NationStates Jolt Archive

With all the nations participating its good to know where all the threads are located on the subject. Here goes:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415708 - Hataria donates biological weapons to Feline Catfish.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414555 Feline Catfish Production of nuclear arms begins.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414827 Guffingford warns Makaar, lots of junk but eventually Makaar is destroyed in one crappy post.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414604 Guffingford mobilizes in favour of FC.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415632 Communist Louisiana orders 3rd fleet to sail to Feline Catfish.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415625 Coalition forces AGAINST Feline Catfish.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415716 OOC discussion about it

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415653 Automagfreek's stance on this issue.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415709 Mationland declares war to Feline Catfish

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415624 Communist Louisiana rallies nations to join the fight AGAINST Feline Catfish

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414512 The original thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415576 Feline Catfish claims 100 nautical miles as national waters

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415615 Neoma responds to above thread in a new thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415655 Tocrowkia declares support in favour of Feline Catfish.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415654 Same as above, this time Sharina does it.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415646 Artitsa requests a meeting between him and FC.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414918 Risban mobilizes.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415727 Hogsweat rallies nations to PROTECT Feline Catfish.

Feel free to add new ones.

good job gufingford, i was lost until i found this. Freedom for FC!!!

Added this one: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415727

Has anyone actually realised that FC has vanished? I havent seen him comment in any threads today-Methinks you may be wasting your time. :confused:

Has anyone actually realised that FC has vanished? I havent seen him comment in any threads today-Methinks you may be wasting your time. :confused:
I agree,

i also think that FC has made alot of commotion. Im kinda tired of hearing about it, personally.

i smell a puppet

agreed

Wow, I had no idea that there were so many threads concerning FC...

This reminds me of an quite similiar situation from last year.

Do any of you guys and gals remember the nation of Feminany? The one that outlawed men and such, then a massive coalition of nations jumped on her. We haven't seen Feminany since then.

What's more, she was a good quality RP'er for a newcomer. How many good RP's have we lost by her quitting NS because of the despicable dog-piles exactly like what is happening to Feline Catfish?

This is exactly why I am pissed off, because how many good newcomer RP'ers are driven away from NS because of people that dogpile them when the newcomer does something radical or different? No wonder NS is losing some good RP in the process.

Seriously, if this bullshit happens again, I'll jump right in IC'ly to defend the newcomer who has good RP skills.

Why don't we kick all those anti-FC people off NS? That'll teach them.

What really pisses me off... is people bitching about nations picking on FC. It is all IC and theres no reason to keep beating this dead horse. Knock it off already, FC has more than likely disappeared and I say all the better.

What really pisses me off... is people bitching about nations picking on FC. It is all IC and theres no reason to keep beating this dead horse. Knock it off already, FC has more than likely disappeared and I say all the better.

There's a big difference.

We as NS players should be encouraging new RP'ers with reasonable RP skills (not the godmodding or cheater RP types) to continue RP on NS, and learn from their mistakes IC'ly and OOC'ly.

But if everybody adopted your stance, Greater Valia, then NS will dry up in RP quality. When old, established RP'ers take their leave from NS either from RL issues or "bored" with NS, where will new good RP'ers come from if you and your ilk keep beating them down?

This exact same thing happened to Feminany, a good newbie RP'er when she outlawed men in her nation, last year. We haven't seen her since, because she was most definitely turned off by the "OMG! Lets all beat up the small nation!" mentality of many of you.

What's more digusting / insulting is that some mid-aged nations from 2004 and even 2003 are participating in "Lets smack down the newbie nation, and impose our will on them! Hahaha!!!!" behavior.

Very well said Sharina.

There's a big difference.

We as NS players should be encouraging new RP'ers with reasonable RP skills (not the godmodding or cheater RP types) to continue RP on NS, and learn from their mistakes IC'ly and OOC'ly.

