NationStates Jolt Archive

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Divisions of tanks, IFVs and infantry began rolling towards the border of China's poor, under developed and inferior neighbore. The new Empire of China cannot tolerate illicit substances being smuggled in from that part of Asia. It has become apparent that the Chinese will continue their war on drugs, despite a reshuffle of their regime.

"General sir, it we're about two clicks from the border, sir!" A junior officer repeated the information that was already given on Gen. Lim Chiang Wei's laptop. Gen. Lim is no stranger to the art of war, having been accredited with the successful reclamation of Hualien and had fought recently in the Second Chinese Civil War. He peered out the window of his IFV. The border with that lowlife country was just how he remembered it when he was posted here in the earlier years of his career.

(Tag for now. I expect that someone will update us on the progress made under Marimaia and the state of the new system in Burma...)

OOC: So who's RP'ing Burma or other parts of SE Asia at this stage? Please note that this is for the curbing of the drugs problem.

OOC: Well, no-one's RPing with SE Asia anymore, but here's how things looked after the Marimaian collapse....

Burma is a free democratic nation currently under the leadership of Aung San Suu Kyi, who has been able to finish her democratic reforms now that the Marimaians aren't watching her every move.

Laos and Cambodia are better-off than they are in RL mainly because they left Marimaia before anyone had a chance to stop them; as a result, they have fairly modern infrastructure and relatively strong economies.

Thailand has modern infrastructure and the basis for an excellent economy, except the NeoSuunist leadership took most of the state treasury with them when they bolted to Peru, so the Thai government is short on funds. However, those funds will be returned shortly as Shinseiki Tenno (aka Chiisu Suun/Toyama Chiisu) tries to atone for his past actions to prove that he is turning over a new leaf now that he is Emperor of the Yamato.

Malaysia has an Islamic democracy in place, with a new King; the old one was a Marimaian puppet and bolted to Peru with the funds he'd been funneling from the state. The country is still strong and prosperous though.

[OOC: Most of the ex-Marimaian states would still be using the old Marimaian military equipment, right?

Were the Burmese ever re-equipped as a potent force, or were their defence forces relatively restricted? Certainly numbers wont be as high as under their military junta.]

OOC: Oh, most definately. So it'll mostly be Chinese/Soviet tech.

The Marimaians assisted the Burmese in building an armed forces of 100,000; they wanted the Burmese to be a capable military power which could assist in Marimaian operations if the need arose. Most of the Burmese forces are geared towards jungle warfare and guerilla tactics; the Burmese learned from their mistakes during the Marimaian liberation.

The Sinoese buildup greatly alarms the Hindustani command, and Sino is called upon to halt it immediately. If Sino's border defenses are all they're cracked up to be, why are narcotics getting through?

A Sinoese invasion will, without a doubt, destroy all that Myanmar has gained so recently and ruin infrastructure. The democratic government that exists there will almost certainly be wiped out. For this reason, the Popular Congress announces that it will immediately dispatch the seagoing fleet and a contingent of Parachute Infantry to Myanmar. Already, Type 12 frigates have shown up in the Gulf of Martaban, and the Viraat is not far away either. A grand total of six Type 12 frigates, two Type 42 destroyers, two Delhi destroyers, and a sizable contingent of Sea Harriers will be deployed off the Burmese coast, and around 20,000 paras will be deployed in the country itself...with the government's permission of course. And there's no telling that the Burmese leadership would want them, because it might just escalate things.

Of course, this possible Sinoese invasion of Myanmar is waved in the face of the Igovian senate. The Popular Congress hints that perhaps those battlegroups would be put to better use warding off a Sinoese invasion of Myanmar or reversing the imperialization of ALGERIA instead of robbing France of a distant and tiny naval base. And if there's one thing that can be said about the HDFs, it is that they can't do much by themselves. Hindustan has to choose between feeding the population and other populations too or having a world-beater army. Without the economic might of Beth Gellert and Quinntonia or France, the best Hindustan can hope to do is put up a brave fight.

[OOC: A side note to the Chinas... currently Southeast Asia is a drug production centre, as Im pretty sure the NeoSuunists werent too concerned with banning such habits, but many of the criminal smuggling organisations there which would get it into China were likely associated with the regmes pet syndicates, and would have suffered when Marimaia fell.

Conversely, Russia has whole naval battlegroups which defect to its mafia. In essence, the drug problem for China doesnt end with the southern border, but in fact will almost certainly be even worse along the entirety of the China-Russian border.

