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I-9 Infernus HCT. A tank with flames!

Samtonia
02-05-2005, 00:42
I-9 Infernus Heavy Chemical Tank
Designed by: Samtonia
Weight: 79.8 tons
Crew: 3 (Driver, gunner, commander)

Speed
Maximum Governed Speed: 70 kph
Speed, cross country: 45.1 kph
Speed, 10% slope: 24.1 kph.
Speed, 60% slope: 5.0 kph
Acceleration: 0 to 32.2 kph in 8.2 seconds

Range: 450km
Vertical Obstacle: 2.4m
Fording: 3.3m
Trench 4.1m.

Dimensions
Length with gun forward: 9.91m
Turret height: 2.4m
Width: 4.3m
Ground clearance: .49m
Ground pressure: 16.3 p.s.i.

Armor
Advanced composite armor incorporating Chobham, Titanium Alloys, high strength ceramics, ERA, Tungsten and spacing, effectiveness is rated at being close (or greater than) 1500mm RHA.

Frontal: 1500mm RHA
Side: 750mm RHA
Rear: 450mm RHA

Power systems
SFPW TH 67 diesel system, emergency and maintenance power.

Arament Systems
7.62mm pintle-mounted machine gun, Super-heavy Flame Cannon (Effective range 1m to 400m steady stream), 2 ATGM launchers (Carry standard ATGM with effective range limited by missile endurance), 2A72 30mm cannon mounted next to flame cannon(Effective range 4m to 4,000m)

Ammunition
760 L Prometheus Jellied Napalm, 800 rounds machine gun ammunition, 8 ATGM/AAGM(Variable Loads), 750 rounds 30mm ammunition

30mm cannon ammunition overview:
400 UOF-84 HEI 390 960 Shell filled with 48,5g HE, with A-670M fuze
350 BPS "Kerner" APDS-T 304 1120 Yellow plastic sabot surrounding tungsten alloy core with tracer

Rate of Fire
Main gun: 1L/.85 seconds maximum fire , MG: 350-600rpm (or semi auto) 2A72: 330rpm

Intelligence Systems
Radar/laser/microwave threat warning receivers with rapid resolution of incoming fire sources, fire detection radar and suppression system, a wide variety of views with a horizon view and IR/UV/Night vision views. As well as targeting views and emergency periscope views. Laser rangefinder and designator, target acquisition system (roughly 90% accurate), remote sensor coordination, anti-air targeting computer system.

Counter systems
Sensors for immediate detection of hits which aim all detectors, designators and weapons at the target which if isn't found is then scanned for. Jammers, active counter laser, dense particulate smoke rounds and discharger, anti-missile system using ball bearing packed explosives launched at direction of incoming threat from mount on turret, an anti-mine system also using the same ball bearing packed explosive system but located at the front of the hull and using a powerful detection system, anti-magnetic mine paint.

Survivability systems
NBC protection, unitary armored pod inside the crew’s section of the hull, blow away sections for Prometheus tanks which are contained within a heavily armored unitary armored pod that releases pressure on the napalm in case it lights up and, if so, vents heat and flame away from crew and engine. The same goes for MG systems mounted slightly to the rear of the turret. Retractable (and detachable) armored skirts.

Tank systems
Computerized hydropneumatic 'dynamic' suspension, rail system to roll out engine for maintenance, cool air jets run into exhaust stream with a combination of air and liquid coolant, advanced fire control computer, fully stabilized gun mountings.

http://www.wargamesworkshop.co.uk/Images%5CProductImages%5CIGHellhound.jpg

Sale/Production Rights
At this time, sales and production rights are not applicable to the I-9 Infernus. Deals with close allies may be worked out.

Copyright Information
Armor, intelligence, counter, survivability, and tank systems created with intellectual property of the designers of the T-7 Gilgamesh MBT. Their assistance appreciated and their design also appreciated. Production rights for the tank purchased by Samtonia, giving Samtonia all plans and designs of stated systems.

I-9 Infernus is the exclusive property of Samtonia. All designs and prototypes copyright Samtonia, 2005. Any problems with Samtonian design, copyright infringement, or systems use should be addressed to Samtonia by TG.

