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A new RP idea / concept!

Sharina
21-04-2005, 10:58
I have been thinking and trying to develop an idea for a RP over the last few weeks, and I have come up with a RP idea. I am not sure if this has been attempted before, but I'm seriously considering starting an epic RP of my Sharina nation. Not epic as in a Stephen King novel or the Star Wars two trilogies, but something much more than that.

In actuality, it will be an epic RP that will go from Stone Age all the way to Space Age and beyond. I got this insipiration from playing a Civilization III and Civilization: Call to Power game. I thought to myself, "What a better way to develop my nation, establish a real history and culture, and see how a fictional nation develops through 7,000+ years of history step-by-step?"

I envision the following... this Epic RP will cover no less than ten Epochs.

Epoch I = Ancient Age
Epoch II = Roman Age
Epoch III = Renassiance Age
Epoch IV = Industrial Age
Epoch V = Atomic Age
Epoch VI = Digital Age
Epoch VII = Nano Age
Epoch VIII = Synthetic Age
Epoch IX = Star Age
Epoch X = Diamond Age

I will operate on the priniciple that my civilization is on Earth, and not on some alien or fantasy planet. For all intents and purposes, the Earth that this RP will take place on is identical to our RL Earth regarding landmasses, locations, initial civilizations, etc. However there will be several differences that will be revealed as the RP progresses. Essentially, this "Sharina's Epic RP" Earth would be 95% similiar to our RL Earth.

All this aside, I would like to hear your guys opinions and feedback on whether I should go ahead with this big RP project. I would also like to hear any tips or suggestions on writing, structure, or ideas to "add" to this RP.

Again, I thought I'd try something new here, with actual progression throughout the ages, instead of jumping immediately into MT or FT like 99% of nations here do.

Thanks for reading this post and hopefully I can make a nice RP out of this. :)
Flaming Souls
21-04-2005, 11:27
First off, i think ye be daft. That is a lot of work. But then again...I am also a Civ III fanatic, so I know where you are coming from. I say go for it. I will help out any way that I can. TG me if you need help. I was gonna say more but i forgot it.
Tichang
21-04-2005, 14:52
Quite ambitious, are'nt you? Its a good idea, and I'll be checking it again.
The True Way of Alan
21-04-2005, 15:07
Wow! Bite off quite a bit there huh? I'd join if I knew it'd be done well.
Millitary might
21-04-2005, 15:38
I'm all for it. I was going to try to start one of these myself but for some reason i can't start a new topic. Oh well I'll help anyway I can. Oh an I get dibs on Greenland. ;)
Caladonn
21-04-2005, 19:20
This sounds very interesting. I am also into Civ 3. However, by the time most civilizations are in the space colonization age, they have conquered all others on their planet and are expanding. Thus, that might be hard if each rper controlled a nation on earth and then a bunch of planets :rolleyes: Despite that, I think this would be a great idea. I would be willing to leave Earth in the Space Age and look for a new area if needed, which might help with that problem. For the Earth Part, I'll take North America if I may :) One more thing, your names for the ages sound slightly cheezy.
Transnapastain
21-04-2005, 19:33
This sounds very interesting. I am also into Civ 3. However, by the time most civilizations are in the space colonization age, they have conquered all others on their planet and are expanding. Thus, that might be hard if each rper controlled a nation on earth and then a bunch of planets :rolleyes: Despite that, I think this would be a great idea. I would be willing to leave Earth in the Space Age and look for a new area if needed, which might help with that problem. For the Earth Part, I'll take North America if I may :) One more thing, your names for the ages sound slightly cheezy.

Be that as it may....most of the names she used are the real names of the ages society has progressed through....though, some people say we're in the plastic age...rather than the digital age...and, some of those names, save for the last few, and i think maybe the Roman age, also appear in Empire Earth

Kinda hard to give history a snazzy new name...it kinda already happened and can't be changed, only updated.

But, my 2 cents, if you'll have it. I think maybe, Synth age and nano age ought to be swapped. We have synthetic materials right now, and even limited forms of nanites, but we're closer to mastering the former as opposed to the latter...it'll be centuaries before Nan swarms appear :)

Also, if I may, what exactly do you mean by Diamond age? Is that the age of perfection, such as a perfect diamond, are you using it as a metaphor? Or do you mean literally, where everything is mind from OMGZ diamonds?
Flaming Souls
21-04-2005, 19:36
[QUOTE=Transnapastain]Be that as it may....most of the names he used are the real names of the ages socity has progressed through...QUOTE]


OOC: She...

