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It has come to the attention of the government of Cesania that many nations with populations greater than 1.5 billion often engage in conflict with nations of much smaller populations, this is understandable, these nations often times willingly engaged in war with larger nations. But on occaision, these larger nations use their greater power to shield them from consequence, they use their larger armies, better funding and greater influence to engage in conduct unbecoming of a nation. they negate smaller less powerful countries in negotiations and eagerly engage in unlimited conflicts with opponents who cannot stand before them. Not all of these nations hav satisfactory reasons for crushing the smaller nations with which they batle and yet nothing is doen about it, these nations deliberately use their power to crush smaller nations without consequence to themselves and there is nothing now that can be doen about it. To this end the ation of Cesania Proposes a Mutual Aid Pact for the Benefit of Less Powerful Nations. To join a nation need only have a population of less than 1.5 billion or an economy of less than Good. All Nations once joining this pact would be welcome to stay within it for as long as it wants, even beyond the time its population grows beyond 1.5 billion or its economy inceases past 'Good'. The Nations comprising this pact would be requiredonly to aid other nations within the Pact in any way necesary.
(OOC: If politicese wasn't your first language, pretty much I'm proposing an alliance of nations with populations of less than 1.5 billion or with economic indexes less than 'good', any nation joining the alliance would be free to stay until it wanted out even if its population or economy was greater than what is allowed to JOIN the pact.)

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway advises Cesania that it will declare war upon it as a preemptive strike against any possible organization that would threaten the national security of a large country such as ourselves, unless all attempts to form the proposed group are dropped. You have 24 hours to comply.

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway advises Cesania that it will declare war upon it as a preemptive strike against any possible organization that would threaten the national security of a large country such as ourselves, unless all attempts to form the proposed group are dropped. You have 24 hours to comply.

Parthia will support the Concordiat against small nations threatening security of larger ones. Our hegemony must be preserved.

-Shah Khosru III

Roach-Busters will back her great allies, the Iron Concordiat and the Plutocratic Shahdom, 100%.

-Generalissimo J.L.

OIS Headquarters
Valhalla Command Station
Transnapastain

“So…basically, what you’re tell me, is that, these smaller nations are banding together to stave off “the big meanies” that pick on them?” asked Director-General Davis quietly

“Uh, yes sir.” Replied Sub-Commander Fires

“I see…we’ll, as I’m pretty sure we qualify as one of those “big bullies”, we can’t have that, now can we. Nations are already lining up to destroy these little nations…and that’s just not god for PR…though we could use a nice “wag the dog” for the upcoming election…but, aside from that…. don’t they realize it’d be easier if they were to attempt to buddy up to one of the larger nations, or, God forbid, attempt to go it alone, and stand up and fight?” he took a long drag from his cigar.

“Of course…. these larger nations must realize their only proving these tiny nations points, by simply resorting to “gunboat diplomacy”, they aren’t making matters any better. Maybe this alliance will die, but another will come, and then they’ll pounce on it too, and, finally, they’ll exhaust themselves, fighting one to many bush wars.” Another long drag. “I think maybe the most prudent action would be to leave well enough alone, besides,” he added with a sly grin, “should this come to war…we can always covertly sell to the smaller nations, and no one would ever know. They get to last 6 months longer in a pitched battle, the “meanie” nations forces get more of a workout, and take more losses, and we come out scott free, with an inflated black bank account.” Finishing the cigar, he snuffed it in the ashtray, watching the smoke rise slowly towards the celling.


OOC: I’m not poking fun at you, by the way, I see you're point for the alliance, and even agree with it. However, like the others, we have our empires to preserve :)

OIS Headquarters
Valhalla Command Station
Transnapastain

“So…basically, what you’re tell me, is that, these smaller nations are banding together to stave off “the big meanies” that pick on them?” asked Director-General Davis quietly

“Uh, yes sir.” Replied Sub-Commander Fires

“I see…we’ll, as I’m pretty sure we qualify as one of those “big bullies”, we can’t have that, now can we. Nations are already lining up to destroy these little nations…and that’s just not god for PR…though we could use a nice “wag the dog” for the upcoming election…but, aside from that…. don’t they realize it’d be easier if they were to attempt to buddy up to one of the larger nations, or, God forbid, attempt to go it alone, and stand up and fight?” he took a long drag from his cigar.

