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People, people. RB and a few others had a funny idea with the whole Shooban thing, but it's getting out of hand. Every day it's "Shooban" this or "shooban" that. Enough! GET YOUR OWN FRIGGIN' IDEAS!

Armandian Cheese has a point. Shooban shit is old and it is getting almsot as annoying as the n00b attacking the UN

GET YOUR OWN FRIGGIN' IDEAS!

I agree. People keep using Shoobans in all these ways and shit without asking. There is tons of Shooban stuff by people who were not involved with the war at all, and they havn't even asked permission.

Sorry, I'm not quite as experienced as you folks, what do you mean by 'shooban'

Sorry, I'm not quite as experienced as you folks, what do you mean by 'shooban'

A while ago RB and some other nations gang-banged a nation who's race was the Shooban. Now their the scum of NationStates. I myself have never RPd around the Shooban.

*calls in Generia to explain* :p

Yes, it was better when it was just RB/Borman/Generia/Parthia doing it.

Sorry, I'm not quite as experienced as you folks, what do you mean by 'shooban'

A nation called Shoobooshaaba went to invade a territory of TBD. TBD was/is an ally of GE so he went to stop Shoobooshaaba. GE is my greatest ally so I assisted and then Parthians did too. This coalition of three then proceeded to (as Mac said) 'gang-bang' Shoobooshaaba. (Edit:Wirraway attempted to protect Shoobooshaaba, but surrendered due to the size of the enemies, he now enslaves them as well.) RB came to join after Shoobooshaaba had been defeated and so then joined in to reap the rewards. Grenval had sent some money and soldiers to be used under foreign control and managed to get a plot of land for a military base, which has since been ceased.

Currently Borman Empire, Generic Empire, the Parthians, Roach-Busters, and Dracun Imperium control Shoobooshaaba and the majority of Shooban slaves.

Shoobans (natives of Shoobooshaaba) are the scum of the world. It is almost impossible to find a Shooban not in slavery. They are hideously ugly and on average have an IQ of 40-50. The Parthians has/had a Shooban slave market and that is where almost all Shoobans not in possession of those holding parts of Shoobooshaaba came from.

That’s about it. If you have any more question Ill be happy to answer them.

EDIT: GE's definiton of a Shooban is Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8713927&postcount=5)

ooc: let's make things clear are shoobans truly sub-human or is that what your scientists tell us?

That's about what I would have said if I were you. Well done, Borman. :)

ooc: let's make things clear are shoobans truly sub-human or is that what your scientists tell us?

Well, as the picture says, they are indeed considerably ugly. Their general lack of intelligence however could be attributed to the massive amounts of oppression provided by their new conquerors.

How come I'm always left out the whole Shooban thing, I was the only one trying to defend them for god-sakes. Never mind that I enslave them now.

you have to admit though enslaving shoobans gives you a edge

How come I'm always left out the whole Shooban thing, I was the only one trying to defend them for god-sakes. Never mind that I enslave them now.

Well I think it's more of focused on the conquerers. But I know how you feel so.

Wirraway was also involved. He tried to protect them, but now is one of their enslavers.

ooc: let's make things clear are shoobans truly sub-human or is that what your scientists tell us?

OOC: They truly are sub-human

Well I think it's more of focused on the conquerers. But I know how you feel so.

Wirraway was also involved. He tried to protect them, but now is one of their enslavers.

OOC: lol, ah, I'm basking in the recognition.

OOC: lol, ah, I'm basking in the recognition.

OOC: good. I really do know how you feel. RB is seen as the creator. When he really had nothing to do with creating them. I feel like I'm being pushed out of the way.

To be honest, I can't say that RB and Co. are helping the cause of keeping the Shoobans out of sight and mind. How can people not react, when II has (certainly recently) a thread every few days concerning their repression, execution, torture etc.? Eventually, it's inevitable that people are gonna react, especially if any time you attempt to react by diplomatic means, Parthia, RB et al immediately close ranks and blast out their "subhuman" propaganda. As an example, I was considering requesting the transfer of some Shoobans from RB to here, but decided that it was pointless, since I'd receive a swift rebuttal and thus be forced to move on to more direct means.

