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Victory Over the Orgasm!
Victorian International Syndication

Neurologists at the Mercy Medical Institute in Municipality-1 on the Isle of Crowns have finally made a long-awaited breakthrough. Almost a decade after receiving Victory Directive 717, the researchers at MMI have located the source of one of the great obstacles to civilized living.

Apologist-6818 explained the reasoning behind the Directive: "Sexual pleasure has long proven anathematic to society. People will selfishly commit heinous crimes in order to acquire a split-second of ecstasy - they will spread disease, purchase the services of prostitutes, and risk the creation of children without taking into account how those children should be provided for. Some may even take to hedonistic excesses, forsaking productivity or worth to society because they are enslaved to that split-second of chemical joy. All use has gone out of it. To our apelike ancestors, perhaps it was necessary for them to have this lure so that they might reproduce at all, but the species has grown beyond that primitive stage. What evolution has not yet let us shed, science instead shall evict. We no longer have a need for some hormonal lure - for civilization and government provide the adequate impetus to reproduce - and so we ought to be rid of it, lest its vices disintegrate us and plunge us into that ancient, apelike state."

The MMI researchers were proud to serve as the guardians of civilization, and worked diligently for nine years with hundreds of willing research subjects, to find a small clump of nerve cells in the cerebral cortex that is the prime perpetrator of the orgasm. They claim it will be a simple matter to eradicate it, similar to using gamma rays to treat cancer or prepare a factory worker. The appropriate calibration techniques are being distributed to all Medical Institutes in Total Victory, and calls for mandatory treatment will begin at the end of the month.

Said Neurologist-936: "I am glad to be able to do something good for civilization, and to give other people the chance to contribute to society for the common good, not self-gratification." Victorian citizens can expect to receive their treatment schedules within one week.

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It is absurd that you would remove one of the basic pleasures of Human existance.
You would remove that which gives us pleasure, and reduce the lives of your people to nothing more then meaningless shells of existance?

I call this no less then an abomonation on basic Human Rights.
Because of the actions of your closed minded National Government, your people are no longer welecome within our borders, and all chances of peaceful relations are now nonexistant.

I hope, for the sake of the people of Total Victory, that your nation realises the error of it's ways before it is too late.

- Head of state,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar

"Bah. People are easier to control when they're living like animals, with no technology, rights, clothes or education. Leave them to their promiscuity; it keeps their mind off other things, such as what kind of government they might prefer..."

Druid Darkon
Taerkasten Druidic Council

Guardians of civilization? Bah who are you attempting to bullshit? The Shoobans? Already by this rather pathetic display of the uselessness of this branch of science the current Medical Council has been lobbying for a rather swift and brutal invasion to see what the brain of stupidity looks like.

