NationStates Jolt Archive


OOC Thread: Pulling the Petals

Farmina
01-05-2005, 04:14
Just having this here for future use.



I'll post my fleet here later.

IC Thread
Green Sun
01-05-2005, 04:16
Yeah, I kinda noticed it was MT when you told me I had to RP MT.
Neo Earth
01-05-2005, 04:24
OOC: Cool. But I have to go. I might be on later tonight. If not, tommorrow (I live in Arizona; GMT -7)
Farmina
01-05-2005, 04:32
Also NE, threatening to kill Justinian might not be a great idea, considering he is a kid by all measure. Not as young as he used to be, but memories age slower than the real thing.
Green Sun
01-05-2005, 04:33
Have you noticed The Isle of Rose hasn't replied?
Neo Earth
01-05-2005, 04:34
OOC: How old?

It won't matter. It just the battle-cry for the people of Neo Earth.
Farmina
01-05-2005, 04:35
Different time zones
Farmina
01-05-2005, 04:36
Justinian is probably 17 now, but time is an unclear thing.
Automagfreek
01-05-2005, 04:38
Have you noticed The Isle of Rose hasn't replied?


OOC: Um....you DO realize that not everyone functions in the same time zone, right? And you DO realize that people have things to do outside of NS, right? :rolleyes:
Green Sun
01-05-2005, 05:01
OOC: Um....you DO realize that not everyone functions in the same time zone, right? And you DO realize that people have things to do outside of NS, right? :rolleyes:
I didn't say it was a PROBLEM. I find it a little humorous that all this has been planned against and for this person yet they have not said a thing. I don't want him to get on tomorrow and be all pissed because all this has happened without his knowing.
Vastiva
01-05-2005, 06:19
However, the wave has begun to curl.... :D
Farmina
01-05-2005, 06:39
I'm not going to let TIOR get away scot free for declaring war on me for holding elections. If you want to bring in all of NATO, I can match it. This is a path I prefer not to take.
Vastiva
01-05-2005, 06:45
Hmmmm... Purely as OOC information, you might put that in a general communication to the many and several.
Greenmanbry
01-05-2005, 09:58
I'm definately in this. But I will post my reply only after TIOR's.
Farmina
01-05-2005, 12:27
Hmmmm... Purely as OOC information, you might put that in a general communication to the many and several.

I can't say anything yet because I don't know that NATO nations are mobilizing. Thats probably my biggest advantage, we are at full preparedness, and mobilisation can take months.
Camewot
01-05-2005, 14:21
tag
Neo Earth
01-05-2005, 16:11
I can't say anything yet because I don't know that NATO nations are mobilizing. Thats probably my biggest advantage, we are at full preparedness, and mobilisation can take months.

Same here. I mobilized most of my force awhile ago because I was expecting war with The Merchant Guilds (but Jamum was deleted,a nd thats what was causing the war...)
Praetonia
01-05-2005, 16:14
TAG

Note: I'm not in NATO, I'm just friendly with TIoR <.< >.>
DontPissUsOff
01-05-2005, 16:15
I don't have a choice, but I'm in on this too.
Green Sun
01-05-2005, 16:27
My rather small navy is trying to get clearance to RB ports so we can be ready.
Green Sun navy (MT)
(Open to suggestions for changes, but mostly from allies in this.)
3 Aircraft carriers (One will stay in Green Sun)
4 Battleships (2 in GS)
6 submarines (3 in GS)
7 cruisers (3 in GS)
4 destroyers (2 in GS)
Doomingsland
01-05-2005, 16:29
I'm probably going to send a big force to protect Farmina. Farmina, got MSN or AIM?
Dumpsterdam
01-05-2005, 16:33
Farmina's invading fleet can sit on the burns, his homeland however will not, so anyone thinking of invading him, gets introduced to my new first strike policy.
Neo Earth
01-05-2005, 16:35
OOC: I think I am the only one thats going to invade Farmina. Everyone else is going to defend Rose.
Praetonia
01-05-2005, 16:36
Yes one thing should be noted: Praetonia will not be party to any invasion of Farmina, we shall only protect TIoR from Farminan aggression.

EDIT: Incomplete naval listings can be found here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410818
Teh ninjas
01-05-2005, 17:06
+tag+ for my later use.
Newtdom
01-05-2005, 17:09
As I stated, I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet, but I know I need to get in on this. I sent a small fleet in international waters around the Island of Rose. Its purpose is unknown as of yet. I'll edit in what I sent when I get the time.
Celack
01-05-2005, 17:21
TAG

Probably will send some forces to defend TIOR. Full extent of whatever I'm doing undecided as of yet.
Automagfreek
01-05-2005, 18:31
Farmina's invading fleet can sit on the burns, his homeland however will not, so anyone thinking of invading him, gets introduced to my new first strike policy.


