NationStates Jolt Archive

This will be the thread where all the information pertaining to the World War will take place. All threads pertaining to the War MUST be posted here or else it will NOT count towards the war.

Three parameters regarding the war:

1. Because of the activity expected in the war, I will not be able to scourage every thread to make sure that everything is running good. If you have any disputes, please try to resolve it amongst yourselves. Only if you can't, come to me (and please link to the evidence yourselves) and I'll rule on it.

2. All participants (i.e., those marked as "belligerent") MUST post their total armed forces in order to be able to take part in the war. This is to prevent "phantom armies" from popping up.

3. Finally, it is solely your responsibility to ensure you know what's going on. If someone just bombed your capital (for example) in one thread that you didn't get a chance to read, don't complain to me about it because it's not my responsibility to make sure you know every last detail (aside from posting the links here). In short, whatever you don't know is your problem, not mine.

Addendum to Rule 3: It has come to my attention that certain parties have been 'ignoring' legitimate and legal invasions without any justification whatsoever. Like on Earth II, this is not allowed. Therefore, I am declaring from here on in, that if someone launches an invasion into a fellow participant's land, the defender shall have one (1) week to respond before the invaders can take their land without any consequences, unless the defender gives a legitimate reason for their abscense (e.g., business trip, vacation, school project, etc.) BEFORE the abscense begins.

Other than that, happy posting, and don't blow each other up too much ;)

Threads:

Earth II Defence Sheet (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412071)

Tale of the Time: Ancient Secrets Found in Yucatán... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409829)

Invasion of Morocco. The real one Earth II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411459)

Testing the armory (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)

War on Duke Barol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8724969#post8724969)

Brothers in Arms (Layartebian Civil War) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414243)

Blood in the Snow (European Theater) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414044)

World War, invading Iran and United Arabic Emirates (EARTH II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414847)

Operation-Long March (http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415164)

A Taking of Nigeria (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415287) Duke Barol vs. Rebels

Taking of Angola (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415276) Duke Barol & Greater Valia vs. Rebels

The Newest Toys: Cotland Tests Missiles (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8819193#post8819193)

A Coo' Coup- Attn North Germania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8809790#post8809790)

Operation Tropical Exercise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417355) (SW Caribbean)

Invasion of Mauritania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418116)

The Sultanate Grows (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419234) (Invasion of the Rest of Iran)

Carthaginian Invasion of Kroando (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8882264)

Operation Stahlfaust (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421365) (North Germania annexes Slovakia)

Operation Dart (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423309) (Hawdawgian Invasion of Hawaii)

Celtayoshi Deploys (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425347)

Greenland annexation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425387)

Nerotikan land annexation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425392)

Attack on Checkpoint #7330 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9069384) (attack on Squornshelous)

tag

Worlds largest TAG

I'm durnkj.

TAG your it

I'm durnkj.

Stay away from the missile launch buttons until you sober up a little NG.

A definite TAG.

Tag

A bumping we will go, a bumping we will go, high ho a derio, a bumping we will go.

Some threads for you to help out.

Tale of the Time: Ancient Secrets Found in Yucatán... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409829)
Invasion of Morocco. The real one Earth II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411459)
Testing the armory (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)
Squornshelan Submarine Disaster! (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409742)

I'm going to have to get that submarine searching done quicker.

Some threads for you to help out.

Tale of the Time: Ancient Secrets Found in Yucatán... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409829)
Invasion of Morocco. The real one Earth II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411459)
Testing the armory (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)
Squornshelan Submarine Disaster! (Earth II) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409742)

I'll put those on the main post. Thanks.

I'll put those on the main post. Thanks.

I'm not sure if they have other ones going on, that's all that's been posted in the main thread. I told them over there to post here to make it easy on you.

Bah, why aren't the Belligerent 1 nations doing anything, this is turning out like WW2

Bah, why aren't the Belligerent 1 nations doing anything, this is turning out like WW2

Have hostilities even stated? I wasnt aware! And since im still working on my military it will be awhile before I do anything.

Have hostilities even stated? I wasnt aware! And since im still working on my military it will be awhile before I do anything.

Yeah dude we've announced it like 4 times that World War is in session.

Yeah dude we've announced it like 4 times that World War is in session.

Im sorry, my head is so far up my ass I didnt hear what you just said.

Bah, why aren't the Belligerent 1 nations doing anything, this is turning out like WW2
Give me a few minutes and I'll invade someone....

EDIT: I really want Leningrad Oblast, but the fella who's holding it (Zeeeland) is pretty new.... Can I take him on? I really want some feedback here too please.

I'm still writing up my armed forces crap. It's taking too damn long.

I'm still writing up my armed forces crap. It's taking too damn long.

Me too... : /

I'm still writing up my armed forces crap. It's taking too damn long.

Me too... :

Me three. I'd have invaded half the world by now but organizing my military is an arduous task.

Me three. I'd have invaded half the world by now but organizing my military is an arduous task.

Yeah, look at the thread where im looking for help... this is turning out to be a nightmare.

Give me a few minutes and I'll invade someone....