~Phoenix Maxwell, Presidential Military Advisor

***Official Proclimation***
Made by: Emporer Shaz Bot
The Holy Empire of Shazbotdom
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I do not understand why you would take away one of the best feeling a human being can have? When someone thinks of sex, they think of not what happens during sex but what can happen at the end of sex. The Orgasm is the most lovely part of sexual intercourse. It is the best feeling of pleasure that anyone experiences. I condemn your act of taking that away from the people of your nation and demand that you stop your illegal experimentation on humans.

~~~End Transmission~~~

Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Just as we thought... anyways you remove that and there is basicilly no more reason to have sex... which means no more reproduction... Whichm means your population will die off.... I highly suggest you do it to your on citizens ONLY. You dare touch one of our citizens and we will bring such holy hell down on you that you will have to rename your self 'Total Debris'."
End Statement

OOC:The Red Tide Goverment doesnt really care what happens to other nations... But if a foreign enemy harms one of its citizens it has a tendency to pillage that nation for all its worth.

The Empire of Deatharon has to agree with the Nation of Redtide and any attempt to harm our citizens with this operation will lead to war.

Official Response
Author: Committee V-0090, Chaired by Diplomacy-215
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The vitriolic responses of other nations has only proven that they are slaves to sexual addiction. They do not find pleasure from the act save what an outdated neural stimulus provides them. We derive our pleasure simply from doing our duty to the society - be that duty to research, to conduct diplomacy, to manufacture goods, or simply to reproduce, we derive pleasure from successfully fulfilling our individual purposes.

We find that sexual addiction is the unfortunate and atrocious side effect of the orgasm, leading to moral decay and utterly inappropriate behavior. We have sought to cure that addiction in our society efficiently and totally, and have moved to do so.

Regardless, no foreign nationals shall be made to undergo the procedure.

While you are at it why not destroy indviduality aswell. We are not slaves to "sexual addiction." Also your populace would lack the way too relax and forget of the woes of society. The fact that there have been some negative things linked to sexual activity does not mean that the entire world of sexual enjoyment is not "pure evil." 'Tis a pitty that you lack the open minds that the rest of the nations have shown. Your next activity that removes freedoms and basic human rights from your people will be your last. This is your only warning.

~Phoenix Maxwell, Presidential Military Advisor

You only further your ignorance by announcing that you derive pleasure without chemical interactions.
Pleasure in and of itself is a chemical interaction. An orgasm is pleasure in it's purest form.
If you truely believe these problems were caused by the pleasure of Orgasm, then you must realise that all those things you claim to derive pleasure from will lead to the same result, and you will end up removing all pleasure from your populace.
Your people will loose the will to live, and we will laugh at you for it.

Be advised, any attempt whatsoever to coerce the People of Sumer to your disgusting thought process will lead to reprocussions upon your nation. And any further human rights viloations that you commit may lead us to remove your soviergnty.

- Head of State,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar

Official Response
Author: Committee V-0090, Chaired by Diplomacy-215
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You charge that the entire world of sexual involvement is not pure evil, though the frequency of negatives with which you stated this actually gave your declaration a contradictory meaning to that which you most likely intended. We would agree with you on that point - certainly there are benefits to what you call "sexual enjoyment." The society of Total Victory, however, has reached a point of advancement where these benefits are adequately provided by other means, placing the negative consequences of such a state into sharp relief. Our goal in this action is simply to remove those negatives as the positives can be supplied by other means. It is a matter of efficiency, not human rights.

The goal of Total Victory has always been to foster an absolute unity amongst its citizens - a state of perfect brotherhood and sisterhood that must transcend the bounds of individuals. You see the individual as supreme to the state, but we would say that the individual is a state. A nation of individuals is no more than a group of millions of individual states constantly divided against themselves - wracked by a Byzantine structure of alliance and intrigue, deception and dissension which only serves to atomize civilization. It is our goal that these states-within-states should all be brought into the same league, and we seek constantly to erase the boundaries that separate man from man. We had hoped for support in our noble endeavor, but it now appears that there are enormous chasms between us which must first be bridged before any civilized discourse can occur.

Ameracadia would be interested in obtaining this method. We are curious as to its possibilities for rehabilitating repeat sex offenders.

So would lead me to believe that your twisted idea of communism can actually work? Ha! A Laughable idea to say the least.
Your corrupted beliefs are offensive to my intellect.

