NationStates Jolt Archive


Dumpsterdam to extend territorial waters and initiate first strike policy.

Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 15:43
As of midnight today, the Empire will be extending its territorial waters to a hundred nautical miles to ensure security of the region.

Coupled with this will be a policy where any fleet entering the one hundred mile line without Royal Navy consent will be fired upon; the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in such attacks will not be shunned.

The nations of Endenia and Calpe now fall within territorial waters of the Empire and the Grand Armada will be dispatched to ensure the security in those waters surrounding them.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: Come on you bastards, lets see how you respond to this, a good a reason as ever to get out of hybernation mode.

AMF, if your reading this, I'll be on AIM the entire night so hopefully see you there.
Leafanistan
29-04-2005, 15:47
Leafanistan will send the 12th Naval Expenditionary force consisting of one small escort carrier and 2 destroyers to escort the remainder of our merchant ships from the area. The force will stay outside this border and remain there making sure no Leafanistan ship carelessly wanders into this border and gets destroyed.
Brydog
29-04-2005, 15:47
So, who gives a care
The Commander of The National Wildlife Service.
Welsh Sheep Unite
29-04-2005, 15:54
As a member of the United Nations, and on the Security Council, I urge you to reconsider this motive, you will not have the support of the United Nations. However I shall move our merchant ships out of your waters, you are not to attack them.
The United Nations proposes an alternative to your plans...... extending your territorial water to 75 miles and allowing the concerned nations 25 miles of territorial water around them, understood......
;)
New Endenia
29-04-2005, 16:07
The White Tower Of New Endenia welcomes this move by our close allies of Dumpsterdam, The Amrylin Seat also welcomes the protection extended by the Grand Armada around New Endenia's shores. Furthermore the Amrylin Seat assures all nations trading with Haven that the move made by Dumpsterdam will not affect any trade or cause any disturbances to Endenia's shores.

The White Tower Of New Endenia
Blessed Be By The Light.
Guffingford
29-04-2005, 16:13
(...)Official Statement

Guffingford laughs. You tell your United Nations to bug off to a nation where they can dictate and boss nations around who want to, instead of bothering us with these trivialities. You have no power, nor the will to subdue my nation, and my people. We protect ourselves from filth, and our armies enforce it.

- Johan Gleighmont, President of the Allied States of Guffingford
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 16:14
The Empire will not let itself be dictated as to its regional policies and suggests that Welsh Sheep Unite goes home and does not return to the Empire's waters.

The Grand Armada is currently conducting a sweep of the area alongside Endenian naval units so any stray submarines can be rooted out.

The clock is ticking, only seven hours remaining.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.
Welsh Sheep Unite
29-04-2005, 16:20
I shall have to warn you not to let this get too personal.... you have been warned......
:)
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 16:24
Let me rephrase that then WSU; screw off.

Alfarius Damocales,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Defence.
Welsh Sheep Unite
29-04-2005, 16:41
As a result of this insult, we have now mobilized our 13th and 19th fleets..... they will patrol your "proposed" borders and will maintain the peace, we have full UN support.
:sniper:
Nikolaos The Great
29-04-2005, 16:47
As a result of this insult, we have now mobilized our 13th and 19th fleets..... they will patrol your "proposed" borders and will maintain the peace, we have full UN support.
:sniper:
Official Public Announcement to Welsh Sheep Unite

Why don't you and your pathetic U.N. leave this life? You will be helping the world a lot if you do.

-Emperor Nikolaos Onassis
Athens, Greece

Official Public Announcement to Dumpsterdam

We support you. Greece officially recognizes your new territorial waters.

-Emperor Nikolaos Onassis
Athens, Greece
Greater Valia
29-04-2005, 16:47
We suggest extending your territorial waters to 20, or 25 nautical miles with a 200 nautical mile trade zone.

Flavious T. Root, Valian Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Mini Miehm
29-04-2005, 16:49
As of midnight today, the Empire will be extending its territorial waters to a hundred nautical miles to ensure security of the region.

Coupled with this will be a policy where any fleet entering the one hundred mile line without Royal Navy consent will be fired upon; the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in such attacks will not be shunned.

