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The Nellis Doctrine 1.0 : Shooban Liberation

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Nellisland
19-04-2005, 01:59
A speech given by President Nellis early his morning:

Ladies and Gentleman, at the outset of this speech please allow me to say how much I love this country and the freedom that it stands for. Having said that it is now time to get down to business, I have just completed a video conference with the House of Delegates. We had many things on the docket for discussion, but I was mainly concerned with one large issue. The United States of Nellisland's stance on Roach-Buster's treatment of Shoobans. The U.S.N. has claimed for years that R.B. is one of their strongest allies and sat back and watched, but I can no longer sit back and watch these atrocities occur anymore.

In Roach-Busters Shoobans are treated like they are the scum of the earth. They are beaten, battered, and killed just for the fun of it. They are sold like apples on the street into slavery. For a Shooban, freedom is unheard of. Roach-Busters leader J.L. is a stanch hater of Shoobans. He himself has killed and beaten thousands of helpless Shoobans. He orders mass deaths of them as if they were flies on a windshield of a car. They have even created a T.V. about killing Shoobans. People like this are the scum of the earth. These are the same people who in our history told blacks that they couldn't vote or own land just because there were black. But do they not have feelings. They told woman that they couldn't drive a car or run for public office just because they were woman. But if you prick them, don’t they bleed. People are people! No matter what they look like, and it is not right to discriminate. But Roach-Buster's has taken it much further than that. Slavery, something that our nation hasn't seen in almost a hundred years.

So today I announce the Nellis Doctrine 1.0. Yes that is right 1.0. I do plan on having more Doctrines, so this is the first of many. As of today Nellisland is cutting off all forms of trade with Roach-Busters and calling all its citizens out. I am also proposing economic sanctions on RB. My demand is simple: Free the Shoobans! J.L. for too long you have abused your people and we are no longer standing for it! If he does not comply we might start using some more forceful tactics.

I am also asking J.L. to sit down and talk with me man to man. In a neutral nation would be fantastic. We have much to discuss. We have only met once, but I feel that the only way anything can be resolved would be to talk. I await his response.

Finally I ask that for the support of the international community and that my own people stand behind me. We need to let J.L. know that we are no longer standing for these actions anymore. Please help this cause.

Thank and good night...
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:05
You said we treat Shoobans "like they are the scum of the Earth." Well, since they are the scum of the Earth, is not our treatment of them appropriate?

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:08
You said we treat Shoobans "like they are the scum of the Earth." Well, since they are the scum of the Earth, is not our treatment of them appropriate?

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L. you have no right to call Shoobans the scum of the earth! They have feelings just you or me. They have souls J.L. and what you do is unacceptable. However, do you have an answer for my proposal to meet. We can argue like this but I would prefer to talk to you face to face.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:09
J.L. you have no right to call Shoobans the scum of the earth! They have feelings just you or me. They have souls J.L. and what you do is unacceptable. However, do you have an answer for my proposal to meet. We can argue like this but I would prefer to talk to you face to face.

-President Michael W. Nellis


Of course they have feelings. They can feel pain just as you and I can. Oh, you should hear their screeches of agony when I pummel them! It's like music to my ears!

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:14
Of course they have feelings. They can feel pain just as you and I can. Oh, you should hear their screeches of agony when I pummel them! It's like music to my ears!

-Generalissimo J.L.

You are a horrible man J.L. Where was that man that I once knew. You were a good leader. Now, you are a pyscho man who happens to be in power. I will no longer accept your actions! How can you commit thest acts and still call yourself human. I ask you to please stop the atrocities that you are commiting right now. This not right and deep down you know it. How would you like to have someone make you scream in agony. I bet you wouldn't like that would you.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:16
You are a horrible man J.L. Where was that man that I once knew. You were a good leader. Now, you are a pyscho man who happens to be in power. I will no longer accept your actions! How can you commit thest acts and still call yourself human. I ask you to please stop the atrocities that you are commiting right now. This not right and deep down you know it. How would you like to have someone make you scream in agony. I bet you wouldn't like that would you.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Mr. President, if the same thing happened to me, that would be an entirely different situation. I am a human being, whereas the Shoobans are not.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:19
Mr. President, if the same thing happened to me, that would be an entirely different situation. I am a human being, whereas the Shoobans are not.

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L. you are not human. You yourself are the scum of the universe, and perhaps you deserve to have that happen to you. How can you discriminate against the Shoobans. They feel they same that my people and you people do. This is pityful. So I please ask you, once more, to free the Shoobans.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:21
J.L. you are not human. You yourself are the scum of the universe, and perhaps you deserve to have that happen to you. How can you discriminate against the Shoobans. They feel they same that my people and you people do. This is pityful. So I please ask you, once more, to free the Shoobans.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Didn't your mother once tell you, "You never know if you'll like something unless you try it?" Well, I suggest you follow that advice. Can you honestly tell me you have killed a Shooban before? Try it, my friend. It is an extremely entertaining pasttime. I highly recommend it.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 02:21
J.L. you are not human. You yourself are the scum of the universe, and perhaps you deserve to have that happen to you. How can you discriminate against the Shoobans. They feel they same that my people and you people do. This is pityful. So I please ask you, once more, to free the Shoobans.

-President Michael W. Nellis

JL is human, Shoobans are not. Shoobans are nasty animals, who cares about them.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:26
Didn't your mother once tell you, "You never know if you'll like something unless you try it?" Well, I suggest you follow that advice. Can you honestly tell me you have killed a Shooban before? Try it, my friend. It is an extremely entertaining pasttime. I highly recommend it.

-Generalissimo J.L.

You are a sick man J.L. These creatures can talk and breath and all you have them do is die. How can you act like that. It is not as though we are talking about deer or bears. Shoobans are just like people J.L. and you need to learn that! I will not harm a Shooban every!

JL is human, Shoobans are not. Shoobans are nasty animals, who cares about them.

-Shah Khosru III

It is not human to randomly kill. It is wrong and horrible. Shoobans are as good as you and me. Well better than you and J.L. in my own opinion
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:29
You are a sick man J.L. These creatures can talk and breath and all you have them do is die. How can you act like that. It is not as though we are talking about deer or bears. Shoobans are just like people J.L. and you need to learn that! I will not harm a Shooban ever!

Well, maybe you won't, but I will!

-Generalissimo J.L.


It is not human to randomly kill. It is wrong and horrible. Shoobans are as good as you and me. Well better than you and J.L. in my own opinion

Shoobans are not as good as anyone else. They are the lowest scum on the planet, even lower than communists.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 02:30
Hahahahah, Shoobans, better than JL or Myself? JL is a good man, and not mentally retarded or nonhuman. I am a descendant of Sassan, and heir to a throne held by my family for 1800 years. Shoobans have an average iq of 50, and the highest EVER recorded is 75. They deserve death, since they have no emotions.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:30
Well, maybe you won't, but I will!

-Generalissimo J.L.




Shoobans are not as good as anyone else. They are the lowest scum on the planet, even lower than communists.

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L. you need to grow up and learn that we are all equal. Why do you believe them to be the lowest scum on the planet when there are much worse running arounf the world. Like you!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:33
Hahahahah, Shoobans, better than JL or Myself? JL is a good man, and not mentally retarded or nonhuman. I am a descendant of Sassan, and heir to a throne held by my family for 1800 years. Shoobans have an average iq of 50, and the highest EVER recorded is 75. They deserve death, since they have no emotions.