Please, don't corrupt communism with your misguided thinking any longer. Communism has a hard enough time being pure without you screwing it up.

- Head of State,
Feild Marshal Peshtur Namtar

The Lady of Cats Keep reads the newspaper article with a look of utter amazement and no little disgust.

"Take away one of the mean to reach towards the divine? Take away one of the things that makes us what we are? They are condemning their people to an existance that will hold no pleasure, no joy. I gues that some people really aare nothing more than worker drones."

"Benefits provided by other means? Oh that is laughable, a complete exercise in self deception."

Official Response
Author: Committee V-0090, Chaired by Diplomacy-215
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Many accusations have been heaped upon us as a result of this scientific advancement, and many facts are being ignored. As we have already stated, this procedure is designed to increase the efficiency of our society by removing a potential source of problems with a painless and simple procedure. We have been accused of self-deception, yet it seems clear that our very accusors deceive themselves. They claim (or would claim, we surmise) that they have not fallen victim to sexual addiction, while declaring in the same breath that without this primitive "orgasm" that their lives would be entirely devoid of hope or meaning? Does that not seem itself to be a self-deception, a veritable act of near-perfect doublethink?

We have been accused of violating human rights; we ask, what rights have been violated? No human has lost the right to reproduce, and the right of a human to security and subsequently happiness has been increased, as this measure shall certainly eliminate all crimes of a sexual nature.

We have been accused of twisting Communism with "misguided thinking." Our society may share many traits with that of the Communist, but we are different. Communism is the notion that man will be complete if he is equal, corrupted by doddering inefficiency and an utterly inadequate understanding of human nature. We are pure. Pure Order, pure law, absolute freedom from chaos: these are the goals of our society, they are the means and ends which we deliver for our people, and which they help deliver for themselves.

We had hoped - naively, it appears - that the nations of the world would be more willing to accept the validity of our viewpoint, but it appears that this is a futile effort on our part. Nonetheless, the research is available for any nation who wishes to benefit from this knowledge, and will be provided to all who request it, free of charge.

The population of the Empire looks at the research, *BLINKS* and as one says...

"NO thank you, we're not stupid, nor are we sexual addicts...we just happen to enjoy our orgasms thank you and it hasn't affected our productivity or lifestyles negatively."

We applaud the actions of this state and wish to know homuch this technolagy will cost.

the halt of The dark ones work is truly impressive and temptations of the flesh have always been one of his greatest weapons may your name ring in heaven for this work of god.

The high priest

"If your people are so advanced and sophisticated that they are beyond the need for orgasms, why are you even remotely worried that it could be a corrupting influence unless you are... lying?

And just how many of your people have you asked about this procedure? You have no right mutilating people's bodies without their direct, personal permission."

Druid Damaar
Taerkasten Druidic Council

Official Response
Author: Committee V-0090, Chaired by Diplomacy-215
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We applaud the actions of this state and wish to know homuch this technolagy will cost.

the halt of The dark ones work is truly impressive and temptations of the flesh have always been one of his greatest weapons may your name ring in heaven for this work of god.

The high priest

Again, it is the unanimous position of the Victory Council and the entirety of Victorian Central Authority in accordance with the directives of the Lady Herself that the research in relation to Victory Directive 717 is to be freely distributed to any nation or person who requests it.

"If your people are so advanced and sophisticated that they are beyond the need for orgasms, why are you even remotely worried that it could be a corrupting influence unless you are... lying?

And just how many of your people have you asked about this procedure? You have no right mutilating people's bodies without their direct, personal permission."

Your first statement is a non-sequitur, there is no correlation between the need for something in a society and the ability of that thing to corrupt a society. Certainly, even the most primitive of human societies do not need narcotics, yet narcotics still present the possibility of a corrupting influence in that society. Or perhaps you can be approached on a basic biological level, devoid of philosophy. Humans do not need to ingest cholesterol from external sources, yet they do so, and they risk corrupting their bodies and making them unhealthy.

Or perhaps you can look at it this way. They are a number of things which are evil, but which are necessities and therefore exist despite their obvious malevolence because of that necessity. We have separated necessity from the evil - but the relationship between the two is not parasitic, and therefore the evil can survive alone though the necessity is gone from it. In fact, in the absence of a necessity, the evil becomes only more vile and inexcusable because it is not done in the purpose of genuine need, but in the purpose of selfishness.