EDIT: I really want Leningrad Oblast, but the fella who's holding it (Zeeeland) is pretty new.... Can I take him on? I really want some feedback here too please.

I say go ahead. By the looks of it, I'll be the only nation that can't be touched.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8724969#post8724969

^^ War on Duke Barol.

Brothers in Arms (Layartebian Civil War) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414008)

Blood in the Snow (European Theater) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414044)



OOC: OK there it is.

-Hawdawg

Hmm I canned the Brothers in Arms thing. I'm going to do my original idea. See, unfortunately, for a revolution to work both the elites & the army have to cease their support of the regime. The army ceasing support of the Emperor is pretty unlikely. The elites, maybe...

This is the new, original, Brothers in Arms...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414243

Yeah, but the elites can then get the army to follow them- they've got enough money.

Yeah, but the elites can then get the army to follow them- they've got enough money.

They do, especially the ones in Layarteb. But my army isn't corrupt to be honest. There isn't any reason to be really. They get paid well, they get bonus's, they live better than most of the citizens actually. That and it's basically indoctrinated in them since they are 0 that they have to serve two years, they get out, and get any job or lifestyle they want.

They do, especially the ones in Layarteb. But my army isn't corrupt to be honest. There isn't any reason to be really. They get paid well, they get bonus's, they live better than most of the citizens actually. That and it's basically indoctrinated in them since they are 0 that they have to serve two years, they get out, and get any job or lifestyle they want.

Let me just say that if the Roman Army can switch allegiances easily (as they did under Julius Caesar and Sulla), then any army can. It may be *harder* but it's still possible.

Let me just say that if the Roman Army can switch allegiances easily (as they did under Julius Caesar and Sulla), then any army can. It may be *harder* but it's still possible.

Even in uber-corrupt Russia, the army is still on the side of Putin...

Even in uber-corrupt Russia, the army is still on the side of Putin...

Just a matter of time- and the right price. Trust me, there's no such thing as a "perfect" situation- someone else can always sweeten the deal better than what they had before. In your case, if the elites can somehow convince the Army that the Emperor is a fraud (because, say, so many people hate him), they just *might* get them on their side. It may be difficult, but it's not impossible.

Just a matter of time- and the right price. Trust me, there's no such thing as a "perfect" situation- someone else can always sweeten the deal better than what they had before. In your case, if the elites can somehow convince the Army that the Emperor is a fraud (because, say, so many people hate him), they just *might* get them on their side. It may be difficult, but it's not impossible.

If so it would require so much build-up and so much time that it's not funny. I'd be writing the build-up to it for the next RL month to be honest. It'd be like Iran & Nicaragua combined in terms of timespan.

Even in uber-corrupt Russia, the army is still on the side of Putin...

Russia's a mess. Seriously, it's pretty much a dictatorship nowadays. And yet, America still gets all the European hatred and venom. Curious.

Russia's a mess. Seriously, it's pretty much a dictatorship nowadays. And yet, America still gets all the European hatred and venom. Curious.

Ah excuse me but i couldn't help but notice your remark and since i am a resident and citizen of Russian Federation i must tell you that you are wrong, it is in no way a dictatorship. I mean gov't doesn't really affect my everyday life in anyway, and as for the news, well NTV which gave birth to a lot of controversy then the central gov't took away the stations independence and tried to arrest its previous owner, NTV is yelling at the gov't just about as much as it had before, not much has changed on that channel exept that notorious Jew, whats his name? He left my all time favorite late night TV show "Tushite Svet" to make a point that he doesn't like gov't "controlling" all the media. Only other change that occured since gov't took over the media are the limitations on the alchoholic products commercials which made up 90% of all commercials on all channels on Russian TV until recently, now we get more commersials of "Aqua Phina", "Pepsi", "Coco-Cola" and "Sneakers". Thats all that has changed. Our democracy is still young, it needs time to grow up.

There are talking in the west that Russia is going back to the old Soviet-era way of handling things. Dictatorship (Putin as supreme dictator), secret police, large military, no civil rights, etc. I also hear that there's loads of corruption on all levels in Russia. Is this true Pushka? I really want to know.

Corruption is true, the only reason why we lost in Afghanistan and why Chechnya has being going on for so long is because of the corruption inside our system. Some people in side Russian gov't make money from selling weapons to the rebels in the Chechen war, they are also paid for doing little favors like sending a whole battalion looking for 4 terrorists while the border protection weakens and other rebels get through into Russia blowing themselves up in the public place in Moscow a couple of months later, or this summers Beslan attack, or attack in Ingushetia that happened before that, there seventy armed rebels suddenly melted into the shadows after killing a douzen police officers and civilians in a gun battle. We have a committee to fight corruption but its simply not catching enough people, because some corrupted people can pay the committee to remain from being investigated and arrested. Putin of course yells at the committee and says that he wants more people arrested for corruption and then puts down his hands showing that he tried but couldn't do anything. As for Putin being a dictator that is bullshit, actually we have similar concerns about Bush over here, there was even a video clip i saw once that related Bush to Hilter. Putin is no dictator he is a puppet, once his bosses stopped playing with him and this term ends they will find another puppet to replace him. Corruption is Russia's prime enemy, if we defeat that then it is most prabable that we will replace US as World's sole superpower in under a decade. We have more total energy resources and other natural resources then any single nation in the world, if not for the corrupt officials absorbing 90% of the profit from our imports we would be the strongest economy and the strongest market on earth. Our military potential is only matched by US, if we had more money to fund our projects then the best tank on earth Nizhny Torgil would be in our arsennal in 1994, then T-50 would already be finished then Ekronoplan would roar the oceans of the globe faster then any other ship in existance.