-Shah Khosru III

Perhaps if they were given an equal opportunity to learn you would see large improvement. I could care less of who's descentant you are. As far as I am concerned you are much worse than anything that I can think of! Perhaps you deserve death my friend!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 02:36
Perhaps if they were given an equal opportunity to learn you would see large improvement. I could care less of who's descentant you are. As far as I am concerned you are much worse than anything that I can think of! Perhaps you deserve death my friend!

-President Michael W. Nellis

As my scribe writes down this message, I happily saw away at a Shooban's arm. Why? Because I can. But anyway, as of ancestry, I can proudly state my family is older than yours, my ancestors were client Kings of Persis to the Arsacids starting in 200 BCE and have come to rule all of Persia and more. You are probably related to a Shooban, your mother was half Shooban and half Hazara. Only you deserve death.

-Shah Khosru III
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 02:37
Perhaps if they were given an equal opportunity to learn you would see large improvement. I could care less of who's descentant you are. As far as I am concerned you are much worse than anything that I can think of! Perhaps you deserve death my friend!

-President Michael W. Nellis

I beg to differ. Shah Khosru III is the scion of Ahura Mazda, the enemy of Ahriman, the savior of anticommunism, a brilliant and visionary statesman, and a brave and noble warrior. Shoobans, on the other hand, are too low even to be considered animals.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:41
You both are evil men and deserve to rot in hell. Like I said I do not care about your history. I am more worried about the future. If you think you are going to wow me by telling me of your rich history than you are wrong. I too have seen war and come from a long line of Kings. However I have choosen a good path than you freaks. You two are trying my patience. Agree to meet with me J.L. We can at least talk about this calmly and like men.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 02:45
You both are evil men and deserve to rot in hell. Like I said I do not care about your history. I am more worried about the future. If you think you are going to wow me by telling me of your rich history than you are wrong. I too have seen war and come from a long line of Kings. However I have choosen a good path than you freaks. You two are trying my patience. Agree to meet with me J.L. We can at least talk about this calmly and like men.

-President Michael W. Nellis

If you come from kings, why are you a demagouge? You are a servant of deamons, who pleases himself by praising Ahriman and his creation. To you, no act is too base, including worship of the disgusting Shooban species.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:48
If you come from kings, why are you a demagouge? You are a servant of deamons, who pleases himself by praising Ahriman and his creation. To you, no act is too base, including worship of the disgusting Shooban species.

-Shah Khosru III

I do worship the Shoobans. How can you call yourself a great man yet kill so easily. My father was just like you. Then he went to far, and my people rebelled. Led by me. I hope that there is someone out there to take you down. I do not serve demons. I serve the will of the people of Nellisland, and they say to free the Shoobans!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 02:51
I do worship the Shoobans. How can you call yourself a great man yet kill so easily. My father was just like you. Then he went to far, and my people rebelled. Led by me. I hope that there is someone out there to take you down. I do not serve demons. I serve the will of the people of Nellisland, and they say to free the Shoobans!

-President Michael W. Nellis

My father was a man of iron who made the people agree with him, and killed those who didn't. When they protested for healthcare, he arrested them all, and their families and had them all impaled. When they demanded he abolish slavery, he removed the tounges of dissenting professors. Now, my nation loves me, for all who dissented were killed or die in my prisons and camps. The people do not know what they want, only a royal does.

-Shah Khosru III
Doomingsland
19-04-2005, 02:54
Official Imperial Response

We find your attempts at finding a reason to attack our allies quite amusing. As the great Shah and Genneralisimo have stated, Shoobans are NOT human. They are animals. Tell me, Mr. President, your nation is not run by the Animal Liberation Front, now, is it?

If so, then you are probably against hunting. Ah, yes, hunting. Shooban hunting is one of my nation's most favorite passtimes. Nothing beats closing with your prey and slowly tearing its head off of its shoulders with your bare hands, listening to his cries for help. Of course, the help never comes, for his cowardly friends are too concerned with saving themselves. Animal instinct at its finest, Mr. President.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:55
My father was a man of iron who made the people agree with him, and killed those who didn't. When they protested for healthcare, he arrested them all, and their families and had them all impaled. When they demanded he abolish slavery, he removed the tounges of dissenting professors. Now, my nation loves me, for all who dissented were killed or die in my prisons and camps. The people do not know what they want, only a royal does.

-Shah Khosru III

Key word: Made. Your father was a sick man. Oh yes...I know of him. He was unable to run his nation like a real man so he killed everyone who disagreed. Like a coward. You are the same way, a coward. A nation should be for the people not for the ruler. The people are the only ones who know what they want. Not a prissy man in a crown who sits on a thrown. I am for the people. You are heartless and callow man who does not desereve to be in power. I hope your people see this someday.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 02:56
Official Imperial Response

We find your attempts at finding a reason to attack our allies quite amusing. As the great Shah and Genneralisimo have stated, Shoobans are NOT human. They are animals. Tell me, Mr. President, your nation is not run by the Animal Liberation Front, now, is it?

If so, then you are probably against hunting. Ah, yes, hunting. Shooban hunting is one of my nation's most favorite passtimes. Nothing beats closing with your prey and slowly tearing its head off of its shoulders with your bare hands, listening to his cries for help. Of course, the help never comes, for his cowardly friends are too concerned with saving themselves. Animal instinct at its finest, Mr. President.

-Emperor Helldawg V

Yes but it is not as if Shoobans are deer my friend. I have no plans to attack either of these nations. That is a last and hopefully never option. But justice needs to be served hear. Let these people be free and live there lifes!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 03:01
Key word: Made. Your father was a sick man. Oh yes...I know of him. He was unable to run his nation like a real man so he killed everyone who disagreed. Like a coward. You are the same way, a coward. A nation should be for the people not for the ruler. The people are the only ones who know what they want. Not a prissy man in a crown who sits on a thrown. I am for the people. You are heartless and callow man who does not desereve to be in power. I hope your people see this someday.

-President Michael W. Nellis

He was not a sick man! He was indeed brutal, but he was kind and loving. Though he slaughtered dissidents by the thousands and virtually wiped out Parthian Communism, Socialism, Democracticism, and other evil philosophies, he was a man who loved his nation and had a vision for it. He disbanded the Majlis (Parliament) forced on his ancestors in 1906 and had the lefists hanged. You are right, a nation is for the people, but the people are like children who don't know what is good for them. The only cowards are those who will not go to any length to accomplish their agenda, like you.

-Shah Khosru III
Doomingsland
19-04-2005, 03:01
Yes but it is not as if Shoobans are deer my friend. I have no plans to attack either of these nations. That is a last and hopefully never option. But justice needs to be served hear. Let these people be free and live there lifes!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Official Imperial Response

Oh, do not worry, Mr. President. These Shoobans are free to live their lives until we feel they have lived long enough. Or, of course, until they work themselves to death.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 03:04
He was not a sick man! He was indeed brutal, but he was kind and loving. Though he slaughtered dissidents by the thousands and virtually wiped out Parthian Communism, Socialism, Democracticism, and other evil philosophies, he was a man who loved his nation and had a vision for it. He disbanded the Majlis (Parliament) forced on his ancestors in 1906 and had the lefists hanged. You are right, a nation is for the people, but the people are like children who don't know what is good for them. The only cowards are those who will not go to any length to accomplish their agenda, like you.