The necessity has gone, and we seek simply to burn out the evil so that it may not be committed. Our goal is to shave away the excess, to free man from his self-defeating chains, and this is one further step in utter liberation from anarchy.

As for your allegations of mutilation, we can answer them simply. No mutilation occurs as a result of this process. It is extremely non-intrusive - more like getting a dental x-ray than neurosurgery. There will be no visible scarring or detriment to those who undergo the procedure. They shall know only freedom from another wasteful primal urge, and shall be glad that they can serve the Great Society in such a simple manner.

OOC: You are getting DANGEROUSLY close to god modding here by assuming everyone in your nation will think this way automaticly. Unless of course they're all brainwashed, which is a viloation of human rights.
Also, I think if you want to use Biology as a refrence, you should study it more, because we need to ingest cholesterol to survive.

OOC: You are getting DANGEROUSLY close to god modding here by assuming everyone in your nation will think this way automaticly. Unless of course they're all brainwashed, which is a viloation of human rights.
Also, I think if you want to use Biology as a refrence, you should study it more, because we need to ingest cholesterol to survive.

OOC:

It is not god modding, although I can understand why it is appearing to you as a red flag. I realize that if I said something along the lines of:

"Everyone in my nation agrees with this."

That is a godmod.

However, what I said is better simplified to:

"The government says everyone in my nation agrees with this."

Which is merely a statement of the government's opinion on what the people will and will not do.

Again, I understand why that could be interpreted as a near-godmod.

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It's been a while since Bio, but I do remember that the body creates cholesterol on its own without ingesting it from other sources... maybe my memory exaggerated a bit. Regardless, I'm going to leave the passage as it stands and chalk it up to the character of the Diplomatic Committee not understanding biology fully because they are diplomats, not biologists, rather than author error. Although author error is the actual cause.

Victory Directive 1091
Mandatory prescription of the V.D.-717 treatment shall be postponed until all persons who wish to actively demonstrate their loyalty by freely and without interference undertaking the procedure have done so.

First Patients Undergo Procedure
(c) Victorian International Syndication

In response to V.D.-1091, thousands of citizens flocked to medical centers across the country, eager to demonstrate their love of Lady Victory by willingly undergoing the procedure. Prominent among them were many Administrators of all ranks, who seemed to be in a general consensus that the best way to demonstrate the safety and benefit of the new procedure was for our foremost citizens to undergo it themselves. Medical Centers who were ordered to participate with V.D.-1091 actually had to begin turning away volunteers because there were simply too many. Today is a glorious day for Total Victory, as our citizens demonstrate that they know they must take an active role in improving society...

Secret IC:
These can be inferred, I believe, by reading between the lines of the newspaper report. Your nations would not know these things, but I'm putting them here so you can understand exactly what's going on. Unless, of course, you'd rather figure it out for yourself.

-Administrators suspect that they may be demoted if they do not volunteer. Demotion is not pleasant, especially for bottom-level Admin.

-Generally, Administrators are the most nationalistic anyway, and would be willing to do something like this.

-Thousands of people flocking to Medical Centers is a relatively small number considering that T.V. is now a nation of ten-plus million people.

-Not all hospitals are open to accept volunteers, thus making those that are more crowded and forcing them to turn people away.

-The government of T.V. has not focused a lot of attention on explaining what the procedure will actually do to the common Factory Workers. They mention it, but only between long... looooong speeches about the "Glory of Society" and "Victory over the Self." Administrators are aware of the ramifications, but, as I have said, they have other motivations.

-In general, the situation has been set up so that the news reports will reflect positively on the V.D.-717 procedure. The reports are true, but they are reflections of a manufactured circumstance.

OoC: I'm restarting this thread... only because I think it was one of the more interesting ones while it was going.

IC:

Victory Directive 1097

In accordance with the desire of the society of the Republic to further advance the civilized nature of the same, and seeing that not all citizens of the Republic are willing to accept the burden of purity without external impetus, the Central Authority of Total Victory hereby mandates that all citizens undergo the V.D.-717 procedure when issued their call to do so. Calls will be issued via telescreen each Sunday at three pm. Failure to undergo the procedure when called shall be a crime equitable with High Treason.

We are not human, but we find that your exultation at defeating the orgasm, which is said by many humans to be a very pleasurable experience or something that makes them feel good and is worth exulting over, to be rather ironic, if joy is not good, then the joy you have just felt is counter productive, we feel this stance is illogical, the hive questions the wisdom of this act and would like to discuss this at some length with your leaders.

Victory Directive 1091