As for military build up, yes that is true, we are still ambitious and imperialistic. I am not saying it is wrong by in my view it would be better if we calm down for about a decade, solve our inner problems like corruption, and then come out and unleash our wrath upon the world conquering all. UAHAHAHAHA. But thats just my wishful thinking.

TAG.

And Pushka, you have....interesting.....views on the Federation. WE should talk sometime, but probably not in this thread.

We can talk via TGs, i have a constantly occuring problem with instant messengers.

As for military build up, yes that is true, we are still ambitious and imperialistic. I am not saying it is wrong by in my view it would be better if we calm down for about a decade, solve our inner problems like corruption, and then come out and unleash our wrath upon the world conquering all. UAHAHAHAHA. But thats just my wishful thinking.

Then the Third Rome can live again! Pushka, all of it was interesting, especially since here in Canada we don't get the complete Muscovite picture.

You can't deny there are some serious issues. You're right, your democracy is still young. Which is why now is certainly not the time to be restricting freedoms as Putin has proposed and perhaps already done(?), I'm not sure. I fell out of touch with Russian current events a couple months ago.

As for Putin being a dictator that is bullshit, actually we have similar concerns about Bush over here, there was even a video clip i saw once that related Bush to Hilter.

That's laughable. The only thing that you could even use to make a half decent case against Bush is the Patriot Act, which has not been misused. The potential is there, but all of our Law Enforcement Agencies have handled the newfound power with the responsibility necessary. That and the Act is up for renewal this year and changes are likely to be made. The moral of the story is don't believ all the Psuedo Euro Commie Propaganda you come across.

Well it works both ways, i mean i read CNN on the internet to see the western point of view, but most people over here don't. Media is a very hyper creature, if a reporter sees an opprtunity to make a wordy headline in big black letters he will take it no matter if its true or not, thats true for media everythere. For example i read on internet recently that FOX News has announced on the day of the Popes Election in a very attractive way that "WE HAVE A POPE!" in big letters and with an exclamation point and all of that, putting no real imput behind that wording. At the same about 3 days before the last new year Russian ORT channel news had a 5 minute segment on the origins of semi-popular childrens new year song "V lesu rodilasi iolachka" once again they talked about it like it was a serious subject showing the topics name in big shiny letters on the TV screen. Media is not about information now a days, it is about attracting attention of the viewer by whatever means and getting as much money from the commercials as possible, while trying to appeal to a certain group of people. For example St.Petersburg Channel "Cultura" is obviously for the old folks, and NTV is obviously for people who hate Putin, while in US the news channels have either liberal or conservative point of view, not hiding in any way their intension to appeal to their chosen demographic.

You can't deny there are some serious issues. You're right, your democracy is still young. Which is why now is certainly not the time to be restricting freedoms as Putin has proposed and perhaps already done(?), I'm not sure. I fell out of touch with Russian current events a couple months ago.



That's laughable. The only thing that you could even use to make a half decent case against Bush is the Patriot Act, which has not been misused. The potential is there, but all of our Law Enforcement Agencies have handled the newfound power with the responsibility necessary. That and the Act is up for renewal this year and changes are likely to be made. The moral of the story is don't believ all the Psuedo Euro Commie Propaganda you come across.

Actually the clip was made in US. It in a very rapid speed showed Bush giving a speech then Hitler doing the same then almost identical crowd noises in both instanses. All that while classical music is playing on the back ground and the whole thing ends in a snap shot of a civilian house being blown up in Baghdad, after that screen goes dark and words appear on the screen.

"SOUNDS FAMILIAR?"

As for Putin restricting freedom, we never had any freedom, it is all just a big joke. If a certain gov't official wants to keep you from talking he is in full power to do so, that was true even before Putin, right now he is actually made things a little bit better corruption wise, there is less of it, and there are no bombings in Moscow anymore. In order to bring down corruption you need a stronger central gov't, in theory, in practice what we get is a smaller pile of bigger men doing as they will disregarding law, instead of a larger pile of smaller men disregarding law as it was under Yeltsin. I myself will go with the smaller pile, cause i get really pissed then a cop pulls me over and asks me to give him money so he can buy vodka or else. Atleast with Putin corruption doesn't affect ordinary people's everyday lives as much as it used to.

Well, I don't know that they don't try to hide their bias but it certainly exists. Without analyzing the individual shows you can pretty much label the political leanings of the three major Cable News Agencies in the US. CNN is the liberal station, FOX is the conservative station and MSNBC is the more moderate station that has shows that lean both ways. I tend to tune into Fox and MSNBC because they upset me less. I'm sure it's the same way in Russia. They try to hide it, just not well.