Feel free to rip it apart at your convenience. Tank this is based upon (http://afvdb.50megs.com/usa/m132.html)
MassPwnage
02-05-2005, 00:43
ooc: I could cook this thing like a turkey with a thermobaric rockets.
Samtonia
02-05-2005, 01:02
No more than a standard MBT. If your weapons, which sound decidedly PMT (ignoring the fact thatt this tank is MT), penetrate any tank on earth, they'll brew up the ammunition stored within. The ammunition for this tank just happens to be a type of flaming fuel on the order of napalm instead of HE.

So that missile doesn't cause this tank undue worry. Unless you think I have the fuel tanks on the outside of the hull. Because that would be dumb on my behalf.
MassPwnage
02-05-2005, 01:07
ooc: meh, a flame tank isn't really THAT good of an idea.

And a thermobaric rocket is just a fancy way to say incendiary.
Samtonia
02-05-2005, 01:42
An incindiery rocket won't penetrate MBT armor, which the fuel reserves are carried in. It won't penetrate the seperately armored pod, which the fuel is also contained in. And if it looks to be getting near ddoing that, the fuel will immediatley be jettisoned.

So in all actuality, this tank actually offers better survivability than an M1/A1 for instance.

AS for usefulness, I beg to differ. Jungle action, street fighting, mountainous terrain- all these environemnts are ideal. Otherwise, why would the US army have devloped an APC armed with a heavy flamethrower/cannon back in the Korean/Vietnam era? This tank fulfills a certain role. Sure, it won't stand up against an MBT across an open field. But that's not what it was designed to do.
Crookfur
02-05-2005, 12:26
OOC:
I could take serious issue with you for using material from the T-7 seeing as you bought a production license, not the right to modify or reverse engineer any part of the design but i can let it lie.


As for Thermo baric missiles, they are strickly modern tech, basically a fancy name for FAE weapons designed to clear out caves and bunkers (a thermo baric hellfire varient was used a couple of times in Iraq 2 years ago) and not really useful against tanks unless you use lots of huge ones and literally cursh everything.
Praetonia
02-05-2005, 12:37
So that missile doesn't cause this tank undue worry. Unless you think I have the fuel tanks on the outside of the hull. Because that would be dumb on my behalf.
On the contrary, that would actually be quite a good idea for a tank like this (so long as the fuel tanks had a modest degree of armour). Y'see, if this tank is penetrated by an APFSDS round or similar, then the spalling, superhot sprayed metal etc will set off your fuel and destroy your tank. On the other hand, if it's on the outside and it explodes then you dont have major problems as the armour will protect the crew from the explosions. So long as it's armoured enough so that it cant be blown by an infantryman and his pistol then it might actually be a good idea.

EDIT: Oh and this is quite a nice tank overall. The one thing I'd suggest is to give RHA armour values for the Front, Sides and Rear, as it wont be 1500mm all round. Generally the side will be about 50% the front, and the rear about 30% the front at most.
Hogsweat
02-05-2005, 12:41
But you're all forgetting the hellhound always takes penetrating hits.

:D

Anyway, pretty nice tank. Good one.
Crookfur
02-05-2005, 12:53
On the contrary, that would actually be quite a good idea for a tank like this (so long as the fuel tanks had a modest degree of armour). Y'see, if this tank is penetrated by an APFSDS round or similar, then the spalling, superhot sprayed metal etc will set off your fuel and destroy your tank. On the other hand, if it's on the outside and it explodes then you dont have major problems as the armour will protect the crew from the explosions. So long as it's armoured enough so that it cant be blown by an infantryman and his pistol then it might actually be a good idea.

EDIT: Oh and this is quite a nice tank overall. The one thing I'd suggest is to give RHA armour values for the Front, Sides and Rear, as it wont be 1500mm all round. Generally the side will be about 50% the front, and the rear about 30% the front at most.