Not that it matters if its a pretext for war. But if the goal is actually to counter drugs entering China, there are bigger holes to plug.

OOC: Have you punks ever heard of the Golden Triangle? Don't get me started on the defense around Tibet, but if the Chinese border with the SE Asian hellholes are really that secure, why would an assassin slip past and enter a refugee camp? Does BG smuggle so much narcotics into China that our move will hurt their economy? The North is still a mess, but in a couple of weeks, the chaos there will end. For now, it is easier to keep the druglords in the south at bay.

OOC: What's the situation like in Burma at the moment? Is it just looting and anrchy while a democratic government struggles to stay alive? Typical Asian experiments with democracy, huh.

OOC: I might of asked this already but whats AMW

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OOC: LRR, BG has deployed only about a third of its blue-water forces in counter-imperialist operations in the Pacific. There's plenty left to go around. Probably we can manage one other major deployment while still looking after vessels and protecting home waters. But, erm, we'd rather not rush it. If we'd gone to Algeria and then Sino invades S/E Asia... you know... bad.

The Commonwealth doesn't smuggle drugs, but individuals may choose to. They're free people, after all, and will do business with others if they feel like it. It'll only ever be relatively small scale, because if people spot that massive crops of drugs are going missing, well, people will generally take issue. No bulk, but some private citizens might in theory decide to sell their own shares over-seas, but really it seems likely to be far more trouble than it is worth. If you want a lot of Beddgelen drugs, you move to Beth Gellert or your community does an open, above-board trade deal with an Igovian Phalanstery.

OOC: Well, no-one's RPing with SE Asia anymore, but here's how things looked after the Marimaian collapse....

Burma is a free democratic nation currently under the leadership of Aung San Suu Kyi, who has been able to finish her democratic reforms now that the Marimaians aren't watching her every move.

Laos and Cambodia are better-off than they are in RL mainly because they left Marimaia before anyone had a chance to stop them; as a result, they have fairly modern infrastructure and relatively strong economies.

Thailand has modern infrastructure and the basis for an excellent economy, except the NeoSuunist leadership took most of the state treasury with them when they bolted to Peru, so the Thai government is short on funds. However, those funds will be returned shortly as Shinseiki Tenno (aka Chiisu Suun/Toyama Chiisu) tries to atone for his past actions to prove that he is turning over a new leaf now that he is Emperor of the Yamato.

Malaysia has an Islamic democracy in place, with a new King; the old one was a Marimaian puppet and bolted to Peru with the funds he'd been funneling from the state. The country is still strong and prosperous though.
((OOC: Ah, but if I remember correctly, you allowed the Russian Mafia to establish a significant base before you bolted. Correct?))

For the first time in known history, Versailles was making public calls for the Chinas (Xiagao and Sino) to shake off their fears and indulge in a massive invasion of the hated communist sub-continent.

M. de Vergennes would say "Surely the Celestial Emporer and valiant General Liu have what it takes to best the Igovians, even we in the west have listened to your 'speeches' on the subject."

"Create a front, no matter how small (if it must be so), to engage the Communist powers, and you shall have the friendship of His Most Christian Majesty forever."

OOC:
OOC: What's the situation like in Burma at the moment? Is it just looting and anrchy while a democratic government struggles to stay alive? Typical Asian experiments with democracy, huh.

Burma is a stable democratic nation with an expanding economy, albeit far from first world levels.

OOC: Have you punks ever heard of the Golden Triangle? Don't get me started on the defense around Tibet, but if the Chinese border with the SE Asian hellholes are really that secure, why would an assassin slip past and enter a refugee camp? Does BG smuggle so much narcotics into China that our move will hurt their economy? The North is still a mess, but in a couple of weeks, the chaos there will end. For now, it is easier to keep the druglords in the south at bay.

The point is not wether we've heard of the Golden Triangle, but wether it exists in an AMW context in the sme way as it does in reality. Which it doesnt. The states involved may produce, but the fact is that in AMW they are far better off economically, and currently far more willing to curb the activities of smugglers, than in RL. Conversely, Russia has been, since the collapse of the USSR, a mafia-dominated and unstable entity, until very recently, and even now organized crime is still highly influential in the nation. One of the key mafioski operations is the production and smuggling of drugs. Russia and China share a massive land border. If you add it all up, then you have an entirely different narcotics distribution web than exists in reality, one where the Golden Triangle no longer represents the major focus of drug production heading into the Middle Country.