-Shah Khosru III

My agenda is a great one. You claim that I am a coward because I go to great lengths to see it accomplished but what do you think your father did. He murdered people for speaking there mind. Come on. Are you kidding me. You don't even have a good excuse to hide behind. The people know what they want. Freedom is what all want. Your people do to not have it. You father was a ruthless bastard and he was the true coward.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Lycan Confederacy
19-04-2005, 03:05
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The Parthians
19-04-2005, 03:07
My agenda is a great one. You claim that I am a coward because I go to great lengths to see it accomplished but what do you think your father did. He murdered people for speaking there mind. Come on. Are you kidding me. You don't even have a good excuse to hide behind. The people know what they want. Freedom is what all want. Your people do to not have it. You father was a ruthless bastard and he was the true coward.

-President Michael W. Nellis

People don't have a mind that is designed for ruling. Only a Shah, King, Emperor, Sultan, or Generalissimo can do something like that, the people are too stupid to. They know what they want, but what they want is often harmful to the nation, like free health care. My father was ruthless, but he was not a bastard, you half Shooban.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 03:11
People don't have a mind that is designed for ruling. Only a Shah, King, Emperor, Sultan, or Generalissimo can do something like that, the people are too stupid to. They know what they want, but what they want is often harmful to the nation, like free health care. My father was ruthless, but he was not a bastard, you half Shooban.

-Shah Khosru III

Please explain to me your logic of the dangers of free health care. Do you even listen to yourself when you talk. The people do not rule over all, but who better to decide who should rule than the people. They can pick who is best to lead them my friend. You father and you are bastards for what you have done in the time you have ruled. You could have been great rulers. Instead you will go down in history as ruthless maniacs who didn't care about there people. And if you think that insults are going to make me back down then are a very tiny man inside. Whats that matter did daddy not hug you enough.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 03:18
Please explain to me your logic of the dangers of free health care. Do you even listen to yourself when you talk. The people do not rule over all, but who better to decide who should rule than the people. They can pick who is best to lead them my friend. You father and you are bastards for what you have done in the time you have ruled. You could have been great rulers. Instead you will go down in history as ruthless maniacs who didn't care about there people. And if you think that insults are going to make me back down then are a very tiny man inside. Whats that matter did daddy not hug you enough.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Well, free health care is expensive, and inefficent. But thats not the point, I am just, and so was my father. We will be remembered as great rulers. My father for making one of the poorer nations of earth a first world one, and me for conquering the territories of the old Persian empire. I am a much greater ruler, and people would have taken a fool like you over a great man such as myself. My people truly love me for how well I treat them.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 03:21
OOC: How about an RP of pro-Shooban right protest in your nation. Then you can show how not oppresive you are to your people. I think it would be good fun.

Well, free health care is expensive, and inefficent. But thats not the point, I am just, and so was my father. We will be remembered as great rulers. My father for making one of the poorer nations of earth a first world one, and me for conquering the territories of the old Persian empire. I am a much greater ruler, and people would have taken a fool like you over a great man such as myself. My people truly love me for how well I treat them.

-Shah Khosru III

Do they really love you. Oppresion, Suppresion, and death if you think any other way. I do not believe that your people love you. It is that they are not given a chance to say anything else.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 03:24
OOC: How about an RP of pro-Shooban right protest in your nation. Then you can show how not oppresive you are to your people. I think it would be good fun.



Do they really love you. Oppresion, Suppresion, and death if you think any other way. I do not believe that your people love you. It is that they are not given a chance to say anything else.

-President Michael W. Nellis

OOC: Not possible, Shah Khosru is like a demigod, he is the chosen of Ahura Mazda. No religious Parthian will raise a finger against him and the rest respect him for how good their lives are.

IC:

They really do, I guess my father's method works.
-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 03:27
OOC: Okay....are there any other pro-shooban nations out there that i might be able to contact.


They really do, I guess my father's method works.
-Shah Khosru III

You are a sick man. It clearly runs in the family.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
19-04-2005, 03:35
‘President’ Michael W. Nellis, you call shoobans human. I’m more human like those damn things. You know what, I’m a vampire. And you saying that a shooban is better the J.L. and Khosru, is a ****ing joke. You are walking on thin ice right now because of that. Your best bet is to leave J.L. and Khosru to run their nation how every they ****ing want to. You sir, are not a leader. You are a bug, who is ruled by his people. I will leave you with these last words. Ich werde Sie ficken und werde einen netten Tag haben.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 03:45
‘President’ Michael W. Nellis, you call shoobans human. I’m more human like those damn things. You know what, I’m a vampire. And you saying that a shooban is better the J.L. and Khosru, is a ****ing joke. You are walking on thin ice right now because of that. Your best bet is to leave J.L. and Khosru to run their nation how every they ****ing want to. You sir, are not a leader. You are a bug, who is ruled by his people. I will leave you with these last words. Ich werde Sie ficken und werde einen netten Tag haben.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

"Ich werde Sie ficken und werde einen netten Tag haben" equals "F*** you and will have a nice day." Very nice to hear that. Imagine that you were treated like scum and killed everyday because you are a vampire. Shoobans are just as human as I am. Furthormore I am a leader that is for the people. Without hurting anyone I have a 95% approval rating throughout my nation. And right now Shoobans are better than those two. They are insane and afraid of freedom. Which is horrible.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Ameracadia
19-04-2005, 03:54
To All Great nations here, it appears discussion has reached an impass.
The Transylvania
19-04-2005, 03:58
"Ich werde Sie ficken und werde einen netten Tag haben" equals "F*** you and will have a nice day." Very nice to hear that. Imagine that you were treated like scum and killed everyday because you are a vampire. Shoobans are just as human as I am. Furthormore I am a leader that is for the people. Without hurting anyone I have a 95% approval rating throughout my nation. And right now Shoobans are better than those two. They are insane and afraid of freedom. Which is horrible.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Hey I was trying to be somewhat nice with ‘have a nice day’ part. You want some more info, Michael. I have not kill a human for blood in years. I use something called a Blood Bank. And you’re not getting it, shooban are not human and have a 50 IQ. They cannot talk correct English. Hell, my ghouls can talk right. Shooban will make a man go nuts. I got an idea; J.L. or Khosru sent you a Shooban to live with you. I bet after a week, you will kill the poor thing. I’m going to let you slide on calling me a scum because I’m a nice man, sometime. I will tell you something; don’t piss off a 10,000-year-old vampire, if you want to live.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 14:28
Hey I was trying to be somewhat nice with ‘have a nice day’ part. You want some more info, Michael. I have not kill a human for blood in years. I use something called a Blood Bank. And you’re not getting it, shooban are not human and have a 50 IQ. They cannot talk correct English. Hell, my ghouls can talk right. Shooban will make a man go nuts. I got an idea; J.L. or Khosru sent you a Shooban to live with you. I bet after a week, you will kill the poor thing. I’m going to let you slide on calling me a scum because I’m a nice man, sometime. I will tell you something; don’t piss off a 10,000-year-old vampire, if you want to live.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

Count, I would like to say that I did not call you scum. I asked you what you would feel if you were treated like scum. I also did not accuse you of killing humans, I know of your blood bank and think it is good thing what you do. Now back to Shoobans, perhaps the reason that they can not speak proper english is because they are not given a chance. If they were given proper rights and freedom then a bet you wold see much improvement. Lastly count, I do not take kindly to threats. Thank you.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
19-04-2005, 14:48
Count, I would like to say that I did not call you scum. I asked you what you would feel if you were treated like scum. I also did not accuse you of killing humans, I know of your blood bank and think it is good thing what you do. Now back to Shoobans, perhaps the reason that they can not speak proper english is because they are not given a chance. If they were given proper rights and freedom then a bet you wold see much improvement. Lastly count, I do not take kindly to threats. Thank you.

