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If you have not answered the questions can you please cuz my teacher is cheacking out the post and the more i have the better it looks which means the better the grade
I added a poll so i can find some information too so please take the poll

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the pilots should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

1:No
2:Yes
3:No
4:Yes
5:No
6:No
7:Yes
8:No
9:Yes
10:Yes, and showen all the gory details of there technological achivment

age - 20+
gender - Male
race - whitety
country - Canada

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. Yes
10. Yes
age: 18
gender: male
race: caucasian
country: Canada

1 yes
2 no
3 no
4 yes
5 yes
6 no
7 no
8 yes
9 no
10 yes

age 14
gender male
race british whiteman
country united kingdom


OOC: i would make em all up, (s)he aint gonna know...

c'mon guys! help out it takes 30 sconds!

btw hes naive not retarded...

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

Yes
No
Yes
No
No
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes

Buben,Xeraph
i need your
age
gender
race
country

I have listed it for you in an edit on the post :)

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade
1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes

Age: 15
Gender: Male
Race: Greek (white)
Country: Canada

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. No
9. Yes
10. Yes

21, male, British (white), UK

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? No
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? Yes
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders? No
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? Yes
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? No
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes; but it depends on what you mean. If you mean feed them pity me Nip propaganda then no. If you mean tell them that in excess of a million US soldiers would have perished storming the beaches of Nippon then yes they should learn about it.

Gender: Male
Age: old enough
Race: Mix
Nation: United States

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes and No
age: 20ish
gender: External Plumbing
race: Great American Whitey
country: United States of America (and a member of the military)

1. No (the loss of civilian lives is never justified)
2. Yes (tricky question: in my eyes Japan had to be blocked => few resources and ways to gain them => force them to surrender, btw Japan was negotiating with Russia for a unconditional surrender =>landing unnecessary)
3. No (USA would've done the same in a reversed situation)
4. Yes (they knew its destructive power and murdered citizens with it while Japan was nothing more 4 militiamen and half a destroyer so to speak)
5. No (see 1.)
6. No (more civilian casualties, less result => public anger)
7. No (they would've been court marshalled and others would've been sent)
8. No
9. No (Japan had no more navy anymore: pointless)
10. Yes


Age: 20
Gender: Male
Race: white
Country: Belgium

1. Yes
2. No
3. Yes
4. No
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

Age: 14
Gender: Male
Race: White as a sheet
Country: The US of A

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1. Vague. Back then yes, now no.
2. No. Too many deaths.
3. No.
4. No.
5. Yes.
6. No.
7. No.
8. No.
9. No. Name one that wasn't plastered by the end of the war.
10. indeed.

Age: 15
Race: Fah...European/Native American
Country: USA

1 Yes
2 No
3 No
4 No
5 Yes
6 No
7 No
8 Yes
9 No
10 Yes, as long as they are also taught about the alternative, ie an invasion costing the lives if hundreds of thousands of allied servicemen + japanese

Male, 19, White and English

1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes

age: 47
gender: male
race: caucasian
country: United States

1: Yes - But in only dire circumstances.
2: Yes
3: No
4: Yes
5: No - Populated cities with harmless civilians???
6: No
7: Yes
8: No
9: Yes - But as the final thing they could do.
10: Yes

Age: 15
Race: White
Gender: Male
Home Nation: USA

By the way, I'd say a lot of the answers here indicate that number 10 should be HELL yes, rather than a simple yes. Repeating the disproven canard about how many deaths would result from invasion when the Japanese forces were, for the most part, already defeated and their rulers were looking for a way out shows that education is sorely lacking here. The real target for the dropping of the bomb was the U.S.S.R., and was indeed the first shot fired in the cold war. I think a better target could have been chosen, but in the grand scheme of things, nation-wise, a target had to be found and used.

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes

age-17
gender-male
race-white
country-United Kingdom

age-15
gender-male
race-white
country- US

1. no
2. no -may seeem contradictory, but bombs are over 100 times stronger now, and use today would cause nuclear war and the end of humanity
3. yes
4. no
5. yes
6. no
7. no
8. no (many didn't, and became avid anti-nuclear advocates)
9. no
10. YES

By the way, I'd say a lot of the answers here indicate that number 10 should be HELL yes, rather than a simple yes. Repeating the disproven canard about how many deaths would result from invasion when the Japanese forces were, for the most part, already defeated and their rulers were looking for a way out shows that education is sorely lacking here. The real target for the dropping of the bomb was the U.S.S.R., and was indeed the first shot fired in the cold war. I think a better target could have been chosen, but in the grand scheme of things, nation-wise, a target had to be found and used.

My ass. The tenacious defense of Okinawa should be enough proof that a invasion would have been disastorous for both sides. Not to mention the fact that the military command did not want to surrender even after Nagasaki.

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?


1. No (It was a bastard child of science and war, it shouldn't of being allowed to see the light of day)
2. Yes (Soldiers fighting is better than civilians being murdered)
3. No (Why was it their fault?)
4. Yes (It was their choice and they knew the murder they were committing)
5. No (God no, they should've chosen some countryside to demonstrate the power without the death)
6. No (Why should more civilians being butchered?)
7. Yes (But they would have been severely punished and it would've happened anyway)
8. No (It was a horrific device)
9. Yes (Definitely, a military target is far more acceptable)
10. Yes (They need to learn about the unfair killings committed by the overzealous US military)

age - 14
gender - Male
race - Caucasian
country - United Kingdom (England)

1. No
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. No
6. No
7. Yes
8. Yes
9. Yes
10. Yes


age - 23
gender - Male
race - Caucasian
country - Romania

10. Yes (They need to learn about the unfair killings committed by the overzealous US military)

Overzealous? We'll talk about overzealous. Have you ever heard of the rape of Nanking(Nanjing)? Three hundred thousand Chinese civilians killed and twenty thousand women raped. Now lets compare to the combined force of the two Atom bomb attacks. Nagasaki: 64,000 | Hiroshima:135,000. Now lets do the math, 64,000 + 135,000 = 199,000. Less than what the Japanese Imperial Army did at Nanking(Nanjing). Not a bomb mind you, but Japanese soldiers brutally mudering, raping, and looting a city in a disgusting orgy of death and torture. Now you tell me which one is still worse?