But if everybody adopted your stance, Greater Valia, then NS will dry up in RP quality. When old, established RP'ers take their leave from NS either from RL issues or "bored" with NS, where will new good RP'ers come from if you and your ilk keep beating them down?

This exact same thing happened to Feminany, a good newbie RP'er when she outlawed men in her nation, last year. We haven't seen her since, because she was most definitely turned off by the "OMG! Lets all beat up the small nation!" mentality of many of you.

What's more digusting / insulting is that some mid-aged nations from 2004 and even 2003 are participating in "Lets smack down the newbie nation, and impose our will on them! Hahaha!!!!" behavior.

My ilk? Spare me. Obviously FC has gone and fudged the poodle or the coalition against FC thread wouldnt have had such a strong response.

Secondly, I will say that in reading the thread where he demands nuclear arms I have observed a noted improvement in his RPing skills and general eloquence when writing.

Thirdly, the fact remains that his attitude is horrible and he shouldnt resort to flagrantly insulting people who dont agree with him OOCly and ICly.

And again, I refuse to acknowlegde the fact that all of this fuss is just because hes a newbie nation. If you had two eyes in your head you would see that it is not the case at all, in fact nothing could be farther from the truth. As it stands now, FC has outraged the world community (and rightly so I might add) by his outlandish maritime claims, casual use of nuclear weapons, et cetera.

In conclusion, ICly I support using this strong show of force to make FC see the error of his ways and to hopefully open peace talks without firing a shot.

I believe that FC has done us all a huge favour and energised those complacent nations - no one and nothing is unattainable if you are smaller then everyone else - FC has managed to rally some of the largest nations here to his cause.

He's given everyone a rude shock and begun a brilliant roleplay.

If he was still around I'd give him a cookie.

This is exactly why I am pissed off, because how many good newcomer RP'ers are driven away from NS because of people that dogpile them when the newcomer does something radical or different? No wonder NS is losing some good RP in the process.

Seriously, if this bullshit happens again, I'll jump right in IC'ly to defend the newcomer who has good RP skills.
Feel free to point out any dogpiling. I saw Ankhmet, Zackaroth and some newbs attacking FC, who had the defence of half of NS. Frankly, I don't think FC is too good a RPer, just using nukes to solve everything. FC is a perfect example of why I ignore all use of nukes. Someone comes within twenty miles, send two hundred nukes at them. Someone looks at you the wrong way, nuke them. Thats no way to RP.

At which point did he retaliate against anyone looking the wrong way...? I didn't read that...

The fleet that suddenly fluxed in was hostile, so he did as he threatened to do.

Please get your facts right.

He isn't so extreme, when you think about how the other larger nations reacted.

Feel free to point out any dogpiling. I saw Ankhmet, Zackaroth and some newbs attacking FC, who had the defence of half of NS. Frankly, I don't think FC is too good a RPer, just using nukes to solve everything. FC is a perfect example of why I ignore all use of nukes. Someone comes within twenty miles, send two hundred nukes at them. Someone looks at you the wrong way, nuke them. Thats no way to RP.
Superbly written Sanctaphrax, and entirely accurate. FC wants nukes, fine. Other nations threaten to attack her, OK, I'll defend her. She extends her maritime claims to 100 nautical miles to "protect herself," well, sod that. It's all just an enormous joke now.

At which point did he retaliate against anyone looking the wrong way...? I didn't read that...
:rolleyes:
He didn't, I was making a point. If you let him use nukes over something as trivial as this, and even endorse it, then he's going to learn that nukes solve everything.

I've seen during my time here on NS tens of blockades, none of them so much as involved NBC weapons at any point, yet this one starts the blockade with two hundred nukes.

We'll calm him down and appeal to him to remove the 100 Nm boundary once the current situation has blown over. Patience.

Woohoo! This is the first time in 2005 Isselmere posted in a thread of mine! Anyway, I'm defending FC out of principle ICly and OOCly. Every nation, except the smiley spamming n00bs, deserve a chance. And frankly people like Greater Valia don't think so. It's absurd so much attention is paid to this, but at least its better than doing nothing.