-President Michael W. Nellis


Oh...... You are worst then I thought you were. Somebody sent this man a Shooban. So, he can teach it how to speak proper English. I know what is going to happen. The Shooban will eat the book and throw rocks at you. That was more of a warning then a threat.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve
Nellisland
19-04-2005, 14:59
Oh...... You are worst then I thought you were. Somebody sent this man a Shooban. So, he can teach it how to speak proper English. I know what is going to happen. The Shooban will eat the book and throw rocks at you. That was more of a warning then a threat.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

Tell me what makes me the worst. Because I believe in equal rights for all. Because I don't believe in senseless killing. Because I am a man of the people and for the people. Does that make me a bad man. I think not good count. You have been threatening to send me a Shooban, why don't you send me all of them. They will fiund a good home in the U.S.N. Lastly I also don't take kindly to warning either!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
19-04-2005, 15:36
Tell me what makes me the worst. Because I believe in equal rights for all. Because I don't believe in senseless killing. Because I am a man of the people and for the people. Does that make me a bad man. I think not good count. You have been threatening to send me a Shooban, why don't you send me all of them. They will find a good home in the U.S.N. Lastly I also don't take kindly to warning either!

-President Michael W. Nellis

You are the worst because you are trying to do something that will be a waste of money and time. Shooban don't need to go to school or get anything that a human would get. From the stories that have been told to me by J.L. and the others, is that old Shoobans attack one of them and they took them over and made slaves of their people. Shooban will go nuts, if somebody says the word sausage. If you got one or all of them, you will have to watch what you said around them. They are nasty, ugly, poor people and need to be killed off. All of them need to be killed off but they make good workers, so that is why the other has them around. I will tell you something, there are not Shoobans in the Dominion and there will never be any Shoobans in the Dominion. We don't want hem because they will make our Wolfmen run off. I have a question for you, Mr. Nellis, have you ever seen a Shooban?

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve
The Parthians
19-04-2005, 15:43
OOC: Okay....are there any other pro-shooban nations out there that i might be able to contact.



You are a sick man. It clearly runs in the family.

-President Michael W. Nellis

I'm not half Shooban like you, though. Anyway, I'm shipping you one of these deplorable creatures in a crate to your nation, if you have a large package on your front door, pry it open and you can see how disturbing Shoobans are.

-Shah Khosru III
Doomingsland
19-04-2005, 15:56
Official Imperial Response

Do you honestly expect your "diplomacy" to get you anywhere, Mr. President?
Slayrule
19-04-2005, 15:57
I'm not half Shooban like you, though. Anyway, I'm shipping you one of these deplorable creatures in a crate to your nation, if you have a large package on your front door, pry it open and you can see how disturbing Shoobans are.

-Shah Khosru III
I think it would suffocate in the crate.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:00
Shoobans are just as human as I am.

-President Michael W. Nellis


Then you must not be very human.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Borman Empire
19-04-2005, 23:01
Official Imperial Statement:

Stop talking about Shoobans as if they were human! They never were and never will be.

Oh yeah, President Michael W. Nellis:

http://www.maddox.xmission.com/card5_inside_fin1.gif

OOC: The above was 100%IC, my emperor doesn't like people who support Shoobans.
Risban
19-04-2005, 23:22
Official Imperial Statement
All Imperial tests done on Shoobans purchased from the noble nation of Roach-Busters show that Shoobans are, indeed, not even near being human. Tests show that Risban Scorpions, Risbanian Tree Monkeys and primates with our zoos are of a much higher intelligence than these Shoobans.
Several civil rights advocates within the Grand Imperium of Risban, such as our Chancellor of Parliament and new empress, Countess Nora Courtney, freed a pack of approximately twenty-five Shoobans in hopes of proving that they are capable of showing intelligence, independence, and respect for freedom. After a week, eleven of them were found dead. Ten others had to be put down after attacking people on their ways to the mall. The others were captured and put back into captivity at the Imperial Zoo in Risban City after being found walking around in circles in the Legato Forum, scaring foreign diplomats.
Thus, the Grand Imperium of Risban is quite certain that they are not human. We do not believe that Nellisland has any right to interfere with the animal rights of other nations. I mean, perhaps nations who like the Very Deadly Viper should go after Nellisland for allowing the snake to be a favorite main course among its citizens.

-Doctor Steven Jerik, Minister of Scientific Research
-Professor Sybill Aerulius, Minister of Paranormal Affairs
-Doctor Eve Pelonius, Vice-Minister of Zoological Services
MassPwnage
19-04-2005, 23:23
"*Is eating a still living Shooban* You know, Shooban, is a REALLY tasty kind of meat. It's buttery smooth like Foie Gras, low in fat too. *keeps eating as the Shooban screams*"-The Great Leader Li.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:40
"*Is eating a still living Shooban* You know, Shooban, is a REALLY tasty kind of meat. It's buttery smooth like Foie Gras, low in fat too. *keeps eating as the Shooban screams*"-The Great Leader Li.


You have disgusting eating habits. You do know that Shoobans drink out of toilets and eat decomposing animal carcasses, fecal matter, and expired limburger cheese, right? Not to mention the fact that they never bathe, and are festering with millions of lice, fleas, ticks, and God only knows what other parasites.

-Generalissimo J.L.
LannaN
19-04-2005, 23:46
Good job, Nellisland. You have my support.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:47
Good job, Nellisland. You have my support.


I am very disappointed to hear that, my dear.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Macabees
19-04-2005, 23:49
Macabee transports have begun to work overtime in order to ensure speedy delivery of any weapons purchased from Kriegzimmer from Roach-Busters. This ordered good will arrive much faster than previously thought.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:51
Macabee transports have begun to work overtime in order to ensure speedy delivery of any weapons purchased from Kriegzimmer from Roach-Busters. This ordered good will arrive much faster than previously thought.


Thanks.

-Generalissimo J.L.
MassPwnage
19-04-2005, 23:52
"*Finishes eating the Shooban* So? Your average pig has a diet twice as disgusting as that."-The Great Leader Li

Fun Fact: Farmers make pigs drink ditch liquor. Ditch liquor is basically fermented feces, both from the pig itself and from other barnyard animals.
Roach-Busters
19-04-2005, 23:54
"*Finishes eating the Shooban* So? Your average pig has a diet twice as disgusting as that."-The Great Leader Li

Fun Fact: Farmers make pigs drink ditch liquor. Ditch liquor is basically fermented feces, both from the pig itself and from other barnyard animals.


Only a barbarian, a freak, a moron, or a sub-Shooban would debase himself to eat Shooban meat.

-Generalissimo J.L.
MassPwnage
20-04-2005, 00:01
"Proud to be a freak. You seriously ought to try it sometime. Besides, farm raised Shooban is 1000% less filthy than non-farmed Shooban."-The Great Leader Li.
LannaN
20-04-2005, 01:34
I am very disappointed to hear that, my dear.

-Generalissimo J.L.
[OOC: You know I love you, J :)]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, Generalissimo J.L. I'm hope my decision will have no affect on our friendship.

P.S. Sorry I didn't make it to the party for your baby... should send me some pictures? :)
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 01:38
[OOC: You know I love you, J :)]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, Generalissimo J.L. I'm hope my decision will have no affect on our friendship.

P.S. Sorry I didn't make it to the party for your baby... should send me some pictures? :)

(OOC: I know. :fluffle: )

IC:

If you really were sorry, you'd renounce your revolting lack of hatred toward Shooban scum.

-Generalissimo J.L.

