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Most Influential Asian Nation II (OOC and AMW Only)

Sino
01-05-2005, 04:59
It's been along time since the wars of the past produced that classic bitching thread. With the AMW as our RP umbrella, gentlemen, start your bitching engines.
Armandian Cheese
01-05-2005, 05:11
Everybody all together now!

RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! Long live the Red Soviet Mother---oops. Ahem, I mean "Freedom, democracy, and vodka!"

:D

Consider my ultra inefficient gas guzzling bitching engine to be taking the lead...
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:12
Now, I'm not so sure about where EI is in AMW. I didn't include Spyr because his actions always mirror the Indias. Now that there is only one China, looks like the contest is between three RP'ers.
_Taiwan
01-05-2005, 05:15
I'd suppoer BG is, seeming always to have massive amounts of Soft power.
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:16
Since action speaks louder than words, I suppose the Indias hold the Pacific ransom with their dominance of the Indian Ocean, forcing oil supplies to be diverted.
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:20
I'd suppoer BG is, seeming always to have massive amounts of Soft power.

Never go near a bra lying on the ground, it's always a booby trap! Soft power, my arse! He brings his forces near the target, put up a polite request, then if no compliance is made, he bombs the sh*t out off everything. The Bolsheviks are no different to Mafia. Having a sword in the scabbard is as threatening as having it drawn. If you've got a gun in hand, why not use it?
Beth Gellert
01-05-2005, 05:31
All tyrants cower before the global revolution! All power to the Soviets! Get the frick out of the Indian Ocean! Vae victis, imperialist!


I mean, China is dirt ring for squabling between a few autocrats, Russia is a pirates' den, Islandia is eye candy with a submarine, and the revolution is everything else and the Igovian Soviet Commonwealth is the revolution. All the rest are slaves to a fuel economy... mayhap United Elias is really the only other contender.


But seriously, I dunno. BG is setting the pace at the moment, but China as a whole is on the up... but without the complicity of all the Chinas, the whole is nothing more than introvert. Surely the individuals and special interest groups in each China will under-mine the whole... they can't all win, and none will want to lose. Capitalism is weakness next to the General Council of the Communards.

Then who else is there? France and Roycelandia are pitting their combined Asian influence against the Commonwealth. If they fail, BG will be the greatest Asian conqueror since... Dra-pol, I suppose. The Chinas have no history of influence. They may build one, though.
Beth Gellert
01-05-2005, 05:34
Never go near a bra lying on the ground, it's always a booby trap! Soft power, my arse! He brings his forces near the target, put up a polite request, then if no compliance is made, he bombs the sh*t out off everything. The Bolsheviks are no different to Mafia. Having a sword in the scabbard is as threatening as having it drawn. If you've got a gun in hand, why not use it?

Wow, wow. If you come to Beth Gellert and call someone a Bolshevik, you're likely to be violently attacked.

All but a few hundred Beddgelens (this is a democracy, after all) consider Bolshevism to be essentially the same as, for example, the old Sinoese junta. Bolsheviks in Beddgelert run the risk of bayonetting at any moment.
Armandian Cheese
01-05-2005, 05:37
Bah, Pirates den. We've got a crime problem. We're dealing with it. The only reason I haven't completely gotten rid of it is because it's damn fun RPing as Mafiosi. They're practically their own country, really.

And greatest conqueror ever...? Well, let's just say...Kazakhstan is only the beginning...

(Maniacal laughter echoes through halls)
Beth Gellert
01-05-2005, 05:41
And Russia only got Kazakhstan because it's Kazakhstan, and not anything that anyone cares about ;)

Fighting Kazakhstan's all well and good, but I'm pretty sure that Russia backed-down in the face of the Holy League. Not much influence can be ascribed to a nation afraid of France and the Ukraine!

Heh, what? I didn't make a fuss in the last thread, and didn't protest our exclusion, I have an arrogance over-load stored up here!

[goes back to waging war on those from whom Russia fled]
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:45
Over the Himalayas we're waiting for your subhumans to come running naked and hungry to our machinegun nests. If it's actual strength, we shall see who has the superior industry, economy, and military. One salvo of nukes and BG is history, the world is thus saved.

How is capitalism an enemy to you? Are you reading this through an old soviet 'computer' with advanced valves? Teh communist economic system promises only poverty, starvation and false strength. A majority of the AMW laugh at you reds adn your collective stupidity. Does direct democracy work in real life?
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:46
Conqueror? The great curry muncher imitating Stalin is scared of being nuked by China or Russia. If everyone in BG is too lazy or drug-f*cked the work, how does that country work?