Also, if i do join in, I will be more than happy to take some if not all of Europe :P
Transnapastain
21-04-2005, 19:40
[QUOTE=Transnapastain]Be that as it may....most of the names he used are the real names of the ages socity has progressed through...QUOTE]


OOC: She...

My apologies, I will correct that right away, thank you :)
Ato-Sara
21-04-2005, 20:07
OOC: Wow. Is this just for you or is it for a group of people?
Caladonn
21-04-2005, 21:31
True. I was mainly talking about the Roman Age and the Diamond Age. You might want to call the Roman Age the Classical Age instead, as there were many other civilizations around at that time anyway.
Caladonn
21-04-2005, 21:32
In retrospect, I may take Britain and Ireland instead of North America, since the Aztecs, Incas and Mayans seem to have done so badly in history.
The tokera
21-04-2005, 21:49
is there any chance I could join at a later date I would like to see how it all works first. Oh and if possible could you rp me when it begins.
Terai
21-04-2005, 22:03
OOC: Well, first , this isn't exactly new. Imperial Articas did something like this fall last year. (If you are wondering how I know that, I had an old account from July 04, but fergot to put it on vacation mode)

Also, I think I might join this. If you don't mind, I would like to be on a non-existant chain of islands in the mid atlantic (atlantis anyone?)
Sharina
21-04-2005, 22:06
Be that as it may....most of the names she used are the real names of the ages society has progressed through....though, some people say we're in the plastic age...rather than the digital age...and, some of those names, save for the last few, and i think maybe the Roman age, also appear in Empire Earth

Kinda hard to give history a snazzy new name...it kinda already happened and can't be changed, only updated.

But, my 2 cents, if you'll have it. I think maybe, Synth age and nano age ought to be swapped. We have synthetic materials right now, and even limited forms of nanites, but we're closer to mastering the former as opposed to the latter...it'll be centuaries before Nan swarms appear :)

Also, if I may, what exactly do you mean by Diamond age? Is that the age of perfection, such as a perfect diamond, are you using it as a metaphor? Or do you mean literally, where everything is mind from OMGZ diamonds?

Good questions, Transnapastain. I would be happy to answer them.

I do admit I borrowed a couple ideas from Empire Earth with the Ages, namely the Nano Age and Synthetic Age. The other Ages (except for future era ones) were named using common sense and general historical times.

I'll give you a brief overview of the future era Ages.

Digital Age = starts roughly at 2010 - 2020, and continues until first colony on Alpha Centauri.

Nano Age = Starts where Digital Age ends, and continues until first FTL drive is invented. This is when a lot of miniaturization occurs, like nano-wires, nano computer chips, nano tools, etc. However, there won't be nanite "turn lead into gold" or "turn sand into water" crap. The nano technology I had in mind would be microsopic machines that would create these miniature chips, wires, etc. as well as being used for medicine such as cleansing cancer cells or repair disabilities and damaged DNA strands. Nothing more than that.

Sythetic Age = Starts where Nano Age ends, and continues in an era of actual space exploration using FTL drives. Good comparison would be Star Trek or Babylon 5 era. This Age will end when contact with a major alien civilization occurs. This is also when more artifical material is developed, such as Artificial Intelligence, complex robotics, large assembly plants, synthetic materials such as synthetic gasoline / oil, synthetic water, etc. where I'll be able to extend my resources considerably. Much reduced reliance on "single-sources" of resources like 1 mine = all gold in empire... whereas in Synthetic Age, I'd be able to create synthetic gold, ending reliance on that 1 gold mine.

Star Age = Starts where Synthetic Age ends, and covers the process of mapping the galaxy, and develop all the new "colonies" and such. This would be similiar to somewhere in between Star Trek and Star Wars eras. However, in late Star Age, Sharina will possibly approach Star Wars level of development (galaxy-wide) with galaxy fully mapped. The Star Age will probably end with either one of two conditions. Condition 1 would be 98% - 100% of Milky Way galaxy mapped out. Condition 2 would be a victory over an major alien civilization (For example, if Klingons wiped out the Romulans or Federation in Star Trek).

