NationStates Jolt Archive


The principles behind an NS World War

Trolsk
29-04-2005, 18:36
OOC: By the scale of the whole FC situation, this little 'argument' has escalated into an NS World War. Nations are taking sides, in HUGE numbers, both for and against. It would appear that the one spark of Nuclear Weapons, just like the assassination of that old guy in 1914, has managed to cause NS RPers to enter into this overblown battle.

Well, Trolsk is in a position to fully declare aggresive neutrality. ANY nation entering within 100 Km of Trolskian land by sea without permission beforehand will be set upon by the Empire's Navy, Nuclear arsenals of about 150 strength, are ready to counter any attacks on, or even near Trolsk. We will NOT be allowing ANY forces to move through Trolskian lands to invade any other regions by ground forces. Any small Nations blessed to be 'land locked' by Trolskian borders from either side, and wish to remain neutral will be assured that Trolsk will defend them aswell. We will not tolerate the war on our doorstep..

Prime Minister Joseph Mercee
Call to power
29-04-2005, 19:09
ooc: you know a world war doesn’t seem to bad the weekends coming up the laws once used are now called "obsolete" and also a war of the giants was inevitable this is just the spark

bet the earth II people are feeling mighty jealous
Kaukolastan
29-04-2005, 19:13
Ahem... as my doppleganger would say:

Eh, I gives you ten ta one, this blows ova. These "wars" neva pan outsa, anywho. It's gonna turns inta some OOC bitchin' and blows ova, see?
The Scarecrows
29-04-2005, 19:15
It speaks the truth...

Silence it quickly.
Alcona and Hubris
29-04-2005, 19:15
Hmm...a world war...what is this one WW IIXX...

Really after the last great World War V, which was five wars at once...nothing has quite worked...
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 19:19
OoC: How the HELL can this go to blows? I mean, 90% of the large/influential nations are on the same side.

Sharina, Hogsweat, Euroslavia, Aust, Hataria, AMF & Guffingford(*grin*), Isselmere and last some shitty nation know as Dumpsterdam.

Edit: Forgot Euroslavia, added to boost Euro's ego and to get petted in return.
Call to power
29-04-2005, 19:22
OoC: How the HELL can this go to blows? I mean, 90% of the large/influential nations are on the same side.

Sharina, Hogsweat, Aust, Hataria, AMF & Guffingford(*grin*), Isselmere and last some shitty nation know as Dumpsterdam.


ooc: just like the triple entante in WW1 but Germany still gave then a fair spanking (though they did lose but that’s what you get for messing with Britain and to be more precise my genes)
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 19:24
OoC: If this comes to blows, I suspect that any opponents will be wiped under the table in less then a week, unless somehow this ends in OoC bickering.

Which is highly unlikely since both NATO and the RWC are on the side(who'd have thought of that?)
Celtayoshi
29-04-2005, 20:01
ooc: you know a world war doesn’t seem to bad the weekends coming up the laws once used are now called "obsolete" and also a war of the giants was inevitable this is just the spark

bet the earth II people are feeling mighty jealous

you are aware that Earth II rules do not prevent earth II nations from RPing within the nationstates community? The rules only say you cannot participate in another RL earth rp.
The Silver Turtle
29-04-2005, 20:16
Ah, NS World Wars, I remember those.
Actually, I'm still too young to remember the first (the Amerigo War), but boy was I responsible for four, five and 'six' (also known as five-and-a-half or five-and-a-quarter...Like Alcona said, since Five they haven't worked.)

And I must admit I don't quite know what you're talking about..? I don't check the MT/PMT section very much...So could someone please fill me in?
Call to power
29-04-2005, 20:32
catfish has broken many international laws such as expanding his coast and he won't back down even when he is totally out gunned but some nations have decided to join him seeing this as a noob bash (which its not
The Macabees
29-04-2005, 20:39
catfish has broken many international laws such as expanding his coast and he won't back down even when he is totally out gunned but some nations have decided to join him seeing this as a noob bash (which its not

Hehe, out gunned in your perspective. You can't outgun a nation crazy enough to nuke your fleets back to the stone age.
Der Angst
29-04-2005, 20:43
catfish has broken many international laws such as expanding his coast and he won't back down even when he is totally out gunned but some nations have decided to join him seeing this as a noob bash (which its notNo. Such. Thing. As. International. Law. Regarding. National. Waters. For. Nations. Not. In. The. UN.

