"

If your not on a windows system. I think you can get emulators for Linux or Unix systems, if you need any I'll try to find you some updated software.

Thanks, but no; I'm using XP.

I thik part of the problem with Indie FT is that an agreement needs to be reached on what tech, ships, and armament is capable.

The starwars/ startrek universes are so easy to play becase we all have some idea of what canon is, what a missile does, what Solo's blaster does..we have a way to judge various effects...

What would a Andromeda nova bomb do against weaponry from SG1, or WarHammer 40 K against Farscape stuff...

We need to perhaps discuss this and come to agreements so we have a codex to game from.

Now that would be neigh impossible and could ressult in a FT version of the Feline Catfish incident with ships stats and such. -shudders at the thought- Though if it did happen I'd ahve a hellova a lot of work digging up my stats.

Shudders too...yeah great gnus, that's the last thing that I want I'm no war gamer, I'm a character gamer - I was thinking of something fairly informal...I guess maybe what I was thinking is a general pact of 'lets all agree to be honorable about it and give every ones tech their due effects'

Well I to tend to stick to my character based RPs more than my full scale war ones. Ironcily my character RP skills are so far at their peak for all I know but my mass army controll skills are rather average. And ya that would be abit easier but I point to the FC problem. In a sense nation A could jsut say he dosn't want to fallow the unwirtten rules of NS or anything we come up with.

I stole the name 'Mykonians' from a very obscure race in a game, as well as a couple of concepts (such as 'Myko-cables' and the idea of using entire planets as batteries -- though, I'm sure that's nothing unique), but Mykonia is largely of my own construction.

I thik part of the problem with Indie FT is that an agreement needs to be reached on what tech, ships, and armament is capable.

The starwars/ startrek universes are so easy to play becase we all have some idea of what canon is, what a missile does, what Solo's blaster does..we have a way to judge various effects...

What would a Andromeda nova bomb do against weaponry from SG1, or WarHammer 40 K against Farscape stuff...

We need to perhaps discuss this and come to agreements so we have a codex to game from.

Perhaps we should just agree that when one person fires their weapon, the other person gets hurt?

Well that is alittle hard right there. You have to take into acount things like the ship moving before it is hit or sheild systems or even other ships in the area being hit insted of the intended target. Hell now just about the only sure fire way to hit someone these days is with a massive cannon that coveres the whole battle feild and kills everything. Though that is the biggest RP killer that you could use next to a planet killer.

Well obviously it has to hit in order to hurt. But if someone repeatedly RPed moving their Ultra-Mega-Super-Star-Exterminator-Dreadnoughts-of-Terrible-Horrible-Doom out of the way of everything that is fired at them, they will find themselves on the fast-track to Ignoresville. The same goes for someone who RPs with indestructible armour or invincible shields. If someone fires a 'lighter' weapon, take 'light' damage. If someone fires a heavy weapon, take 'heavier' damage.

This is why I won't RP a battle/war without discussing it first. If you've already agreed upon a general storyline and outcome, you can just take/give however much/little damage as is good for the development of the story. You already know the outcome, so there's no need for competing with technobabble. Meaningless statistics don't make for interesting reading -- a half-good story does. Technology is just a plot device -- if blowing up a planet with the laughable concept of a 'giant laser o' doom' is conductive to said plot, do so. If not, don't. Frankly if I'm the only one who believes that then I may as well quit now. If I wanted to read a bunch of meaningless statistics I could head for one of the numerous Star Trek / Star Wars fansites and see them there in all their dull glory.

Nah.. I'm all original. One of the probs wit Indie is that people are attached to their tech and don't want it destroyed. The best way to RP is that,

1.) Someone shoots at you, either get hit and take damage or get out of the way

2.) Give them a chance, just because you like something of yours doesn't mean it's better.

3.) Sometimes, it's fun to die.

Those are my rules of RP. LoL. Not much.

Oh and..