Or read another wannabe genocide thread for that matter.

Like I said, everything he has done so far has been exactly as he warned - 'If a hostile invasion force enters my boundary, I'll slag them.'

Ankhmet and such simply got haughty, overstepped their boundaries. Size does not equal totalitarian control.

Noone has the right to deny FC anything. (Although the 100 Nm border thing seriously will be cut down in size. It's set a startling precedent.)

I have this to say, Sanctaphrax.


Suppose you're suddenly a 10 million nation again. Your economy, military, etc. reverts back to a 10 million population nation status.

You would want some defense aganist large warmonger nations or other types of "bully" nations. You cannot do so with limited manpower with a 10 million total population. Thus, you would need powerful weapons to make up for the deficiency in manpower, lest your 10 million nation be obliterated during first few weeks of RP here at NS thanks to NS nation "Bully's". The only powerful weapons in MT RP's that would give massive invasions a pause would be biological, chemical, and nuclear weapons.

It happened that Feline Catfish had the balls and guts to go for nuclear weapons to DEFEND himself aganist the "bully" NS nations. It would be similiar to a little 8 year old boy weighing only 80 pounds getting a metal baseball bat to ward off 12 year old bullies weighing in at 150 pounds, so that the 8 year old boy will not be hurt.

Put yourselves in Feline Catfish's shoes and ponder on that for a moment.

The little eight year old boy should stay out of trouble until he's old enough to pick that kind of fight ;)
Thats what I did, stayed in the shadows, learning what is and isn't accepted, then started RPing when I reached about 700million if memory serves. Besides, you'll note his first thread included the words "DEMANDS" in capitals. Any ten million nation should know better than to DEMAND anything from nations with billions of people.

Also, I'd be busy joining alliances that suited my political/religious standings, making friends so that if I ever did get invaded, I'd have friends. Not wait for people to defend me over the OOC principle. I always learned that attacking IC for OOC reasons was frowned upon.

The little eight year old boy should stay out of trouble until he's old enough to pick that kind of fight ;)
Thats what I did, stayed in the shadows, learning what is and isn't accepted, then started RPing when I reached about 700million if memory serves. Besides, you'll note his first thread included the words "DEMANDS" in capitals. Any ten million nation should know better than to DEMAND anything from nations with billions of people.

Also, I'd be busy joining alliances that suited my political/religious standings, making friends so that if I ever did get invaded, I'd have friends. Not wait for people to defend me over the OOC principle. I always learned that attacking IC for OOC reasons was frowned upon.

I see your point, Sanctaphrax, but the issue remains...

"Staying in shadows" won't help much if aggressive nations come looking for you to invade for easy land and victory.

In the NS world, 10 - 20 million man armies are the norm. It would quickly be over for a small 5 - 10 million nation under invasion from a 20 million army. There would be very little left for the 10 million population nation's allies to "save".

Keep in mind, once the aggressive nation goes to war and begins invasion of the 10 million population's nation. The small nation's allies would need TIME to mobilize and deploy, and in that time interval, the small nation would be razed to the ground by the 20 million man army of the invader.


However, with WMD's, the small nation will be able to kill a good portion of the 20 million man army, far more than they could via employing a 100,000 - 200,000 man army. See what I'm getting at?

An excellent deterrent.

Which is of course, one of the reasons such technology hasn't been given to real life nations of a certain size...

Too much of a threat.

An excellent deterrent.

Which is of course, one of the reasons such technology hasn't been given to real life nations of a certain size...

Too much of a threat.

Exactly. Once the 20 million man army invader loses 10 - 15 million men or more from the nuke / WMD attack from the small nation, then the invader will be weakened significantly. He won't be able to defend his own lands as effectively, as a sizable chunk of his army is dead.

Other nations seize the opporunity to invade the invader, and thus, the invader loses for invading a small nation like Feline Catfish.