They used to pull you over and ask for liquor money? That's fairly troubling.

Heh only if you knew what is happening to new conscipts in the Russian army you wouldn't think of that as troubeling. Also my uncle's second wife's son was arrested for "driving drunk". In St.Petersburg where are new laws passed that say if you are caught drunk you get your license suspended for two years without any hisitation. Well my Dima, thats his name, had one beer in the morning and was driving in the afternoon a cop stopped him and Dima was identified as positive on an alchohol test. I am thinking that the thing he used to test for alchohol was either fixed to always show positive, because one .8 liter can of beer in the morning is nothing, absolutely nothing especially since he drank it over breakfast. Anyways the cop gave him a choice of paying 10000 rubels or getting the license suspended and going to jail. The 10000 rubels would of course end up in the cop's personal pocket. Well they didn't pay and i am not sure what happened didn't hear from them since summer. This is called localised corruption and because of Putin there is much less of it then during Yeltsin's rule. Also the drunk driver counter measures might seem extreme to you, but consider that 10000 people a year die in St.Petersburg from drinking, driving and getting into accidents, those measures are fair. If they weren't abused i would still be pissed that i can't drink and drive but at least less people would die.

I don't see those measures as too strickt. 10 000 rubles are approximately 2240 norwegian kroner. We get like 6000 kroner in fines if we drink and drive (that's approximately 26 800 rubles). That is in addition to loosing the drivers licence for a year. If we can't pay = 15 days in prison.

What does happen with new conscripts in the Red Army (you still call it "red army", right)?

cough cough, umm, sory to interupt, but rome, can you add this to the ww3 list if its not there already, http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413978

cough cough, umm, sory to interupt, but rome, can you add this to the ww3 list if its not there already, http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413978

That's already been listed, but thanks.

That's already been listed, but thanks.

ok, sorry to interupt. as you were...

Actually the clip was made in US. It in a very rapid speed showed Bush giving a speech then Hitler doing the same then almost identical crowd noises in both instanses. All that while classical music is playing on the back ground and the whole thing ends in a snap shot of a civilian house being blown up in Baghdad, after that screen goes dark and words appear on the screen.

"SOUNDS FAMILIAR?"

As for Putin restricting freedom, we never had any freedom, it is all just a big joke. If a certain gov't official wants to keep you from talking he is in full power to do so, that was true even before Putin, right now he is actually made things a little bit better corruption wise, there is less of it, and there are no bombings in Moscow anymore. In order to bring down corruption you need a stronger central gov't, in theory, in practice what we get is a smaller pile of bigger men doing as they will disregarding law, instead of a larger pile of smaller men disregarding law as it was under Yeltsin. I myself will go with the smaller pile, cause i get really pissed then a cop pulls me over and asks me to give him money so he can buy vodka or else. Atleast with Putin corruption doesn't affect ordinary people's everyday lives as much as it used to.
putin's state of the union (http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04/25/putin.address/index.html)

by the way, im liberal.

pushka, where in moscow are you in? i have a few friends from Jugo-Zapadnaya. while i my self speak very little russian, they are trying to teach me.

Russia is basically a growing authoritarian system. To the point that it will return to Soviet-style totalitarianism is questionable but there is no doubt that it is NOT a democracy. The key question will be what happens when Putin's term ends. Will he amend the constitution to keep going or will he hand it in. That's the biggest question.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414847

World War, invading Iran and United Arabic Emirates (EARTH II)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404528

Was originally normal EII, but it seemed like a good thread to continue with; it's the NeoSuun Zhonghua 'conquest thread', so I'm posting WW movements there.

Current targets: West Mongolia, Guam & the Marianas

I don't see those measures as too strickt. 10 000 rubles are approximately 2240 norwegian kroner. We get like 6000 kroner in fines if we drink and drive (that's approximately 26 800 rubles). That is in addition to loosing the drivers licence for a year. If we can't pay = 15 days in prison.

What does happen with new conscripts in the Red Army (you still call it "red army", right)?

No we call it Federation's army, and the soldiers like (actually we don't care) to call ourselves Federals. Now,what is going on is called "Dedovshyna" and it has been going on since the Soviet days exept it was never as brutal as now. Older conscripts are basically making those younger conscripts who are weak their slaves. Then i say slaves i mean it. I luckily was not weak and i spent my first few months of "maturing" on the Russo-Finnish border with a very strict commanding officer who simply did not allow that kind of thing to occur, because we were so close to another nation that it would be shameful to us, for them to see it occuring. That way i skipped my green meat years and then i was transfered to Novgorod seven months later i was no longer a slave material. But in Novgorod we had guys who were. Some guys were forcing new conscripts to dress like hobos and go beg for money to buy vodka for their enforcers. There is a whole deal of shameful stuff going on i don't want to talk about, officers for the most part view it as a way for the soldiers to toughen up and don't do anything about it.

I think we need a sort of running list of who is engaged and where.

Ok I have a situation that I need a ruling on oh great moderator.

I have set up an invasion force to tackle Kriegorgrad Norway (as per the Blood in the Snow thread). I received this response from Kriegorgrad.