P.S. Oh, and she's not a baby. We adopted her. She's sixteen, and loves hunting Shoobans even more than me.
LannaN
20-04-2005, 01:46
(OOC: I know. :fluffle: )

IC:

If you really were sorry, you'd renounce your revolting lack of hatred toward Shooban scum.

-Generalissimo J.L.

P.S. Oh, and she's not a baby. We adopted her. She's sixteen, and loves hunting Shoobans even more than me.
Haha, she's 16? Wow! I didn't know that... I remember that she was adopted (heard it from someone), but didn't know she was a teenager. Ahh, my bad, friend.

I am really sorry... You know I believe in God deeply (IC and OOC), and I will not tolerate anyone hurting what God have created. I have been quiet for too long!
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 01:47
Haha, she's 16? Wow! I didn't know that... I remember that she was adopted (heard it from someone), but didn't know she was a teenager. Ahh, my bad, friend.

I am really sorry... You know I believe in God deeply (IC and OOC), and I will not tolerate anyone hurting what God have created. I have been quiet for too long!

My dear, God did not create the Shoobans. They were created by Satan, just as the communists were.

-Generalissimo J.L.
LannaN
20-04-2005, 01:51
My dear, God did not create the Shoobans. They were created by Satan, just as the communists were.

-Generalissimo J.L.
You don't have proof... but just incase God didn't create them, didn't we learn a little something in elementary school? That little thing was called, 'respect?'
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 01:54
You don't have proof... but just incase God didn't create them, didn't we learn a little something in elementary school? That little thing was called, 'respect?'

Hmm...I must have missed it.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 01:57
You don't have proof... but just incase God didn't create them, didn't we learn a little something in elementary school? That little thing was called, 'respect?'

Having respect for a creation of Satan is the same as respecting Lucifer himself. This is blasphemy, and for this you shall be punished by the good and mighty Lord, and thrown forever into the most putrid depths of Hell with your dark master, Satan.

Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
LannaN
20-04-2005, 01:57
Hmm...I must have missed it.

-Generalissimo J.L.
I'm sure you did...

[OOC: lol J, you're so evil in the game!]
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:01
Having respect for a creation of Satan is the same as respecting Lucifer himself. This is blasphemy, and for this you shall be punished by the good and mighty Lord, and thrown forever into the most putrid depths of Hell with your dark master, Satan.

Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
You don't have any proof that Shoobans are creation of Satan... for all I know, you and your people can be descendants of the devil.

If God will punish me for having respect and standing up for the Shoobans, then he isn't worth anyone's prayers, but one thing I know for sure, God isn't like what you've said.
The Parthians
20-04-2005, 02:04
Shoobans are the creation of Ahriman, and it is commanded that the creatures of Ahriman be killed whenever possible.

-Shah Khosru III
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:06
You don't have any proof that Shoobans are creation of Satan... for all I know, you and your people can be descendants of the devil.

If God will punish me for having respect and standing up for the Shoobans, then he isn't worth anyone's prayers, but one thing I know for sure, God isn't like what you've said.

You must be of the opinion that God is the soft and weak God that your leftist society would have you believe. Your corrupt protestant churches atheist governments have polluted the notion of the Almighty so that he is as nothing. But that is not how the divine exists, for he is the one absolute truth, and he will have his vengeance upon you and your society for your perversion of his name. Let his justice fall upon you as it falls upon the creations of his nemesis, Lucifer, in the form of the righteous hands of Generia, Roach-Busters, and Parthia. Let his name echoe in the crack of every whip, that the world may be purified of leftist corruption.

Praise to his name!

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:07
Shoobans are the creation of Ahriman, and it is commanded that the creatures of Ahriman be killed whenever possible.

-Shah Khosru III
You don't know that for sure... and just because someone is meant to die doesn't mean they should.
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:12
You must be of the opinion that God is the soft and weak God that your leftist society would have you believe. Your corrupt protestant churches atheist governments have polluted the notion of the Almighty so that he is as nothing. But that is not how the divine exists, for he is the one absolute truth, and he will have his vengeance upon you and your society for your perversion of his name. Let his justice fall upon you as it falls upon the creations of his nemesis, Lucifer, in the form of the righteous hands of Generia, Roach-Busters, and Parthia. Let his name echoe in the crack of every whip, that the world may be purified of leftist corruption.

Praise to his name!

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
[OOC: you make me laugh... in a good way, of course ;)]

Everyone have their own ways of viewing God. Keep yours to yourself and I will do the same. Just to let you know, even though the citizens of LannaN and Lanna herself believe in God. We don't have a Church, nor we have a religion.
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:12
Good job, Nellisland. You have my support.

OOC: LannaN...I would like to have private talks. You up for it?

That you for your support LannaN. I am glad that there are sensable nations out there as well. Unlike the these horrible men. Neverless, let us work together to free the Shoobans.

Satan did not create the Shoobans for Satan does not have respect for any type of life on earth. His purpose is to cause hatred in the world. To use people like J.L. the Shah. They truly are ruled by Satan. He doesn't have it in him to create anything. He is full of hatred for everything on earth and can never create anything on earth. Not even Shoobans. Shoobans were created by God and it is his will that they be free!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
20-04-2005, 02:16
OOC: LannaN...I would like to have private talks. You up for it?

That you for your support LannaN. I am glad that there are sensable nations out there as well. Unlike the these horrible men. Neverless, let us work together to free the Shoobans.

Satan did not create the Shoobans for Satan does not have respect for any type of life on earth. His purpose is to cause hatred in the world. To use people like J.L. the Shah. They truly are ruled by Satan. He doesn't have it in him to create anything. He is full of hatred for everything on earth and can never create anything on earth. Not even Shoobans. Shoobans were created by God and it is his will that they be free!

-President Michael W. Nellis

I don't believe in Satan, I believe in Ahura Mazda, the source of all good and that he orders those who seek to do good to smite Ahriman. Since Shoobans are creatures of Ahriman, they should be killed to help rid the world of evil so that Ahura Mazda will reign supreme.

-Shah Khosru III
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:16
OOC: LannaN...I would like to have private talks. You up for it?
Hmmm... okay :)
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:17
I don't believe in Satan, I believe in Ahura Mazda, the source of all good and that he orders those who seek to do good to smite Ahriman. Since Shoobans are creatures of Ahriman, they should be killed to help rid the world of evil so that Ahura Mazda will reign supreme.

-Shah Khosru III
You silly person... if you are to smite Ahriman, then it should mean that the Shoobans are its victim... meaning you should save them, not kill them.
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:18
Look how the atheist scum naturally turn to the frayed logic of their dark master. But they are not atheists at all, for since they have no God, they follow the way of darkness, the way of evil, the way of sin and Satan, the path to eternal death. Let them wander into the fires and brimstone saunas of the abyss, that we of the enlightened way shall never be forced to look upon them in the presence of the one truth, the Almighty God.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:21
Look how the atheist scum naturally turn to the frayed logic of their dark master. But they are not atheists at all, for since they have no God, they follow the way of darkness, the way of evil, the way of sin and Satan, the path to eternal death. Let them wander into the fires and brimstone saunas of the abyss, that we of the enlightened way shall never be forced to look upon them in the presence of the one truth, the Almighty God.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
[OOC: are you referring that to me or the Shoobans?]

I don't know who you are referring that to, but whoever that follows the Satan in your words... well, at least they haven't killed anyone like you did.
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:23
[OOC: are you referring that to me or the Shoobans?]