? I havent disappeared. Just because I dont post for 27 hours... I do have a social life, y'know. Anyway, I'll be away most of tomorrow too, but I'll be back Sunday and I'll be able to post all day Monday too (Bank Holiday in Britain).

((Try dealing with an social life that includes being a model... It fucks up your sleeping, eating, and partying habits. Although the pay is excellent. *Insert mandatory superior chuckle here*))

My take on this situation is that when a new player (and I was a total newb not all that long ago) comes in and starts posting about how strong they are, and how they're using nuclear weapons, one attempts to OOC correct the situation. I nearly got in a war with Farmina before my fifth day on NS. I got out of it by admitting that I didn't realize my earlier comments would IC-provoke a war, and that I didn't want to roll over and die before my first week was out. In short, I said I was in over my head. The incident was pretty much dropped and I was free to develop Krioval a bit further.

The first actions of a new nation shouldn't be to provoke a war, and I support all manner of OOC actions to keep a smaller nation from doing this. At the same time, if someone is going to be both IC and OOC unreasonable, the dogpile is well-earned. Further, I don't think that this topic merits eighteen trillion threads, most of which devolve into OOC bitching about what an appropriate response is. After three months here, I can honestly say that 'the rules' seem to change for some people to the point where I would be unable to RP with them, and that's sad. So can 'we' please consolidate all this into one coherent thread about FC and let the other RPs spend a little time on page one?

All of the above is OOC. If it were IC, Krioval would have dropped a Hammer of Raijin on FC just to end this monstrosity.

Most of the argument can be intwined into some good logic. FC made a good move by purchesing nukes for defence. Thats what i belive nukes should be used for.... that and stoping some n00bish stuff. Anyway, if he said that he'd nuke someone if they invaded, then the invading nations are to blame, since they have known the risk in the first place. Both sides I can understand. It is a little scary handing a small nation a couple nukes, cause I'm sure that there have definatly been times were when the nation gets nukes, NS is filled with n00bish nukes fests, countered by OOC "Ignore!!!" 279564615965054 times. So, it would be a little understandable to invade a nation with nukes so it doesn't turn into a world war (insert large number here). Then again, invading kinda does cause contraversy. If I saw a small nation recieve some nukes and I don't want to be held hostage with nuking threats, I would simply ally with the nation. Theres a win-win situation. He doesn't nuke you, and you've got a little help when your in trouble. So yeah, invading kinda doesn't work.

I do have a social life,
REALLY!??
what's it like, i hear its cool

Woohoo! This is the first time in 2005 Isselmere posted in a thread of mine! Anyway, I'm defending FC out of principle ICly and OOCly. Every nation, except the smiley spamming n00bs, deserve a chance. And frankly people like Greater Valia don't think so. It's absurd so much attention is paid to this, but at least its better than doing nothing.

Or read another wannabe genocide thread for that matter.

You are frankly in no position to tell me what I will and wont do in these forums. And it isnt just me I might add, just look at the overwhelming response in the Coalition thread. FC has allowed his arrogance and total disregard for established rp etiquette and now people are pissed. So, in conclusion im going to say once again that he has brought this upon himself due to the disgusting way in which he conducted his rps. If you want even more ammunition against FC read my earlier post. Now as far as im concerned you have nothing to say to me.

No, no, you're pissed because you can't auto-destroy me just because you were founded before me.

Can you put up an order of battle? You don't have to go around searching for it, but it would be nice if people posted it and then Guff copy/pasted it to this main post. That way I can know exactly what I need to send and where.

You are frankly in no position to tell me what I will and wont do in these forums. And it isnt just me I might add, just look at the overwhelming response in the Coalition thread. FC has allowed his arrogance and total disregard for established rp etiquette and now people are pissed. So, in conclusion im going to say once again that he has brought this upon himself due to the disgusting way in which he conducted his rps. If you want even more ammunition against FC read my earlier post. Now as far as im concerned you have nothing to say to me.