In short, perhaps if RB, Parthia and so forth either shut up about the bloody Shoobans or actually started letting people have access to them (thus enabling their gradual rehabilitation elsewhere) this problem would not persist.

To be honest, I can't say that RB and Co. are helping the cause of keeping the Shoobans out of sight and mind. How can people not react, when II has (certainly recently) a thread every few days concerning their repression, execution, torture etc.? Eventually, it's inevitable that people are gonna react, especially if any time you attempt to react by diplomatic means, Parthia, RB et al immediately close ranks and blast out their "subhuman" propaganda. As an example, I was considering requesting the transfer of some Shoobans from RB to here, but decided that it was pointless, since I'd receive a swift rebuttal and thus be forced to move on to more direct means.

In short, perhaps if RB, Parthia and so forth either shut up about the bloody Shoobans or actually started letting people have access to them (thus enabling their gradual rehabilitation elsewhere) this problem would not persist.


Most of the recent Shooban threads have not been started by a member of the coalition, RB, or Wirraway, they are by other people. And Parthians does have a Shooban slave market and plenty of nations purchase Shoobans.

To be honest, I can't say that RB and Co. are helping the cause of keeping the Shoobans out of sight and mind. How can people not react, when II has (certainly recently) a thread every few days concerning their repression, execution, torture etc.? Eventually, it's inevitable that people are gonna react, especially if any time you attempt to react by diplomatic means, Parthia, RB et al immediately close ranks and blast out their "subhuman" propaganda. As an example, I was considering requesting the transfer of some Shoobans from RB to here, but decided that it was pointless, since I'd receive a swift rebuttal and thus be forced to move on to more direct means.

In short, perhaps if RB, Parthia and so forth either shut up about the bloody Shoobans or actually started letting people have access to them (thus enabling their gradual rehabilitation elsewhere) this problem would not persist.

lol RB gave me shoobans :p

Ugh... I have to agree with this thread. Stop it, I'm completely sick of Shoobans. Shooban this, Shooban that, I know they're idiots, I know they're hideous, and I know they're overworked like Jews in the Holocaust. But still, I see threads every two seconds on Shoobans. I'd stand up for the poor guys, but RB and the Parthians, the main perpatrators of this, could wipe the floor with me only using their pinky fingers!

Anyways...just stop it. It was funny for a while, now it's just irritating.

I just wonder how many of these shoobans there were/are, because unless they bread like rabbits and grow up rather quickly, there's a hell of a lot spread around the game world for one nation to have provided.....

I just wonder how many of these shoobans there were/are, because unless they bread like rabbits and grow up rather quickly, there's a hell of a lot spread around the game world for one nation to have provided.....

OOC; We have breeding progrmas to make them reproduce like rabbits. And it's been a long time since Shoobooshaaba was conquered, so there have been many reproduced.

I don't like how much people are utilizing Shoobans now days, I mean, if you bought them, thats fine, use them as slaves. I don't mind, but I mean, it was better when it was just the conquering nations using them and not building crud off of them, like this one rediculous thread about Shoobans actually being an advanced civilization.

Anyway, if people want them, I would like to discuss it, but I think its getting kind of overused and the idea is drifting away from those of us originally involved.

OOC: Yet another case of someone's idea being ripped off and beaten past the point of death.....

Although I do agree, the creator(s) need to stop with all the 'Shooban this, Shooban that' stuff. Keep it in a thread or two only please, we don't need a new one every time something concerning the Shoobans happens.

OOC:Although I do agree, the creator(s) need to stop with all the 'Shooban this, Shooban that' stuff. Keep it in a thread or two only please, we don't need a new one every time something concerning the Shoobans happens.