Mandatory prescription of the V.D.-717 treatment shall be postponed until all persons who wish to actively demonstrate their loyalty by freely and without interference undertaking the procedure have done so.

First Patients Undergo Procedure
(c) Victorian International Syndication

In response to V.D.-1091, thousands of citizens flocked to medical centers across the country, eager to demonstrate their love of Lady Victory by willingly undergoing the procedure. Prominent among them were many Administrators of all ranks, who seemed to be in a general consensus that the best way to demonstrate the safety and benefit of the new procedure was for our foremost citizens to undergo it themselves. Medical Centers who were ordered to participate with V.D.-1091 actually had to begin turning away volunteers because there were simply too many. Today is a glorious day for Total Victory, as our citizens demonstrate that they know they must take an active role in improving society...

Secret IC:
These can be inferred, I believe, by reading between the lines of the newspaper report. Your nations would not know these things, but I'm putting them here so you can understand exactly what's going on. Unless, of course, you'd rather figure it out for yourself.

-Administrators suspect that they may be demoted if they do not volunteer. Demotion is not pleasant, especially for bottom-level Admin.

-Generally, Administrators are the most nationalistic anyway, and would be willing to do something like this.

-Thousands of people flocking to Medical Centers is a relatively small number considering that T.V. is now a nation of ten-plus million people.

-Not all hospitals are open to accept volunteers, thus making those that are more crowded and forcing them to turn people away.

-The government of T.V. has not focused a lot of attention on explaining what the procedure will actually do to the common Factory Workers. They mention it, but only between long... looooong speeches about the "Glory of Society" and "Victory over the Self." Administrators are aware of the ramifications, but, as I have said, they have other motivations.

-In general, the situation has been set up so that the news reports will reflect positively on the V.D.-717 procedure. The reports are true, but they are reflections of a manufactured circumstance.


Your leaders are truly illogical to pursue this course of action, the hive disapproves, we feel you threaten the base nature of humanity, thereby creating a disturbance where there was none, if thyeir base nature is modified we find that humans become unreasonable and violent, we advise against pursuing this course of action.

OoC: I'm restarting this thread... only because I think it was one of the more interesting ones while it was going.

IC:

Victory Directive 1097

In accordance with the desire of the society of the Republic to further advance the civilized nature of the same, and seeing that not all citizens of the Republic are willing to accept the burden of purity without external impetus, the Central Authority of Total Victory hereby mandates that all citizens undergo the V.D.-717 procedure when issued their call to do so. Calls will be issued via telescreen each Sunday at three pm. Failure to undergo the procedure when called shall be a crime equitable with High Treason.
OOC: I'm just replying to these in order for my benefit.

IC:

The queen finds your continued actiions dangerously illogical, we feel threatened by this and wish to send scientists to explain to you the reason that this plan is foolish. Will you allow us to send our top biologists and sociologists to explain the negative aspects of the plan that you are about to implement?

OOC:
Stop raising the dead!


This topic died a long time ago. Let dead men sleep.

OOC:
Stop raising the dead!


This topic died a long time ago. Let dead men sleep.

I think it's pretty interesting, not to mention the fact that the first post is from like a week ago, which is not all that long really.

The queen finds your continued actiions dangerously illogical, we feel threatened by this and wish to send scientists to explain to you the reason that this plan is foolish. Will you allow us to send our top biologists and sociologists to explain the negative aspects of the plan that you are about to implement?

Official Response
Author: Committee V-7466, Chaired by Trent Reliance
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Central Authority stands firm by its mandates and directives, regardless of international opposition. Your declarations are merely echoes of earlier statements, and make no progress over grounds where no progress has been made.

However, it is the position of the Republic that this procedure shall bear the test of scrutiny, and it is the confirmed position of the Ministry of Peace and Central Authority that a scientific delegation from Mini Miehm be permitted to debate the merits and weaknesses of this procedure. The size and makeup of this delegation must be approved by the Ministry of Peace before it will receive the right to land on our soil.

We await your response.
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OoC: Two weeks, actually. It's not that dead, and besides, I thought, at least, it was a fairly creative idea. I mean, it's not totally new, but I thought it was at least a bit refreshing, and I really wanted to play it out a bit more.

Personally I find this to be, if anything, the wrong direction; not only have you removed the mechanism for climax, but you have left the nueral infastructure of sexual pleasure intact, as well as doing nothing to supress or remove instinctual need.

Indeed, short sighted.