((OOC: Ah, but if I remember correctly, you allowed the Russian Mafia to establish a significant base before you bolted. Correct?))

OOC: But, don't forget that the populations in the area were rather unhappy with the NeoSuunists and their associated organs, especially after all that rampant theft of public money. Criminal centres established with approval of the Marimaian regime would find their operations severely curtailed by crackdowns and lynchmobs in the name of whatever national identity has risen up in their particular areas.

For the first time in known history, Versailles was making public calls for the Chinas (Xiagao and Sino) to shake off their fears and indulge in a massive invasion of the hated communist sub-continent.

M. de Vergennes would say "Surely the Celestial Emporer and valiant General Liu have what it takes to best the Igovians, even we in the west have listened to your 'speeches' on the subject."

"Create a front, no matter how small (if it must be so), to engage the Communist powers, and you shall have the friendship of His Most Christian Majesty forever."

*Breaks down into tears, takes a swig of grapefruit juice, flips on the TV, cries again*

IC:

"This is a suicide mission! We cannot send our military into such an impossible endeavour! Once the first Sinoese tank crosses the border, we are 100 percent committed whether we like it or not!"

"We can't just let the whole world be swallowed up by the reactionary bloc! Look at Algeria...look at Morocco...what's next, Afghanistan? Nigeria? Lusaka? We have done our fair share of standing by and watching!"

"But who are we accountable to? I am sure that no member of this assembly denies the justification for our mission, but we do not possess the means! Hindustan is still very much a second-rate nation, economically and militarily, and Sino is at the top of the game in both these respects! To send our sons and daughters to war under such circumstances would be condemning them to death!"

"If we do nothing, we condemn the people of Myanmar to death! The Sinoese have no regard for life...we have seen that over and over! I propose we raise our presence in Myanmar to 100,000 troops, plus air and armor support."

"Aye, but how are we supposed to get them there? Sinoese forces could attack any day, and none of us can pretend that this country can move that kind of force by sea with any speed."

"We either recall our forces or reinforce them! What is it? Eh? If this assembly leaves Burma on its own, it is treason. If this assembly partially commits, it is doubly treason! I call a vote!"

While it will be close, the Popular Congress looks set to approve the relocation of the 2nd Army to Myanmar at the soonest possible date.

Meanwhile, the cream of the Hindustani seagoing navy heads towards Myanmar with all possible speed. While it isn't much, it is hoped that the prospect of a relatively easy incursion turning into a major war will stave off Sinoese aggression long enough for...erm...something?...to be done about it.

For the first time in known history, Versailles was making public calls for the Chinas (Xiagao and Sino) to shake off their fears and indulge in a massive invasion of the hated communist sub-continent.

M. de Vergennes would say "Surely the Celestial Emporer and valiant General Liu have what it takes to best the Igovians, even we in the west have listened to your 'speeches' on the subject."

"Create a front, no matter how small (if it must be so), to engage the Communist powers, and you shall have the friendship of His Most Christian Majesty forever."

Due to our military being largely crippled by months of civil war, we cannot risk an invasion of India. Nothing can be gained from an invasion of India except for communistic poverty and a people too weak to even run due to years of degradation by drugs. However, we are willing to support France with military aid, and advice against the global communist cancer that is crippling human civilization.

France was once the only NATO member that had relations with China, France had previously proliferated arms to China. De Gaulle was the first French leader to visit Mao's China. Throughout the last century, the relations between to the two nations have been well.

The Chinese are willing to repay the favor with shipments of arms to French Polynesia in order to help curb communist expansion there. Tanks, small arms, vehicles, medical aid, can be bought off the Chinese for a reasonably lowered price. Air and shipping routes must be kept open.

*Breaks down into tears, takes a swig of grapefruit juice, flips on the TV, cries again*

OOC: Goddamn women always cry! What did you see on the telly, Pom? Coronation Street?! All these years on NS, I've never seen someone so worked up OOCly over something as mundane as a game.

OOC : Good points Sino, but the New France really doesn't like us.

OOC : Good points Sino, but the New France really doesn't like us.

OOC: If that's his choice, then we can keep the shipments for ourselves. Where's Napoleon when you need him?

ECNN (Empire of China News Network):

The Sinoese Army carried out another day of building up fortifications along the border, the endless miles of barbed wire made it look like a front in WWI. Sandbags were quickly filled to make machinegun nests and truck after truck of concrete were brought in for the countless pillboxes and turret emplacements to be erected.