1. No, it should never have been used.
2. Yes if it came to that.
3. Yes and No. They do have some responsibility for starting the war, but I'm more than 80% no on this, so just say no.
4. Yes. America invented, built, piloted and then dropped the A-Bomb. Sounds responsible.
5. No. Attacking civilian population centres is a war crime. Using an A-bomb on a city is one of the worst atrocities possible.
6. No. Again, a civilian population centre.
7. If i had been there I would have. I would have taken that plane into the Pacific before ending millions of civilian lives. I would have given my own life if it came to that.
8. No.
9. That would have been more acceptable, though the Kaigun was pretty much gone by 1945.
10. um... yes?!? The only chance we have now is to learn from history, we cannot change it. I think graphic photos of all the horrors of war should be mandatorially shown to students when they are old enough to handle it. They need to be informed about what going to war really means.

Age - 17 (almost 18)
Gender - male
race - white
country - United States of America. Note if needed I don't truly identify with my country.

Overzealous? We'll talk about overzealous. Have you ever heard of the rape of Nanking(Nanjing)? Three hundred thousand Chinese civilians killed and twenty thousand women raped. Now lets compare to the combined force of the two Atom bomb attacks. Nagasaki: 64,000 | Hiroshima:135,000. now lets do the math, 64,000 + 135,000 = 199,000. Less than what the Japanese Imperial Army did at Nanking(Nanjing). Not a bomb mind you, but Japanese soldiers brutally mudering, raping, and looting a city in a disgusting orgy of death and torture. Now you tell me which one is still worse?

The Japanese army killing alot of people is worse than the US massacres but since when did two wrongs make a right? Look at the treaty of versailles...

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

1 Yes, It had the lowest statistical quotes for deaths for both sides.
2 No, (see #1)
3 Yes, They were stubborn, and didn't see that they could've cut their losses.
4 Yes, Take responsibility.
5 Yes, Those targets were important to the Japanese war machine.
6 No, (see #5)
7 Yes, but still, they'll be courtmartialed, and the bombs will still be dropped.
8 Yes, either the Americans or the Germans were going to build it.
9 Yes, but still, taking out the economical structures, the naval base will eventually falter.
10 Yes, That which we do not learn, we are condemned to repeat.

AGE: 22
GENDER: Male
RACE: Caucasian
COUNTRY: United States

The Japanese army killing alot of people is worse than the US massacres but since when did two wrongs make a right? Look at the treaty of versailles...

But you said some pretty disparaging things about the US military whichI find disturbing in that you would overlook all of the things the Japanese had done just for an Atomic attack. I find this interesting that you would say this since in one of the death marches the Japanese sent their POWs on 100% of British prisoners died and only 3 out of more than 150 Austrailians perished. And might I ask where you got your information on this "overzealous" killing supposedly committed by US forces?

EDIT: Im curious, tell me about these masacres committed by US troops. I need dates and places.

1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4.No
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

AGE: 16
GENDER: Male
RACE: Persian
COUNTRY: United States

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

1. Yes
2. No (millions would have died in a US invasion of Japan)
3. No (not entirely... US may have been in the war anyway by that time, with or without Pearl Harbor)
4. No (imagine if Germany had figured it out first... we had to beat them to it)
5. Yes (enough to show its power... imagine the destruction if they'd chosen tokyo)
6. No
7. No, hell no
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes (why it was used, and that it was justified)

AGE: 29
RACE: Caucasian
Gender: Male
Country: United States

But you said some pretty disparaging things about the US military whichI find disturbing in that you would overlook all of the things the Japanese had done just for an Atomic attack. I find this interesting that you would say this since in one of the death marches the Japanese sent their POWs on 100% of British prisoners died and only 3 out of more than 150 Austrailians perished. And might I ask where you got your information on this "overzealous" killing supposedly committed by US forces?

EDIT: Im curious, tell me about these masacres committed by US troops. I need dates and places.

I never stated the Japanese military was nice in the least, but the aforementioned deathmarches were forced upon English and Aussie soldiers, not civilians. I was referring to the brutal use of nuclear warfare.

And when did I "overlook" anything, I acknowledge the Japanese warmachine had a very cruel edge but returning to my former point: two wrongs don't make a right.

EDIT: Im curious, tell me about these masacres committed by US troops. I need dates and places.

Dates - August 6 and August 9, 1945
Places - Hiroshima and Nagasaki

[QUOTE=The Mormon Church]ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country.

Here's my ansewer:

here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?No.
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? No.
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No.
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No.
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? No.
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No.
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders? Yes. (or maybe, depending on how they disobeyed said orders).
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? No.
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? Yes.
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes.


Age: 13
Gender: Male
Country: USA

1. No: Nuclear weapons should only be used for deterrence, if then.
2. No: The Japanese were in the process of surrender talks. A "seige," if you will, granting them time, would probably have led to a peaceful resolution.
3. No: What did the citizens of Japan do to prompt the attack?
4. No: If the blame lies on anyone, it's Truman and his advisors.
5. No: There shouldn't have been targets in the first place.
6. No: It was bombed. Firebombed. It was vicious and brutal.
7. Yes: "I was just following orders" didn't stand up at Nuremberg. Why should it exhonerate the American pilots?
8. Yes: Research, sure. That lead to nuclear energy.
9. No: What good would that have done?
10. Yes: Everyone needs to hear both sides of the story. People who believe that it would have cost over a million US soldiers to invade Japan need to know the truth, especially. Watch the Peter Jennings special, "Hiroshima." It's quite enlightening.