Instead, a simpler solution would be the chemical or electronic stimulation of this pleasure center, combined with the deadening of sexual nerve endings, with artifical stimulation rationed, and prehaps the making avalible of extra rations to encourage excellence in work performance - to a limit, of course, to gaurd against chemical or psycological adiction.

The procedure you have recently developed should instead be reserved for problem cases.

Any associated drop in reproduction rates can be readily countered by the chemical evocation of parenting instincts, either to perscribed individuals or by the addition of a dilouted compound to food or water supplies to moderatly increase net inclination to reproduce.

If interested, myself and my company would be willing to assist you in the persuit of the ends outlined above, or in similar endevors.

Signed:
Darwin Nesbit
Doktor Darwin Nesbit
Ethics Gradient Incorperated

Official Response
Author: Committee V-7466, Chaired by Trent Reliance
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Central Authority stands firm by its mandates and directives, regardless of international opposition. Your declarations are merely echoes of earlier statements, and make no progress over grounds where no progress has been made.

However, it is the position of the Republic that this procedure shall bear the test of scrutiny, and it is the confirmed position of the Ministry of Peace and Central Authority that a scientific delegation from Mini Miehm be permitted to debate the merits and weaknesses of this procedure. The size and makeup of this delegation must be approved by the Ministry of Peace before it will receive the right to land on our soil.

We await your response.
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OoC: Two weeks, actually. It's not that dead, and besides, I thought, at least, it was a fairly creative idea. I mean, it's not totally new, but I thought it was at least a bit refreshing, and I really wanted to play it out a bit more.


We propose to send a combined group of 30 synapse and mnemonic slivers to debate the logic of these actions with you, they will be accompanied to your nation by an escort of 10 muscle slivers and 20 winged slivers as a security detail, we do not appear as humans do and sometimes what humanity does not recognise it fears, what it fears it destroys, we have had this problem before and we trust that you will protect our scientists to the best of your ability, but we are always extremely careful concerning the lives of those in the hive, especially the science castes.

Personally I find this to be, if anything, the wrong direction; not only have you removed the mechanism for climax, but you have left the nueral infastructure of sexual pleasure intact, as well as doing nothing to supress or remove instinctual need.

Indeed, short sighted.

Instead, a simpler solution would be the chemical or electronic stimulation of this pleasure center, combined with the deadening of sexual nerve endings, with artifical stimulation rationed, and prehaps the making avalible of extra rations to encourage excellence in work performance - to a limit, of course, to gaurd against chemical or psycological adiction.

The procedure you have recently developed should instead be reserved for problem cases.

Any associated drop in reproduction rates can be readily countered by the chemical evocation of parenting instincts, either to perscribed individuals or by the addition of a dilouted compound to food or water supplies to moderatly increase net inclination to reproduce.

If interested, myself and my company would be willing to assist you in the persuit of the ends outlined above, or in similar endevors.

Signed:
Darwin Nesbit
Doktor Darwin Nesbit
Ethics Gradient Incorperated


Your approach appeals to our reasoning, reward those who perform well with pleasure and deny it to those who do not, our only concern is if this wil not become a brave new world, where pleasure is the only goal and all else is secondary.

Your approach appeals to our reasoning, reward those who perform well with pleasure and deny it to those who do not, our only concern is if this wil not become a brave new world, where pleasure is the only goal and all else is secondary.


Hence my noting that caps should be placed upon usage to gaurd against addiction - ideally well below such a threshold, to both compensate for individual varriance and allow room for reward.

Of course, from a certain perspective, pleasure already is the primary concern, the varriance only being how it is derived and to what end it is directed; serving the state, helping a friend, giving to charity - all these examples may seem selfless on the surface, but in almost all cases are commited because they make the person feel good(or prehaps less guilty) about themselves and/or their community. Admittedly, such factors are often not a part of the concious thought process, and many would honistly deny it if asked, but such is almost universally the underlying motivation for the act. Indeed, most acts.



Signed:
Darwin Nesbit
Doktor Darwin Nesbit
Ethics Gradient Incorperated

We propose to send a combined group of 30 synapse and mnemonic slivers to debate the logic of these actions with you, they will be accompanied to your nation by an escort of 10 muscle slivers and 20 winged slivers as a security detail, we do not appear as humans do and sometimes what humanity does not recognise it fears, what it fears it destroys, we have had this problem before and we trust that you will protect our scientists to the best of your ability, but we are always extremely careful concerning the lives of those in the hive, especially the science castes.