The nations of Endenia and Calpe now fall within territorial waters of the Empire and the Grand Armada will be dispatched to ensure the security in those waters surrounding them.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: Come on you bastards, lets see how you respond to this, a good a reason as ever to get out of hybernation mode.

AMF, if your reading this, I'll be on AIM the entire night so hopefully see you there.


I shall not allow this to occur, time to call in some reinforcements.
New Endenia
29-04-2005, 16:52
As a result of this insult, we have now mobilized our 13th and 19th fleets..... they will patrol your "proposed" borders and will maintain the peace, we have full UN support.
:sniper:


The White Tower questions such a brazen move by the so called United Nations, Dumpsterdam has increased her territorial waters to protect her close allies and we do not see the point of asking for UN support on this matter! We ask that the United Nation forces stand down and leave us in peace lest it comes to open combat.

The White Tower Of New Endenia
Blessed Be By The Light
Welsh Sheep Unite
29-04-2005, 16:55
The United Nations Has decided to dispatch a peacekeeping force to patrol the proposed borders, trade will be allowed into the zone, but any military ships will be stopped......
We do not intend to start wars, but to end them
:sniper:
Greater Valia
29-04-2005, 16:57
The United Nations Has decided to dispatch a peacekeeping force to patrol the proposed borders, trade will be allowed into the zone, but any military ships will be stopped......
We do not intend to start wars, but to end them
:sniper:

OOC: That sniper graemlin is really n00bish...
Isselmere
29-04-2005, 17:02
[OOC: It's a pleasure to witness this, Dumpsterdam. My hat is off to you, sir.]

In a strike for contrariness, His Majesty's Government wholly approves of this move by Dumpsterdam to follow the example of the enlightened state of Feline Catfish and HM Government advises the nation of Welsh Sheep Unite to move its two trawlers so brazenly called the 13th and 19th fleets, away from those waters Dumpsterdam claims else see them sunk by the Dumpsterdam Royal Navy or other forces.

The Rt Hon Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC, RC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 17:02
It is impossible to "patrol our borders" since if you would have to violate the sovereign rights and territorial waters of atleast six other nations in the process, your fleets will stand down from our regional borders or face destruction.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: Hello, hello, happy island region that I am, you want to get to me? You have to pass the rest of the region since I'm praticly in the middle.
New Endenia
29-04-2005, 17:04
The United Nations Has decided to dispatch a peacekeeping force to patrol the proposed borders, trade will be allowed into the zone, but any military ships will be stopped......
We do not intend to start wars, but to end them


We do not ask for your peacekeeping forces to come and 'butt' in. New Endenia is perfectly capable to defend oneself, should we find that whatever Dumpsterdam has done to be unstatisfactory to the survival of New Endenia, we will voice it out to our close allies OURSELVES. We again kindly ask that the United Nations 'Peacekeeping' Force be withdrawn IMMEDIATELY or we will be forced to take measures.

Chief Ambassador Sarah Sedai
The White Tower Of New Endenia
Blessed Be By The Light.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 17:06
OoC: My please Isselmere, just seeing who is going to stop me.

And thanks for the new siggie quote! :)
New Endenia
29-04-2005, 17:10
Endenian News Network:

Black Tower Military Command has activated Naval Combat Groups Alpha 1 and Shadow 2 to patrol New Endenia waters and to ensure that the United Nations peacekeeping forces stay at their side of the borders. Use of force has been authorised. Furthermore Black Tower Military Command has activated Special DRGSs Combat Group Flower Company to be on high alert and be ready to be deployed.
Isselmere
29-04-2005, 17:10
OoC: My please Isselmere, just seeing who is going to stop me.

And thanks for the new siggie quote! :)
OOC: The pleasure's entirely mine, and I'm honoured to serve a good RPer! :)
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 17:17
OOC: The pleasure's entirely mine, and I'm honoured to serve a good RPer! :)

OoC: "Decent" would be the word to describe me.

IC:

Any so called "Peace-keeping" forces will be removed on sight, the Empire has had serious trouble with said forces before and will destroy them should they enter into its territorial waters or hamper its military and civilian shipping.