19, Male, Caucasian, USA.

1. no
2. no, I would have liberated everyone/thing they conquored, and sent them a message that we'd paste them if they so much as sneezed wrong again.
3. no
4. yes
5. no
6. no
7. eh, they did their duties. That's all that's ever asked of a soldier, and they preformed admirally. They hold no blame in this instance.
8. no
9. The atomic bomb should never have been dropped. If it had to be, then drop it on a large, strictly counter-force target, and leave it at that.
10. yes, the past should never be repeated

age - <20
gender - male
race - white
country - US

Despite the politics of my nation, I hate war.

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes! what many people who say no on this question don't know is that at the time Japanese cultue was completeobeisance to their 'God Emperor' who was nothing more than a figure head of wealthy lords obsessed with concepts of personal honor and honorable death, this wasn't simply japanese citzens being forced into the same views and beliefs, they loved the god Emperor, had he even implied that he wished it mildly they would gladly have slain their entire family fo him and because of the Nipponese views of honorable death the entire populaion of Japan would have faught to the death against any American invasion, estimates taken at the time say that th death toll of an invasion would have been a few million, American soldiers Japanese soldiers and Japanese civilians. In retrospect, after gaining a better knowledge of Nipponese culture, the most likely out come would be several million american soldies dead and the complete anihilation of the Nipponese populace. In an invasion of Japan there would have been no such thing as a 'harmless civilian' evry man woman and child rgardless of age, sex or health would have taken up arms against an american invasion to preserve their personal honor and that of their country
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? HELL NO!!!!!
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? no
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? no
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? yes
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? no if tokyo had been bombed, the God Emperor of Japan would have been killed, without his timely surrender the powerful lords that controlled him and thefor the entire nation would have forced Japan into a self destructive war even more brutal than the one they had already engaged in, with the Emperor dead, they would have simply elevated another stooge tot he Emperors throne and the war would have continued.
7. Do you feel the pilots (fixed a spelling error) should have disobeyed their orders? No
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? no; The creators (there was more than one) had no idea what the Atomic bomb would do wen they detonated it, some even belived that it would start a chain reaction that would destroy life on earth as we know it.
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? no, that would have been useless, America already controlled the sea.
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes, People need to learn the real story and the real results if the Bomb had not been dropped.

Age: 19
Sex; Male
Race; other
Location; Texas!

Overzealous? We'll talk about overzealous. Have you ever heard of the rape of Nanking(Nanjing)? Three hundred thousand Chinese civilians killed and twenty thousand women raped. Now lets compare to the combined force of the two Atom bomb attacks. Nagasaki: 64,000 | Hiroshima:135,000. Now lets do the math, 64,000 + 135,000 = 199,000. Less than what the Japanese Imperial Army did at Nanking(Nanjing). Not a bomb mind you, but Japanese soldiers brutally mudering, raping, and looting a city in a disgusting orgy of death and torture. Now you tell me which one is still worse?

The actions of one do not validate the actions of another. If my friend killstwo girls, and I kill one, am I better than him? No, we're both dirty murderers, and will probably get the death sentance. Now, let's turn that into if I push a button and wipe out two cities, and my enemy pushes a button and wipes out many more people than I do, then are either of us right?

NO! We are never in the right! Killing innocent NCs and Civies is not the way to fight a war! You kill your enemy, not his wife, child, dog, and neighbor. Killing one innocent is one too many, regardless of the method or reasons.

The actions of one do not validate the actions of another. If my friend killstwo girls, and I kill one, am I better than him? No, we're both dirty murderers, and will probably get the death sentance. Now, let's turn that into if I push a button and wipe out two cities, and my enemy pushes a button and wipes out many more people than I do, then are either of us right?

NO! We are never in the right! Killing innocent NCs and Civies is not the way to fight a war! You kill your enemy, not his wife, child, dog, and neighbor. Killing one innocent is one too many, regardless of the method or reasons.

But if your friend kills two girls and I kill him then I am completely justified, the actions of your friend validated my actions against him, turn about being fair play and all that good stuff.

But if your friend kills two girls and I kill him then I am completely justified, the actions of your friend validated my actions against him, turn about being fair play and all that good stuff.

You've just become what you killed - nice job. You are nothing more than a murderer who took the law into his own hands when he should've let the police handle it.

You've just become what you killed - nice job. You are nothing more than a murderer who took the law into his own hands when he should've let the police handle it.

Aye. There's this little thing called Karma that inevitably comes around...

You've just become what you killed - nice job. You are nothing more than a murderer who took the law into his own hands when he should've let the police handle it.

Nope, good samaritin laws, I'm a person protecting others who I thought were either in imminent danger of harm or that I had witnessed being harmed, my killng was legal, it falls under self defense, your friends were not, it falls murder. My killing is justifiable homicide, not a crime.

Nope, good samaritin laws, I'm a person protecting others who I thought were either in imminent danger of harm or that I had witnessed being harmed, my killng was legal, it falls under self defense, your friends were not, it falls murder. My killing is justifiable homicide, not a crime.

Only if by killing him you directly prevent another killing. If you do it for revenge you are no better than he is.

Dates - August 6 and August 9, 1945
Places - Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Doesnt count. It was an attack by pilots in airplanes and I stated troops.