Diamond Age = Picks up where Star Age left off. This is the era of full NS interaction with FT nations, where Sharina will interact with the multiudes of NS FT nations like Balrogga, Unified Sith, The Fedral Union, Kormanthor, etc. This era will also reflect Sharina's pursuit of a perfect society with structure like a crystal lattice in a diamond, as well as developing a resilient empire that is just as hard and tough as a diamond.



Hope this clears up questions you may have.

I have been thinking of adding another Epoch, and put it as the first Epoch, bumping all the others up. The new Epoch would be Stone Age, where I will start RP'ing as a caveman tribe of sorts. Then transit into Ancient Age, Roman Age, and so forth.

I have been trying to think how NS nations can participate in this RP project. Right now, I'm not sure how to fit NS nations into the "primitive" ages, namely Stone Age through Renassiance Age. I do know that it'd be great for NS nations to participate just at late Atomic Age or beginning of Digital Age (1990 - 2030 era) as I have an idea / plot device to make this possible at that point. FT eras are open to NS nations as well, with certain limits / restrictions (on tech levels and such, due to the nature of "OMG! My Tech has to be better than yours!!!!!" that happens a lot in FT).

However, I will continue to try to think how to include NS "players" into my other Ages while preserving the integrity of the RP and the plot arcs I have in mind.

Failing that, I will strive to make this RP a good read for NS people to enjoy, and hopefully give them ideas how to fully develop and flesh out their own nations. :)
CrossFire Land
21-04-2005, 22:22
Spiffy.. there should be a.. Colonial age or something. *is not so good at knowing ages* Hm.. Aliens? Which kind? Like the Blood thirsty bug like aliens.. or the really hightech aliens. Like Aliens and Predators. :cool:
Sharina
22-04-2005, 01:20
Bump!
Riegab
22-04-2005, 01:33
Sounds really interesting, I would love to do this, and one question would MT nations be able to do the more modern ages, how is this going to work?
Transnapastain
22-04-2005, 01:44
Firstly, I thank you for your kind responses.

Secondly, I do now understand, and, once again, I thank you, I think this sounds like a wonderful idea, something I’d be happy to participate in, if you’d have me. Although, I’d have to play a fictitious nation, and maybe create a puppet out of it when it’s done, I’m not ready for Trans to enter the “realm of FT”, just quite yet, and of course. I, of course, wasn’t meaning any offense when I suggested you used the names from Empire Earth, just simply noting for correlation, I don’t believe you were offended, but, in case, there you are.

Lastly, I really must apologize again for calling you He…. how chauvinistic of me, gah, I’m such a pig! :)

Please accept my sincere wishes of good luck with this endeavor.
Sharina
22-04-2005, 01:46
Sounds really interesting, I would love to do this, and one question would MT nations be able to do the more modern ages, how is this going to work?

Yes, MT nations will be able to participate in modern ages (late Atomic Age onwards).

You see, I have already established what will happen to Sharina and the Earth that this RP will be taking place in, between Stone Age (Epoch I) and early Industrial Age (Epoch V). There *just* might be an opporunity for NS players to participate in late Hellenstic / Roman Age (Epoch III) and the Renassiance Age (Epoch IV) due to something I've been planning on. However, I don't want to spoil anything story-wise, though.
Sharina
22-04-2005, 01:48
EDIT: Double Post. Gah!
Sharina
22-04-2005, 01:51
Firstly, I thank you for your kind responses.

Secondly, I do now understand, and, once again, I thank you, I think this sounds like a wonderful idea, something I’d be happy to participate in, if you’d have me. Although, I’d have to play a fictitious nation, and maybe create a puppet out of it when it’s done, I’m not ready for Trans to enter the “realm of FT”, just quite yet, and of course. I, of course, wasn’t meaning any offense when I suggested you used the names from Empire Earth, just simply noting for correlation, I don’t believe you were offended, but, in case, there you are.

Lastly, I really must apologize again for calling you He…. how chauvinistic of me, gah, I’m such a pig! :)

Please accept my sincere wishes of good luck with this endeavor.

No problem.