The Collective Oligarchy of Kriegorgrad
Received: 64 minutes ago Also, I hope that was a faked assault by your own army because you aren't allowed to control my things.
The Collective Oligarchy of Kriegorgrad
Received: 69 minutes ago For fuck's sake mate. I don't have the time for that, sorry, I'm obligated to RP in other stuff before that and oh yes, I'm right in the middle of exams and revision is flying about like crazy.

Now the question is where do we go from here? My case is Krieg. didn't post themselves as a neutral nation, (which meant his territory was fair game as per the dicussions held at length about nations status prior to the war) so I have asked he just cede Krieg. Norway to me, since from the above comments he doesn't have time to RP this and he is obligated to RP other stuff. You may want to consult Layarteb on this one. I would be happy with just Norway, but if I was to invade mainland Britain what then? I mean if you don't have time to defend your territorial holdings then why are you here? This is the message I gather from the above TG's?

I will be happy with whatever decision is made, but this is frustrating the amount of planning I have done to make this happen and then get sorta blown off, I understand the frustration from the Carribean Sea incident totally now.

PS I won't be back online until tomorrow, eye doctor says stay off computer for a day or so till my eye can heal up.

-Hawdawg

Ok I have a situation that I need a ruling on oh great moderator.

I have set up an invasion force to tackle Kriegorgrad Norway (as per the Blood in the Snow thread). I received this response from Kriegorgrad.



Now the question is where do we go from here? My case is Krieg. didn't post themselves as a neutral nation, (which meant his territory was fair game as per the dicussions held at length about nations status prior to the war) so I have asked he just cede Krieg. Norway to me, since from the above comments he doesn't have time to RP this and he is obligated to RP other stuff. You may want to consult Layarteb on this one. I would be happy with just Norway, but if I was to invade mainland Britain what then? I mean if you don't have time to defend your territorial holdings then why are you here? This is the message I gather from the above TG's?

I will be happy with whatever decision is made, but this is frustrating the amount of planning I have done to make this happen and then get sorta blown off, I understand the frustration from the Carribean Sea incident totally now.

PS I won't be back online until tomorrow, eye doctor says stay off computer for a day or so till my eye can heal up.

-Hawdawg

It's RomeWs call he's moderator of WW.

My take on it is that he has a legitimate reason (exams). But those don't last forever. See if he's engaged in RPs elsewhere on NS. If he were easy to devote time elsewhere and just ignore the situation here then I'd be very suspicious.

It's RomeWs call he's moderator of WW.

My take on it is that he has a legitimate reason (exams). But those don't last forever. See if he's engaged in RPs elsewhere on NS. If he were easy to devote time elsewhere and just ignore the situation here then I'd be very suspicious.
Since I'm part of that invasion, I'll do that. Expect an edit soon.

EDIT: Latest post I found from him was yesterday.

I declare war on no-one. My military contains every person in my population.

:sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper: :sniper:

Hawdawg: That's easy: your invasion is valid. If they're participating elsewhere on NS then they certainly can participate in your RP. As Layarteb himself said, you can't just *ignore* an attack because you don't want to, and Kriegorgrad is doing just that. Hey, I have exams too and I'm participating.

Lastly:


3. Finally, it is solely your responsibility to ensure you know what's going on. If someone just bombed your capital (for example) in one thread that you didn't get a chance to read, don't complain to me about it because it's not my responsibility to make sure you know every last detail (aside from posting the links here). In short, whatever you don't know is your problem, not mine.

So it's neither my fault or yours that they were caught off guard- it's completely Kriegorgrad's.

Layarteb: Good idea. For the people who have already posted threads, please post who is involved and where it is taking place, which must be updated accordingly. Any new threads must also follow this rule.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8751097#post8751097

New thread called "Omani invasion!" (Original, I know). I'm invading Oman. It's me versus whoever wants to RP the resistance.

Thanks RomeW.

Kriegorgrad and I have TG'ed each other and he is agreeable to give the RP a shot. He should be responding to it shortly.

Thanks,

-Hawgdawg


FYI: I will post again tomorrow, I am still nursing an eye injury that limits my computer time.

Thanks RomeW.

Kriegorgrad and I have TG'ed each other and he is agreeable to give the RP a shot. He should be responding to it shortly.

Thanks,

-Hawgdawg


FYI: I will post again tomorrow, I am still nursing an eye injury that limits my computer time.

You're welcome- and get well soon.

This should be interesting. I am going to keep watching until I can find an opportunity join..

I am currently engaged nowhere but have some civil matters at home.

new thread
http://www.forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415164
Operation-Long march

the hyperlink thingir isnt working, sry

Neuer thread.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8762234#post8762234

Assault on Leningrad

new thread by me 1:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415287
a taking of nigeria


new thread by me and Greater Valia:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415276
taking of angola

we are going to split the country, no definate borders between the two parts. think of it as a mush of the two countrys, a coalition. yea.

new thread by me 1:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415287
a taking of nigeria


new thread by me and Greater Valia:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415276
taking of angola

we are going to split the country, no definate borders between the two parts. think of it as a mush of the two countrys, a coalition. yea.