If he doesn't, I do. Did this war start over an OOC of "U CANT RP!!!11one!", or the IC fact of "H'es got nukes!" Think about it for a moment...

"Staying in shadows" won't help much if aggressive nations come looking for you to invade for easy land and victory.

Firstly, small nations shouldnt go picking fights with much larger ones. This is just plain common sense. Second, nations trying to get easy land is a moot point. If this had been played out in one of the Earths, then I would most likely have quite a different take on the matter.

In the NS world, 10 - 20 million man armies are the norm. It would quickly be over for a small 5 - 10 million nation under invasion from a 20 million army. There would be very little left for the 10 million population nation's allies to "save".

Any good military planner worth a damn would realize that 10 to 20 million is too damn big for an army. Maybe whole militaries, but certainly not armies.

Keep in mind, once the aggressive nation goes to war and begins invasion of the 10 million population's nation. The small nation's allies would need TIME to mobilize and deploy, and in that time interval, the small nation would be razed to the ground by the 20 million man army of the invader.

They were already protecting him.

However, with WMD's, the small nation will be able to kill a good portion of the 20 million man army, far more than they could via employing a 100,000 - 200,000 man army. See what I'm getting at?

1) No I dont see your point.

2) Thats just bad form in any RP. Using nukes is in very bad taste.

Firstly, small nations shouldnt go picking fights with much larger ones. This is just plain common sense. Second, nations trying to get easy land is a moot point. If this had been played out in one of the Earths, then I would most likely have quite a different take on the matter.
I didn't, if you'd bothered to read the threads.

2) Thats just bad form in any RP. Using nukes is in very bad taste.
As I said, this is just your opinion because it means you cant kill my nation in one post.

If he doesn't, I do. Did this war start over an OOC of "U CANT RP!!!11one!", or the IC fact of "H'es got nukes!" Think about it for a moment...

You have eyes and hands. Go read one of the many threads listed on the front page to find out.

Firstly, small nations shouldnt go picking fights with much larger ones. This is just plain common sense. Second, nations trying to get easy land is a moot point. If this had been played out in one of the Earths, then I would most likely have quite a different take on the matter.

He didn't, it was the anti-FC coalition who parked their fleet because of his actions. I bet you 100 bucks he would have been happy if you would have let him have his nukes, and there would have been no international incident.



Any good military planner worth a damn would realize that 10 to 20 million is too damn big for an army. Maybe whole militaries, but certainly not armies.

I'll have to agree with you here - logistically speaking those twenty million should include a small proportion of front line personnel, and large proportion of logistical personnel. My ground army rarely surpasses 200,000 in off shore deployments.









2) Thats just bad form in any RP. Using nukes is in very bad taste.

Yea, well he used them - so what are you going to do about it? Bitch? Don't. He used them, now RP as if he did.

I didn't, if you'd bothered to read the threads.

First you 'DEMANDED' Nuclear weapons. Then you made a ridiculous maritime claim. This would be tantamount to Canada announcing annexation of the United States then firing ballistic missles at anyone who dare oppose it.

As I said, this is just your opinion because it means you cant kill my nation in one post.

I could if I wanted to but certain third parties would most likely intervene. And besides, I like your writing.

First you 'DEMANDED' Nuclear weapons. Then you made a ridiculous maritime claim. This would be tantamount to Canada announcing annexation of the United States then firing ballistic missles at anyone who dare oppose it.

Don't judge a thread by it's title. If you would have read most of the posting in the thread FC soon became rather cordial with his suppliers, including buying them, and not just demanding them.

As I said, this is just your opinion because it means you cant kill my nation in one post.
OOC: Don't be so sure. A few liberally lobbed missiles (ICBMs, SLBMs, etc.) and you're as gone as anyone can be. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

He didn't, it was the anti-FC coalition who parked their fleet because of his actions. I bet you 100 bucks he would have been happy if you would have let him have his nukes, and there would have been no international incident.