“Of course…. these larger nations must realize their only proving these tiny nations points, by simply resorting to “gunboat diplomacy”, they aren’t making matters any better. Maybe this alliance will die, but another will come, and then they’ll pounce on it too, and, finally, they’ll exhaust themselves, fighting one to many bush wars.” Another long drag. “I think maybe the most prudent action would be to leave well enough alone, besides,” he added with a sly grin, “should this come to war…we can always covertly sell to the smaller nations, and no one would ever know. They get to last 6 months longer in a pitched battle, the “meanie” nations forces get more of a workout, and take more losses, and we come out scott free, with an inflated black bank account.” Finishing the cigar, he snuffed it in the ashtray, watching the smoke rise slowly towards the celling.


OOC: I’m not poking fun at you, by the way, I see you're point for the alliance, and even agree with it. However, like the others, we have our empires to preserve :)

OOC: I'm happy you see the irony, but hey I was bored, which is probably the catalyst for most of the things that happen on I.I.

OOC: I'm happy you see the irony, but hey I was bored, which is probably the catalyst for most of the things that happen on I.I.


That is oh so true :)

But, in all seriousness, I wish you good luck.

The Commonwealth of Warhammer Syndicate denouces the formation of a small-nation alliance. Us big nations need to protect our national and international security!

The Commonwealth of Warhammer Syndicate denouces the formation of a small-nation alliance. Us big nations need to protect our national and international security!

OOC: Wirraway, Parth, RB leave him alone seriously let him form something if he wants. You maybe bored but we have got to let people who can RP come through.

Oh and WS, althought thats IC I would point out that I think the author means the active, big population players who are part of what one could call the 'Great and the Good' of I.I. (Big and the Bad would be more appropriate really). No personal offence intended, Thanks.

OOC: Wirraway, Parth, RB leave him alone seriously let him form something if he wants. You maybe bored but we have got to let people who can RP come through.

Oh and WS, althought thats IC I would point out that I think the author means the active, big population players who are part of what one could call the 'Great and the Good' of I.I. (Big and the Bad would be more appropriate really). No personal offence intended, Thanks.

OOC: ok...

The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway advises Cesania that it will declare war upon it as a preemptive strike against any possible organization that would threaten the national security of a large country such as ourselves, unless all attempts to form the proposed group are dropped. You have 24 hours to comply.The United Empire of Guffingford will support Cesania with all means necessary to protect them from insane nations such as Warhammer Syndicate and Roach-Busters. Fear not Cesania, for their military might are only big words, unfounded claims and a lot of talk coming from the mouths of those who feast upon the dead.

To save the world from intellectual and moral decay, we are here to protect those against the oppressor. If you are so hellbent on destruction, why don't you tootle off to your Shooban hunting grounds, killing beasts who don't even know what is happening to them. The art of murder is to let your victim get a taste of ultimate fear, the superiority of your assassin, and looking inside the barrel of the gun - knowing that your life is over when he pulls the trigger. That is power, not by killing braindead monkeys running around. I am fully prepared to unleash my warmachine upon these nations who think they are untouchable simply because of neglect by the powers that be. No more.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/guffingford.jpg
- Johann Gleighmont, Chancellor of Guffingford.

OOC: This is something nobody has ever suspected. Guffingford turning soft!

To: Whom it May Concern,
The Iron Concordiat of Wirraway
From: Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Subject: Wanton Warmongering

It is with the utmost disgust that the Democratic Imperium views the actions of a few petty nations such as your own to stifle a tiny body of nations attempting to ensure for themselves at least some security in the world. The larger, more economically developed nations of the world should have nothing to fear from this clearly defensive alliance to protect nations against aggressors such as youyrself. We question your true motives for your threats, and will view any attack upon this alliance as an attack upon the Imperium itself.

[OOC: And I'm agreeing with Guff.... incredible...]

OOC: Since Guff and TMG are both good allies of mine, I am not going to get further involved. I reccomend we just let this alliance alone.

OOC: BAH, your all no fun :p

In light of recent communications we have seen fit to rescind our deadline.