It is not the creator(s) making the posts and threads. Other people are using the Shooban like it was their own.


I’m getting tried of it and it needs to stop. Only the creator(s) can use them.

Dude, do any of you smell that? Wait, it's just Automagfreek residue...

Anyway, the Shooban stuff has gotten a little old, but I have enjoyed most of the threads involving Shoobans that were started by those actually involved in the original enslavement. Personally, I feel justified using Shoobans when I need to (which is not that often), seeing as I actually took the effort and had the class to ask GE for permission, which is what anyone who wants to use Shoobans should do.

GET PERMISSION BEFORE YOU USE SOMEONE ELSE'S IDEA, YOU MACROCEPHALIC BABOONS!

Dude, do any of you smell that? Wait, it's just Automagfreek residue...



OOC: And what exactly are we implying here?

I don't like how much people are utilizing Shoobans now days, I mean, if you bought them, thats fine, use them as slaves. I don't mind, but I mean, it was better when it was just the conquering nations using them and not building crud off of them, like this one rediculous thread about Shoobans actually being an advanced civilization.

Anyway, if people want them, I would like to discuss it, but I think its getting kind of overused and the idea is drifting away from those of us originally involved.

I agree. People who havn't even purchased them are making threads about them that go against what they are. They're changing them without even having bought some.

It's just frankly ridiculous how people can't come up with a single idea by themselves. It seems like everytime one of II's big names does something, millions of copy cat threads pop up imitating them, in often poor fashion.

It's just frankly ridiculous how people can't come up with a single idea by themselves. It seems like everytime one of II's big names does something, millions of copy cat threads pop up imitating them, in often poor fashion.

I agree very much Armandian Cheese. There are too many things being copied and then, and now we cannot understand who actually came up with it, and it also is reduced significantly due to the poor copying (most).

I agree very much Armandian Cheese. There are too many things being copied and then, and now we cannot understand who actually came up with it, and it also is reduced significantly due to the poor copying (most).

Yeah its true. Everyone copies everything. If you wanna do something with Shoobans do it in a thread by one of the creators.

I made this comment in another Shooban thread, and ill say it here too

This whole thing is truly getting old. I.I seems to have this problem; I’d call it Favor of the Week Syndrome. Where as, something happens, and there’s a huge dog pile on top of that event.

Before now, DA and his antics was the “Flavor” now this shooban crap is the “flavor”. Past flavors have been “horde attack FWS” “Lets all be like (insert nation here) and do (whatever X nation has done.”, “Look at me, I’m so evil.” And so many others, genocide, oppression, liberations, communist rebellions, riots, even wars happen in sequence, someone does it, and suddenly, like girls wearing snow boots with skirts, it becomes a not so attractive fad.

I think AMF’s sig said it best “If you do something original, expect to be copied” Well, NS, in its slumps, is plagiarize central. You can’t go 10 seconds without someone copying the ideas that came before him. Its no wonder older players leave, everything’s been done, copied and redone to death, and if you have an original idea, you’ll see it copied in less time than it took you to RP it.

Its best to ignore it, but that’s hard when you want to get in on an RP…and all you can find is “done-to-death”, regurgitated ideas from a year ago.

I made this comment in another Shooban thread, and ill say it here too

This whole thing is truly getting old. I.I seems to have this problem; I’d call it Favor of the Week Syndrome. Where as, something happens, and there’s a huge dog pile on top of that event.

Before now, DA and his antics was the “Flavor” now this shooban crap is the “flavor”. Past flavors have been “horde attack FWS” “Lets all be like (insert nation here) and do (whatever X nation has done.”, “Look at me, I’m so evil.” And so many others, genocide, oppression, liberations, communist rebellions, riots, even wars happen in sequence, someone does it, and suddenly, like girls wearing snow boots with skirts, it becomes a not so attractive fad.