Im not even refering to that. I was talking about his earlier thread where he demanded nuclear weapons.

Yea, well he used them - so what are you going to do about it? Bitch? Don't. He used them, now RP as if he did.

Id rather not since I ignore nukes.

Don't judge a thread by it's title. If you would have read most of the posting in the thread FC soon became rather cordial with his suppliers, including buying them, and not just demanding them.

And became beligerant to people who said stockpiling nuclear weapons was not such a good idea.

And became beligerant to people who said stockpiling nuclear weapons was not such a good idea.

Hell yea, I would too. If I aquire some new weapon and fifteen nations say, "OMGZ LOL j00 have n00ks...I invade you now!" I would be belligerent towards them too. Those who threatened by sending fleets now got what they deserved, a nuclear weapon to the face. Look, if you don't want to RP with nuclear weapons then don't join a damn RP which revolves around nuclear weapons.

Firstly, small nations shouldnt go picking fights with much larger ones. This is just plain common sense. Second, nations trying to get easy land is a moot point. If this had been played out in one of the Earths, then I would most likely have quite a different take on the matter.

That was not what I was saying. There *are* large nation n00bs who go looking for easy fights and pickings aganist smaller nations. In this case, it is not the small nation at fault, rather it will be the large warmongering nation's fault.

Any good military planner worth a damn would realize that 10 to 20 million is too damn big for an army. Maybe whole militaries, but certainly not armies.

A good number of invasion RP's do not take this into account. Most all warmongers send huge WW I type armies in hopes of smashing through their enemies. In other words, there are far more RP'ers that adopt "OMG! 20 million man army pwnz j00" than RP'ers who go by realistic warfare.

And whats more, these "20 million man army" RP'ers have allies who would help or support the person's invasion of a small nation such as Feline Catfish or Feminany. Then things dogpile and get out of hand.


They were already protecting him.

Several points.

1. Feline Catfish has made it clear his people won't tolerate foreign troops (even troops of allies) on his nation's soil.

2. I am referring to small newbie nations that RP well, not just Feline Catfish.

3. Some RP'ers are guilty of "Fleets arrive near Nation X's waters, having travelled 10,000 miles in just 1 day" magical teleportation of fleets with no regard for time needed to sail vast distances in NS Earth.

4. It takes weeks, if not months to deploy any sizable military force to either attack an invader or defend an ally. Once the enemy nation begins invasion (shelling from sea, bombing raids, landing marine troops, etc.) and the nation being invaded calls for allied support... the allies would need weeks to muster a force big enough (Like 100,000 soldiers or 100 warships) to send to help the nation being invaded. By that time, the uber invading army with an invading military of 20x - 40x the size of the defenders military would have laid waste to everything in the victim nation.



1) No I dont see your point.

2) Thats just bad form in any RP. Using nukes is in very bad taste.

1) My point is simple even a 5 year old can see it. Small nations need powerful weapons to defend aganist a larger and hostile foe. Common sense.

2) When you have your back up aganist the wall, with options exhausted, no more major military to put up a fight, and your navy + airforce are 90% - 100% trashed... and the enemy keeps on coming, I am sure you'd resort to WMD's.

The USA or Russia would have done the same thing during the Cold War. if Russia was faced with imminent destruction, nuke away. Ditto for the USA.

TWENTY THREE topics (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=298761) featuring the name Feline Catfish in the title, just in the last week? This is absurd.

Legitimate roleplays are being driven to back pages over this obsession with a single nation. No single player could possibly respond to all of these threads, and it has a strong flavor of "piling on" (which I know other players have mentioned).

Moderation doesn't regulate roleplay, but c'mon - this is nuts. People, exercise some self-control here. If you can't find a way to join one of the existing threads, don't bother.

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator

Just to make sure people see Fris's post. A small bump.