Furthermore, we thank Isselmere for their support, eventhough we suspected we'd be on the recieving end of one of their attack fleets for this action.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 18:26
Bump, lets hear some more opposition as you did with FC people, come on, don't be scared...
The True Way of Alan
29-04-2005, 18:39
The Holy Empire of the True Way of Alan, applauds Dumpsterdam's motives and moves. We offer any assistance that is needed.



OOC: Dump, I'm no longer being invaded by Merchant Guilds and so my MT nation is back. If you wanna, I'll ally with you. You seem decent enough, lol.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 18:44
OoC: Accepted, try not to blow up any bridges while your at it.
Non Aligned States
29-04-2005, 19:21
The Non Aligned States finds this trend of expansion of territorial waters with the threat of force to be disturbing, particularly regarding the aspect that it will destroy any fleet not of its own within the waters.

Given the recent improvement of trade ties that has occured between our nations, we have a reasonable fear for the safety for our merchant vessels as you have not specified what types of vessels will be fired upon. As such, we are left with little recourse but to assume you mean any vessel not of Dumpsterdamian or allied origin, regardless of purpose.

Of course, if you mean only military vessels, then the whole point is rendered moot as our armed forces are strictly regulated to within our borders only. However, if you mean to seal off the borders from all manner of non-allied vessels, then we have no choice but to recall our merchant vessels from your waters and announce the withdrawal of any assets belonging to us within Dumpsterdamian territory.

We await your response.

OOC: Its a simple call. If you meant you'd be blasting my merchant ships to kingdom come too, not much point in me doing any business with you since you'd only sink it. Literally I might add.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 19:31
OoC: I said fleets, so withdrawing merchants vessles won't be needed, unless your an enemy in which case we'd be blowing you up before this statement anyway.
Call to power
29-04-2005, 19:40
ooc: are you trying to spark a world war?

ic: Message from Call to power

your expansion is a clear and disgusting way to take advantage of the tense situation if the world fights this attack the catfish alliance will certainly continue there attacks on the fabric of humanity if we do nothing are course will seem weak and imperialistic
Calpe
29-04-2005, 19:57
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/muahdib/seal.gif

The Empire of Calpe approves of the actions of our ally, Dumpsterdam. We hereby publicly invite Dumpsterdam to take possession of the Heren Naval Base, and use it in accordance with the terms that will be discussed in private. We welcome the protection of the dumpsterdanian fleet and we will send our own carrier groups to protect our borders. Any nation inclined in meddling is invited to abstain as we do not wish their help.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y159/muahdib/signature.gif
The Silver Turtle
29-04-2005, 20:10
The Ineffable Empire sends it's official sarcastic, "We Don't Care" thumbs-up, accompanied by a muffin basket (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=1731) with a postcard commemorating when we decimated your navy.

OOC: Glad to see you back :)
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 20:14
We will send a rowing boat to collect our muffin basket.

With our first transaction done, the Empire finaly hopes to see the good side of Ineffable Empire a bit more, since our last confrontation was hardly a picknick.

Transfer of an attack fleet to Calpe will commence in a week.

Dan Reranderas,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Finance.

OoC: Couldn't resist TST ^_^.
The Silver Turtle
29-04-2005, 20:32
The Ineffable Empire will not permit any trespassing in our territorial waters. We consider the donation of said muffin basket as a gesture of hatchet-burying. We're not quite sure where said hatchet is, or where it should be buried, nor even how giving you a muffin basket will dig a hole, throw a hatchet in, and then refill said hole with dirt, but we are willing to give it a shot anyway.