OOC: Sry, was in So. Padre for the last few days, it was an unexpected trip.
IC:
Official Statement from the Government of Cesania

It is not our intent that the MAPLPN (Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations) be a threat to larger nations, The organization is not meant to be an offensive Alliances but instead a defensive one, guarding against the decay of the responsibility of large nations to the world, It is our intent that smaller nations have the means necesary to defend themselves from aggresivley powerful nations.

(OOC: some of my puppets and some other nations I have seen have encountered situations where very large nations have refused to cooperate or negotiate with a nation stating simply that they are large enough that if the smaller nation wants to make an issue of it they will quickly find that their nation has overnight become a net exporter of plate glass and a net importer of anti radiation meds, for obvious reasons I am trying to put a stop to this sort of behaviour, it prevents new players from getting into the game when an older player can simply wipe them off the map with out any real consequences)

:Official Statement from Mondothian Ministry of International Affairs (SecState):
In light of recent events concerning the Farminan incident, and to support the ideals of Mondoth and its people, The Nation of Mondoth signs the Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations and hopes that it leads to a long and fruitful alliance.

Official Imperial Statement

The Empire is heartily amused by this would-be alliance of banana republics and tin pot dictatorships. Unity or not, we will still eat you if you provoke us.

The Governmetn of Northern Nation States also sees this as a good idea and will join the pact in the hope that this aliance will be beneficial to all involved

The Nation of Samaran is intrigued by this Pact and will ally itself with the nations belonging to it.

Shenon will also join this alliance

While barely fitting within the guidelines of this Treatise, We would like to lend our aid. We pray that this is works out as planned.

Flaming Souls

OOC: Is this limited to certain tech levels?

You are certainly welcome to join

OOC: It's intended for modern or near moder tech, all of the other nations are modern tech, I don't know what your tech level is though so I can't say if this alliance would be of any bemefit any, if You're future I guess we could send money and food and whatnot...

Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations

The nation of Alidor would like to join this alliance of smaller nations in the interest of national defence and global security.

We propose that we shall provide,
- Military aid and support to nations that are under threat,
- The setting aside of currency from our annual budget, to be used in support of other nations within this agreement.
- In the event of a nation being invaded and Subsiqently liberated by allied forces, the currency fund maybe used in the rebuilding of that nations infrastructure.

Brian Lance
Minister of Defence
Bureau of National Defence

Before making any commitment, I would like to see a formal document outlining what this pact does and does not consist of. Many large nations are starting to feel threatened by this proposed pact. I feel the original intent was not to gang up on large nations, but rather as a type of NATO, which would allow all members to protect each other incase of unprovoked hostilities against a member nation.

I believe this can be benefitial to countries such as mine. I await for more clarification. Thank you.


General Csaszar
Supreme Leader, Doweir

This alliance is indeed intended to be a NATO type defensive alliance, although due to the diversity of NationStates I don't believe that the same amount of integration and standarization is necesarry or pactical (though, if the members want to standardize weapons for the allianc or cross train militaries I don't hava a problem with it) I think the best idea would be something like what Alidor promises, just set aside a little bit of money and promise aid in case of an attack by larger nations.

The Mutual Aid Pact of less powerful Nations
[DRAFT]

[Revision 2.1]
Name:
1. This agreement shall be referred to as MAP.

Requirements:
2. At the time of accepting MAP, nations will have a population not greater than 1.5 billion inhabitants.

Purpose:
3. The purpose of MAP is to defend other member nations if there has been an unprovoked attack on a member.

Stipulations:
4. Members agree to establish diplomatic relations with each other.
5. Members agree to not restrict the sale of weapons between other members
6. MAP members agree not to provoke other countries to attack them with the intent of bringing in other members to assist.
7. Members will set aside an annual amount of 0.1% of GDP to help with humanitarian and military aid to nations under attack.

Aggression by members:
8. If a MAP member attacks other MAP members then the MAP alliance is obliged to defend the attacked nation/s, unless ethical or moral presidents with in your nation are threatened by your intervention. A vote whether to expel the aggressor will take place, with 50%+1 to expel required.
9. If a MAP member want to engage in offensive military action against a NON-MAP member for any reason, assistance will not be offered without at least a 65% percent approval from the MAP members.