Analysts suggest some pictures taken could the first of the 1x or 2x200mm turrets that the former Junta once rumoured to own.

Imperial Palace, Port Royal, Roycelandia

"Your Majesty, we really should do something about this."

"Yes, you're right, Wiggles. I've thought long and hard about the situation in India, and I've reached a decision."

"And that is?"

"We're going to make popcorn, get the lads around, crack open some beers, and start a pool on who gets their ass kicked first, what tanks get taken out first, and so on."

Wiggles sighed.

"Are you still here, Wiggles? Get on with it, then...."

[OOC: Given the situation, I'm just going to make a post on behalf of Burma... if there are ay objections, it will be withdrawn, but it seems a sensible response from Rangoon]

The Burmese representative houses were consumed by worried debate. Sino, their northern neighbour and the regional superpower, was advancing troops towards the border... Hindustan was offering troops to assist in defence, perhaps a dangerous proposition in of itself. The Union was in trouble.

An elected representative from Burma is sent to talk with the Sinoese, offering full cooperation with China in securing the border against smuggling. If Sino would like to assist in training Burmese police teams in locating and removing production centres, such assistance would be most valuable in the effort.

Meanwhile the bulk of the Burmese military is redeployed northward, reinforcing and expanding border defence points. However, the majority remain detatched from static fortification, positions concealed within the jungles they know so well. Major military bases and airfields are evacuated, equipment and supplies scattered out to smaller and less easily located positions... Sino's assault against Xiaguo had not gone unnoticed by the international strategy media, and some lessons had been learned.

In response to the Hindustanis, Burma is nervous about provoking a Sinoese attack through accepting large numbers of troops. Rather, they hint, what Burma needs in subsidized equipment imports: MANPADS and ATGMs which can easily be transported about by jungle-based infantry.

The Chinese military is most willing to exchange views with their Burmese counterparts as drugs is a problem faced by both countries. The foreign ministry has issued strong statements refuting all foreign hysteria about the new united China as being an empire set to dominate the globe.

Having fought the struggle against the drugs trade for centuries, the Chinese are most willing to pass on their experience when it comes to curbing one of the greatest criminal acts in human history.

Beddgelens who find time to consider the Burmese situation are generally relieved to see negotiation and co-operation apparently waylaying the need for a major conflict.

That said, relief is equally great when considering that the Burmese have begun to prepare themselves for a defence anyway, as nobody wants to see them become Sinoese puppets. It is suggested that a single Beddgelen Dwrgi-T WIG vehicle may be employed to bear Indian arms quickly and safely, even if said arms are Hindustani in origin (Igovian war industry is already stretched by arguably inefficient over-preparation for a potential major conflict with the western imperialists, and to supply Beddgelen arms that may dry-up at any moment would probably only create a logistical conflict).

OOC: Goddamn women always cry! What did you see on the telly, Pom? Coronation Street?! All these years on NS, I've never seen someone so worked up OOCly over something as mundane as a game.

Sarcasm, see?

IC:

The Popular Congress is also relieved that a potential conflict with Sino has been averted, for the time being anyhow. In response to the Burmese government's call, staple Hindustani Army weapons systems are quickly loaded onto freighters and sent to Myanmar. AT. 43 ATGWs, perhaps some of the world's best anti-armor weapons owing to the fact that Hindustan has never been strong in the tank department, are sent in high quantities. The light R. 130 towed MRLs are also sent to Myanmar. The R. 130 is a major force multiplier, delivering the firepower of a battery of 105mm guns in a much more mobile and concealable package. The R. 130 can be towed (without rockets) by a single person, and two soldiers can easily handle it fully loaded. Six infantrymen can carry the launcher disassembled, allowing for easy transport in mountainous or muddy areas. Originally developed for use by troops stationed on the Afghani border to fight off Spetnaz (s.p.) incursions and to protect rebel supply bases during the Soviet involvement there, the R. 130 has become a very common weapon in the HDF arsenal and was combat-proven in Nepal.

While Hindustan relies primarily on imported British Starstreaks for MANPAD, numerous Blowpipes and Javelins are still stored in working order and can be had for all of no money! R. 122 self-propelled MRLs (Gradlars on an Islamabad Lorry & Construction 6x6 chassis) could be provided as well, along with 82mm automatic mortars, although it is not certain whether these two weapons systems would fit the Burmese military's requirements for man-portability.