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1.Yes
1.no
3.No
4.No
5.Yes
6.No
7.No
8.Yes
9.No
10.Yes

Age: 14
Sex: Male
Race: Caucasian
Location: Texas!....Darn.

Nope, good samaritin laws, I'm a person protecting others who I thought were either in imminent danger of harm or that I had witnessed being harmed, my killng was legal, it falls under self defense, your friends were not, it falls murder. My killing is justifiable homicide, not a crime.

That's a disgusting philosophy.

Two tours in Viet Nam ('67-'68, '70-71), alternatively being bored to tears or being scared to death....a totally unhealthy environment.

I was 18 1/2 when I went on my first and cried at night for a while after I killed the first VC. After a while, unfortunately, you either go nuts or get hardened to it. So, I was pretty much screwed up in the head for a long time, not knowing which way I was going.

I don't spend much time pondering the justification for that killing any more....

But,

1. yes
2. no
3. yes
4. no
5. yes
6. no
7. no
8. no
9. no
10. Yes; and the Japanese people need to learn about the Japanese atrocities (iex.: massacre in Nanking; sexual enslavement of Asian women)


56, male. USA

Only if by killing him you directly prevent another killing. If you do it for revenge you are no better than he is.

How could I not know that he wouldn't kill me, since I've already seen him kill two unarmed girls, whats to stop him from shoting me dead? Only way to prevent that is disarming him, which is impractical and a risk to my health, or killing him, which is practical and eliminates any further killings he may have comitted, thus reducing further loss of life, justifiable homicide.

It doesn't matter, your working in an entirely different context. The Nipponese culture during WW2 was such that if America had invaded then every Japanese citizen would have fought to the death against them, that was Nipponese culture at the time. A better comparison would be of a murderer living alone in a forest inhabitied by ferocious man eating beasts. In order for the law to get to that man to bring him to justice they would have to kill the man eating beasts

10. Yes; and the Japanese people need to learn about the Japanese atrocities (iex.: massacre in Nanking; sexual enslavement of Asian women) Dont forget the medical and disease warfare experimentation on Chinese civilians.

That's a disgusting philosophy.

No thats the law, and a good one that has reduced crime a good bit, but this is off topic, so I'm going to stop discussing it.

wow i didn't know that this would be such a success i thank you and i am glad this has brought a disscussion on the topic

Doesnt count. It was an attack by pilots in airplanes and I stated troops.

100 000 dead outright and a legacy of cancer 'doesn't count'?

Why the hell not?

It's the murder of thousands of civilians for a political point - it's terrorism

No thats the law, and a good one that has reduced crime a good bit, but this is off topic, so I'm going to stop discussing it.
no plz don't stop i think this will do some good in NS a good atomic bomb discussion no matter where it leads

no plz don't stop i think this will do some good in NS a good atomic bomb discussion no matter where it leads

I don't wanna get banned, again, for off-topic posting.

i think it was a military strike just because non military people did die but those non military where helping with the war effort so they died in the factorys

i think it was a military strike just because non military people did die but those non military where helping with the war effort so they died in the factorys

Ok last time, if we're gonna discuss this then put it in general, not II, it belongs in general since we're discussing wether it's right or not.

1.yes
2. both, if i can only answer 1, no
3. yes
4. no
5. yes
6. yes
7. hell no
8. yes
9. also, not instead
10. most people dont know about it, nor do they know much about atomic war in general. i have written several research papers on it.

16
USA
Caucasian Male

100 000 dead outright and a legacy of cancer 'doesn't count'?

Why the hell not?

It's the murder of thousands of civilians for a political point - it's terrorism

Did I stutter? I said troops not pilots. If I wanted to count air raids I would point you in the direction of American firebomb raids on numerous Japanese cities which killed far more people than both Atom* bombs combined. (*Some people think Atomic is the same as nuclear... it isnt. If you're that ignorant go read book about it.) And something else, the two Atom Bomb attacks devastated the cities and gave lots of people nasty cases of rare cancer. But in retrospect, the United States bent over backwards to rebuild both cities, provide top of the line medical care for who was affected and not to mention has been apologizing for it ever since. So what im basically telling you is to start thinking for yourself instead of jumping on the, "omg usa is teh bad lets say all the bad things they've done and call them terrorists". You will not win an argument with me on the history of the events themselves or the events leading up to them so stop trying to bring in irrelvant information on the matter.

And another thing, quit harping on the Atom bomb attacks. Yes they were bad but not nearly as bad as the legacy of horror the Japanese left in China. (this includes canibalism, medical experimentation that puts the Nazi's to shame and countless other attrocities conveniently covered up by the US after the war.)

i think it was a military strike just because non military people did die but those non military where helping with the war effort so they died in the factorys

And the elderly? The children? The pregnant women? The babies?

Think about it carefully and try not to feel sick.

1) No
2) No
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) No
6) No
7) No
8) No
9) Yes
10) Yes

Age- 21
Sex- Male
Race- White
country- USA

Some recommened reading on Hiroshima; Hiroshima by John Hershey(sp?).

Same issue: Assuming that you're the "innocent" combatant, is it justified to kill so horrifically and on such a large scale that the other side surrenders.

Forgetting the niceties of moral justification, assume that you were the decision-maker...what would you have done?

If I'm the decision-maker, the bottom line is that I'll choose to kill a 500,000 of the other guy's civilian population rather than having him kill a 200,000 of my troops in an invasion.

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? Absolutely; it was a pretty convincing proof to the remaining Japanese leadership (which still harboured its fair share of delusions) that they were royally up the creek.

2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? No. Too many casualties. So the Japanese Navy was finished and their airforce gone. I'd point out to you that so were the Kriegsmarine and (to a lesser extent) the Luftwaffe in 1944, from a practical standpoint.