Catfish Doctrine of Strategic Defence Released http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416054

Ultimatum to Feline Catfish (International backing needed) http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415624

Feline Catfish Claims Waters out to 100nm http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415576

Task Force 93002 Initiates Exercise Near FC Waters; Aimed to Discourage Anti-FC Elem http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416057

Artitsa calls out to Feline Catfish http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415646

Proposed Treaty for the Feline Catfish Incident http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415795

Hataria to Give Fighter Planes to Feline Catfish http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416365

Coalition Defending FC : Feline Catfish Sovereignty Defense Pact http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415727


Hm... ironically for some more developements to the situation I was going to make a reference thread for someone else... but it seems this one exists already.

These are the ones I have, feel free to add them Guffingford

I don't think there's a single person who opposes FC that actually cares that he's a smaller nation. If he wants to RP with the larger/more experienced nations and RP LIKE the experienced nations, he should expect to be treated like the more experienced nations. We're not 'dogpiling' him because he's new. He's getting hostile repsonses because of his actions.

Here's an example that can be used in my defense:
When I was a young nation, just a few NS years old, there was one nation that developed Fusion reactors (Farmina, I believe) and I asked them if it would be alright if I purchased the plans. You know what his response was?
"No. First of all, the purchase and the building of the reactors would probably blow your entire budget. Second, we can't trust you with these designs since you're not an ally, but a complete stranger nation. And thirdly (and most important) you haven't deleoped the technology or researched this enough to uderstand it."
Now I was a bit upset, but I understood his reasoning. How could I build or buy something I don't understand? FC isn't old enough to have researched nuclear power. If they started a nuclear research program first and then bought the weapons, then this would probably be a lot better. But if I triedto buy a gun, but I didn't know how to use it and the salesman knew, do you honestly think that he'd trust me with one? I think not.

And a nation being dogpiled because she bans men?? There's something wrong there.

Here's an idea: Why don't we let ALL of these threads die and/or be locked and FC can try again with the devlopment of nuclear arms?

Here's an eample that can be used in my defense:

Isn't this the third, four or even fifth time you've said this? We know that he didn't listen to you and frankly the OOC arguements aren't needed now. Deal with him in character or ignore him. I would rather this thread is used for referencing all the RPs linked to this situation, not OOC bitching at how bad FC's RP is.

An update now shows 27 Feline Catfish titled topics. As Fris said, try and exercise some self-control people! All this fuss over one person.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=300868

TWENTY THREE topics (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/search.php?searchid=298761) featuring the name Feline Catfish in the title, just in the last week? This is absurd.

Legitimate roleplays are being driven to back pages over this obsession with a single nation. No single player could possibly respond to all of these threads, and it has a strong flavor of "piling on" (which I know other players have mentioned).

~ Frisbeeteria ~
NationStates Forum Moderator
So now the mods say I'm not a "legitimate roleplayer"? Thanks a lot guys.

So now the mods say I'm not a "legitimate roleplayer"? Thanks a lot guys.

No, the mods are saying other people aren't playing with you fairly.

two points

1. im quite annoyed because my pc just broke on me while typing up and essay and RP ironicly about FC.

2. people do need to cool it on FC and FC need to cool it, i belive we are baiting him and loving the attention, and he baiting us and loving it. I am getting annoyed, trying to keep up with the RPs, i belive i am in four of them, i know its not many but im a small-time RPer trying to make it big.
can't we go back to the crazy IC actions of DA/VE building mile high statues and declaring war upon 1 day nations. or the pieces of art from many NS players.

i ask for RPers to start new NS RPs and leave the age old FC threads. the same goes for FC too, get into some serious new RPs, no godmoding from
either side or bringing up the past.

I draw the line here________________________________________________

lol... the entire FC thing is about 3 days old. And most Rpers didnt like the CM DAVE thing much. At least they didnt judging by the mIRC "DA DEAT Parties".

lol... the entire FC thing is about 3 days old. And most Rpers didnt like the CM DAVE thing much. At least they didnt judging by the mIRC "DA DEAT Parties".
yeh i know, i think i signed one of them, it did cause some laughs though