NS is not RL, get that in your head >.<
The Silver Turtle
29-04-2005, 20:51
No. Such. Thing. As. International. Law. Regarding. National. Waters. For. Nations. Not. In. The. UN.

NS is not RL, get that in your head >.<
Yeah, I was just wondering when someone started enforcing "International Law"
I've invaded people for the heck of it, no-one gives a damn if it's legal or not.
The Evil Overlord
29-04-2005, 21:27
No. Such. Thing. As. International. Law. Regarding. National. Waters.

Quite so.

However, there are many commonly-held and generally acknowledged standards. The extraterritoriality of Embassies and the 12-nautical-mile territorial limit are two of these standards which His Omniferocity respects and recognizes, among others.

For the record, the Dominion refuses to acknowledge any national claims extending beyond 12 nautical miles (although we do accept economic exclusion zones extending to 200 nautical miles) or above 40 kilometers altitude. During past times of crisis, His Omniferocity's government has accepted temporary exclusions of foreign warships from areas near a belligerent's national waters, provided the rights of neutral shipping are observed and the "normal" state of affairs is quickly restored.


Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs
Concador
29-04-2005, 21:43
This isn't just a war against international laws which don't apply, it's about a nation willing to launch 200 nukes at the tip of a hat.
Der Angst
29-04-2005, 21:56
This isn't just a war against international laws which don't apply, it's about a nation willing to launch 200 nukes at the tip of a hat.'Tip of a hat' being 'Imminent invasion'?

Ya'know, not moving a fleet in there, looking very threatening, would have prevented such with casual ease.
Stevid
29-04-2005, 21:58
"sigh" NS World Wars (i thought people were bored of them).

But won't some International laws apply to a point. People are gonna break the Geneva Convention, but you'd limit it to troops not civilians.

I'm just worried about the flaming and how old allies will fall apart.

Sounds like fun!!
Concador
29-04-2005, 22:06
ooc-Der Angst: I would have, in the absence of a fleet, asked for international support.
Isselmere
29-04-2005, 23:31
Ah, NS World Wars, I remember those.
Actually, I'm still too young to remember the first (the Amerigo War)
I remember the Amerigo War, though as a different nation (either Mazosia or Azbinia, I can't recall which, having entered the game in August 2002). A classic, truly amazing. I left before the shooting started, if I recollect correctly. Those were the days...
Alcona and Hubris
30-04-2005, 00:33
I remember the Amerigo War, though as a different nation (either Mazosia or Azbinia, I can't recall which, having entered the game in August 2002). A classic, truly amazing. I left before the shooting started, if I recollect correctly. Those were the days...

I could say something about old fogies...but this doesn't sound like a World War this sound more like an old FiK or Bisons noob hunt.

*shakes head* Now I remember why I don't come over here much anymore...

Really I think the collapse of the Ur led attack against Melkor and the massive bitchfest that resulted showed that NS was incapable of a large war anymore. I mean we had two respected NS players all but pissing on each other and unable to reliably deal with OOC mechanics.

Well it was a massive war with three cocurrent fronts, and it acutally was just ignored out of existance. But it is a good warning to young nations who want to go off and have a large war.
Hataria
30-04-2005, 00:44
OoC: How the HELL can this go to blows? I mean, 90% of the large/influential nations are on the same side.

Sharina, Hogsweat, Euroslavia, Aust, Hataria, AMF & Guffingford(*grin*), Isselmere and last some shitty nation know as Dumpsterdam.

Edit: Forgot Euroslavia, added to boost Euro's ego and to get petted in return.


OOC: I am a Super Power :) :) :)