You'd do pretty well if you joined in when my RP reaches Atomic Age or Digital Age. Thus, you'd have a nice period of time to play around with various techs and settings. Atomic Age is basically MT, 1900 - 2020 era, while the Digital Age would be a nice post-MT era, running from roughly 2020 to 2100'ish. You can prepare for FT stuff by RP'ing during Digital Age, getting your feet wet in post-MT stuff. :)
Caealan
22-04-2005, 01:59
Suggestions and requests:

Firstly, I will begin with simple suggestions:

This will be extremely complicated. I hope you know what you're getting yourself into.

Will you be RPing too or acting as more of the DM of sorts..I've played both ways.

I like the idea of us actually developing our culture..I'm with you on this. You're definitely going to need to map out your ideas and cut-off points, such as if a nation gets overly powerful in earlier ages, make it more likely for others to cause a collapse..as it would be in RL.

Anyways, TG me if you want, I have ideas about this kind of thing all the time.


My request includes: The modern borders and everything inside of India. (Opium!)
Riegab
22-04-2005, 02:12
And oh, I wuold like Japan along with the Korean Peninsula and land extending north into the Heilongjiang Province of China and up into Russian Manchuria, that is all, please, if you can. If you look at a map it creats a nice little circle around the Sea of Japan. :)
Ato-Sara
22-04-2005, 09:16
Thinking about it could i use all lands that have the mekong river in them except China? (Laos, Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam)
Caladonn
22-04-2005, 13:50
I'd like to be in this rp from the start, as I haven't really had that many rps so I haven't had a lot of time to develop my nation's identity. Also, perhaps it would be better to have fictional nations in fictional areas. If some nations will make up islands it really amounts to the same thing.
Riegab
22-04-2005, 20:51
tag
CrossFire Land
22-04-2005, 21:18
*blinks* Spiffy stuff here.. *puts up a sign that hes not a good RPer so he would probally just make comments* *nods* I feel good.
Caealan
22-04-2005, 21:55
Am I confirmed?
Sharina
22-04-2005, 23:07
I'm currently working on the Prologue part, then afterwards the Stone Age.

I'm going to keep a list of people who are interested in participating in the RP, and once the RP reaches a certain point, then I will notify all the interested players o start their RP'ing and such.

In the meantime, try to think up some interesting backstories and special stuff about your nation, like "How did it develop?" or "What were your people doing before all the modern stuff?" That could help give you ideas how to develop a backstory for when this RP reaches the point where NS nations / players can actively get involved.

Do not worry, I am not forgetting any of you. :)
CrossFire Land
22-04-2005, 23:18
I 'spose you can add me to that list? Or make aspecial Comment adders list just for me.. Cause as I said at the sign.. *points to it* Im not a good RPer so I wont er.. RP probally..
Caladonn
23-04-2005, 23:48
Is there any chance magic would be allowed? Not godmodding magic in wars, of course, but some little stuff? If not, then that's OK.
The tokera
24-04-2005, 18:09
I have decided that I would like to participate in this if possible
Colerica
24-04-2005, 18:10
Holy Rise of Nations, Batman! :) Maybe if I create a new nation, I'll join up with this....
Vaitupu
24-04-2005, 18:41
sounds like a good idea...dibs on hawaii. lol
Sharina
24-04-2005, 19:35
Okay, I'm almost done putting the finishing touches on my "Prologue".

Here's what will happen... I will divide each Epoch into several chapters spanning 2 - 4 generations each. This will show how families grow up, have children, pass on legacy, etc. In addition I will do civilian and military RP's to reflect the advent of technology, culture, and development in all major areas of my Sharina civilization / nation.

I shall reveal some basic information for you guys, to give you a better idea of what will happen.

1.There will be 4 initial "peoples" at the beginning, in the Stone Age. They will be Sharinans, Europeans, Asians, and Africans.

2. I reach Epoch II, "Ancient Age", there will be 7 civilizations. Sharina, Egypt, China, Persians, Greeks, Celts, and Zulus.

3. Epoch III - IV, "Classical Age" and "Renassiance Age" will have 8 or more civilizations. Sharina, Egypt, China, Persia - India, Romans, Celts, and Zulus. The new additions will be the Vikings and Spain. I might include more civilizations due to a plot twist I do not want to reveal until it is the right time.