This is acceptable. We assure you that your scientists shall not be harmed by any citizen or servant of the Republic. Your port of entry is Port Main on the island of Central One. You will be meeted there by a police convoy who will escort your delegation to the Palace of Victory in Municipality-1 for the debate. If you should attempt to land any vessel of your nation outside of Port Main, or should your delegation fail to match the description your government has given us, or should you attempt to bring any contraband into the nation, or should you attempt to converse with citizens who are not cleared for contact with foreign nationals, your delegation will be regarded as hostile and arrested, extradicted, or eliminated. These security measures are necessary for the well-being of our own people as well as yours. Persons cleared for foreign contact will be denoted by a red badge on their yunies.

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The above is in accordance with Minipax Protocol Directives 11 and 31, and with Central Authority Mandate 617-88E.

OoC:
Curious, what are slivers?

This is acceptable. We assure you that your scientists shall not be harmed by any citizen or servant of the Republic. Your port of entry is Port Main on the island of Central One. You will be meeted there by a police convoy who will escort your delegation to the Palace of Victory in Municipality-1 for the debate. If you should attempt to land any vessel of your nation outside of Port Main, or should your delegation fail to match the description your government has given us, or should you attempt to bring any contraband into the nation, or should you attempt to converse with citizens who are not cleared for contact with foreign nationals, your delegation will be regarded as hostile and arrested, extradicted, or eliminated. These security measures are necessary for the well-being of our own people as well as yours. Persons cleared for foreign contact will be denoted by a red badge on their yunies.

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The above is in accordance with Minipax Protocol Directives 11 and 31, and with Central Authority Mandate 617-88E.

OoC:
Curious, what are slivers?

OOC: it won't matter much here but they're alot like the zerg from starcraft, except they have ability transferrance within a certain radius, usually about ten meters, since there won't be any combat it should be a non-issue about most of the abilities.

IC:

They are unable to arrive by any form of nautical travel, perhaps you could arrange for an area where they could land after their flight from the hive, other than that your conditions are satisfactory.

"Kriegorgrad is rarely a nation impressed but this catches the Oligarchy's eye, to triumph over the most decadent of human desires is truly a thing to be celebrated, not to be met with the fear and hate of a world terrified by the prospect of change. For those who wish to be marionettes, held by the strings of desire and lust, there shall be the more uncivilized nations in the world where they can survive, however, for those who have shared our epiphany, there will be the pillars of stability and progress.

Too long has the world been corrupted by the un-necessary taint of sexual desire, which has plagued otherwise moral nations.

Dear comrades, we stand by you in your efforts to rid the world of the intellectual and moral decay brought about by the cravings of the flesh."

From,

The Oligarch of Kriegorgrad, Comrade Leader Nikolai Fedorenkov

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

*OOCly pokes Total Victory*

*OOCly pokes Total Victory*

OoC: Sorry, been procrastinating on responding to yours, I'll get right on it...

IC:

Personally I find this to be, if anything, the wrong direction; not only have you removed the mechanism for climax, but you have left the nueral infastructure of sexual pleasure intact, as well as doing nothing to supress or remove instinctual need.

Indeed, short sighted.

Instead, a simpler solution would be the chemical or electronic stimulation of this pleasure center, combined with the deadening of sexual nerve endings, with artifical stimulation rationed, and prehaps the making avalible of extra rations to encourage excellence in work performance - to a limit, of course, to gaurd against chemical or psycological adiction.

The procedure you have recently developed should instead be reserved for problem cases.

Any associated drop in reproduction rates can be readily countered by the chemical evocation of parenting instincts, either to perscribed individuals or by the addition of a dilouted compound to food or water supplies to moderatly increase net inclination to reproduce.

If interested, myself and my company would be willing to assist you in the persuit of the ends outlined above, or in similar endevors.

Signed:
Darwin Nesbit
Doktor Darwin Nesbit
Ethics Gradient Incorperated

Official Response
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We assure you that your assertions regarding neural infrastructure have already been taken into account. By blocking the mechanism by which pleasure is derived from climax, neurological energy which would otherwise be wasted is saved in the brain to be used to more productive purposes. Sexual energy, with all its leaks plugged up, will be duly diverted to the purposes of civilization.

While your theories on electroerotic stimulation and pleasure rationing are intriguing, we believe it is only a partial solution to the problem. While it may reduce sexcrimes, it certainly does not solve the problems of low-level addiction and impaired efficiency that results from loosing this energy. We wholeheartedly believe that the V.D.-717 procedure will be superlatively adequate in fulfilling the needs of Victorian society and helping the Republic achieve an ideal, civilized state.

OoC: Other responses coming, later... I don't have time right now