A better analogy I think would be what the allies did with Germany after WWII. Im planning on just running the territory as a military occupation zone. I will probably present it as a gift to one of my Generals whos army group will be stationed there and the navy after I get sorted out what I want it to be like. So, in the map of Africa in the Earth II Revitalization thread it should be listed as co-occupied semi-autonomous military occupation zone. Or we could split it into north and south Angola, really whatever sounds best to you Duke.

And Duke, seeming as we are closely connected by politics right now I propose a permanate alliance between our nations with full military, economic, and financial aide. What do you say?

A better analogy I think would be what the allies did with Germany after WWII. Im planning on just running the territory as a military occupation zone. I will probably present it as a gift to one of my Generals whos army group will be stationed there and the navy after I get sorted out what I want it to be like. So, in the map of Africa in the Earth II Revitalization thread it should be listed as co-occupied semi-autonomous military occupation zone. Or we could split it into north and south Angola, really whatever sounds best to you Duke.

And Duke, seeming as we are closely connected by politics right now I propose a permanate alliance between our nations with full military, economic, and financial aide. What do you say?

I like the idea for the occupation zone. what i was thinking is that we share bases and airstrips, use the land for a massive spec ops training ground, also to train elite units. I am all for the alliance, each and every part.

I like the idea for the occupation zone. what i was thinking is that we share bases and airstrips, use the land for a massive spec ops training ground, also to train elite units. I am all for the alliance, each and every part.

Excellent! BTW, I updated the Angola thread.

great!!! so its a deal! i updated it also.

ATTN all earth 2 nations. we need someone to rp the rest of the binthorian millitary and the insurgents inside of the key cities in angola.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415276

hmmmm just reading your personal perspective on your Country there Pushka. very interesting. Im interested in the way your people are tranistory. from autocratic monarchy untill 1917 to soviet "socialist"rule till 1991 and back to relatively autocratic rule again. is there a pattern??? was the 1991 revolution coming because the russian people wanted change. or because the Soviet system could not function anymore no matter what reforms gorbachev made???? thats my Two cents

Hey folks general announcement:

Kriegorgrad and I agreed that we don't want an international dogpile in the Blood in the Snow thread. I have three players that will be actively engaged in the Combat besides myself, Krieg., Cotland, and North Germania. Now I don't mind and I know he probably won't either if you sent Aurora, SR-71's or Satellites to monitor the situation. I want the scope/focus to remain on Norway and Norway only. If you want possessions elsewhere of his start your own WW thread about that area and run with it. I don't want to be a horses behind about this but a thread can spiral out of control and can't be brought back if everyone starts talking about everything but the topic at hand, which is Norway. I hope ya'll will agree to our wishes and help us maintain the integrity of the thread. I like to write good stuff and I don't want that spoiled by the sidebars.

Thanks in advance,

-Hawdawg

He I still be able to give him my support, like weapons and funds? I was planning on allying myself with Krieg, and assist in combating those that are invading his territories. Then I can reclaim Sweden, Finland, or Norway. I'm not sure which one yet.

He I still be able to give him my support, like weapons and funds? I was planning on allying myself with Krieg, and assist in combating those that are invading his territories. Then I can reclaim Sweden, Finland, or Norway. I'm not sure which one yet.

Why don't you TG him and ask him if he would accept your offer of weapons and funds. We are in a holding pattern right now and I don't even know if the battle will take place. Krieg. has alot going on right now and that is causing some delay.

Oh and you have to kick me out of Sweden and Finland before you can get them back. ;)

-Hawdawg

ALLY WANK ALLY WANK ALERT. that $%&*(^ cotland just Invaded me :mad: Neutrality obviously is rather hard to define. one mans neutrality is another mans excuse to Invade rape and pillage and shit on you. grrrrrrrrr :mad:

ALLY WANK ALLY WANK ALERT. that $%&*(^ cotland just Invaded me :mad: Neutrality obviously is rather hard to define. one mans neutrality is another mans excuse to Invade rape and pillage and shit on you. grrrrrrrrr :mad:

You never declared what kind of neutrality you wanted- did you not want to be a part of the war? However, I'm weary to declare this null and void because the war has already started.

ALLY WANK ALLY WANK ALERT. that $%&*(^ cotland just Invaded me :mad: Neutrality obviously is rather hard to define. one mans neutrality is another mans excuse to Invade rape and pillage and shit on you. grrrrrrrrr :mad:
Too bad mate. I won't call in allies if you don't... j/k

You never defined your position, so I naturally assumed that you were ripe for the picking. I just want Leningrad. I won't touch the rest of your territories. Heck, if you want, I can give you Benin and/or Equitorial Guinea. It's up to you mate. All I want is Leningrad.

What sides are there to align with? Can I get a list or a link to a thread?

ATTN all earth 2 nations. we need someone to rp the rest of the binthorian millitary and the insurgents inside of the key cities in angola.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=415276

anyone? please?