I think AMF’s sig said it best “If you do something original, expect to be copied” Well, NS, in its slumps, is plagiarize central. You can’t go 10 seconds without someone copying the ideas that came before him. Its no wonder older players leave, everything’s been done, copied and redone to death, and if you have an original idea, you’ll see it copied in less time than it took you to RP it.

Its best to ignore it, but that’s hard when you want to get in on an RP…and all you can find is “done-to-death”, regurgitated ideas from a year ago.

My god...that's right.

I made this comment in another Shooban thread, and ill say it here too

This whole thing is truly getting old. I.I seems to have this problem; I’d call it Favor of the Week Syndrome. Where as, something happens, and there’s a huge dog pile on top of that event.

Before now, DA and his antics was the “Flavor” now this shooban crap is the “flavor”. Past flavors have been “horde attack FWS” “Lets all be like (insert nation here) and do (whatever X nation has done.”, “Look at me, I’m so evil.” And so many others, genocide, oppression, liberations, communist rebellions, riots, even wars happen in sequence, someone does it, and suddenly, like girls wearing snow boots with skirts, it becomes a not so attractive fad.

I think AMF’s sig said it best “If you do something original, expect to be copied” Well, NS, in its slumps, is plagiarize central. You can’t go 10 seconds without someone copying the ideas that came before him. Its no wonder older players leave, everything’s been done, copied and redone to death, and if you have an original idea, you’ll see it copied in less time than it took you to RP it.

Its best to ignore it, but that’s hard when you want to get in on an RP…and all you can find is “done-to-death”, regurgitated ideas from a year ago.

Which is why I either make oddball RPs (Anti-Love formulas) or stick to RPing cliques. I know, some people don't like 'em, but it makes RPing infinitely more enjoyable.

Hmmm I am to blame, I mean I was the one who started this whole phenomenon. I just want to see the shoobans freed. I mean you can always tax their land. just give it back to the natives, remove all presence of the occupation, and watch as they systematically collaspe. It is that simple.

Hmmm I am to blame, I mean I was the one who started this whole phenomenon. I just want to see the shoobans freed. I mean you can always tax their land. just give it back to the natives, remove all presence of the occupation, and watch as they systematically collaspe. It is that simple.

Ok, let me make this clear, They are not people, please stop trying to humanize basically what is intelligent livestock.

Human or not human it is still extremely unhuman of us to do such things to the shoobans. Oppressing them through taxation methods(such as giving them their land back but make them pay taxes that prevents them from exceeding your fellow citizens) is more effective since you dont have to worry about angry nations scrutiny(not that it really matters) and you make an heavy profit.

Human or not human it is still extremely unhuman of us to do such things to the shoobans. Oppressing them through taxation methods(such as giving them their land back but make them pay taxes that prevents them from exceeding your fellow citizens) is more effective since you dont have to worry about angry nations scrutiny(not that it really matters) and you make an heavy profit.

I allow Shoobans to be freed in my nation, but they are poor and the poor of my nation are locked into ghettoes and let out only for a certain amount of time to work.

*Ahem*

To the creator of this thread, our compatriot Armandian Cheese, and to all of his verbal sympathizers who have posted their agreement with his expressed point here in this thread, I address the following.

Where the Hell do you get off telling others what to post about? Did it ever cross your minds that you didn't have to read the threads relating to Shoobans if you don't care for them? Did it occur to you that your personal opinion on a type of thread may be the equivalent of mindless babbling to the authors of those particular brands of threads? Do you understand that we, the nations who write about Shoobanity, really couldn't care less about your dislike for our topic? Obviously not.

There is a very simple solution to all of this. If you don't want to read or write about Shoobans, don't read or post in the threads dealing with them. It saves us all alot of trouble, and it keeps you from wasting bandwith with mindless threads like these that consist of a one-sentence preliminary post followed by a chorus of mindless hangers on echoing exactly what was said by the topic starter. This is followed by the inevitable masses of aggravated parties to whom the particular 'rant' was addressed, again, mindless babble that wastes everyone's time.