3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Not really; they started the war, but they didn't directly provoke its use.

4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No; they were in a war which they wanted to end quickly, and hey - in case you missed it, war's always been a brutal, dirty business.

5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? Yes; they were both population centres and military basing facilities (and DO NOT pretend otherwise; I know for a fact that the Mutsu, Fuso, Ise and Hyuga (battleships) all spent quite some time in Hiroshima bay).

6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No; had the bomb failed it could have given the Japanese quite the morale boost, and in any case to attack a country's capital is to provoke it to fight as hard as humanly possible. Not that they wouldn't have done so anyway or anything.

7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders? Only if they were prepared to be shot for it. You're in the military, you obey your orders, unless they're completely insane (e.g. "Charge up that muddy hill to wipe out those well-entrenched and well-supported defenders who outnumber us 10:1!").

8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? He was being paid for it, wasn't he? Besides, I don't doubt that someone else could and would have taken up his work.

9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? Given that at that stage the Japanese had about fuve major warships left in operation, all immobile for want of fuel and lacking in crews, there'd not have been much point.

10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Certainly. People must know the facts, so that they may make their own assessment.

Oh, and 17, white, male, British.

Did I stutter? I said troops not pilots. If I wanted to count air raids I would point you in the direction of American firebomb raids on numerous Japanese cities which killed far more people than both Atom* bombs combined. (*Some people think Atomic is the same as nuclear... it isnt. If you're that ignorant go read book about it.) And something else, the two Atom Bomb attacks devastated the cities and gave lots of people nasty cases of rare cancer. But in retrospect, the United States bent over backwards to rebuild both cities, provide top of the line medical care for who was affected and not to mention has been apologizing for it ever since. So what im basically telling you is to start thinking for yourself instead of jumping on the, "omg usa is teh bad lets say all the bad things they've done and call them terrorists". You will not win an argument with me on the history of the events themselves or the events leading up to them so stop trying to bring in irrelvant information on the matter.

And another thing, quit harping on the Atom bomb attacks. Yes they were bad but not nearly as bad as the legacy of horror the Japanese left in China. (this includes canibalism, medical experimentation that puts the Nazi's to shame and countless other attrocities conveniently covered up by the US after the war.)
:)

The actions of one do not validate the actions of another. If my friend killstwo girls, and I kill one, am I better than him? No, we're both dirty murderers, and will probably get the death sentance. Now, let's turn that into if I push a button and wipe out two cities, and my enemy pushes a button and wipes out many more people than I do, then are either of us right?
But if your friend kills two girls and I kill him then I am completely justified, the actions of your friend validated my actions against him, turn about being fair play and all that good stuff.
You've just become what you killed - nice job. You are nothing more than a murderer who took the law into his own hands when he should've let the police handle it.

But what you fail to realize is that Mini Miehm just walked in as the friend of No endorse has killed the second girl, so now No endorse's friend has to kill Mini Miehm as he has seen him kill the girls.
Now Mini Miehm has to defend him self and kill No endorse's friend.
Now he is a hero in every ones eyes he also gets the key to the city, and sells his story to be made into a movie.
Moral of the story eat a Snickers bar and this can happen to you also! :p

Did I stutter? I said troops not pilots. If I wanted to count air raids I would point you in the direction of American firebomb raids on numerous Japanese cities which killed far more people than both Atom* bombs combined. (*Some people think Atomic is the same as nuclear... it isnt. If you're that ignorant go read book about it.) And something else, the two Atom Bomb attacks devastated the cities and gave lots of people nasty cases of rare cancer. But in retrospect, the United States bent over backwards to rebuild both cities, provide top of the line medical care for who was affected and not to mention has been apologizing for it ever since. So what im basically telling you is to start thinking for yourself instead of jumping on the, "omg usa is teh bad lets say all the bad things they've done and call them terrorists". You will not win an argument with me on the history of the events themselves or the events leading up to them so stop trying to bring in irrelvant information on the matter.

And another thing, quit harping on the Atom bomb attacks. Yes they were bad but not nearly as bad as the legacy of horror the Japanese left in China. (this includes canibalism, medical experimentation that puts the Nazi's to shame and countless other attrocities conveniently covered up by the US after the war.)


Just because someone else did something worse does not make an action right. Killing civilians for a politcal goal is the very definition of terrorism.

And yes, the fire bombings (like Dresden) are just as debatable as nuclear bombing.

I don't see what your obsession about pilots/soldiers is based on. Why treat them as different subjects?

Oh, and saying sorry and helping tidy up does not instantly make things all better. People died, innocent people, because of the political choice that was made.

The japanese troops conducted themselves disgustingly and will go down in history for their inhumanity. But that doesn't mean dropping the atomic bombs was right either.

(incidently there are 2 types of nuclear (as in energy from nuclear reactions) - atomic or fission and thermonuclear or fusion. If you are going to patronise get your facts straight.)

Same issue: Assuming that you're the "innocent" combatant, is it justified to kill so horrifically and on such a large scale that the other side surrenders.

Forgetting the niceties of moral justification, assume that you were the decision-maker...what would you have done?

If I'm the decision-maker, the bottom line is that I'll choose to kill a 500,000 of the other guy's civilian population rather than having him kill a 200,000 of my troops in an invasion.