((OOC: Well, both I suppose. According to the crazy bishop, you're all Godless heathens.))
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:23
Hmmm... okay :)

OOC: Okay I will make a thread. It will mainly concern with what we should do with the Shooban thing.
The Parthians
20-04-2005, 02:26
You silly person... if you are to smite Ahriman, then it should mean that the Shoobans are its victim... meaning you should save them, not kill them.
They are his creation. Not his victims.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:26
OOC:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8713258#post8713258

There ya go!
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:27
((OOC: Well, both I suppose. According to the crazy bishop, you're all Godless heathens.))
I may be a Godless heathen, but I sure didn't kill anyone. The Shoobans may be Godless heathens, but they also haven't killed anyone.
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:28
I may be a Godless heathen, but I sure didn't kill anyone. The Shoobans may be Godless heathens, but they also haven't killed anyone.

Nor do they deserve to die for that matter!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:28
I may be a Godless heathen, but I sure didn't kill anyone. The Shoobans may be Godless heathens, but they also haven't killed anyone.

((OOC: Was that in or out of character?))
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:30
They are his creation. Not his victims.

-Shah Khosru III
Did Ahura Mazda came into your dreams and told you that?

Just because they are Ahriman's creation doesn't mean they are like him... for instance, God created humans... and there are many people who don't believe his existance. So shouldn't they also be killed? Or maybe God never existed, but we believed he did, then shouldn't we be killed?
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:30
Nor do they deserve to die for that matter!

-President Michael W. Nellis

To die is a merciful fate for the spawn of Satan. I personally have spent days, occasionally weeks, torturing the monsters into admitting to their status as the spawn of Lucifer, and making them realize the true path of the Almighty God and the Lord Christ, that they may be relinquished from their lives of darkness and be allowed passage back through the dark gates to join their evil master.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:31
((OOC: Was that in or out of character?))
[OOC: that was IC]
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:32
[OOC: that was IC]

((OOC: Alright. Then consider the above response to you as well.))
The Parthians
20-04-2005, 02:34
Did Ahura Mazda came into your dreams and told you that?

Just because they are Ahriman's creation doesn't mean they are like him... for instance, God created humans... and there are many people who don't believe his existance. So shouldn't they also be killed? Or maybe God never existed, but we believed he did, then shouldn't we be killed?

The Avesta spells it out cleanly enough, as do our other scriptures.

-Shah Khosru III
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:37
To die is a merciful fate for the spawn of Satan. I personally have spent days, occasionally weeks, torturing the monsters into admitting to their status as the spawn of Lucifer, and making them realize the true path of the Almighty God and the Lord Christ, that they may be relinquished from their lives of darkness and be allowed passage back through the dark gates to join their evil master.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
You're also another silly person... the reason why they admitted was because they didn't want to die. If you don't believe me, I suggest we do some little 'experiment' on your people.
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:37
To die is a merciful fate for the spawn of Satan. I personally have spent days, occasionally weeks, torturing the monsters into admitting to their status as the spawn of Lucifer, and making them realize the true path of the Almighty God and the Lord Christ, that they may be relinquished from their lives of darkness and be allowed passage back through the dark gates to join their evil master.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

Do you honestly believe that God would have you kill the Shoobans. God...the merciful that you hide behind. The Shoobans have done nothing to you or God for that matter. Let them go, and let God decide their fate.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:42
Do you honestly believe that God would have you kill the Shoobans. God...the merciful that you hide behind. The Shoobans have done nothing to you or God for that matter. Let them go, and let God decide their fate.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Done nothing to the Almighty?! Their very existence is an affront to his name! To serve him we cannot "let them go" as you so conveniently suggest! They must be purged, for it is as god wills it, to defeat the enemy Lucifer and all of his creations. You insult him with your defense of his enemy! You affront him as they, and prove yourself no more worthy, nay, less so than those miserable abominations you seek to save from justice!

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:44
Done nothing to the Almighty?! Their very existence is an affront to his name! To serve him we cannot "let them go" as you so conveniently suggest! They must be purged, for it is as god wills it, to defeat the enemy Lucifer and all of his creations. You insult him with your defense of his enemy! You affront him as they, and prove yourself no more worthy, nay, less so than those miserable abominations you seek to save from justice!

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
There should be a trial in Heaven or wherever you God is... and he should begone.
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:44
You're also another silly person... the reason why they admitted was because they didn't want to die. If you don't believe me, I suggest we do some little 'experiment' on your people.

What they speak in their confession is the truth, and therefore it is the Almighty who wills it from them, as his sit he ultimate and sole absolute truth. Satan's power is no match for that of The Authority, and the miserable beings crumble under his will. The truly faithful will not renounce the truth to save themselves from martyrdom, yet for the creations of Lucifer, there is no martyrdom, for their existence is temporal and bound to his black essence.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:47
What they speak in their confession is the truth, and therefore it is the Almighty who wills it from them, as his sit he ultimate and sole absolute truth. Satan's power is no match for that of The Authority, and the miserable beings crumble under his will. The truly faithful will not renounce the truth to save themselves from martyrdom, yet for the creations of Lucifer, there is no martyrdom, for their existence is temporal and bound to his black essence.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

Everyone and everything can find God. Do you believe in God's eyes you are going to heaven. Because I don't. It is not God;s will nor his message to kill mercifully like you do. You are a horrible person and will spend the rest of your afterlife with Satan. God wants these creatures free!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:48
There should be a trial in Heaven or wherever you God is... and he should begone.

God's authority is absolute. There can be no 'trial' of God, for any 'evidence' against him you might produce would be so insignificant according to his flawless and absolute will that it would be moot, and you would still be damned for eternity to the fires of your maker, Satan.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 02:50
Everyone and everything can find God. Do you believe in God's eyes you are going to heaven. Because I don't. It is not God;s will nor his message to kill mercifully like you do. You are a horrible person and will spend the rest of your afterlife with Satan. God wants these creatures free!

-President Michael W. Nellis

I do not, as you, pretend to be able to dictate the fate of God's creations, however, Shoobanity is a creation of the dark lord Satan, and its fate is assured through the absolute will of the Almighty and the teachings of his only son Christ, whom he dispatched to die for the sins of God's people, who would follow his will and aid in the destruction of the creations of his nemesis.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 02:52
I do not, as you, pretend to be able to dictate the fate of God's creations, however, Shoobanity is a creation of the dark lord Satan, and its fate is assured through the absolute will of the Almighty and the teachings of his only son Christ, whom he dispatched to die for the sins of God's people, who would follow his will and aid in the destruction of the creations of his nemesis.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

What real prove do you have the they are created by Satan. As I have already said Satan can not create because he doesn't fathom ho wnayone can do such a thing. That is why he rebelled against God and was sent to hell. Just like you will. Do you believe that Jesus would pick a gun and shot a Shooban. That doesn't sound like something he would do does it.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
20-04-2005, 02:57
What real prove do you have the they are created by Satan. As I have already said Satan can not create because he doesn't fathom ho wnayone can do such a thing. That is why he rebelled against God and was sent to hell. Just like you will. Do you believe that Jesus would pick a gun and shot a Shooban. That doesn't sound like something he would do does it.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Zarathustra would, and Zarathustra is Ahura Mazda's chosen.