4.) Self-destructs are useful. Same with Fireships.

I tend to ignore anyone who begins to act like they're better with their tech. In my opinion all tech is equal and should be treated as such.

I am currently going to go FT, while being MT as many nations have done. I am developing my own technology, and basing my race on the Heartless. Though they won't be Jedi they still will be able to manipulate darkness and all stuff like that. You will all see *Evil laugh*, maybe if you guys want we could rp me invading the galaxy for roleplay?

I am currently going to go FT, while being MT as many nations have done. I am developing my own technology, and basing my race on the Heartless. Though they won't be Jedi they still will be able to manipulate darkness and all stuff like that. You will all see *Evil laugh*, maybe if you guys want we could rp me invading the galaxy for roleplay?
Sure. If anyone wants an Indie RP lemme know.

Here's an idea - a number of us Indie Ft nations get together to host a war games? A Red vs Blue simulation. This way we get to see how various peoples tech works, see how it integrates, and have all the fun of the oops facts - with out real damamge to our militaries.

It could also act as a showcase for such tech as we wish to export to others..and allow MT nations looking to move into FT a chance to see various technologies 'on the fly' so to speak.

Heck, I'll even volunteer a place & space to hold this-

Prince Samuels World - aka War World, the Tanaran Empires primary military base/ training facility. Not so unusual among FT nations, this planet is very earth like, and has many levels of shore leave facilities. It also has multiple full scale Command Centers with real time holo combat displays and fully integrated C3 capability. There are multiple dedicated AI's and a complete military academy. The manufacturing capabilities are immense, and there are eight seperate complete military ship yards in orbit.

The system is littered with surveillence drones ( we've been war gaming here for years and have the penchant for wanting to see every thing thats going on ) and there is a wide array of spacial conditions with in a few light years, from a gaseous nebula to the remnants of a super nova.

I was wondering, what would you guys think I should have, world ships or individual warships? Both have cons and pros but I can't decide, anybody have any suggestions?

You know what? I'll play. I'll turn TIOS into it's own race, with ships, special abilities for the race, etc. I'll have the MT version, and the FT version, and what the hell, I'll throw in a PT version so that I can send celtic warriors against the romans. MT got boring anyway... then again, it got boring because of the FC incident. Which I've gotten tired of.

It really depends on what you're looking for in the ships. A world ship would tend to be very costly, though powerful. Individual warships may be cheaper, and you could have many more for the same price, along with the fact that four warships could probably destroy a world ship (and probably cost about the same price).

Edit: And the war games sound like a good idea.

Could you imagine having a Magog Worldship and Swarmships for your nation? That'd be sooo cool....

Hmm I found a really cool pick of something I could use for a worldship, but they don't realy suit my soon to be revealed heartless race. My ships have to be menacing and dark I haven't found any *runs and cries in corner*

You bring in the Magog and I will soooo bring in a Trancer ( oh goddess did I just say that? aaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhh..

First, to answer your question, I have noticed that there are not as many FT RPs in the II forum as there were a few months ago. If its because there is no overarching storyline well, I don’t know. Maybe it is because of that, or maybe its because this is the tail-end of the school year and lots of people have tests or finals. I have noticed something of an upswing in the NS forum however, though these tend to be small-scale contact and diplomatic RPs (not really suitable for a hyper-belligerent xenophobic Sternreich unfortunately).

Now, to go completely off topic like everyone else in this thread I will dissect my tech. Essentially Skeelzanian tech evolves as I read more books, watch more shows, or interact with other people. I can divide my tech into rather distinct phases, which is exactly what I'm going to do.

SKZ Tech I- The Zeonic Phase
The original tech template I used was based on the Gundam anime shows, specifically the Principality of Zeon and a few of the later "bad guys". This was mixed in with stuff from the space-ship MMOG DarkSpace to give Skeelzania it's base template. The basic ship was the Draco, a near-direct copy of the Musai class that ditched particle cannons in favor of railguns. Mobile Suits were present though never used in serious numbers. The Skeelzanian 'ubership' was the 800m Tiamat (Gundam's Zarmoth Gar).

