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Transmission to All Capitalist Countries
In this world, torn by constant war, I find some respite that the great majority of nations who are active are capitalist as well. Therefore, I have given all capitalist nations a public invitation to the capital of the Second Empire of the Golden Throne, Fedala, in order to discuss several topics considering and revolving around capitalism, and general anti-communism. In other words, we will center on a free market.

The topics of the First International Convention, or FINTERCON, will be:

Reduction of trade barriers between participant nations.
Establishment of an international bank, preferrably the use of the Macabee Universal Bank.
Common military goals.
Establishment of a union, bloc, or alliance in order to ensure policies. Consequently, whether it would be an active or defensive strategy would have to be argued out.


There will be several other topics of discussion, however, those four former points will be the major topics.

If you plan on attending please write back telling us of your plans. We will meet you in Fedala.

Attendees (12):
The Macabees - Emperor Jonach I
Risban - Emperor Robinson Antares Scorpius
The Merchant Guilds - Prince Septimus Augusta
Space Union - President Harsimran Mann
Ameracadia - President Warden
Red Tide2 - Supreme Commander Gregori Mckenna
The Real ALM - Abigail Kleinwald
The Parthians - Shah Khosru of Parthia
Umbrella Corp Inc - Osswald Spencer Junior
Tocrowkia - Grand Prince Richard
Everonia - President Viktor Troska
Farmina - Chancellor of Trade Andre Cirtus
Malkyer - Baron Julian Falkenberg

Onlookers:
Greater Slovakia - Monika Nestepna

[Note: The meeting will begin on Saturday]

Imperial Response
His majesty Emperor Robinson Antares Scorpius of the Grand Imperium of Risban shall attend. Likewise, Lord Richard Gaius Zorag, Lord William Plutus, and Lucius Thrantir, the Ministers of Industry, Finance, and Trade, shall attend with him.
The emperor has expressed interests primarily in reducing trade barriers, setting common military goals, and establishing a union/bloc/alliance to ensure policies. Both Lord Plutus and Lord Zorag have stated that they wish to discuss in further detail the establishment of a world bank.

-Alexander Perkins, Imperial High Minister for Foreign Affairs

We would be interested in the reduction of trade barrier part of the ICCS, but the other portions are against national policy.

We would be interested in the reduction of trade barrier part of the ICCS, but the other portions are against national policy.

We are sad to hear this. Perhaps at another time your national policy will alter in order to meet the needs for FINTERCON.

(OOC: Someone's afraid of the Revolution.. Lol.)

The Emperor's son and heir will be attending (Prince Septimus Augusta).

-Random Guild Bureaucrat

Official Statement

We are glad to hear that The Macabees are hosting this wonderful event. The Federal Republic of Space Union will attend this meeting as both of our countries have similar foreign policies. President Harsimran Mann and Secetary of State Raja are representing the interests of Space Union. We hope to build a strong alliance and friendship among the capitalist nations.

Secret IC:

We regret to inform you that we are unable to attend this conference. The Emporer's Nephew's Birthday is this day and the Emporer is having a State Dinner for the child.


Our appologies for not attending

Secret IC:

We regret to inform you that we are unable to attend this conference. The Emporer's Nephew's Birthday is this day and the Emporer is having a State Dinner for the child.


Our appologies for not attending

We must express our sadness at your choice of not attending. However, we hope that you will be able to at later conferences should they arise. Regardless, we thank you for your show of support for at least considering.

[OOC: All others, you have been added to the list.]

President Warden will attend and looks forward to discussing the issues on the agenda.
-Angus Drake, Minister of Foreign Affairs

Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Supreme Commander Gregori Mckenna will come to the meeting. We hold free market economy in the highest regards."
End Statement

[OOC: McKenna... Cauldron is a great book.]

OOC:Actually... McKenna is my RL last name. What is Cauldron?

OOC:Actually... McKenna is my RL last name. What is Cauldron?

[OOC: Oh, well Cauldron is a techno-thriller concerning a Franco-Germanic invasion of the poorer countries of Europe to bring them into their economic field of influence since the world is going through a hard depression...of course, the U.S. has to be included and of course they kick ass becuase U.S. is 1337...but regardless of patriotism, it's a great war.]

Six nations have agreed to meet. Is this all we can expect? A world that we thought free seems as if it has been shackled! Who else meets us at Fedala? Who else will work for a brighter future? - Jonach I

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We would love to attend this conference but we are against any policy of anti-communism. As you know, we have numerous communist allies and can tell you from experience that ALL of them are friendly towards us despite our ideological differences. There is no need for anti-communist beliefs anywhere at any time, all that will do is split the world further apart, when really, we should be growing closer together regardless of our various differences.

Therefore, as it appears any capitalist nation against anti-communist policy generation is no longer extended the invitation to attend, we wish the best of luck to the delegates involved.

Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

We will send a delegation. Abigail Kleinwald will represent the RSA/CES Alliance.