Does anyone know what kind of military and weapons did Industrial Experiments have? I am invading their land and they are a decree 12 nation. Also can anyone RP for their military and insurgency? I can do without that but it won't be as interesting for me.

hmmmm just reading your personal perspective on your Country there Pushka. very interesting. Im interested in the way your people are tranistory. from autocratic monarchy untill 1917 to soviet "socialist"rule till 1991 and back to relatively autocratic rule again. is there a pattern??? was the 1991 revolution coming because the russian people wanted change. or because the Soviet system could not function anymore no matter what reforms gorbachev made???? thats my Two cents


1991 revolution was coming because Soviet Union didn't have enough funds to play with the west on roughly the same level, so all those "great" communist leaders at the top, including Garbochev decided to let it all fall apart so they could still any money that was still left, which they did.

Pattern? No, not really. Lenin's revolution wouldn'y occur if bolshevicks weren't lacking power within the communist party. Menshevycks who didn'y follow Lenin were outnumbering Bolshevicks 10 to 1, Menshevycks wanted communism the way Karl Marx presented it, which is basically develop capitalism which will develop proletariat which will eventually kill capitalism and everybody would be happy. Because he was at that time in Finland after escaping the police, he couldn't do anything, but he felt that he couldn'y maintain power inside the communist party if he didn't change something. So he did, he arrived from Finland, jumped off the train and gave a speech to his supporters. He said that in order to achieve communism evolved proletariat is not needed, all that needs to be done is for the current lower class to rise up and wage a bloody revolution. It was all just so he could maintain personal power over the communist party. Since waiting isn't exactly a thing people like to do, because waiting for proletariat to evolve would mean living in poverty, all your life, working for the next generation and not for yourself, Bolshevycks quickly became a majority. The irony of all of this is that Trotsky was proposing the same ideas 10 years later, back then Lenin laughed at his ideas, and called them foolish. As you can see revolutions are made in Russia so a single person can get personal power. It was true in 1917, it was true in 1991.

OOC: Looking for someone to RP as either the Mongolian resistance or the Marianas/Guam resistance; if you're interested, it's in 'The Northern Sun Awakes' link.

Otherwise, it's just NeoSuun Zhonghua vs. 'Rebels'.

The Kingdom Awakes:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416201


Looking for someone to RP the resistance, the invasion has been outlined in the first post, I will get down to the real fighting soon. Until someone assumes the role of the resistance I will RP them myself.

Someone please RP the resistance in my invading Iran thread, link is on this page or the previous one.

A Coo' Coup Attn North Germania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8809790#post8809790)

Can you add this?

Since taking Binthor's old territory seems to be the fashionable thing to do, I think I'll invade Mauritania.

Anyone interested in RPing resistance?

Dammit, I need to do something on this.

Anyone want to RP an invasion?

Dammit, I need to do something on this.

Anyone want to RP an invasion?

[plays devils advocate]
Who got Moldovia? That's in close proximity.
[/plays devils advocate]

New thread that may interest most people in Russia / Asia.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8819193#post8819193

"The newest toys"

Cotland tests new missiles...

OOC: Please someone RP for Industrial Experiments in the Iran invasion thread. I need an enemy, it is giving me frustration. Only you can save this Russian's nerves.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417355
Operation Tropical Exercise

(EOL conducts naval exercises in the southwest Caribbean)

Please add this to the list:

Invasion of Mauritania (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=418116)

Out of curiosity, what is your policy on ignoring? I tg'd hogsweat the link to Operation-Long March, informed him of what it was, and have waited 14 days today for a response. The thread has his name in the title
OPERATION: GRAND MARCH (Earth II ATTN Hogsweat, TLS, TKT, TN, etc.)

Can i start attacking while he sits and ignores it? Will any land gains be valid? Should someone RP resistance? I know there are many other people who want to fight him as well, and any resolution to this would be appreciated

Thank you

Elephantum

Out of curiosity, what is your policy on ignoring? I tg'd hogsweat the link to Operation-Long March, informed him of what it was, and have waited 14 days today for a response. The thread has his name in the title


Can i start attacking while he sits and ignores it? Will any land gains be valid? Should someone RP resistance? I know there are many other people who want to fight him as well, and any resolution to this would be appreciated

Thank you

Elephantum

Hogsweat addressed this whole situation to me and Earth II as a whole and informed me of a decision he had made, which he'll be informed Earth II shortly. I was expecting it the other day but I guess he got sidetracked.

Eleph, check the forums.

Whole Hogsweat thing has been made clear to me, thanks

Cotland, when will the Omani Invasion end?

Eh, I'm still waiting for the friggin' Duke to reply. But I think it's dead, so... I'll give the [PARENTAL WARNING: OFFENSIVE LANGUAGE](j/k) another day before I call it quits and give you your peninsula..

ok, thanks

patiently waiting for Hogsweats announcement
(not really patiently)

new thread

The Sultanate Grows
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419234
Decree 12 invasion of the rest of iran

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...264#post8882264

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...264#post8882264

Error 404.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread...264#post8882264

I was able to add it (by playing around with the URL), but in the future, don't just copy & paste your post with the link on it, because Jolt shortens all of them.