Somewhere in International Waters
The Dumpsterdamian rowing boat was rowing along nicely. All around, the sea was calm. A seagull was sitting camly upon the water. Suddenly, it squawked loudly, and flew off. The rower looked at it a bit puzzled, but continued rowing. The sea grew slightly choppier, small waves began crashing into his boat from behind. But there wasn't a whisper of wind.
Had he looked behind, he would have seen the tip of an Ineffable Domination class stealth submarine rearing up from out the depths. But he didn't need to do that to see the surfacing sub. It had come up right beneath him, and in no time at all his rowing boat was beached upon the hull of the warship.
He may have been puzzled, he may not have been. This narrator doesn't know. He does know, however, that shortly afterwards a hatch opened in the hull of the submarine.
A man climbed out. He was dressed in what appeared to be a traditional boating costume; white trousers, white shirt, blue blazer with gold buttons, white captain's cap. Upon his badge was emblazoned a logo. As he approached the man in the rowing boat, it became clear that this logo was Steve (http://aa.1asphost.com/AllyG/steve.jpg), Official Spokesmuffin of Ineffable Friendly Muffin Corporation (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=1731). It was also clear that he was carrying the muffin basket, to be delivered to Dumpsterdam.
He handed this to the man in the rowing boat, doffed his cap in friendly recognition, and went back into the hatch.
A few moments passed, and the rowing boat was once more afloat in international waters.

OOC: Yes, I was bored too :p
ScorpionLand666
29-04-2005, 20:51
As the Department of External Affairs on behalf of ScorpionLand, we would like to approve of the said nations expansion of territorial waters, we would also like to express my severe approval of the repulsion of any peacekeeping force through violence.
Should any Assistance be needed in repealling United Nations Forces, we would like to offer my assistance in the matter.

Department of External Affairs,
ScorpionLand
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 21:45
The Empire is currently in progress of searching for said hatchet, we suspect it to be burried somewhere around the globe and we will start digging at once, we're bound to find it if we overturn every grain of sand.

On another note the support of ScorpionLand is noted and apreciated, their fleets are more then welcome in the region

Dan Reranderas,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Finance.
Concador
29-04-2005, 21:53
ooc: I get the feeling you're taking advantage of the FC situation...
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 21:59
ooc: I get the feeling you're taking advantage of the FC situation...

OoC: Not realy, only copying it, the waters in my region are mine anyway, this is just to piss of you hypocrites that are attacking him but not me for doing the exact same thing.
Concador
29-04-2005, 22:01
That's because if the FC incident comes to blows we won't be able to concentrate forces on you, we already have tons of nations on either side.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 22:10
OoC: Why just not try 1v1 then? Hell call Ankie and the rest and come to me...you'll see that I'm not push-over.
Credonia
29-04-2005, 22:10
Official Statement by President Sutton

"Credonia has become concerned with the actions taken by our ally, the nation of Dumpsterdam as of lately. Because of the potential threat posed by the actions taken by this nations government, we must renounce our alliance with them and take a neutral stance in all conflict matters that involve this nation. We do, however, wish to remain close friends, however, until serious reforms are made for the better, we do not wish to be an ally of a nation that takes wreckless actions and makes wreckless decisions and that will knowingly and deliberately push its allies towards war to fight for your cause. We wish to be no part of that, which is why I have decided that this is the only option to keep Credonia out of an unnecessary war that could have easily been averted if cooler heads had prevailed and diplomatic means of solving any conflicts were to willingly take place between all involved parties. It has been nice being an ally of Dumpsterdam, but the time has come to break that alliance and become nothing more than friendly nations until, as was stated, serious reforms in Dumpsterdam's foreign policy are made."

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia
The Silver Sky
29-04-2005, 22:12
ooc: I get the feeling you're taking advantage of the FC situation...
OOC: No really? I never would have guessed? :p
"The Silver Sky would like to say..... screw you? Wait Mr. President this can't be right." *President nods head* "It is right."
Oh well, this act of expanding territorial waters is viewed with suspiscion, but we would not like this to be view with hostitly, so while giving our opinion we would like to remain netural.

Edit: We are now allied with Credonia, and have many more allies.
Dumpsterdam
29-04-2005, 22:14
OoC: Always nice to see that you use MSN to contact me Creddie before you take drastic steps.

Doesn't matter, you've become a nuisance anyway, please withdraw your troops too.
The Silver Turtle
29-04-2005, 23:10
We have had our starships search from orbit. However, all we have been able to determine is that it is not lying above ground anywhere or, if it is, it is indoors. We also propose that nuking beaches will increase our search effeciency, by fusing the sand grains to glass, which we can than peer through to find the hatchet? We suggest all beach combers duck during the process. Of course, then we will have to dig through glass to extract the hatchet to properly bury it, but we assume this will still be quicker than a manual search of the planet.