Jake Featherston IV

If permitted, the Shah himself would like to attend in the name of protecting Capitalism from leftist agression.

-Foreign Minister Piruz Savadkouhi

We would love to attend this conference but we are against any policy of anti-communism. As you know, we have numerous communist allies and can tell you from experience that ALL of them are friendly towards us despite our ideological differences. There is no need for anti-communist beliefs anywhere at any time, all that will do is split the world further apart, when really, we should be growing closer together regardless of our various differences.

Therefore, as it appears any capitalist nation against anti-communist policy generation is no longer extended the invitation to attend, we wish the best of luck to the delegates involved.

Timothy Ell
Prime Minister of Pacitalia

Such ideology cannot be disagreed upon, even by the most fervent right-wingers. However, Communism has a history of imposing itself on the unwilling, especially those with deep rooted Capitalist beliefs, and it will be the job of this conference to forge the policy which will guide the Capitalist world for the next decade, or even the next hundred years. So while you may co-exist with the Communist, some of us find said act impossible. And so, you must understand our position, and the reasoning behind this conference. It is, without question, our self defense.

[OOC: All others who have signed up have been added to the list.]

OOC:

I might be interested in joining, but I'm not quite sure if I'll be allowed.

You see, my government is a Technocracy, which is a 21st+ century type of government that focuses on science, logic, and productivity. A Technocracy borrows a bit from democracy, socialism, and ogilarchy, but at the same time, is not any of them.

A Technocracy basically promotes industry, productivity, and science. I am not sure if this would fit in with a "Capitalist" type of alliance / "support-system" like the one you are suggesting, Macabees.

OOC:

I might be interested in joining, but I'm not quite sure if I'll be allowed.

You see, my government is a Technocracy, which is a 21st+ century type of government that focuses on science, logic, and productivity. A Technocracy borrows a bit from democracy, socialism, and ogilarchy, but at the same time, is not any of them.

A Technocracy basically promotes industry, productivity, and science. I am not sure if this would fit in with a "Capitalist" type of alliance / "support-system" like the one you are suggesting, Macabees.

[OOC: As long as there's a chance for a reduction of, or perhaps no trade barriers, and as long as there's little to no collectivization.]

The United Kingdom of Azazia wholeheartedly endorses the ideals of responsible free-trade in the international marketplace. The Kingdom boasts a robust economy through its mixed market strategies and subsidization of certain key strategic industries, most notably defence. While we support most of the goals of FINTERCON, my government sides with our esteemed colleagues in Pacitalia in their opposition to “anti-communist ideology.”

The world situation, as most surely all of us are aware, is fraught with nations bent on waging war for simple ideological differences in the “interests” of citizens not of their state. The position of the Kingdom’s government, which notably includes a significant Communist Party minority in Parliament, remains to bring the world together through peace, inclusion, and understanding. Attempts to exclude individuals and generalize history appear nothing short of mere propaganda. History is also replete with stories of war and conquest with capitalist-based nations imposing their own will upon centrally-planned states.

In short, the United Kingdom wishes the participants – especially our friends in Fedala – and the organization the best and recognizes the differences in philosophies. We maintain, however, the hope that said parties will come to recognize that co-existence and cooperation are essential elements of a world system that fosters peace and prosperity for all – regardless of flag and ideology.

Emily Deveraux
Minister of Foreign Affairs

Osswald Spencer Junior would like to attend.

If allowed, The Grand Prince Richard would like to attend.

Both of you have been added to the list of attendees.

The Authoritative Republic of Everonia wishes to meet our fellow capitalists at this meeting. President Viktor Troska wishes to attend this great meeting, with your consent Macabees.

Of course you may attend. No capitalist brother shall be turned away!

Would people feel more comfortable if instead of a bloc designed to stop communist aggression, instead an organization which set trade barriers, set prices, and decided on member wide economic issues be formed? It would still be an alliance/bloc type thing, only less radical, and it would allow any number of nations to join. It would also serve as a mini-UN type alliance.

I would even think that Communist nations could join, as long as they agree to reduce trade barriers, and go by the laws emplaced by the organization. However, they are barred from the talks, since the talks are strictly capitalist.

I have been selected to attend in the name of the Empire, if the hosts would so consent.

Andre Cirtus
Chancellor for Trade

I have been selected to attend in the name of the Empire, if the hosts would so consent.

Andre Cirtus
Chancellor for Trade

Of course! Great to have you on board!

Conference thread here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8714282#post8714282) since I might not be on Saturday.

[OOC: Mac, this is Novikov's replacement, lookign to get back in the swing of things.]

IC:

Ahojte,

As some may have noted, sweeping changes have been going through Greater Slovakia. While currently Socialist, the proposal has been made to privatize industry and many in our Government stand to gain from the move to Capitalism.