Aggression against members:
10. If a MAP member is attacked without provocation, the MAP alliance will assist militarily and financially.
11. If a MAP member has provoked an attack by a non-member, members will not collectively assist this nation, without a vote of at least 65%. If the vote fails to pass members may offer aid if desired.

Other notes:
12. If a nation grows larger than 1.5 billion while a member, they can still remain part of MAP.
13. Nations larger than 1.5 billion wishing to assist smaller nations, may join as non-voting members.

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Please comment and make suggestions.

Thats a good start, though I don't like the idea of limiting agression between members and non members, It is my opinion that MAP should only apply as a defensive treaty, and not limit offensive actions of members against nonmembers. Although if a member initiates aggression and then asks asks or specifically states that MAP will protect it then perhaps votes should be taken on courses of action, bu if a member wants to start a war by him/herself then I see no reason why MAP should be involved unless requested.

I would like to know if Alidor has been accepted into this alliance.


OOC If I have been accepted I think several members should discus the terms of the agreement as I think some are vague.

ooc: This is a great idea. I think it's wonderful, and I'll be entering my biggest puppet into this alliance. Unfortionatly, pending the revolution I'm planning, I'm a complete fascist, so this is a no-go for this account lol

Collectives is very interested in joining this alliance. We would like to send our Minister of foreign relations, Daniel Andrews. He is a very skilled politician and should be quite helpful to your cause. We are currently wondering about the status of some requirements, but other than that, we are quite happy with the idea of an alliance made specificly for weaker nations.

ooc: Puppet of No Endorse. Right now, I have a population of 1.454 billion, so I'm really pushing it. Feel free to say no, but I have no military (not even a tank. The coast guard falls under the police budget :p)

Thats a good start, though I don't like the idea of limiting agression between members and non members, It is my opinion that MAP should only apply as a defensive treaty, and not limit offensive actions of members against nonmembers. Although if a member initiates aggression and then asks asks or specifically states that MAP will protect it then perhaps votes should be taken on courses of action, bu if a member wants to start a war by him/herself then I see no reason why MAP should be involved unless requested.
I see what you are saying. My concern was that countries would join only because they want MAP nations to help them fight in a war they planned on started beforehand. I will see what I can do with the wording. Please keep the suggestions coming everyone.

Can you clarify term 6 please as some nations find the word “no” enough provocation to launch an assault.

Can I suggest that the following terms be changed to

8 If a MAP member attacks other MAP members then the MAP alliance is obliged to defend the attacked nation/s, unless ethical or moral presidents with in your nation are threatened by your intervention.

9 If a MAP member want to engage in offensive military action against a non MAP member, for any reason, it must first seek at least a 65% percent approval from the MAP members, it is bound by the final vote of MAP members and must adhere to it or face expulsion from the alliance.

To Larger Nations: How does a nation of 5 mil. threten you if you have 1.5 billion? I'm just curious.

To Larger Nations: How does a nation of 5 mil. threten you if you have 1.5 billion? I'm just curious.
It's the othe way around that we are conserned about. The 1.5 billion was just what was suggested at the beginning. It's not set in stone. If the feeling is that it should be lowered, that's fine by me.


****Please look at the revised draft and comment****

Thank you.

does that mean I can add MAP to my sig ?

I for one would rather not hav to submit to a vote any intent to engage in Extra Map conflict, as long as I'm not trying to bring Map into it I don't see why it should affect Map in any way

Whittier offers 25 billion canali in aid for this worth while organization.
As a token of goodwill, we offer also you 25,000 Silkworm missiles.

It's the othe way around that we are conserned about. The 1.5 billion was just what was suggested at the beginning. It's not set in stone. If the feeling is that it should be lowered, that's fine by me.


****Please look at the revised draft and comment****

Thank you.
Well alot of large nations had problems with this pact. They claimed national security as thier main cause.

well, the organization is supposed to be defensive not offensive so I don't quite understand their concern.

If your a member you can put it in Your sig if you want,

I'm also leery of impeding the rights of nations to ngage in wars outside of MAP, I know that Mondoth will leave if wars outside MAP must be ratified for each individual nation but I don't want people going to war with the intent that MAP will aid them. so we could have a vote whether to aid aggressors or not but not to eject them.

Though we are certainly not a small nation, Tocrowkia would like to join to protect the young nations of the world.