Well the Fuel tanks (if installed in a simialr location to the original T-7s main gun ammo) is compeltely seperate from the main compartment with quick release blast vent pannels (simialr to the abram's)
Praetonia
02-05-2005, 12:58
Well the Fuel tanks (if installed in a simialr location to the original T-7s main gun ammo) is compeltely seperate from the main compartment with quick release blast vent pannels (simialr to the abram's)
Well yes, but this tank needs much more fuel to shoot and things, and it has to go somewhere, so outside is as good a place as any. After all, compartmenting the fuel and giving it blast vents is effectively putting it in an outside armoured fuel tank, is it not?
Crookfur
02-05-2005, 13:06
In effect yes :)
Samtonia
03-05-2005, 02:30
But you're all forgetting the hellhound always takes penetrating hits.

Psssh. Not anymore it doesn't. You know, the newest Imperial Guard codex. No more auto pen! A range of 24" for the flame cannon! It's a crazy tank- crazy good! Yay! (minus auto-fallback though. damnation.)

OOC:
I could take serious issue with you for using material from the T-7 seeing as you bought a production license, not the right to modify or reverse engineer any part of the design but i can let it lie.

Yeah...I'm sorry about that. It's just the desciptions were so damn good! If you want to be able to produce this thing since it is sort of a joint production, I'm fine with that. Basically, thank you for use of your excellent material. And sorry for not Tging you. It completely skipped my mind and by the time I was about to, you had already posted. In essence, I dun messed up. Forgive me.

And tahnks for clarification on thermobaric missiles.

On the contrary, that would actually be quite a good idea for a tank like this (so long as the fuel tanks had a modest degree of armour). Y'see, if this tank is penetrated by an APFSDS round or similar, then the spalling, superhot sprayed metal etc will set off your fuel and destroy your tank. On the other hand, if it's on the outside and it explodes then you dont have major problems as the armour will protect the crew from the explosions. So long as it's armoured enough so that it cant be blown by an infantryman and his pistol then it might actually be a good idea.

EDIT: Oh and this is quite a nice tank overall. The one thing I'd suggest is to give RHA armour values for the Front, Sides and Rear, as it wont be 1500mm all round. Generally the side will be about 50% the front, and the rear about 30% the front at most.

So.....basically go with the hellhound design (like the pretty picture)? And would you consider armoring the things as well as frontal armor be about right? It would free up space and enable me to decrease the size of the tank a bit. But detractors- disadvantages?
The Macabees
03-05-2005, 02:34
This seems like a fancy flamethrower tank. In that event I much rather just create an easy variant of my already existing MBT which carries a flamethrower and use that when necessary. Designing a totally seperate MBT for it seems highly expensive and unnecessary - especially when it comes to logistics. But meh, each one of us has different tactical and strategical perspectives so I'll shut my mouth now.
Samtonia
03-05-2005, 02:38
Longer range, greater fuel capacity....these seem to be pretty good reasons for making a specialized tank. Plus you don't have to worry so much about space for ammo, fuel, and fuel as much with this tank. No main gun with lots of ammo, just a little 30mm cannon. So lots more space to make it armored and fast enough.

I figure even if it only gets 150m extra range on a flamethrower tank that's really good for a steady stream. Oh, right. I can alos elevate the turret and fire bursts through the air to go fartyher then the max stream distance. Which a flamethrower tank cannot, unless you mount the flamethrower next to the main ugn, making the turret even heavier and adding more problems to the tank's design....

I thought about whther I should just make a variant of the standard MBT I've got. It was easier to make a new tank entirely.
Ratheia
03-05-2005, 02:45
Looks good.

We'll think about it.
Praetonia
03-05-2005, 10:43
So.....basically go with the hellhound design (like the pretty picture)? And would you consider armoring the things as well as frontal armor be about right? It would free up space and enable me to decrease the size of the tank a bit. But detractors- disadvantages?
Yeah. Otherwise you'd have to extend the hull for quite a bit and that would make it a large target and very heavy. It woudl also mean that a hit to the ammunition fuel would also destroy your engine fuel. And yes that would probably be ok. It would be rather heavy, but they arent all that big, so...
Hallad
03-05-2005, 11:10
OoC:

A hellhound rip-off? Sounds good! Seriously, it's the most badass tank in the Imperial Guard.

*hugs his Guard army*
Rotten bacon
30-05-2005, 20:13
I would like the first thig you have plese