OOC: Before you start getting too involved, you and I still have something we need to hash out.
Dumpsterdam
01-05-2005, 18:33
Duly noted, need a few more days to work things out, but do watch me handle this AMF, you'll be proud. ;)
The Island of Rose
01-05-2005, 18:43
(Farmina, if I ever declare war on somebody and I don't back it with force a week later, I have forgotten about it and moved on. Okay? Thank you.)
Green Sun
01-05-2005, 19:13
I've decided, since TIOR really doesn't want this, that I won't get involved UNLESS Roach-Busters is attacked. Then it becomes personal. But since TIOR seems to be upset about this I don't think it's a good idea if this is carried out.

I did want a good war, though.
Doomingsland
01-05-2005, 21:47
Ugghh, this is turning into a dogpile. I think we may want to limit this.
Greenmanbry
01-05-2005, 22:28
agreed.
Dumpsterdam
01-05-2005, 22:50
TACCOM - FLASH - The Island of Rose/DPUO/Praetonia

The Empire will deal with Farmina at once, their reasons for war are paper-thin to say the least and while we do not wish to aid Farmina once again we don't want them destroyed or damaged.

Farmina is of use to the Empire(the reason why the Empire keeps a permanent garrison there) and will be so to us in the future. We therefor ask that we keep the dogs of war on a leash for now, Justinian will either back down or we will march our forces into the hart of their seat of goverment and force the upstart child.

But let I make myself incredibly clear, the Empire will not, tolerate any sort of attack on Farmina while we deal with them. You break the deal, you set loose the dogs of war, you pay the price for ignoring peace.

Field Marshal Talas,
Head of the DDF.
Japanese Antarctica
01-05-2005, 23:25
Yes one thing should be noted: Praetonia will not be party to any invasion of Farmina, we shall only protect TIoR from Farminan aggression.

EDIT: Incomplete naval listings can be found here: http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=410818

same here, JA has no plans ATM to invade Farmina, only to defend TIOR.
The Island of Rose
02-05-2005, 00:44
(I want you all to note that 75 of my 100 Fleets are stationed in TIOR. You can see their complement in my factbooken.)
Roach-Busters
02-05-2005, 00:52
OOC: And you DO realize that people have things to do outside of NS, right? :rolleyes:

Phew. At least some of us have lives! :p
Omz222
02-05-2005, 00:56
OOC: Unless there are objections, I'm considering to join the RP as a former ally of TIOR, and having kept a cautious eye on Farmina in the past (because of their troubles with Hogsweat). I also understand that this might be turning to one of the "mega-wars" with 20-30 nations on each side, so if the major players of the RP objects my participation because of that, I'll be able to understand.

Deployment will mostly like be a 800-strong naval task force, along with three-four corps (an Group Army).
Teh ninjas
02-05-2005, 01:54
1st General Purpose Fleet
Status-Enroute to The Island of Rose
1 Calypso Super Dreadnought
1 Ocean Class Carrier
1 Royal Holly-class CV
4 Province-class CG
11 County-class DDG (AD)
14City Class DDF (GP)
21 Furtive-Class FFH
4 Forthar-class SSN
2 Ocean Class CBG/BBG
Region-class CG
8 Forthar Class SSGN
3 Lem Class AFS
2 Lord-class LHD
2 Ungforth-class LPD
2 Valley-class LSD
Walmsley-class CVL
11 Smith-class AOR
12 River-class K
6 Stortbek-B-class SSK
18 Lake-class MCDV
3 Aylesburgh Class AS
2 Centaur X Guided Missile Destroyers
2 Sabre Guided Missile Desotryers
2 MENACHEM BEGIN CA (Gun Cruisers)
6 Clan Grant Fleet Replenisher

139 Ships per fleet

2nd Rapid Assualt Expeditionary Fleet
Status-Enroute to The Island of Rose
4 Crocodile-class LCS
1 Jericho Class Amphibious Assualt Ship
2 Lord-class LHD
4 Ungforth-class LPD
2 Rapier-class CVQ
Bastion-class BBGN
2 Charter-class BBGN
4 Duchy-class CAG
6 County-class DDG (AD)
6 City-class DDG (GP)
10 Furtive-class FFH
2 Port-class SSGN
4 Forthar-class SSN
4 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
2 Centaur X Guided Missile Destroyers
2 Sabre Guided Missile Desotryers
2 MENACHEM BEGIN CA (Gun Cruisers)
1 Walmsley-class CVL
1 County-class DDG (AD)
2 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
2 Forthar-class SSGN
1 Smith-class AOR
4 Clan Grant Fleet Replenisher