The Queendom and her colony, The Island of Lilith would like to join.

ooc: for all you powerful nations out there, i would support these guys, or even join. yes, i said join.
the other option is to crush them beore they get off the ground

think about it. say the get even 30 new nations, around 12 million people each and 10-20 larger nations like THL. thats a boatload of people, and who the hell would pick on them? every rp vs a n00b would have "are you in that allaince for n00bs?" post before every declare war one.

and now lets fast foreward, only a month. those newest nations have 100 million each, and untold amounts for anyone larger. the flow of new people into NS will be as fast as ever, and they will seek refuge with this alliance. they would absolutely steamroll any large nation in sheer numbers. also, the more troops at you disposal the better your tactics can be, so this alliance could form several really good RPers, they are all the more powerfull.

now imagine you are one of the larger nations that joined it. who would lead them? you would. you would have an unstopable alliance of nations thats population grows at an incredible rate. in less than a year you could have the world by its throat.

****#9 has been modified, and #13 has been added*****

How do others want this to happen? Once the majority are satisfied with it, nations can then accept the agreement, and then are part of MAP...?

ooc: for all you powerful nations out there, i would support these guys, or even join. yes, i said join.
the other option is to crush them beore they get off the ground

think about it. say the get even 30 new nations, around 12 million people each and 10-20 larger nations like THL. thats a boatload of people, and who the hell would pick on them? every rp vs a n00b would have "are you in that allaince for n00bs?" post before every declare war one.

and now lets fast foreward, only a month. those newest nations have 100 million each, and untold amounts for anyone larger. the flow of new people into NS will be as fast as ever, and they will seek refuge with this alliance. they would absolutely steamroll any large nation in sheer numbers. also, the more troops at you disposal the better your tactics can be, so this alliance could form several really good RPers, they are all the more powerfull.

now imagine you are one of the larger nations that joined it. who would lead them? you would. you would have an unstopable alliance of nations thats population grows at an incredible rate. in less than a year you could have the world by its throat.
refer to post 37

well, the organization is supposed to be defensive not offensive so I don't quite understand their concern.

If your a member you can put it in Your sig if you want,

I'm also leery of impeding the rights of nations to ngage in wars outside of MAP, I know that Mondoth will leave if wars outside MAP must be ratified for each individual nation but I don't want people going to war with the intent that MAP will aid them. so we could have a vote whether to aid aggressors or not but not to eject them.
I shall join this alliance of nations. I have currently over 780 million people, and a military of approximatly 3-4 million, including reserves.

Again, Roachbusters and bum chums take it upon themselves to bully smaller nations. It appears honour in the right wing has been completely destroyed, if there was any in the first place. It is typical that nations such as The Parthians continue to bully and pick on weaker nations for "hegemony".

The FARoH (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=hogsweat ), a huge and powerful nation - moreso than the weaklings of Parthia and Roach Busters pledges it's full support to this Mutual Aid Pact. If this pact or any of it's members are attacked in Aggression the FARoH will act quickly and decisively to defend weaker nations.

In Peace, Goodwill, and Friendship~
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Directory of the Free Allied Republics (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
"A Bear that smells the trap cannot be caught.."
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

OOC - Cesania, this is very good work for your first RP! Keep it up man, don't be discouraged by imperialists like roach busters etc. There's always the good guys like us to help you out. if you ever need anything shoot me a telegram and i'll reply soon [hopefully]

UberPenguinLand would like to join in this Organization. We were wondering, if we wanted to overthrow an oppresive Government on our planet, would we be supported? Many smaller nations have been taken over and made part of their Government. They opress many species, and some are even taken as slaves. Also, they keep almost all information from their populace. They have Broadband Internet, while the average citizen barely knows math. We acheived independance at the terrible cost of nearly 2 Million penguins, nearly a sixth of our population. This has gone on for too long, and we are sick of it.

Wade XXV the Great

OOC: This is NOT a Nation States nation I am talking about declaring war against. It is for RPing purposes only.

The Queendom of Leayon wishes to join the Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations.
-Seli'onaII
Queen
Queendom of Leayon (QL)
- Sir John Hellingar
Minister of Foreign Affairs, QL

The free nation of spanigland would wish to join this pact.
Thankyou.

