NationStates Jolt Archive


Seeking Foreign Military Advisors to Assist in Restructuring of Army and Navy

Geisenfried
28-04-2005, 03:31
Royal Statement to Foreign Nations

Currently, our nation has begun a complete restructure of the entirety of our military forces. To help maximize our success, we've decided to formally ask other nations to send military advisors to assist us in our restructuring. We have already completed the reordering of the air force, but reordering of the army and navy is a much more daunting task, and both the Parliament and myself have agreed that we will need foreign help to do so. While we do not like the idea of divulging our military information, we find it necessary to do so. If we are not successful in our reorganization of our military, then it will be obsolete. And what we want least of all is to have an obsolete military.

King Alexander I, Constitutional Monarch of Geisenfried

OOC: When going back and looking at my military, I noticed that I need to overhaul and upgrade it, as my defense budget had tripled from when I had last seen it. While I know aircraft very well, I don't have that great of a knowledge when it comes to the army and navy.
In this restructuring, the only thing I'm making sure I keep is my Nimitz. Everything else is up in the air in whether I keep it or scrap it. I need everything and anything on building an army and navy from scrap, plus somewhere to buy these things from. So... please, help.
Geisenfried
28-04-2005, 03:52
Bump
Roman Greece
28-04-2005, 04:02
I can send a advisor if you want.
Generic empire
28-04-2005, 04:04
Official Imperial Communique

To: Director of Geisenfried Armed Forces
From: General Lew Ny'sky

The Empire is willing to equip the entirety of your armed force with Doomingsland designed, Generian produced M-27 assault rifles. These are generally agreed to be of the highest quality in technological edge and functionability. Sporting a bullpup design and compatible with both 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm ammunition, the rifle is 30 inches long and weighs only five lbs. For a single lump sum of 800 million dollars, the Empire will sell you an initial shipment of 1 million of the rifles, and will throw in production rights for just an additional 1 billion dollars. You won't get a better deal on such high quality merchandise anywhere else.
Geisenfried
28-04-2005, 04:06
OOC: Erm... I probably should have said this earlier, but please add as much IC as possible. Thanks.
Sarzonia
28-04-2005, 04:14
IC: The Incorporated Sarzonian Navy would be interested in sending our now-retired Admiral of the Navy, Marcus Patinkin, to outline a plan for organising your naval forces. He has been the uniformed mastermind behind the ISN's ascension to one of the finest navies in the world.

OOC: I'm not sure who you count as IC allies or I'd be more detailed, but you can ask me questions OOCly or look at the naval strategy thread Praetonia and I created for some guidelines.
Ollieland
28-04-2005, 12:46
Following our own strategic defence review, we would be more than happy to send officers form the Colonial Navy, the Colonial Marine Corps and the Army to advise and assist you.
Kaledan
28-04-2005, 12:59
800 bucks for a bull-pup rifle in a poodle-shooter caliber? Keep dreaming. Having been to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kosovo, I would not recommend that punt varmint caliber to ANY military. Don't equip your forces with anything less than 6.8 Grendel. The 7.62x51 is a great round, but be wary of bullpups. They are not all that they are advertised to be.
As my country is poor, and our military is more of a miliia, we purchased a bunch of FN/FAL's for our guys, in the normal SLR configuration, and also in the HB support version and accurized Unit Marksman version.
Generic empire
28-04-2005, 19:57
800 bucks for a bull-pup rifle in a poodle-shooter caliber? Keep dreaming. Having been to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kosovo, I would not recommend that punt varmint caliber to ANY military. Don't equip your forces with anything less than 6.8 Grendel. The 7.62x51 is a great round, but be wary of bullpups. They are not all that they are advertised to be.
As my country is poor, and our military is more of a miliia, we purchased a bunch of FN/FAL's for our guys, in the normal SLR configuration, and also in the HB support version and accurized Unit Marksman version.