OOC: ...I'll stop spamming now, if you want...
Farmina
30-04-2005, 02:19
We will support our ally, Dumpsterdam, as always. I must say I never expected a war over water. We shall also be taking the step of excluding non-allied naval vessels from within 80 nautical miles of Farmina as a temporary national security measure.

Thomas Goth
Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs
Iuthia
30-04-2005, 02:48
"And with that I conclude my report on the state of affairs in Zvarinograd, are there any further questions before I move on to the last subject on the agenda?" at the end of the long table, the chairman of the meeting, Iuthia's Foriegn Minister, Mick Lakely looked about the room at the other faces present, most of which he had long ago become accustom to over the time he had worked here.

"Okay, well it looks like once again Dumpsterdam is making a minor fuss over extended territorial waters and a new aggressive policy to enforce it, do any of our trade routes even go near that nation, Mr. Galwitz?"

Trade Minister Fred Galwitz, the balding old man had been present at a fair few of these meetings throughout his time in the position of Trade Minister, he had to walk with a cane these days of course but he was still as sharp as a razor when it came to numbers. "As far as I'm aware, the long distances between our nations and the highly unstable nature of the region has limited our trade with the region to the point where there are no trade routes which even come close to their territories... I can't see these changes making any difference in Iuthia's exports or importants at this time."

"Understood, we'll leave them to it then... there is no need to condemn them again, they got the message we don't like them a long time ago. Just make sure the Guild of Mariners is informed of the situation and we'll re-assess Dumpsterstan's threat rating... I don't like those WMD statements."
Non Aligned States
30-04-2005, 05:15
OoC: I said fleets, so withdrawing merchants vessles won't be needed, unless your an enemy in which case we'd be blowing you up before this statement anyway.

OOC: Ah, then it becomes clear. Although it should be pointed out that our merchant vessels are habitually outfitted with small arms and a security detachment due to the problem of increased piracy in both national and international waters.

Nothing bigger than small calibre machine gun emplacements due to the favored tactics of pirates to use small but fast raider boats to approach and board the ships. Good enough to fend off the typical pirates but nothing particularly threatening against other nations.

As for being enemies, I don't recall declaring war on anyone so far, much less taking offensive maneouvers unless you consider moving against rogue elements (AWOL fruitcake battleship captains) to be that.
Dumpsterdam
30-04-2005, 09:12
OoC: Just a bit of a security heads-up, Dumpsterdam does not posses tactical nuclear weapons, nor does it posses biological or chemical WMD's.

I have only have strategic nuclear weapons, so unless I feel like nuking my entire region I'm not gona sling a WMD at invading fleets.

Oh and NAS, the Royal Merchant Navy considers arming its freighters up to cruiser class fire-power and armour to be standard.

TST, lets stop spamming ^_^.

IC:

Ah yes, Farmina, one's true allies do show their faces do they not? Not unlike the cowardly dogs of Credonia, condeming our foreign policy while theirs is flawed also.

But none the matter, we will stand by our current statements, the waters and any unclaimed islands in the Damnian region belong to the Empire.

Dan Reranderas,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Finance.
Vastiva
30-04-2005, 09:20
OOC: You realize you're going to put my poor General in therapy as this is the second time in as many days we agree? :eek:

IC:

Official Vastivan Response

No comment.
Dumpsterdam
30-04-2005, 09:24
OOC: You realize you're going to put my poor General in therapy as this is the second time in as many days we agree? :eek:

IC:

Official Vastivan Response

No comment.

OoC: Hm, people might start to talk....

>.>

<.<

>.<

We must kill them all, you have any vic..uhm, targets yet?
ScorpionLand666
30-04-2005, 09:52
I have prepared two of my naval fleets for launch, the 4th and 13th fleets.
Each fleet consists of one carrier each, three crusiers each, six destroyers each, four attack subs each, and two missile subs each.
I have set them on route to the affected region.
If you give the word they will enter the affected waters in an aid to protect your sovergien seas, If not I shall turn them back.
Awaiting your response

Ministry of Defence
ScorpionLand
Aust
30-04-2005, 09:52
Aust would support this action and do like wise, if we had any terratorial waters to speak of, after all you can't call a 10 mile wide streach of water terratorial can you, anyway any one who enters those waters with warships, that do not have our permission wille be destroyed by the home fleet. Yes, we will use our old wooden battleships on you, a well aimed cannonball can do a lot of damage.