As long as you are elgible (pop+ less than 1.5 billion) you are free to join, I like the latest version of the rules, letting nations larger than 1.5 billion in as non voting members is a good Idea too. If everyone agrees then we can go ahead and take a vote on the treaty.
Cesania votes yes.

I like it. Lets get this thing rollin!

Mondoth votes yes on the treaty.

Doweir votes yes!

Samaran votes YES!

Alidor votes yes

THE GRANTON TIMES
FINDAN TO JOIN MAP!
GRANTON, NOV 3. JOHN O'SELZNICK (FIP).
In Vote in Parliment yeterday, the Parliment voted 419 t0 81 to join the Mutual Aid Pact fo Less Powerful Nations, otherwise known as MAP. In a statement after the vote Prime Minister Sir Thomas de Hessington said " Although we have 793 million people, we do feel helping smaller nations would be benefical to both sides. I do belive that in time, MAP shall be one of the world's most powerful alliances, and shall be a power to contend with."
The goverment's already rpmised to lay out M(Monacrhs)758 900,056.80 form the gorss domestic product for the Treaty, slightly over the amount required by MAP's conditions, "By donating more, we help stop the repression of smaller nations by larger, ones, who have nothing better to do than bother smaller nations." When asked about the rapidly escalating Feline Catfish Crisis (See pages 4, 5, and 6 for more info.) de Hessington said " Both Foreign Minister Hassahoff and I have said again and again and like how we will say again, and again, and agian, we remain vehemently neutral from this war, and as both Defense Minister Rodgerson and I have both said the war is useless and unecssary, and I still do hope that both sides come to an agreement."

"All nations in MAP are hereby offered embassies within the Isle of Skye. This embassy will allow you, via telegram, to request our nation's aid against attack from a larger nation."

"While the Council of Clans did not approve our Joinining of MAP, I as commander in cheif, swear to defend any smaller nation that is unjustly attacked by an empire."

To exchange embassies with Alidor visit the link in my sig.

"All nations in MAP are hereby offered embassies within the Isle of Skye. This embassy will allow you, via telegram, to request our nation's aid against attack from a larger nation."

"While the Council of Clans did not approve our Joinining of MAP, I as commander in cheif, swear to defend any smaller nation that is unjustly attacked by an empire."

The nation of Mondoth expresses interest in exchanging embassies with Roach-Busters
Our embassy detail is;
1 ambassador
137 embassy staff
48 armed Marine Guards (48 G-11 AR, 48 PG-11 side Arm and 2 SG-12 DMR)
1 armed helicopter
2 unarmed Helicopter
2 APCs

can be modified for individual nations policies

Mondoth accepts embassies with the following rules
No more than 50 armed guards
No more than 2 armed helicopters
No more than 4 armed vehicles
No highly explosive weapons (Flash-bangs and similar weapons are allowed) or Main Battle Tanks please

the Empire of North Mack would like to join the Mutual Aid Pact of Less powerful countries.

OOC:

Hog since when have you been a good guy? You're a Stalinist for christ's sake :P

One point, MAP as an alliance couldn't stand up to a lot of the player blocs out there. Please read Euroslavia's new player help about these blocs.

Please don't make the mistake of annoying something out of dormancy, you're doing so well :).

IC:

We have nothing but scorn for such small blocs, but we consider such a grouping to be a potential threat to our interests.

We suggust you do not draw our attentions otherwise you may be forced to re-compense us for the trouble of purifying your nations by giving us human material for the mines and factories of the Imperial Guilder Empire.

For God and Saint Peter,

Criticus Zabic,
Foreign Affairs Advisor to the Emperor,

Samaran will sign the revised treaty

Final Version of Agreement and a list of members can be found here:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8807728#post8807728

Final Version of Agreement and a list of members can be found here:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8807728#post8807728

kewl

North Mack votes yos to the treaty. It is a VERY good treaty, especcially since i am already being attacked by countries with a combined size of over 9 Billion. 9 bil v. 14 mil. hmm... thats fair...