The Popular Congress feels very silly for almost provoking a war and formally apologizes to both the Burmese and Sinoese for becoming involved before the situation was fully appreciated. The government also praises efforts to shut down criminal drug trafficking, and promises monetary aid to fund infrastructure development and alternative growing programs, much like those employed to fight FARC and AUC in Colombia.

Chinese leaders would like to make this clear that any Hindustani involvement in Burma will be seen as a threat to China, the Chinese are willing to help Burma resist any potential agression by the evil communists. We are deeply suspicious that LRR is trying the old Soviet trick of supplying a country arms, then making it another communist puppet.

ooc: Mariamaia collapsed? Man, where have I been?

Does this mean I can reclaim Malaysia and Indonesia? If so...

Singapore

General Wu inspected his forces. Three hundred MBTs made up the 1st Bonstocknian Armored Division, which was to be sent up the Malay Penninsula to recapture it for the Federal Republic. Along with it, the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Infantry Divisions, all the last reserves tiny Singapore could muster. But a new era was dawning. Bonstock would reclaim her empire.

At Singapore International Airport, a strike force was assembled. Strategic bombers that had been kept in storage were now reactivated, their existance being a violation of the treaties that ended the Asian Wars, but no matter. Four C-17s were ready and wainting to deliver the strike force that was to sieze the main causeway over the straits that seperated Singapore from Malaysia. The bombers, accompanied by strike fighters, prepared for take off. Their target: Kuala Lumpur, and all Malaysian command and control facilities.

General Wu gazed more upon his force. "Now is the day to redeem the ills of the old Bonstock." he thought. "Now is when we prove the blood of our forebearers was not shed in vain."

All that was needed now was the order. If all went well, perhaps all of the former Neo-Suunist Republic would belong to Bonstock before the Sinoese arrived. But for now, the guns were silent as young Dawn raised her fingertips of rose to signal a new day.

ooc: anyone own Malaysia or Indonesia?

OOC: I would like to see some specs and online links of R 130.

IC:

Gen. Lim looked through the mosquito netting at a window of his heavily camouflaged tent. The forecasts were right about the rain, some construction had to be halted.

Getting dressed quickly into a set of BDUs, not being able to wear the Iron Star medal he fought so hard for in Hualien dissappointed him slightly. A good deed is its own reward, he did not join the army to earn medals. He quickly reached for the 5.8mm PDW (personal defense weapon, similar to an SMG) added a fresh clip. The communists or some other subversive force may try to assassinate him, he's been too popular as his tactics were brutal, if not effective. Despite his location being 30km from the actual border, it annoyed him that an upcoming PR exercise will delay plans further.

OOC: Bonstock, could you start a new thread for that? This thread is for the Burma-Chinese drugs incident, and your invasion of Malaysia is somewhat irrelevant here.

OOC: I would like to see some specs and online links of R 130.


OCC: Jesus freaking Christ Sino! Its a 130mm MRL! Why on earth are you worried about it? Every tinpot dictatorship and its uncle can turn them out like rabbits. If you can have your supercarriers and whatnot, I don't see why you're all up in arms about a towed MRL. China in RL has a bunch of comparable systems.

But consider it more or less equivalent to the RPU/BM-14 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/rpu-14.htm) , ableit with 130mm rockets instead of 140mm, no chemical launching capability, range increased to 14 kilometers, not as heavy, and some other things here and there. Not a terribly advanced system, but it does the job. Easier to cart around than a 75mm mountain gun, anyhow.

IC:

In response to Sinoese threats, the Popular Congress withdraws all support for the Burmese regime.

"Eh, screw this. We don't need 'em," one delegate says on the subject of Sinoese foreign policy with regards to Myanmar.

OCC: Jesus freaking Christ Sino! Its a 130mm MRL! Why on earth are you worried about it? Every tinpot dictatorship and its uncle can turn them out like rabbits. If you can have your supercarriers and whatnot, I don't see why you're all up in arms about a towed MRL. China in RL has a bunch of comparable systems.

But consider it more or less equivalent to the RPU/BM-14 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/rpu-14.htm) , ableit with 130mm rockets instead of 140mm, no chemical launching capability, range increased to 14 kilometers, not as heavy, and some other things here and there. Not a terribly advanced system, but it does the job. Easier to cart around than a 75mm mountain gun, anyhow.


OOC: Control your emotions, kid. I was only interested because I wasn't familiar with Soviet artillery pieces.

ooc: anyone own Malaysia or Indonesia?