Or maybe we'll just use the 3rd fleet, or some of our aircraft...anyway, now that warnings out of the way lets get down to buisness....welcome back to the international areana Dumpsterdam.
Emporer William
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:27
Bump
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 22:31
As of midnight today, the Empire will be extending its territorial waters to a hundred nautical miles to ensure security of the region.

Coupled with this will be a policy where any fleet entering the one hundred mile line without Royal Navy consent will be fired upon; the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in such attacks will not be shunned.

The nations of Endenia and Calpe now fall within territorial waters of the Empire and the Grand Armada will be dispatched to ensure the security in those waters surrounding them.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: Come on you bastards, lets see how you respond to this, a good a reason as ever to get out of hybernation mode.

AMF, if your reading this, I'll be on AIM the entire night so hopefully see you there.

OOC: will you RP with non-humans, if so I'll hop in.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 22:32
Aust would support this action and do like wise, if we had any terratorial waters to speak of, after all you can't call a 10 mile wide streach of water terratorial can you, anyway any one who enters those waters with warships, that do not have our permission wille be destroyed by the home fleet. Yes, we will use our old wooden battleships on you, a well aimed cannonball can do a lot of damage.

Or maybe we'll just use the 3rd fleet, or some of our aircraft...anyway, now that warnings out of the way lets get down to buisness....welcome back to the international areana Dumpsterdam.
Emporer William

OOC: hey aust I don't have any warships, will my entering the waters count as reason for destruction? :p
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:35
OOC: will you RP with non-humans, if so I'll hop in.

OoC: Depends on what you mean by that, explain what race and if it uses magic or not or has some sort of invincible bulletshield. ;)
Mekugi
06-05-2005, 22:37
-Offical Reply of the Republic-
We see no reason that this would effect us, and therefore have no issues whatso ever with such a decree. Furthermore we would like to congradulate the Empire of Dumpsterdam on secureing not only their territorial waters but in a sense opening up a further protected area for merchants who wish to avoid any such possible piracy or harm from those who would wish to impose on free trade in international waters.

If only other nations took such measures the seas would most likely be a much safer place for trade.

Sincerely,
Eliza Meraz
Ministery of Foriegn Affiars,
Democratic Peoples Republic of Mekugi.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 22:39
OoC: Depends on what you mean by that, explain what race and if it uses magic or not or has some sort of invincible bulletshield. ;)

OOC: slivers, heres what they can do http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8812927&postcount=3 A sliver is approximately 6 feet tall and looks like a snake and an insect of some sort crossed, they are not humanoid, they have no transportation or training issues, they have no equipmen at all, they have no control issues due to the hive mind that controls all of them(kinda like the zerg from starcraft) and they're very very tough to kill, not impossible but a M-16 isn't gonna penetrate their carapace under the influence of a plated sliver.
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:41
-Offical Reply of the Republic-
We see no reason that this would effect us, and therefore have no issues whatso ever with such a decree. Furthermore we would like to congradulate the Empire of Dumpsterdam on secureing not only their territorial waters but in a sense opening up a further protected area for merchants who wish to avoid any such possible piracy or harm from those who would wish to impose on free trade in international waters.

If only other nations took such measures the seas would most likely be a much safer place for trade.

Sincerely,
Eliza Meraz
Ministery of Foriegn Affiars,
Democratic Peoples Republic of Mekugi.


The Empire is glad that, in this madness that is today's world there are still nations that see the reasoning and logic behind our steps.

Not only do the agressor nations fail to see the reasoning, they also fail the see what this is all about, this is our region, these waters have belonged to the Empire since its formation and only now do we see the need to consolidate our hold upon them.

Our thanks to Eliza Mraz and the Republic of Mekugi, your ships will be welcome in all ports under the controll of the Empire.