-Shah Khosru III
LannaN
20-04-2005, 02:59
God's authority is absolute. There can be no 'trial' of God, for any 'evidence' against him you might produce would be so insignificant according to his flawless and absolute will that it would be moot, and you would still be damned for eternity to the fires of your maker, Satan.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Surprisingly... I have proof.
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 03:01
What real prove do you have the they are created by Satan. As I have already said Satan can not create because he doesn't fathom ho wnayone can do such a thing. That is why he rebelled against God and was sent to hell. Just like you will. Do you believe that Jesus would pick a gun and shot a Shooban. That doesn't sound like something he would do does it.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Their very existence is proof that they are created by Satan. God would never create something as vile and disgusting as they, lest his name be impurified, and as the name of the Almighty is pure by nature, it cannot be impurified by the creation of the impure. Thus, the Shooban is a creation of the impure, and the evil.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 03:03
Surprisingly... I have proof.

Then assuming you do not lie, though I am certain you do, due to the very essence of your imperfect nature as corrupted by your dark lord Satan, your proof must be a product of evil and thus be by nature flawed.


-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Borman Empire
20-04-2005, 03:05
What real prove do you have the they are created by Satan. As I have already said Satan can not create because he doesn't fathom ho wnayone can do such a thing. That is why he rebelled against God and was sent to hell. Just like you will. Do you believe that Jesus would pick a gun and shot a Shooban. That doesn't sound like something he would do does it.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Yes he would. For the minions of hell are made to destroy any and all peoples and order on our little round rock called earth. And you, you vile monster who defends the assassins of satan and rejects the truth of archbishops. You who challenges the existence and role of god, who defies his will. How do you live with yourself? By the power invested in me by the allmighty himself I hereby excommunicate President Michael W. Nellis from the catholic church, the christian faith, the land of Borman, the land of Generia, the gates of heaven, and a peaceful after life. May you forever rot in hell with the dark lord you so willingly serve.

-Pope Pius XI
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 03:09
Their very existence is proof that they are created by Satan. God would never create something as vile and disgusting as they, lest his name be impurified, and as the name of the Almighty is pure by nature, it cannot be impurified by the creation of the impure. Thus, the Shooban is a creation of the impure, and the evil.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

You claim that God wouldn't create something so vile yet he created you did he not!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 03:11
Due to your repeated heretical and Satanist declarations, I have no choice but to do God's will, and take measures to purge your vile, black, worthless souls of their heathen mortal bodies and commit them to eternal suffering and damnation in Hell.

President Michael W. Nellis and the leader of the nation of LannaN are hereby declared enemies of God, Christ, the Holy Virgin, and their Holy Orthodox Church here on Earth. To any who can deliver these servants of Lucifer into my hands, dead or alive, eternal salvation and a blessed life on Earth shall be forever yours. May God bless your noble quest, and deliver sinners to justice through his arms on Earth.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 03:14
Due to your repeated heretical and Satanist declarations, I have no choice but to do God's will, and take measures to purge your vile, black, worthless souls of their heathen mortal bodies and commit them to eternal suffering and damnation in Hell.

President Michael W. Nellis and the leader of the nation of LannaN are hereby declared enemies of God, Christ, the Holy Virgin, and their Holy Orthodox Church here on Earth. To any who can deliver these servants of Lucifer into my hands, dead or alive, eternal salvation and a blessed life on Earth shall be forever yours. May God bless your noble quest, and deliver sinners to justice through his arms on Earth.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

God will bless and protect us, and we will see you is in heaven at the end!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Borman Empire
20-04-2005, 03:34
God will bless and protect us, and we will see you is in heaven at the end!

-President Michael W. Nellis

That's right, you will see he is in heaven. And you will be looking up at him from the fiery damnation of hell.

-Pope Pius XI
Setian-Sebeceans
20-04-2005, 03:38
Imperial Response:

We beleive that these 'shoobans' are harmless, however we feel that the homosexual community and the elven peoples are UnterMenschen... sorry... subhuman and should be sent out the airlock.

Signed,
Amb. Herold Gever
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 03:43
Imperial Response:

We beleive that these 'shoobans' are harmless, however we feel that the homosexual community and the elven peoples are UnterMenschen... sorry... subhuman and should be sent out the airlock.

Signed,
Amb. Herold Gever

The Church of Generia shares your view on homosexuals, that they should be, as you say "sent out the airlock", though we maintain that the Shoobans are as if not more harmful to the society of God's people.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 03:45
The Church of Generia shares your view on homosexuals, that they should be, as you say "sent out the airlock", though we maintain that the Shoobans are as if not more harmful to the society of God's people.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

Explain to me how they are harmful to society. I am wondering?

-President Michael W. Nellis
Setian-Sebeceans
20-04-2005, 03:47
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413606

Take it here
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 03:48
Explain to me how they are harmful to society. I am wondering?

-President Michael W. Nellis

The servants of Satan seek only to corrupt the world at any cost. They are already at work in your mind, twisting your morals to suit their hideous desire. They wish to make slaves of the good people of God and breed with their wives. I ask you this, soon to be expunged one, would you give your wife or daughter to a Shooban, that he would have his way with her? The beasts are black of nature and must be expunged lest they corrupt all that God has made in his image.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia
Setian-Sebeceans
20-04-2005, 03:58
The Holy Three* have declared the Shoobans as subSebecean and are scum... Shah'dann-emlakarr**

*Setian 'Gods' Creators of the Sebecean Race-

**Shah'dann-emlakarr is basically holy war like: Jihad.
Sharina
20-04-2005, 04:04
OOC:

What's a Shoobsban exactly? Could someone fill me in OOC'ly? What are they, why does many people hate them, etc.

Perhaps we could involve Shoosbans in our RP, Roach-Busters. Maybe that'd be something good to try out? :)
Generic empire
20-04-2005, 04:05
OOC:

What's a Shoobsban exactly? Could someone fill me in OOC'ly? What are they, why does many people hate them, etc.

Perhaps we could involve Shoosbans in our RP, Roach-Busters. Maybe that'd be something good to try out? :)

((OOC: The history and nature of the 'Shooban':

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8713927&postcount=5 ))
Tocrowkia
20-04-2005, 04:53
Imperial Response:

We beleive that these 'shoobans' are harmless, however we feel that the homosexual community and the elven peoples are UnterMenschen... sorry... subhuman and should be sent out the airlock.

Signed,
Amb. Herold Gever


What's wrong with Elves, craven dogs?
Setian-Sebeceans
20-04-2005, 05:02
What's wrong with Elves, craven dogs?

Their nature, and the threat they pose to the Grand Sebecean Democratic Imperium
Tocrowkia
20-04-2005, 05:03
Their nature, and the threat they pose to the Grand Sebecean Democratic Imperium


Do explain.
Setian-Sebeceans
20-04-2005, 05:11
Do explain.

Their space and a few of their worlds are near to the outer colonies of the GSDI and have conducted raids on our mining stations in the area. THeir actions gave us cause to declare war on a local elven planet, and assault and enslave the populace. Although they have never made and incursion inside the Sebecean core area we feel that they area a large enough threat.
Sharina
20-04-2005, 07:28
Thanks, Generic Empire. I appreciate the explaination, this reminds me of a few movies regarding "de-evolution". Super Mario Brothers (Koopa devolved his prisoners), Dr. Moreau (blend humans with animals), and Primal (I think, not sure if right name).

Is this happening on Earth RB or NS Earth? Just wondering for sake of possible RP down the line.



Also, Setian-Sebecans, I thought this was MT? When did inter-planetary colonies come into play? :confused:
Borman Empire
20-04-2005, 12:26
This happens everywhere, every earth.
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 15:06
Nor do they deserve to die for that matter!