Bedgellen visiting America:

"Wow! In America, they put 'In God we trust' on their money. In Beth Gellert, we have no money!"
Beth Gellert
01-05-2005, 05:55
By choice, the Igovian Soviet Commonwealth maintains a nuclear arsenal not much bigger than that of the five-times-smaller United Kingdom... still quite sufficient to wreck China should the savage nationalists ever think to start a nuclear war.

BG generally does not rely on nuclear intimidation, recognising that its enemies will be felled by popular revolt rather than mutual obliteration.

When Igovians called capitalism an enemy is anybody's guess. It seems that we've a right to ask why the Sinoese like to sleep with small children and to lick combine harvester parts, while things are being made-up on the spot!

Chinese insignificance is reflected in the isolationist state's ignorance of international politics.
Sino
01-05-2005, 05:59
Another revolution would not occur in China just as the Nazis will never retake Germany. People learn from their mistakes or the mistakes of others. Utopia only exists in fiction, so concentrate on what's real.

With the near anarchic levels of 'freedoms' in BG, it would be your subhumans humping children and animals.
Sino
01-05-2005, 10:24
So far the polls reveal no changes from the last series. Sino still leading. I expect _Taiwan to either overtake or come closely second.
Xiaguo
01-05-2005, 18:45
Tag.
Beth Gellert
01-05-2005, 18:58
I dunno, I think there's too little cohesion in Asia at the moment for anyone to be clearly more influential than anyone else, in most ways.

Sino forces some nations to keep up military spending for fear of some sort of genocidal outburst, Bonstock has a knack for uniting everyone against it, BG always has the potential to turn discontent into outright revolution in usually minor states; but I don't know that anyone really listens to anyone else, these days :) AMW has an increasingly clear trade split between right and left economies, I think, so it's hard for either to exert economic pressure on the other.

I can actually see a good argument for Xiaguo being up in the top few, as perhaps the most likely bridge between the sides, but if they just keep bending over for Sino, that bridge is never going to be tred, and by exerting some Chinese influence, Sino probably only reduces China's voice in the world as the left turns its back.

I don't know, the poll seems to suggest that some think Taiwan has a similar role, but I don't know that I see it.

There's always the Roycelandian and to a lesser degree the French presence... and are we not counting United Elias as a player on the Asian scene? I can't see China's capitalist economies relying on Russian oil, being as that country's so unstable.
East Islandia
01-05-2005, 23:57
I say Taiwan or big BG. Sorry, Sino, but you need a little work when it comes to writing out RPs and in your global vision.

Sigh...who would've thought? I returned to Nationstates. Good to be back comrades.
East Islandia
02-05-2005, 00:07
Now, I'm not so sure about where EI is in AMW. I didn't include Spyr because his actions always mirror the Indias. Now that there is only one China, looks like the contest is between three RP'ers.

I am located where Australia is, with the population of Australia (close to 20 million). The only difference between me and Australia is that my nation is split into several massive island chains (hence Islandia) instead of one landmass.

And I dont expect to get any votes because it has been a while since I've been active and no one listens to me anymore. Still, Nationstates is fun again, so I'm not really complaining.
Sino
02-05-2005, 04:16
The media organizations (if RP'ed) in AMW would have opinions quite different. China still dominates the news with its unification and new military developments. Our technology still beats most of the world.

Let's not forget that the Sinoese orchestrated the unification, with both spectacular military action and a guarantee of peace. _Taiwan has very innovative military technology and tactics, while the Mainland's missiles cover the entire continent.
The Macabees
02-05-2005, 04:20
The media organizations (if RP'ed) in AMW would have opinions quite different. China still dominates the news with its unification and new military developments. Our technology still beats most of the world.

Not for long! Muahahahaha.
Sino
02-05-2005, 04:21
Not for long! Muahahahaha.

Glad to see some power in Africa keeping the skinnies at bay.
The Macabees
02-05-2005, 04:23
Glad to see some power in Africa keeping the skinnies at bay.

Yea, I have several strange plans for my less than equal Moroccon brethren. Can anybody say foreign SS, with less rascism, and more war crimes?
Sino
02-05-2005, 04:25
Yea, I have several strange plans for my less than equal Moroccon brethren. Can anybody say foreign SS, with less rascism, and more war crimes?

You could consider this (http://www.feldgrau.com/foreign.html). You could also imitate the British with their Gurkha mercenaries. You can even try this (http://www.feldgrau.com/azadhind.html).