As such, the Slovak people are seeking to open new economic and political avenues. It is felt that the FINTERCON is a good place to start. Therefore, it is requested that Monika Nestepna, Minister of the Economy, be allowed to attend a special diplomat and spectator. As a currently non-Capitalist nation, we would request no voting privileges, simply the right to propose issues regarding foreign involvement (namely private industry) in Greater Slovakia's economy, particularly in the mining sector. If additional information is needed, we would be happy to provide the FINTERCON with it.

We also feel that limited involvement by some Socialist and/or Communist nations would serve to benefit the FINTERCON, as it would establish credibility of member nations as willing to be involved in trade, and serve to better open the doors of Socialist and/or Communist nations which are otherwise isolated from their Capitalist trading partners.

If this request is at all possible, we encourage the admission of Ms. Nestepna. We write in hopes of cooperation.

Yours,
Ministerstvo-Zahranicny Vadovicky Alexej

Monika Nestepna is indeed allowed to come to the conference as an onlooker. Moreover, we do not rule out trade with Communist nations, since that, in a sense, would be a barrier to trade. But in any case, she has been confirmed.

[OOC: Thanks.]

IC:

Ms. Nestepna wishes to extend her deepest thanks at being allowed the honor of attending FINTERCON. We hope that all goes well at the confrence, and assure you that Greater Slovakia is deeply interested in expanding free trade and privatizing industry. We only can hope this owrks to the beneift of all nations involved.

-Ministerstvo-Zahranicny

[OOC: As long as there's a chance for a reduction of, or perhaps no trade barriers, and as long as there's little to no collectivization.]

I'm not sure about the collectivization part (I'm not communist or socialist like USSR, Cuba, or China, but dunno if Technocracy would fall into your collectivization category). I'd like to TG ya about this, try to figure that out instead of hjacking this thread. :)

I'm not sure about the collectivization part (I'm not communist or socialist like USSR, Cuba, or China, but dunno if Technocracy would fall into your collectivization category). I'd like to TG ya about this, try to figure that out instead of hjacking this thread. :)

[OOC:Use the thread..for the next days I'll only be able to check at school, so the main site is blocked.]

[OOC:Use the thread..for the next days I'll only be able to check at school, so the main site is blocked.]

No prob. Take a look at this website, it has some info about what a Technocracy is. :)

http://www.technocracy.ca/simp/begin.htm

Unfortunately, Dovania is against the use of all military force.

His Majesty The King of Dovania.

OOC: MIND IF I POP IN? whoops! left Caps on!

OOC: MIND IF I POP IN? whoops! left Caps on!

Of course not.

And Sharina, of what I read it seems 'democratic' and 'capitalist' enough for me, and actually incorporates several ideas of free trade. So, you're free to join the conference.

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Although the list has enlarged, we are still considerably low on attenders. Do no more free trade lovers exist? Have we all surrendered to Communism?"

We wish to send Baron Julian Falkenberg to attend the Convention, if the Macabean hosts approve. It is good to see a bloc forming against the communist threat.

-Emperor Dayan I

We wish to send Baron Julian Falkenberg to attend the Convention, if the Macabean hosts approve. It is good to see a bloc forming against the communist threat.

-Emperor Dayan I

Of course!

*walks in and places Cameras where the meeting will take place and runs away* *goes to his Mansion and watches the TVs* Being a Dictator is hard work, eh?

Of course not.

And Sharina, of what I read it seems 'democratic' and 'capitalist' enough for me, and actually incorporates several ideas of free trade. So, you're free to join the conference.

Aiight, Macabees. I'm game. :)

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Comminque to Macabees:

The Sharina Technocracy is interested in sending a delegate to this conference, in hopes of promoting progress and trade. Progress is paramount to any viable development of a civilization, and progress comes through competition.

We shall be sending our Director of Economics, Dr. Praviel Tres'vac to this conference. He has been credited with developing the concept behind the energy Diamond credit, moving Sharina into a new age of economics which do not rely on outdated and antiquated paper currency systems.

Live well and prosper.
~President Mina Veristek

Aiight, Macabees. I'm game. :)


Two can play at that game!

Aight dawg, meet me at my pad pronto vato.

We would be most honored to attend this event. However, because we are not on good terms with one of the nations attending, I will attend in King Jedo's stead.

~Viceroy Hadden Clain~

"Credonia a world renowned capitalist and most democratic nation would like to be represented at this event. Due to developing conflicts around the world President Sutton would like to send myself, in his place to represent the United States of Credonia. We eagerly await your response."

Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia

When will this conference start?

After hearing your gracious invitation,

Four representatives of state (hand-picked, do not worry about them) will be attending in tow. They will have constant communications with us at home to make sure the decided items are in favor or not.

Please accept them, we cannot wait to see results.

Everyone who has passed on conformation of their attendance is welcomed to the Palace at which this meeting will be held.

[OOC: You guys can just start posting on the conference thread. Assume you're already there.]

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Where's the Conference thread, if its not this thread? :confused:

Where's the Conference thread, if its not this thread? :confused:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413624

Has Credonia been cleared to attend the conference?

Has Credonia been cleared to attend the conference?
Yes.