Who's attacking? got a link? my forces aren't doing anything at the moment

there is a new thread. it started in another thread, but now it is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416905)


please help my country

Uh well, I don't see any other nations attacking and FBE really needs to read the stickies regarding FT nd just playing NS in general. I don't see much threat of real consequence that can't be handled by somehow who was a working knowledge of the contents of the applicable sticy threads 9the first four or five threads in the international incidents forum) Also as I'm not FT I can't really interfere, if the problem persists I have an FT puppet who will look into it.

there is a new thread. it started in another thread, but now it is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416905)


please help my country
As the second nation to have diplomatic relations with us, and as a fellow member of MAP, we do care about your wellbeing. We have been informed that in addition to other countries helping your cause, Phalanix has committed 75 million troops to assist you.

We are recalling our ambassador Jeff Lawton from your nation until these hostilities are settled. Assuming war breaks out, we will be sending you $100 million in food and ammunition for your army, although we remain hopeful for a peaceful solution.


Minister of Defense
Lieutenant General Scott Wilson

Phalanix has committed 75 million troops to assist you.

OOC: Right... very few nations field that many troops in NS and what on Earth is Phalanix?

Also, it would take you a decade or more to move that many troops anywhere.

From His Divine Worship, Theocrat of Parologicistan, to Member Nations of MAP, Greetings!

We, The Theocrat, Speaking for the People of Parologicistan and all the Faithful wherever they might reside wish to join your most August alliance.

Further, by authority granted to Us by God, We command the larger nations to keep peace with MAP, or suffer Divine Wrath.


Most Worshipfully Yours,
His Divine Worship, The Theocrat of Parologicistan,
In God's Name

ah. the war is over. Allied Businessmen, the nation attacking us, has been turned to a nuclear wasteland. All diplomats may return to North Mack. Unfortunatley, in the fighting, Emperor James II was killed. Emperor Ryler III welcomes all diplomats to North Mack

Leafanistan has realized that too many small nations get squished easily in RPing and to be honest, I stayed out of RPing until I was 600 million + to aviod being outright destroyed. Leafanistan will be glad to offer a 15% discount to any member of this alliance to its storefront for developing nations.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8834959

Secret Communique to all Mutual Aid Pact nations

Leafanistan is willing to offer defensive tactical nukes to any Aid Pact nation. Just send me a telegram and we'll arrange something.

If new nations are still welcome to join, Nomadic People of Madnestan is more than willing to do so. Our armed forces are small in quantity but great in quality, and they are experienced by the 7 years long civil war that has just come to an end. Therefore, we ask permission to sign the pact.

BUMParnation

Aymorphia, Theselonia, OvalQwik, and Melbrokia all sign this treaty.

ah. the war is over. Allied Businessmen, the nation attacking us, has been turned to a nuclear wasteland. All diplomats may return to North Mack. Unfortunatley, in the fighting, Emperor James II was killed. Emperor Ryler III welcomes all diplomats to North Mack
The Imperial Land of Findan wishes to help North Mack in the recovery efforts.
We shall send decontamination teams and any other reasonable requests.

Sir Charles Hassahoff
Foreign Minister
Imperial Land of Findan

From: Van Luxemburg
To: MAP

thanks to attention from Mondoth, Van Luxemburg is interested in Joining the MAP, we are interested in helping in our fellow nations. for info on our antion, please visit our Factbook (in my sig.)


Koen van Luxemburg,
Grand Duke of van Luxemburg.
High Commander-in-chief of the Van Luxemburg Armed Forces

J. Blom,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Thread seems to be abandoned by the host... most unfortunate.

Thread seems to be abandoned by the host... most unfortunate.
OOC:If I have permission of the other members I shall take over the thread. I'm also open to suggestions on who other than myself and the host to tske over the list.

Final Version of Agreement and a list of members can be found here:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8807728#post8807728

Sorry about my prolonged absence I have returned, It looks like Doweir is doing a good job maintaining the list of members.

OOC: It's hard holding down a steady job and posting in here. If only posting paid the bills! Don't worry, Mondoth lets me know when I'm slipping ;). If people could put the same link for MAP as I have, and post if they want to join in that thread instead, that would be helpful.

Cesania, welcome back. The Rogue Nation of Doweir would like to establish formal diplomatic relations with you and any other nation that is part of MAP. Please visit the link in my sig for details.

Due to recent hardships faced by fellow members of the Nine in the international realm the Nation of Feindseligkeit hereby joins the Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations.

Hermann Oppenheimer,
Minister of Foreign Affairs