4. Epoch V onwards, "Industrial Age" and subsquent "Ages" will see both an increase or reduction in civilizations. Several civilizations will fall by the wayside, while new ones will spring up, like possibly America or NS nations in Atomic Age (Epoch VI) onwards due to another plot twist I have planned (but I don't want to divulge it as it will spoil the RP somewhat).


As this is going to be one of the most intensive RP's that I have done, and possibly one of the biggest RP's that will be around, I need time to write up and compose quality stuff. I intend to do a comprehensive RP of each Epoch, dedicated in seperate threads, such as...

Thread 1: Prologue
Thread 2: Epoch I
Thread 3: Epoch II
And so on.

This hints at the scale and depth that this RP will attempt to achieve. :)
Caladonn
24-04-2005, 22:32
Is there a possibility I could use my actual nation before the atomic age? Although I would like to follow this rp to the finish, I am more interested in the past-tech ages. If I can't use my actual nation, then I will rp as a historical one instead.
[NS:]Caealan
25-04-2005, 02:09
Sounds great.

Take it slow, this should be fun as long as you produce good stuff. Don't have to rush.
N Y C
25-04-2005, 02:18
I'd really, really, REALLY like to join. I'm a total civ3 junky. I could help a little as well. Can I be Isreal, Greece or Arabia? message me!
Sharina
25-04-2005, 14:23
Is there a possibility I could use my actual nation before the atomic age? Although I would like to follow this rp to the finish, I am more interested in the past-tech ages. If I can't use my actual nation, then I will rp as a historical one instead.

You will have to wait until the plot twist unfolds, then you will see why I've been saying that NS nations won't come into "major play" until Atomic Age. There's another plot twist in an earlier age that *might* allow NS nations to participate as their nations, not historical ones.

All you gotta do is to wait until that point, then you will understand 100%. Do not worry, you WILL be able to participate. :)
Xeraph
25-04-2005, 14:44
Existing nations could participate by simply altering the spelling of their name, and "evolve" it to the present spelling of the nation. Example, Zerf, Tserp, Zerraf, Xeraph....
Xeraph
25-04-2005, 14:46
Existing nations could participate by simply altering the spelling of their name, and "evolve" it to the present spelling of the nation. Example, Zerf, Tserp, Zerraf, Xeraph....

BTW, please count me in. Even though I have very limited time due to my job, I find this concept fascinating.
Sharina
25-04-2005, 16:20
BTW, please count me in. Even though I have very limited time due to my job, I find this concept fascinating.

No prob. I'll put your name down.

In the meantime, you and everybody else should try to start thinking of a backstory or some kind of pre-MT history. That way, when I reach the first plot-twist somewhere in Renassiance Age, and the second plot-twist somewhere in Atomic (MT) Age, you guys will be ready to jump in.

Basically.... 1st plot-twist = perhaps 2 - 4 NS nations can get involved. 2nd plot-twist = Many NS nations can get involved.

Hope that clears stuff up, as I really don't want to spoil anything. I want this to be a good story, with the surprise and "unexpected" elements intact. Without surprises and such, stories won't be as exciting to read and enjoy. :)
Caladonn
25-04-2005, 19:53
Quite true about the surprises thing. I'd really like to come in at the first plot twist. Before that I would be happy to play a historical civilization, or if I don't make it in at the first plot twist.
The tokera
27-04-2005, 21:26
would it be possible for me to come in arround Epoch III - IV onwards, if not I would like to do Epoch V onwards, it sounds alot more fun then what I thought it would be so I am really interested in developing my nation's history and generally doing a good RP. There are not many good rp's now but I think this will be one.
Sharina
27-04-2005, 21:37
would it be possible for me to come in arround Epoch III - IV onwards, if not I would like to do Epoch V onwards, it sounds alot more fun then what I thought it would be so I am really interested in developing my nation's history and generally doing a good RP. There are not many good rp's now but I think this will be one.

Okay, I put your name down.