2nd Combat Brigade of the 13th Marine Division
Status- Enroute to The Island of Rose via naval fleet
Soldiers-3,000
21 TM-38A1 Gladius Main Battle Tanks
53 TM-71A1 Pilia Infantry Fighting Vehicles
35 AAVP7A1 Amphibious Vehicles
36 M777 Towed Artillery
15 M247 Sergeant York Mobile Anti-Aircraft Gun Systems
3 M163 Vulcan Mobile Anti-Aircraft Gun Systems
7 Stryker Command Vehicles
2 PAC-2 Missile Systems
4 MIM-27 Hawk Missile Systems
16 Lancet Attack Helicopters
11 CH-47 Chinook Lift Helicopters
7 UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopters
255 HMMWV
145 Assorted Trucks

4th, 5th and 6th Logistics Brigade of the 13th Marine Division
Status: Enroute to The Island of Rose via naval fleet
Soldiers-9,000

I'll send more help later on, but I really don't think you'd need it TIOR.
Vastiva
02-05-2005, 03:15
Well, it looks like everyone is defending someone and no one is attacking...

This could be the longest non-war on record.
Green Sun
02-05-2005, 03:24
I could always piss someone off and launch a fuckload of missiles at someone if it would help.
Greenmanbry
02-05-2005, 08:44
I could always piss someone off and launch a fuckload of missiles at someone if it would help.

That would be awesome. Especially if it's on a navy en-route to TIOR or Farmina.

If everyone is scared of harming their polished, mega-uber-ships, I can be the one to come under attack.. :rolleyes:

[edit]

This is what I have heading for TIOR:

The IDDG Indian Ocean Fleet:

(2) Leviathan Class Battleships
(2) Greenmanbry Class Battle Carriers
(2) Ocean Class Aircraft Carriers
(2) George Washington Class Light Aircraft Carriers
(8) Trident Class Attack Submarines
(8) Neptune Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
(8) Clan Grant Class Fleet Replenishers
(4) Jericho Class Amphibious Assault Ships
(8) Ardent Class Frigates
(6) Broadsword Class Escort Frigates
(6) Centaur Class Guided Missile Destroyer
(8) Centaur-X Guided Missile Destroyer
(6) Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyer

The IDDG Red Sea Fleet:

(1) Leviathan Class Battleships
(2) Greenmanbry Class Battle Carriers
(2) Ocean Class Aircraft Carriers
(2) George Washington Class Light Aircraft Carriers
(8) Trident Class Attack Submarines
(8) Neptune Class Ballistic Missile Submarines
(8) Clan Grant Class Fleet Replenishers
(4) Jericho Class Amphibious Assault Ships
(8) Ardent Class Frigates
(6) Broadsword Class Escort Frigates
(6) Centaur Class Guided Missile Destroyer
(8) Centaur-X Guided Missile Destroyer
(6) Sabre Class Guided Missile Destroyer
Roach-Busters
02-05-2005, 16:21
Okay, I'm confused: Who declared war first, Farmina or TIOR?
Japanese Antarctica
02-05-2005, 23:14
Well, since everyone else is, I might as well post numbers too, although it may not be needed at this point.

3rd Navy, 1st Carrier Battle Group

1 Yoshitsune Class CVN
1 Nakakura Class CVL
5 Murasame Class Destroyers
2 KH Mikuma Class Cruisers
2 Kongo Class DDG
2 Shirane DDH
1 AGF-11 Coronado
1 MSO 301 Yaeyama
1 MCL 722 Niijima
2 T-AE 26 Kilauea
1 T-AOE 6 Supply

3rd Navy, 2nd Carrier Battle Group

1 Yoshitsune Class CVN
1 Nakakura Class CVL
1 Ohio Class SSGN
1 Oyashio Class Submarine
5 Murasame Class Destroyers
2 KH Mikuma Class Cruisers
2 Kongo Class DDG
2 Shirane DDH
1 AGF-11 Coronado
1 MSO 301 Yaeyama
1 MCL 722 Niijima
2 T-AE 26 Kilauea
1 T-AOE 6 Supply
Farmina
03-05-2005, 07:39
Okay, I'm confused: Who declared war first, Farmina or TIOR?

TIOR
Vastiva
03-05-2005, 07:44
Well, yes and no... Farmina declared war on TIOR, but I don't know what happened before, so either could be true.
Farmina
03-05-2005, 07:46
Well, yes and no... Farmina declared war on TIOR, but I don't know what happened before, so either could be true.

Farmina actually never declared war. Justinian called on the councils to 'praise' the military for trying to force TIOR to retract the decleration of war. In matters of war, the military can do whatever it pleases and the Emperor and Councils just need to look unified for the cameras.