Not to mention the how many divisions of Japanese troops would have thrown themselves into battle. Or the civilians that would have sacraficed themselves in the conflict. Then you have the fact that even if the emperor had surendered after an invasion, would the civlians listen? After all, they're samurai code pushed death even by suicide before surender. With American troops in their country would they listen? The military siezed the Emperor's complex in an attempt to stop the surrender. If USA troops landed, who says they wouldn't take power? But I digress:

1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. yes
6. no
7. no
8. yes
9. no
10. yes

Age: 16
Gender: Male
Race: White/Caucasian
Country: USA

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? No
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes (They were told that a new horrifying weapon would be used if they did not surrender, but they continued on anyway)
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? Yes "As in Europe prior to D-day, the principal measure of success set for strategic air action was the extent to which it would weaken enemy capability and will to resist our amphibious forces at the time of landings. This led, originally, to somewhat greater emphasis on the selection of targets such as aircraft factories, arsenals, electronics plants, oil refineries, and finished military goods, destruction of which could be expected to weaken the capabilities of the Japanese armed forces to resist at the Kyushu beachheads in November 1945, than on the disruption of the more basic elements of Japan's social, economic, and political fabric. Certain of the United States commanders and the representatives of the Survey who were called back from their investigations in Germany in early June 1945 for consultation stated their belief that, by the coordinated impact of blockade and direct air attack, Japan could be forced to surrender without invasion. The controlling opinion, however, was that any estimate of the effects of bombing on the Japanese social fabric and on the political decisions of those in control of Japan was bound to be so uncertain that target selection could safely be made only on the assumption that ground force invasion would be necessary to force capitulation." http://www.anesi.com/ussbs01.htm
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No (It was already almost rubble from the massive fire bombing that killed many times as many as the Atomic Bombings)
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders? No (Assuming the "polits" means "pilots")
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? Yes
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? No "Except for its shore-based Kamikaze airforce and surface and undersea craft adapted for anti-invasion suicide attack, the Japanese Navy had ceased to exist." http://www.anesi.com/ussbs01.htm
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes, but only when all the facts are available. I am sick and tirred of elementary children learning that "two atomic bombs were dropped, killed a hundred-thousand civilians, and left many with health problems." That's not the full story. There was no alturnative, and the invasion that could of killed was not mentioned. "On 1 March 1945, the Japanese decided to send no further supplies to their ground forces outside of the home islands. Except for delaying actions they had been forced to concentrate solely on defense against invasion." http://www.anesi.com/ussbs01.htm That would of given them plenty of time to arranged for a widespread resistance. This resistance would of caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Gender: Male
Age: 14
Race: Eastern European/Polish
Nation: United States of America

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? No
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb? No
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? No
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? No
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders? Yes
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? No
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead? Yes
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes

Gender: Male
Age: 15
Race: Wite
Nation: New Zealand

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1. yes
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. yup. won the war didnt?
6. no
7. no
8. yes
9. no
10. yes

Gender: Male
Age: 16
Race: white
Nation: United States of America


Basically they did a pretty good job in Japan. Sending the Atomic Bomb and not the Marines was a good decision by American. Saved alotta American lives and could've saved more Jap lives with avoiding the entire country become a war zone.

Trekkers

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1 Yes
2 No
3 Yes
4 No
5 don't know enough about the targets, but ... if you mean mil/civ, yes
6 No
7 No
8 Yes
9 Not instead - maybe first, but not instead
10 Yes

Male, 18, Caucasian, US

But what you fail to realize is that Mini Miehm just walked in as the friend of No endorse has killed the second girl, so now No endorse's friend has to kill Mini Miehm as he has seen him kill the girls.
Now Mini Miehm has to defend him self and kill No endorse's friend.
Now he is a hero in every ones eyes he also gets the key to the city, and sells his story to be made into a movie.
Moral of the story eat a Snickers bar and this can happen to you also! :p
Well reasoned.

ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

Age:___
Gender: Male
Race: Caucasion
Country: USA

1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

Under 16, Male, Asian, Canadian of Chinese descent

Please take your atomic bombs back to the USA. We don't need them here in our country. (in an american militairy base).

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1. Yes
2. No, a land invasion could have potentially cost over 1 million American lives (not to mention the higher number of Japanese lives).
3. No
4. No
5. Yes, the military value of both was high enough to weaken Japanese infrastructure adequately in preparation for a land invasion if they didn't surrender
6. No, would have destroyed the government and institutions required for the rapid rebuilding of the nation.
7. No
8. They didn't know what it would do until they tested it. It was all theory. Yes?
9. No, the Japanese government in place would have been able to explain away the bombing too easily (as they did with the first bomb anyway).
10. Yes

Male, 20, Caucasian, US

1. Yes
2. No
3. No
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. No
8. Yes
9. It was. Hiroshima was where the fleet that bombed Pearl Harbor sailed from. Quite ironic, really. If you must know, yes.
10. Yes, as long as it is pointed out that the Atomic Bomb has probably done more for peace than any other weapon.

Male, >20, Irish, Confederate sta....ah, USA

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
- Historicaly, yes, In modern times, no.

2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
-No.
It may not have been nessisary as Japan was starting talks with Sweeden (not Russia as stated earlier, Russia was taking Japanese holdings in China at this time) for a conditional surrender that would allow them to keep thier emporer. However, this is a question that can never fully be answered as to wether this peace deal would have worked, or where it would have led us. Assuming that there was no other way than to invade Japan (this is, the atomic bombs had not forced a surrender) then yes, in place of bombing it completly?

3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
-Yes
They started a war of agression against the United States, furthermore, the Japanese deaths from the atomic bomb attacks were less (200,000-125,000 depending on the source, in the atomic bombings) than the deaths from firebombing (about 300,000 killed, millions severly injured or homeless). The only difference is that the Atomic bombs were masses of people killed by one weapon, rather than masses of people killed by raging fires.

4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
-Yes
As with any conflict, there are possibilities for resolution, it was America's refusal to accept a conditional surrender (that being, the condition for the Japanese to keep the emporer in power) that led to the use of the Atomic bomb.