Epoch III - IV Twist (4 NS nations max, maybe add more later)

1. Caladonn
2. The tokera

-----------------------------------

I have been lagging behind a bit, but hopefully I'll finally finish the Prologue "chapter" by Friday or this weekend. :)
The tokera
27-04-2005, 21:45
thank you very much. This should be fun!!
Caladonn
28-04-2005, 19:49
Yes, I thank you also. If possible, I will take the Europeans in Epoch I and the Greeks in Epoch II, until I can rp my nation.
Tomzilla
28-04-2005, 23:20
Can we have some type of list for who is what? I am really interested in this.
[NS:]Caealan
02-05-2005, 21:29
I'll join in the very beginning with Africans.
The Isle of Skye
02-05-2005, 21:34
I am SO in. (*tag*)

Also, give me the celts of britain and ireland.
Tomzilla
02-05-2005, 22:56
May I come in Epoch II, maybe around Japan?
Sharina
03-05-2005, 03:54
I would like to apologize to everybody here about not posting the Prologue this past weekend. I feel quite ill, with a blend of headaches, nausea, flu-like symptoms, and exhaustion.

However, I've been recovering bit by bit. I think I can resume my delayed work on the Prologue tomorrow or Wed. and resume full RP activity not just in this project, but other threads and RP's, by Friday if I keep recovering.

So please be patient. Keep this saying in mind...

"All good things come to one who waits."
The tokera
11-05-2005, 20:39
bump
The tokera
15-05-2005, 22:35
are we going to do this any time soon
Caladonn
16-05-2005, 01:22
I have the same question.
Sharina
17-05-2005, 04:13
OOC:

I'm starting to get my enthuaism for RP'ing back. I think I can start full-time RP'ing this week, as I've calmed down considerably since the whole Feline Catfish / Call to Power situation. Also, I've been playing some Civilization, which is always a good remedy for me whenever my RP'ing ambition goes into a slump.

I apologize for delaying this for as long as I have. It's just that when a lot of n00bishness goes down like with the FC / CTP issue, where veteran RP'ers act n00bish, it does make me lose my ambition and "faith" in NS.

I have dusted off my Prologue and am starting to proof-read it. If everything goes well, I can have it posted this week or weekend, assuming no more n00b-fests occur, or if no serious RL issues, or if I don't lose my RP ambition again. I can't make any promises, though. Life is unpredictable, yes?
Spooty
17-05-2005, 11:52
sounds interesting, anyone got greenland yet if not then, *licks greenland*
Xeraph
17-05-2005, 18:30
OOC:

I'm starting to get my enthuaism for RP'ing back. I think I can start full-time RP'ing this week, as I've calmed down considerably since the whole Feline Catfish / Call to Power situation. Also, I've been playing some Civilization, which is always a good remedy for me whenever my RP'ing ambition goes into a slump.

I apologize for delaying this for as long as I have. It's just that when a lot of n00bishness goes down like with the FC / CTP issue, where veteran RP'ers act n00bish, it does make me lose my ambition and "faith" in NS.

I have dusted off my Prologue and am starting to proof-read it. If everything goes well, I can have it posted this week or weekend, assuming no more n00b-fests occur, or if no serious RL issues, or if I don't lose my RP ambition again. I can't make any promises, though. Life is unpredictable, yes?


I can relate to the NooB situations. I have decided to IGNORE all noobs who do not act in accordance to their age/size. I simply don't have the time or patience to keep responding to posts about 3-6 week nations with 3 million troops and a space fleet.
Sharina
23-05-2005, 19:31
My prologue is finally up.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8934992#post8934992
Ato-Sara
28-05-2005, 20:03
what are we supposed to post in there?
The tokera
09-06-2005, 23:14
bump. I am not sure what you would like people to post on the prologue or where to start and what to do
Caladonn
19-06-2005, 23:13
Me neither.
The tokera
26-06-2005, 04:37
bump
Caladonn
06-07-2005, 18:17
Bump.
Lanquassia
06-07-2005, 18:36
Too late to get into this?
Sharina
07-07-2005, 00:37
I'm quite disappointed, as this project has apparently died out due to lack of interest. So I might have no choice but to do it solo or something. :(
Lanquassia
07-07-2005, 03:21
Its not lack of interest, Sharina, but rather the lack of a place to start.

If you will let me, I would also like to take a people along the same path as your own, either nearby or afar...
Caladonn
07-07-2005, 20:43
I agree with Lanquassia. I got the impression I was able to come in in Epoch III, meaning I had no place in the Prologue. However, if that is not the case, I will gladly join into it.
Caladonn
08-07-2005, 18:44
Bump