Tech II- HW meets BFG
Gradually this evolved into something resembling Battle Fleet Gothic, though my ships rarely broached 1km in size. Fusion engines replaced the Ion Emission drives and Hyperspace took over from the unstable Tachyon Improbability Drives. Ships at this time came mostly from HomeWorld 1 and 2, though I created my own stats for everything. A few designs, specifically the Musai-based Draco class of frigates, were upgraded and continued to serve. I also used BFG's Lunar class as the basis for my new ubership, the 3km Skeelzot class. Three of these ships were built over an equal number of weeks and, in my opinion, gave local space superiority to Skeelzania.

Tech III- ESUS Influences
When Skeelzania joined the ESUS in a temporary bout of diplomacy (we were trying to diplomatically isolate one of our neighbors and thus open him up to attack at the time) they came into contact with much more advanced nations. Shielding and better weapons were acquired and began making their way onto our ships. These still tended to be HW2 based, with Vagyr the more popular choice.

Tech IV- Chaos Ensues
The fourth phase of Skeelzania’s tech evolution followed close behind the third, when I discovered the Chaos ships for BFG. Soon the 1200m Nidhogg class became the backbone of my fleets, with Typhon grand cruisers forming the nucleus. Small ships continued to be Zeonic or Vagyr based, although DoGA was making enroads. This age would last right up to the Skeelzanian War of Succession where most of the Chaos-based ships were destroyed.

Tech V- DoGA and AM
I say the start of this age is when I first began inducing DoGA-designed light capital ship classes such as the Legion strike carrier. Eventually mid-range ships such as the Yavuz and Ahzi Dahaki cruisers were introduced, and the Zeonic Dracos were finally replaced by new designs (all designed by me). The largest DoGA ships fielded are the Dracula and Empire dreadnoughts, 1400 and 3000m respectively. Although the former was intended to replace the Nidhogg as Skeelzania’s backbone, only 4 were ever built.

Also at this time Skeelzania began to use Antimatter engines for the first time. Called flochip, these were based on the drives found in the Dread Empire’s Fall series of books. Instead of simply dumping antimatter and hydrogen into the exhaust port, microchips containing a single antihydrogen are used as fuel. Holding the antimatter in a containment field, flochips are both safe and portable. The field deactivates if the correct electric signal is sent to the chip, which then acts as fuel for the AM reaction. The release of energy destroys the surrounding chips, releasing their antihydrogens and continuing the process.

Tech VI- The DIED
When Skeelzanian-Sol relations went from “non-existent” to “Craptastic”, a new military branch was created to combat the Solar navies. This was necessary as the usual Skeelzanian navy could be considered quite wanktastic by their standards, with no less than 7 3km ships built and in service by the time the nation hit 2 billion people. DIED ships were smaller and more heavily armed for their size than other SKZ vessels, and made use of the latest protective systems. This includes the Isotropic Coating shield system, which can be found in the Metaplanetary series. Essentially the IC tricks particles into thinking the ship is something else entirely, causing beams and even small rocks to mass through the ship. Although this only blocks, at most, 40% of beam damage and 100kg objects, IC is thought to be unique to Skeelzania and a few ESUS nations who assisted in its development.

I personally like having stats for my ships for my own personal use. It lets me know what my ships are capable of so I don't forget and have one of my cruisers have 3000 missiles in its magazine rather than 300.

As it stands I design roughly 99% of my ships with DOGA L3, with the other 1% being purchased from various storefronts to support them. I generally use low amounts of technobabble weapons like particle canons, lasers, or on the higher technobabble end "exotic massless particle beams".

You bring in the Magog and I will soooo bring in a Trancer ( oh goddess did I just say that? aaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhh..

Lol, no Avatars of Suns :P