Official Imperial Statement

Keep talking trash, and you might end up on the wrong end of an Imperial invasion, punk.
Isselmere
28-04-2005, 20:04
800 bucks for a bull-pup rifle in a poodle-shooter caliber? Keep dreaming. Having been to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Kosovo, I would not recommend that punt varmint caliber to ANY military. Don't equip your forces with anything less than 6.8 Grendel. The 7.62x51 is a great round, but be wary of bullpups. They are not all that they are advertised to be.
As my country is poor, and our military is more of a miliia, we purchased a bunch of FN/FAL's for our guys, in the normal SLR configuration, and also in the HB support version and accurized Unit Marksman version.
OOC: The Grendel is 6.5 x 39mm. The SPC is 6.8 x 43mm. Bullpups have their place in modern warfare as they have a decent-sized barrel for a shorter overall length, thus are perfect for mechanised, airborne/parachute, and heliborne forces, as well as urban warfare so long as they are designed for ambidextrous shooting.
Greater Valia
28-04-2005, 20:10
Might I suggest the FN FAL? Good caliber, dependable, and has been in service for a quite a while.
Geisenfried
28-04-2005, 23:42
To the Generic Empire:

From the Desk of the King
While we fully appreciate the offer of the Generic Empire, we must respectfully decline it, for an old ally of ours has notified us and gave us an offer in wider range of armaments at a highly reduced cost, which we accepted. However... if you happen to have any offer on army vehicles, we are currently in the market.
Respectfully,
King Alexander I

To Sarzonia:

From the Desk of the King
We appreciate the assistance of Admiral Patinkin. Hopefully, he can assist us in maintaining an excellent naval force.
Respectfully,
King Alexander I

OOC to Sarzonia: I don't really have too many allies right now. Feel free to talk OOC, I really just wanted an IC introduction. As for the strategy thread, that was part of the reason I reorganized, because I was relying too much on battleships and not on some of the smaller craft.

To Ollieland:
From the Desk of the King
We appreciate any assistance your nation can give us. Thank you.
Respectfully,
King Alexander I
Geisenfried
29-04-2005, 01:02
Bump
Geisenfried
29-04-2005, 02:31
Due to incidents relating to Feline Catfish, we have deemed it critical that this reorganization take place ASAP.
Kaledan
29-04-2005, 02:37
Bullpups suffer from a VERY long trigger mechanism, and having the action right underneath the shooters face. Most seem to be ironed out, but.... who really knows? The Brits sorely miss thier old L1A1 SLR (Fn/FAL) especially with the longer ranges often encountered. The FAMAS does seem to get great reviews, so if you HAVE to go bullpup, it may be a decent option. Again, crappy caliber, unless you like shooting groundhogs!
My bad about 6.8 v. 6.5.
If you invade, our people shall spill the blood of the Infidel by the barrell! Plus, we don't have alot of wealth for you to take if you did decide to invade, so it would not be worth your time. :-)
Geisenfried
29-04-2005, 02:41
I've already gotten an offer via telegram. It was a huge amount of arms... sniper rifles, bazookas, assault rifles, pistols... for a pretty low cost from an ally. I took it, so I shouldn't have infantry problems.

I don't plan on invading you, I'm looking at Feline Catfish, who is completely ignoring international law.
Isselmere
29-04-2005, 03:20
Bullpups suffer from a VERY long trigger mechanism, and having the action right underneath the shooters face. Most seem to be ironed out, but.... who really knows? The Brits sorely miss thier old L1A1 SLR (Fn/FAL) especially with the longer ranges often encountered. The FAMAS does seem to get great reviews, so if you HAVE to go bullpup, it may be a decent option. Again, crappy caliber, unless you like shooting groundhogs!
My bad about 6.8 v. 6.5.
If you invade, our people shall spill the blood of the Infidel by the barrell! Plus, we don't have alot of wealth for you to take if you did decide to invade, so it would not be worth your time. :-)
The FAMAS, at least the F1 variant, was terrible. I've no idea about the G2 variant. The L85 was terrible initially, but the L85A2 is supposed to be infinitely better. The Steyr AUG, however, is a very good service rifle and several nations are switching to the bullpup for the reasons I listed.