Dan Reranderas,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Finance.
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:44
OOC: slivers, heres what they can do http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8812927&postcount=3 A sliver is approximately 6 feet tall and looks like a snake and an insect of some sort crossed, they are not humanoid, they have no transportation or training issues, they have no equipmen at all, they have no control issues due to the hive mind that controls all of them(kinda like the zerg from starcraft) and they're very very tough to kill, not impossible but a M-16 isn't gonna penetrate their carapace under the influence of a plated sliver.

OoC: No thanks, I'll pass, I know where this will end.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 22:48
OoC: No thanks, I'll pass, I know where this will end.

OOC: and where is that?(just outta curiousity)
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:50
OOC: and where is that?(just outta curiousity)

OoC: Ignores from my side, I'd like to keep ahead of that and rather just not RP with you.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 22:52
OoC: Ignores from my side, I'd like to keep ahead of that and rather just not RP with you.

OOC: that's reasonable, I'll just watch then.
Dumpsterdam
06-05-2005, 22:59
OOC: that's reasonable, I'll just watch then.

OoC: Meh, not like much is gona happen anyway, half the nations around are either to scared to fuck with me or don't care.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 23:04
OoC: Meh, not like much is gona happen anyway, half the nations around are either to scared to fuck with me or don't care.
OOC: yeah, I was actually willing to do it but, hey that's the way the cookie crumbles... My reason is cause my national leader has this thing about nations s\he\it sees as expansionistic, and s\he\it would view the expansion of your territorial waters as just the first step towards empire, a really big no-no where the queen is concerned(yes I know it says queen but I'm honestly not sure of the gender involved, since s\he\it seems to be the only gendered sliver)
Riconiaa
06-05-2005, 23:08
As of midnight today, the Empire will be extending its territorial waters to a hundred nautical miles to ensure security of the region.

Coupled with this will be a policy where any fleet entering the one hundred mile line without Royal Navy consent will be fired upon; the use of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons in such attacks will not be shunned.

The nations of Endenia and Calpe now fall within territorial waters of the Empire and the Grand Armada will be dispatched to ensure the security in those waters surrounding them.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: Come on you bastards, lets see how you respond to this, a good a reason as ever to get out of hybernation mode.

AMF, if your reading this, I'll be on AIM the entire night so hopefully see you there.


OOC: Ok, why are all of the nations of the world suddenly becoming so hostile?! I notice the FC made the same STUPID mistake, several nations are trying to beat up on CTP and now this!?

IC: Anyway, the newest, (and smallest) fleet of the Riconiaan navy, the 3rd Battleship Group, is being deployed (for the first time) to make sure our own Riconiaan merchant ships don't wander in on your "100nm" territorial waters, and to make sure other nations' merchant ships don't enter this dangerous area. BTW: The 3rd battleship group consists of 4x Iowa class Battleships, 2x Destroyers, 3x attack subs, and 1x missle sub.

This fleet will only be in the area for two days to make sure that Riconiaan merchant vessels know the bounderies. This fleet posses NO threat whatsoever to Dumsterdam or it's allies.
Mini Miehm
06-05-2005, 23:10
OOC: Ok, why are all of the nations of the world suddenly becoming so hostile?! I notice the FC made the same STUPID mistake, several nations are trying to beat up on CTP and now this!?

IC: Anyway, the newest, (and smallest) fleet of the Riconiaan navy, the 3rd Battleship Group, is being deployed (for the first time) to make sure our own Riconiaan merchant ships don't wander in on your "100nm" territorial waters, and to make sure other nations' merchant ships don't enter this dangerous area.

He's doing it to show how stupid everyone's being about the whole FC thing.
Mekugi
06-05-2005, 23:16
OOC: Ok, why are all of the nations of the world suddenly becoming so hostile?! I notice the FC made the same STUPID mistake, several nations are trying to beat up on CTP and now this!?