By posting a thread like this addressed to the Shooban holding nations such as myself, you have officially stolen a good ten minutes from me, time that I could have spent eating muffins. But no, you had to go posting your one sentence complaint that will make absolutely no difference at all to anyone who plans on writing about Shoobans and their oppression, depriving me of time and perfectly good muffins.

In short, stop wasting our time. If I want to write about Shoobans, I'm going to write about Shoobans and your half-assed one sentence rant threads sure as Hell aren't going to stop me.

People, people. RB and a few others had a funny idea with the whole Shooban thing, but it's getting out of hand. Every day it's "Shooban" this or "shooban" that. Enough! GET YOUR OWN FRIGGIN' IDEAS!

I've never used this Shooban idea myself. Got enough problematic minorities in my nation.

A nation called Shoobooshaaba went to invade a territory of TBD. TBD was/is an ally of GE so he went to stop Shoobooshaaba. GE is my greatest ally so I assisted and then Parthians did too. This coalition of three then proceeded to (as Mac said) 'gang-bang' Shoobooshaaba. (Edit:Wirraway attempted to protect Shoobooshaaba, but surrendered due to the size of the enemies, he now enslaves them as well.) RB came to join after Shoobooshaaba had been defeated and so then joined in to reap the rewards. Grenval had sent some money and soldiers to be used under foreign control and managed to get a plot of land for a military base, which has since been ceased.

Currently Borman Empire, Generic Empire, the Parthians, Roach-Busters, and Dracun Imperium control Shoobooshaaba and the majority of Shooban slaves.

Shoobans (natives of Shoobooshaaba) are the scum of the world. It is almost impossible to find a Shooban not in slavery. They are hideously ugly and on average have an IQ of 40-50. The Parthians has/had a Shooban slave market and that is where almost all Shoobans not in possession of those holding parts of Shoobooshaaba came from.

That’s about it. If you have any more question Ill be happy to answer them.

EDIT: GE's definiton of a Shooban is Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8713927&postcount=5)

Aah, now it all becomes clear ... thanks

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414487 Basicly this means: talk about them and you're dead. This is MY way of dealing with this annoying nonsense.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414487 Basicly this means: talk about them and you're dead. This is MY way of dealing with this annoying nonsense.

A bit excessive I think, I don't use them that often, except in my character RPs and occasionally as military irregulars, instead I usually use other ethnic minorities in their place.

ooc: let's make things clear are shoobans truly sub-human or is that what your scientists tell us?OOC: They truly are sub-humanOOC; We have breeding progrmas to make them reproduce like rabbits. And it's been a long time since Shoobooshaaba was conquered, so there have been many reproduced.
OOC: Let's make things clear about using OOC in this topic.

OOC stands for "Out Of Character", as I'm sure all of you know. The three statements quoted above do not refer to real-world events. They refer to something that was created in-game as part fo one or several RPs. The above statements are referring to thier in-game characteristics, and are therefore In-Character (IC), not OOC.

If you as a player make statements about another player in an OOC remark, that remark becomes actionable by NS Mods. If you are referring to a player as subhum, ugly, or unintelligent, that's flaming. Since that's clearly not the case here, I strongly advise "Call to power", "Borman Empire", and all others who misuse the term OOC by describing IC activities to rethink how you use this terminology.

IC is anything that happens in Roleplay. OOC is anything that happens between nations. You are the player that participates in roleplays, your nation is a fictional creation that has IC opinions of actions in that roleplay. Get the two confused, and the Hammer of Mod can fall without warning. Clear?

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Green Sun has pretty much banned them. In a few years the few Shoobans that are in Green Sun will die and we've banned teh import and reproduction of them. Any wild ones are to be shot on sight and their heads turned in for $50. If they're found importing shooban heads then they get thrown into prison for a felony and a large fine (Double the profit he/she made)