5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
-Militarily, yes

6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
-As a major facility for manufacture and politics, it should have been bombed to the extent and no more than it was bombed. Dropping an atomic bomb on Tokyo would have been about as effective as dropping it on a baren island within eyesight of the emporer

7. Do you feel the pilots should have disobeyed their orders?
-No, it is a soldier's duty to follow orders, wether thier commander is right or wrong.

8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
-Yes, though there was no one creator of the Atomic Bomb, the Manhatten project was composed of many scientists developing the weapon. Some of the department heads had alms about creating it, but they knew that if they dissented, they would simply be replaced.

9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
-No
The Japanese navy was essentialy vanquished at this point in the war, between Midway, and the Marines landing on Okinawa, Iwo Jima, and the other island chains and holding them, the Japanese no longer had an effective naval fleet. If the Americans belived that the atomic bomb alone would have forced the Japanese to surrender had it been shown off, then they would have invited trusted Japanese officials to watch a test blast and then report to thier superiors. As is, only the calculation of the devistation in lives and utter destruction was enough to force unconditional surrender.

10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?
-Yes, as all history is important, and I'm not just saying this as a history major.

age - 21
gender - Male
race - predominatly western European
country - The United States, near Oak Ridge ironicly enough

What Is it woth you people!!!!

You're trying tofit Nipponese culture circa 1940s into your neat little box marked 'civilized' but they weren't! in the 1940s, if america had invaded instead of dropping the atom bombs, the war wouldn't have been restricted to army against army, troops against troops. the civilians themselves, the 'poor defenseless civilians' that 'weren't part of the war' would have proved themselves otherwise, you state that killing defenseless civilians is just as bad as anything the Nips did during th war but the fact is, if america had invaded those selfsame civilians that you make out to be the victims would have taken up arms and fought to the death, even the children, the elderly, the sick, the orphans, the wives, the sisters the pregnant women, every one of the people you say it was wrong for america to have killed them would not even have paused to think if an emerican soldier was even rumored to be close they would have taken up guns and swords and knives and kitchen cleavers and tree branches and anything that came to hand and would have charged recklessly trying desperately to be the first to kill the american invader or die trying. Thats the truth of Nipponese culture during world war two, you defend them as civilised being but they weren't their technology might have progressed from the time of Shoguns and Samurai but it took a pair of atom bombs to jar their culture loose from serving the God-Emperor unto death and honorable suicide and Death before dishonor and all the cultural decay assosciated with the dark ages of europe

But you said some pretty disparaging things about the US military whichI find disturbing in that you would overlook all of the things the Japanese had done just for an Atomic attack. I find this interesting that you would say this since in one of the death marches the Japanese sent their POWs on 100% of British prisoners died and only 3 out of more than 150 Austrailians perished. And might I ask where you got your information on this "overzealous" killing supposedly committed by US forces?

EDIT: Im curious, tell me about these masacres committed by US troops. I need dates and places.
America caused World War II. America caused the Rape of Nanjing and the deaths of other allied soldiers. Haven't you figured it out yet, it has to be our fault. America = Satan, duh :p

People need to see things in perspective. More people died in one day in the Berlin air raids (which every allied country took part in, UK included) then in both bombs (including radiation problems). Russians lost civilians at the rate of 20,000 per day for five straight years, over 30 million in total (far more than Japan). WW II was a civilian war, so don't bitch about protecting civilians. Northern France was entirely destroyed, and this included homes, farms, fields, and businesses- each one important to a civilian. The city of Stalingrad was held under seige for almost 3 years, almost everyone inside died of starvation. The Germans bomed the civilian villiage of Guernica in the Spanish civil war, sometimes referred to as "the dress rehearsel for WW II". It had no military strategy, it was just a small farming villiage. How come nobody is whining about the poor civilians here? Were they less important, it's not as if fewer died.

It was a true turning point in history, when war turned from army vs. army and truly became country vs. country. The atom bomb was just more of the same.

1. No.
2. No.--in war, you don't play nice if it'll cost you hundreds of thousands of lives.
3. No. They were fighting-would the US give up in that situation?
4. No.
5. No. I realize they were industrial centers, but without them, they were forced to surrender.
6. No. without a leader(s) they can't surrender.
7. No. see number 2
8. Yes. see number 2
9. Not unless it was a HUGE fleet that would have crushed the Japanese forces. If the only option is "Naval Fleet" without specification, I'll say no.
10. Yes.

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I would like to thank you on all your responses it got me a good grade thanx

1) yes
2) would use both
3) yes
4) no
5) no
6) yes
7) no
8) yes
9) no
10) no

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Just because someone else did something worse does not make an action right. Killing civilians for a politcal goal is the very definition of terrorism.

Again, it wasnt a political goal it was a military one. Its not as if the decsion was made to boost support with the voters.

And yes, the fire bombings (like Dresden) are just as debatable as nuclear bombing.

At least we aggree on something. But the fire bomb raids in Nippon were far worse than Europe due to the fact that their buildings/houses were made out of very flamable wood and paper.

Oh, and saying sorry and helping tidy up does not instantly make things all better. People died, innocent people, because of the political choice that was made.

People die in wars... This isnt a new fact. And read below for why Hiroshima was chosen.

It wasnt a political choice it was a military choice. Yes, Truman gave the ok for use of the bomb but Hiroshima was a military target. There was a large garrison of Nipponese soldiers sationed at the exact place where the bomb was dropped.

The japanese troops conducted themselves disgustingly and will go down in history for their inhumanity. But that doesn't mean dropping the atomic bombs was right either.