IC: Anyway, the newest, (and smallest) fleet of the Riconiaan navy, the 3rd Battleship Group, is being deployed (for the first time) to make sure our own Riconiaan merchant ships don't wander in on your "100nm" territorial waters, and to make sure other nations' merchant ships don't enter this dangerous area.((OOC: you do realize hes only warned against FLEETS entering his waters, not merchant vessels in any way, what you just stated there was a statement that you intend to blockade his waters and prevent any foriegn trade from entering hsi waters... which is something Im not exactly fond of. The only reason im not IC making a statement agaianst this is I dont beleive you meant it that way, but if you did I will respond IC.))
Riconiaa
06-05-2005, 23:19
((OOC: you do realize hes only warned against FLEETS entering his waters, not merchant vessels in any way, what you just stated there was a statement that you intend to blockade his waters and prevent any foriegn trade from entering hsi waters... which is something Im not exactly fond of. The only reason im not IC making a statement agaianst this is I dont beleive you meant it that way, but if you did I will respond IC.))

No, I mean it in a peacefull manor. The fleet will only be there 2 days, and then turn back to San Juan Naval Base where you hopefully won't see it again.
Mekugi
06-05-2005, 23:22
((OOC: Yes I noticed the edit...))
Dumpsterdam
07-05-2005, 09:22
Fine, just stay out of the region, don't come into either ours or the waters controlled by our allies and nothing will happen.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Northern Fleet.

OoC: "4x Iowa class Battleships, 2x Destroyers, 3x attack subs, and 1x missle sub."

Uhm, don't want to break it to you, but you have a serious lack of escorts, so if I did decide to attack you your battleships would be sitting ducks without a decent ASW and AA picketline to pick out my subs and aircraft before they get into firing range.
Riconiaa
07-05-2005, 09:27
Well, maybe I did that on purpose so you woulden't think I was a threat.

OOC: Anyway, I noticed this with all of my (3x) fleets. What ships would be classified as escorts and where could I get them?
Iuthia
07-05-2005, 12:55
Well, maybe I did that on purpose so you woulden't think I was a threat.
OOC: Given the lack of any indication as to the IC/OOC nature of this comment I'm going to reply to it as though you meant it in character.

We are surprised at the ignorance of Riconiaa's government who are claiming that their fleet of military vessels pose no threat to Dumpsterstan interests regardless of the fact that these vessels are of a military nature and intend to "make sure other nations' merchant ships don't enter this dangerous area", suggesting the possibility of a blockade of some sort.

It is hard to beleive that a fleet which is packing four Iowa Battleships is intending to arrive close to the Dumpsterstan waters just to turn around and head back after arriving... that such a ship heavy fleet is of not threat to Dumpsterstan merchants.

The poor constuction of the fleet itself suggests that their mission isn't to be a prolonged mission as any reasonable naval force could take advantage of the lack of proper escorts around such valuable ships... however the fact there are so many large military ships easily provides a threat to non-military Dumpsterstan vessels and Dumpsterstan economic interests.

Eitherway, Iuthia conciders these actions wasteful at best, and foolishly dangerous at worse. We would advise that you scrap you're plans to "peacefully" turn ships around with a fleet of four battleships.

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Dumpsterdam
07-05-2005, 16:34
We, as the Iuthian goverment most probably has done the same, rummaged around our intell files concerning Riconiaa.

Their fleet, although capital ship strong, posses no threat to either coastal regions nor shipping as the Northern Fleet is keeping a tight watch on them.
Due to the fact that you seem to like a NATO aproach to these kind of conflicts we will kindly ask the Riconiaans to withdraw their fleet once again, we would be very hesitant to destroy them should they make a foolish mistake.

That, and we would like to point out to the Iuthians, that the Empire's name, has and always will be written in this form: Dumpsterdam.

Enclosed in this package is a program called WORD, we suggest you use it.

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

OoC:
Anyway, I noticed this with all of my (3x) fleets. What ships would be classified as escorts and where could I get them?

Destroyers, frigattes and to lesser extend, cruisers are all escorts classes, one more effective then the other but you'll have to figure that out by yourself. I know several realy good storefronts, but unfortunatly, none of them(Portland Ironworks; Sarzonia)(Imperial Praetonian Shipyards; Praetonia)(???; Isselmere, sorry forgot the name)(Royal Tallarnian Dockyards; Dumpsterdam) will sell to you, because A) the FC conflict and B) your acting rather agressivly against me.