Sujava exists on Sumatra less Aceh, Java, and the Lesser Sundas plus Taminbar.
Malaysia is an Islamic democracy with a constitutional monarch (an NPC state), while former Marimaia has split into Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia, (again all three NPC) which are nationalist democracies, though no doubt politics is still influenced by military strongmen to some extent. Kalla's Islamic Republic of Indonesia (most of Borneo, Sulawesi/Celebes, Aceh, and the Moluccas less Taminbar) has also reverted to NPC status. Brunei is uder administration of United Elias, while Quinntonia operates a provisional administration on Papua.
As for the rest of the FRB, Maropian Coast is under Sinoese-Taiwanese administration, soon to be changed to the new united Chinese government, and the Sakishimas are under administration of the Ringist Shogunate (Oshima & Izu), though like the rest of Japan they are contested by the Japanese nationalist forces (Dai Nippon Koku).

((Sino, thanks for the offer. And Taiwan, the New France, or rather the Old, likes Asia...well, at least Asian monarchies. Taiwan, Sino, Xiagao: I have nothing against any of you, I consider y'all valuable trading partners. My beef is with the reds, who are trying to steal my colony. Anywho, All the Chinas have been invited to an emergency conference in Versailles, so far only Xiagao has taken up the offer. I invite you, cordially so, all to come.))

OOC: I only control the Emperor, the Air Force, and the Navy. Consider Yeh's trip to France to be representative of China as a whole.

OOC: personally i would just nuke you all...

OOC: personally i would just nuke you all...

OOC: Are you even invited? Bugger off, kid. What part of 'AMW Only' don't you understand?

OOC: Control your emotions, kid. I was only interested because I wasn't familiar with Soviet artillery pieces.

My emotions? I seem to remember you suggesting that Beth Gellert do certain...things...to a land rover. I can understand you disagreeing with Beth Gellert, but that, plus your previous comments about the nature of western education indicated some kind of deep-seated hatred that I frankly cannot understand.

But back to IC:

The HN's seagoing flotilla rapidly moves away from Myanmar as aid to that nation is cut off, for fear of provoking a Sinoese retaliation. The flotilla will likely be sent back to port to get it out of the way of the impending French entry into the region, and perhaps redeployed off of Indonesia in the near future to threaten the Bonstockians.

OOC: So are my troops allowed to come through and kick Bonsy's ass or what?

OOC: With Malaysia already under Bonsy's occupation, isn't it time for Chinese troops to roll in? I'm only awaiting for your approval.

[OOC: I read the thread, but I'm sooo confused right now. Sino, can you give me a quick re-cap on Chinese deployments and perhaps intentions, even if you have to TG them to me...with my little Moroccon field game over, I need to dig my teeth into some socialist.]

OOC: With Malaysia already under Bonsy's occupation, isn't it time for Chinese troops to roll in? I'm only awaiting for your approval.

OCC: Malaysia isn't yet under Bonstock's occupation. If he claims so, he's ignored the tens of thousands of troops concentrating just south of Kuala Lumpur, several times his army's size.

And I've given the green light for your involvement, although the Malay government has set some conditions, namely that you accept surrenders and turn over prisoners to Malaysian administration.

But you, Macabees...you and your French and Russian buddies...I've got my eye on you. One finger on Western Sahara and you're in for trouble, I promise you that.

But you, Macabees...you and your French and Russian buddies...I've got my eye on you. One finger on Western Sahara and you're in for trouble, I promise you that.

[OOC: :p We'll see about that. In any case, 700,000 Western Saharans with a history of revolt, regardless of counter-Islamic brainwashing aren't really a priority conquest in my book.]

And I've given the green light for your involvement, although the Malay government has set some conditions, namely that you accept surrenders and turn over prisoners to Malaysian administration.


OOC: Ha! Even better. Less strain on our military in non-combat duties.

[OOC: I read the thread, but I'm sooo confused right now. Sino, can you give me a quick re-cap on Chinese deployments and perhaps intentions, even if you have to TG them to me...with my little Moroccon field game over, I need to dig my teeth into some socialist.]

OOC: Originally the Chinese deployed their forces near the Burmese boder to prevent drug trafficking (a problem previously ignored due to social discontent back home), but with Singapore's possession by the spirit of the old Bonstock (an empire crushed in the last war), they have resorted to recreate their former empire. Bonstock's first target is Malaysia, other countries are also on the menu. The Chinese are particularly alarmed by the possibility of Bonstock gaining a monopoly in the Malaccas.