It won the war and saved lives. It was certainly right in my book.

incidently there are 2 types of nuclear (as in energy from nuclear reactions) - atomic or fission and thermonuclear or fusion. If you are going to patronise get your facts straight.)

My facts are straight. Nuclear weapons as we think of them now are very different from 1940's era A-Bombs

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

1. Yes

2. No

3. No

4. No

5. Yes

6. No

7. No

8. Yes

9. No

10. Yes


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ok i was going to stay out of this but now i will jump in

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enlightened Humanity
Just because someone else did something worse does not make an action right. Killing civilians for a politcal goal is the very definition of terrorism.

if the civilians are making wepons and war matrial does that mean we stand by and let them do that just because they are civilians? NO we win wars because we prevent matrials from getting to the troops. Japanese people (in the time) would not give up for anything so we had to bomb them no matter what civilians would have been lost anyway when we had to invade Japan to make them stop fighting so this is the better of the two. Also if i had the chocie i would of bombed them in Tokyo. I say hit them where it hurts. You have to agree with this statement "War Is Hell Ain't It?". thats my closing

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of dropping the Atomic Bomb? No
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb? Yes
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets? No
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed? No
7. Do you feel the pilots should have disobeyed their orders? No
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do? Yes
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been dropped on a Naval Base instead? Yes
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII? Yes

Now, I ought to go into depth regarding my answers to these questions, particularly as several of my answers are, in my own opinion, rather controversial. But I won't.

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Nationality: Canadian/American

1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?



1. Yes. I think at the time it was justified to use it. And even though Russia and japan may have been talking with each other, the US at the time did not want to allow the spread of communism to Japan.

2.Heck no. The cost in lives alone in an invasion of mainland Japan would have been probably around the 500,000 mark.

3. Yes. Japan's pride caused the US to use the bomb instead of sending in an invasion force.

4. Yes. The US knowingly used the bomb, so they are at fault too.

5. I suppose so.

6. No

7. No. They had little to no idea of how the bomb would work its deadly ways, so I do not think they can be held at fault there.

8. Yes. If the US hadn't made the bomb, the USSR would have and then who knows what might have happened. (Err...;))

9. No.

10. Yes, but they also need to learn about Iwo Jima, the Phillipines, Okinawa (sp?) and all the other invasions that cost thousands of American and Allied lives. Then I think people would not be so negative towards the use of the bomb to end a prolonged conflict.

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8. No. If the US hadn't made the bomb, the USSR would have and then who knows what might have happened.

You're saying "no", which means that you do not think they should of continued research. You sure you meant that? :)

1, Today no, WW2 Japan yes.
2, No, Becayse the Japanesse would fight to the death. and allied loses would have been extremely high.
3, no
4, no, the atomic bomb wasn,t fully understood at the time it was used.
5, Today no, WW2 it seemed to be acceptable to slaughter civilians.
6, no
7, no
8, I think there were many creators of the A-bomb not one, but I think one of them said "I have become the destroyer of worlds" after he saw the test bomb detonation.
9, no
10, yes people need to learn about both sides of the story, the americans were faced with heavy loses in personnel if they invaded main land japan, the japanesse military and populace wouldn't stop fighting because they had a fuedal system, although I blame the russians for the second a-bomd being dropped as they stall a japanesse attemp for peace through russia so they could take more land from the war.

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ok the mormon church has just developed a replaca of the Atomic Bomb used in WWII and would like to ask some questions about when it was used and other facts about it (this is a assignment from my history teacher that i am turning it into a project that i am going to RP) these are all YES or NO questions once you have answered all ten i need ur age, race, gender, and ur country. here is an example of an answer from a person.

1. No
2. Yes
3. No
4. Yes
5. Yes
6. Yes
7. No
8. Yes
9. No
10. Yes

age - 200
gender - robot
race - white with blue dots
country - The Free Land of The Mormon Church **I need ur real country**

ok here are the questions :
1. Do you support the use of the Atomic Bomb?
2. Would you have sent troops to Japan instead of droping the Atomic Bomb?
3. Do you blame Japan for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
4. Do you blame America for the use of the Atomic Bomb?
5. Do you thing they choose the right targets?
6. Do you think Tokyo should have been bombed?
7. Do you feel the polits should have disobeyed their orders?
8. Do you think the creator of the Atomic Bomb should have continued his research after he knew what it would do?
9. Do you think the Atomic Bomb should have been droped on a Naval Base instead?
10. Do you feel people need to learn about the Atomic Bombing in Japan in WWII?

please respond to this i need ten people to answer all ten questions so i can get a good grade

1. Yes.
2. No (you saw what happened in the Pacific Islands... :S).
3. Yes, they wouldn't have stopped otherwise.
4. Yes. They dropped it, but Hitler got the ball rolling with his Heavy Water programs).
5. Yes (Although at least one of the drops was on the wrong city in the first place - I think).
6. No (Nobody to surrender the country).
7. No, that's what they're supposed to do, follow orders... :headbang: (I'm assuming you meant PILOTS)
8. Yes (Einstein, along with many others worked on this project, had the Germans not hounded him out because he was Jewish, they result of WW2 could've been very different).
9. No (What's the point? May aswell nail a city and show you mean business).
10. Yes

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Race: White
Country: Scotland

I would like to thank you on all your responses it got me a good grade thanx


Glad you did, good thread aswell

Report from the testing grounds

"During the testing we droped one Atomic Bomb and looked at the effects. Then we droped a Nuclear bomb and looked at its effects. And then we compared them. The Atomic bomb did less damage and less radiation then that of the Nuclear Bomb. The next step is to see how we can bring down the radiation of the Atomic Bomb this way so The Free Land of The Mormon Church can have that distructive power with out the past effects."