I was able to add it (by playing around with the URL), but in the future, don't just copy & paste your post with the link on it, because Jolt shortens all of them.

Yeah I clicked it and it spazed out. It's alright I found it and subscribed but if you say that it works then hoorah!

The EOL announces that the Panama Canal is being closed to non-pre approved nations.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8885741&postcount=36

Today, the Emperor of Layarteb, has made an announcement concerning the Panama Canal. From this moment on, during these unstable and turbulent times, the Panama Canal will be restricted only to pre-approved nations. Any attack as a result will be considered an unacceptable use of force and will be met with retaliation.

Is Cotland considered a "pre-approved nation"?

Is Cotland considered a "pre-approved nation"?

Yes.

To not clutter up this thread, if you want to see if you are pre-approved, telegram me.

Can you list these "pre-approved" nations?

That way we don't clutter yer TG box.

Can you list these "pre-approved" nations?

That way we don't clutter yer TG box.

You won't clutter my TG box, it's empty.

Yeah I clicked it and it spazed out. It's alright I found it and subscribed but if you say that it works then hoorah!

The trick is in the link. The URL eventually reads "showthread?p=" or whatever, and all you'd have to do is put in the number that it spat out there.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421365

Operation Stahlfaust

(Annexing Slovakia)

'The Northern Sun Awakes' (actually The Northern Dragon Awakes, but there we go) has finished as far as the World War is concerned.

The Squornshelan Submarine Disaster thread is over. You can take it off the list.

It seems like these are the only remaining active Earth II - World War threads. Or am I wrong?

Operation Tropical Exercise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417355)
Testing the armory (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)
{Blood in the Snow} WW Thread European Theater (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414044)
Brit-Norwegian Conference {Attention Cotland North Germania} (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421729)
Operation Stahlfaust [ATTN: Pantheaa] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421365)

It seems like these are the only remaining active Earth II - World War threads. Or am I wrong?

Operation Tropical Exercise (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=417355)
Testing the armory (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413020)
{Blood in the Snow} WW Thread European Theater (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414044)
Brit-Norwegian Conference {Attention Cotland North Germania} (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421729)
Operation Stahlfaust [ATTN: Pantheaa] (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421365)

Looks like we'll need a cleanup.

To all involved: please state if your thread is active or finished. Thank you.

link for brit-norwegian conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=421729).

The blood in the snow thread is still active, until we get a handle on the plague released by Kriegorgrad.


-Hawdawg

"Omani Invasion", "Assault on Leningrad" are finished.

all my stuff is done, and has been for quite some time

all my stuff is done, and has been for quite some time

Can you list which ones are yours? Some of them are just titles and I don't know who started them.

The Blood in the Snow thread is finished. As well as the Brit-Norwegian Conference.

However I am looking to expand my Pacific influence within a day or two. I will be invading an island somewhere in the pacific. I will post the thread.


-Hawdawg

I have a new link for an impending battle:


Operation Dart (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=423309)

This is the invasion of Hawaii. YOO HOO [NS] Kreynoria, my Marines are coming, are you ready?

-Hawdawg

I have had to cancel 'A Kingdom Awakes' exams and such. I shouldn't really affect anyone, since it was decree 12, I think the territories have been appointed to someone else anyway.

RomeW: I may need you for a ruling shortly in The Blood in the Snow thread. I would ask that you read through the last couple of pages to see the frustration I am having to deal with. I would ask for your assistance in this matter. I am dangerously close to envolking the rarely used Ignore Cannon, if things do get "real" in a hurry.


Thank you for your assistance,

-Hawdawg

******IMPORTANT NOTICE******

NEW RULE- THE WAR AND IGNORING

It has come to my attention that certain parties have been 'ignoring' legitimate and legal invasions without any justification whatsoever. Like on Earth II, this is not allowed. Therefore, I am declaring from here on in, that if someone launches an invasion into a fellow participant's land, the defender shall have one (1) week to respond before the invaders can take their land without any consequences, unless the defender gives a legitimate reason for their abscense (e.g., business trip, vacation, school project, etc.) BEFORE the abscense begins. The reason for this is that I stated very clearly in the first post that it is solely your responsibility to know what is going on to your lands, and, by signing up for the war, you are saying that you will be ready to deal with whatever will be thrown at you. You can't sign up and act as if nothing happened. If you can't participate for legitimate reasons I will make provisions for that, as long as you warn everyone first.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=424021
war declared against me by ng.

i request confederacy help.

I have pulled the plug on Operation Dart. As of 5pm hostilities will end.

-Hawdawg

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9021027

Operation Frozen Tundra

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425347

Celtayoshi Deploys


(although the target is known only to a few close allies atm)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425387

Greenland annexation

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=425392

Nerotikan land annexation.

ATTENTION: As of tomorrow morning I am going to be out of town until SUNDAY afternoon. ANY Action requiring my presence (invasions, etc.) will have to be posponed until then.

Thanks,

-Hawdawg

Attack on Checkpoint #7330 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9069384)

Beginnings of war on Squornshelous.

FYI

World War ends the 22nd and therein sets a 1 week period of no new land claims. Check out the main E2 thread, page 353 for the details.