-President Michael W. Nellis

On the contrary; they deserve to die. They are nothing more than spawns of Hell.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 15:10
I do not, as you, pretend to be able to dictate the fate of God's creations, however, Shoobanity is a creation of the dark lord Satan, and its fate is assured through the absolute will of the Almighty and the teachings of his only son Christ, whom he dispatched to die for the sins of God's people, who would follow his will and aid in the destruction of the creations of his nemesis.

-Bohuslav Nr'iensk,
Archbishop of Sofia

(OOC: ROFLMAO!!! :D)
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 15:41
On the contrary; they deserve to die. They are nothing more than spawns of Hell.

-Generalissimo J.L.

You have no prove that they were created by Satan. No body deserves to die until they have done something wrong. Being born is not one of them.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 15:46
You have no prove that they were created by Satan. No body deserves to die until they have done something wrong. Being born is not one of them.

-President Michael W. Nellis

This picture (http://www.geocities.com/mr_whud/Shooban.JPG) is proof enough! Nothing could be this hideous unless it was conceived by the Devil himself.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Roach-Busters
20-04-2005, 21:55
bump
Nellisland
20-04-2005, 22:07
This picture (http://www.geocities.com/mr_whud/Shooban.JPG) is proof enough! Nothing could be this hideous unless it was conceived by the Devil himself.

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L...J.L...you just don't seem to get it. God does not care what his creatures look like. He cares about them. I agree that the Shoobans are not very good looking. What an even more reason for them to be mad by God. I seen you J.L. and I think you look a bit like a Shooban.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Nellisland
21-04-2005, 02:08
bump
Roach-Busters
21-04-2005, 02:14
J.L...J.L...you just don't seem to get it. God does not care what his creatures look like. He cares about them. I agree that the Shoobans are not very good looking. What an even more reason for them to be mad by God. I seen you J.L. and I think you look a bit like a Shooban.

-President Michael W. Nellis

You stupid shit, I look nothing of the sort! I am related to some of history's greatest individuals, I am not some mere commoner like yourself. I am related, distantly or directly, via blood or marriage, to Ian Smith, Alfredo Stroessner, Joseph McCarthy, Anastasio Somoza Garcia, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Luis Somoza Debayle, George Papadopoulos, Fulgencio Batista, Augusto Pinochet, Francisco Franco, Antonio de Oliveira Salazar, Ludwig von Mises of Austria, Draza Mihailovich, Robert E. Lee, Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson, Patrick Henry, and Adam Smith. I bet you can't say the same.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
21-04-2005, 02:54
J.L...J.L...you just don't seem to get it. God does not care what his creatures look like. He cares about them. I agree that the Shoobans are not very good looking. What an even more reason for them to be mad by God. I seen you J.L. and I think you look a bit like a Shooban.

-President Michael W. Nellis

You fool, do you not understand the nature of the world? Both Ahura Mazda and Ahriman have seprate creations of their own within this world that serves as their battlefield. To benefit the side of good, people in my nation would kill servants of Ahriman for no apparent reason. (Herodotus reported the Ancient Persian Magi would slaughter insects and other creatures of Ahriman whenever they got the chance). Shoobans are also these creatures in service to the dark lord, thus, they deserve it.

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
21-04-2005, 15:34
You stupid shit, I look nothing of the sort! I am related to some of history's greatest individuals, I am not some mere commoner like yourself. I am related, distantly or directly, via blood or marriage, to Ian Smith, Alfredo Stroessner, Joseph McCarthy, Anastasio Somoza Garcia, Anastasio Somoza Debayle, Luis Somoza Debayle, George Papadopoulos, Fulgencio Batista, Augusto Pinochet, Francisco Franco, Antonio de Oliveira Salazar, Ludwig von Mises of Austria, Draza Mihailovich, Robert E. Lee, Thomas 'Stonewall' Jackson, Patrick Henry, and Adam Smith. I bet you can't say the same.

-Generalissimo J.L.

I could care less who you are related too. It means nothing to me, and most of them are ugly anyway. Nice try though!

-President Michael W. Nellis
Gyrobot
21-04-2005, 16:11
We the Republic of Gyrobot backs the shoobans and Neilsand policy. Too long have the Shoobans suffered under the iron fisted grip of the despotic nations. Our Nation has been working to free shoobans from the grip of nations who want to make this race suffer until they die of extinction. Our roots of shoobans happened when a previous civilization glyphs in our great country was found on the ruins. It was said the shoobans who reside here are part of an highly advanced race who colonized here. They have powerful overminds who ruled our lands with an unknowing group of humans. However our people rebelled when shoobans adapted to a new religion which required young women and children as sacrifices and a terrible war was fought. One of our nations ancestors slew the overmind and freed Gyrobot from a 2000 year dictatorship. Soon Shoobans left the land in paranoia that they will hunt them down next which our nation have no intention of since they just want to be free, they have no desire to dominate another group of people violently. They left and founded the nation that RB soon destroyed and accepted as his own and the shoobans are reduced to slaves. As years went by without outcry of this act of barbaracy. Action was soon taken by our people who secretly risked their lives to save a group who looked over them for over 2000 years. It soon lead to protests by our nation and soon it escalated to riots and slowly going towards terrorism. they called themselves the shooban liberation front and their goal is to avenge any shoobans who was a victim of the unjust crimes by acting in kind to the nation who committed that crime's citizens in order to give a taste of their own medicine. We the republic noticed your decrying of Shooban rights violation and will stand behind it regardless of international opinion.
Nellisland
21-04-2005, 21:47
We the Republi backs the shoobans and Neilands policy

OOC: Can we please use proper English. Sorry but I am wierd like that.

Bump
The Parthians
21-04-2005, 21:50
You fool, do you not understand the nature of the world? Both Ahura Mazda and Ahriman have seprate creations of their own within this world that serves as their battlefield. To benefit the side of good, people in my nation would kill servants of Ahriman for no apparent reason. (Herodotus reported the Ancient Persian Magi would slaughter insects and other creatures of Ahriman whenever they got the chance). Shoobans are also these creatures in service to the dark lord, thus, they deserve it.

-Shah Khosru III

No answer, demagouge Nellis?
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 00:08
No answer, demagouge Nellis?

Don't forget, my friend, he is half Shooban. Perhaps your dialogue is too complex for his 'brain?'

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 00:25
Don't forget, my friend, he is half Shooban. Perhaps your dialogue is too complex for his 'brain?'

-Generalissimo J.L.

Indeed, I would have better luck talking to my pet leopards.

-Shah Khosru III
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 00:27
Indeed, I would have better luck talking to my pet leopards.

-Shah Khosru III

You have pet leopards? I have some lions. They love tearing apart Shoobans just as much as we do. Oh, and did you hear about the half-Shooban/half-human who was born in RB recently?

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 00:38
You have pet leopards? I have some lions. They love tearing apart Shoobans just as much as we do. Oh, and did you hear about the half-Shooban/half-human who was born in RB recently?

-Generalissimo J.L.

I have leopards and tigers. You did see those two Bengali beauties I keep in the room under the trap door, where I drop the Shoobans into.

-Shah Khosru III
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 00:40
I have leopards and tigers. You did see those two Bengali beauties I keep in the room under the trap door, where I drop the Shoobans into.

-Shah Khosru III

Indeed I did. You should feed some Nellislandians to them as well.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 00:43
Indeed I did. You should feed some Nellislandians to them as well.

-Generalissimo J.L.

A most excellent idea! All Nellisland citizens in Parthia are now being rounded up.

-Shah Khosru III
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 00:44
A most excellent idea! All Nellisland citizens in Parthia are now being rounded up.

-Shah Khosru III

I'm going to use scaphism on all Nellislandians in RB.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Borman Empire
22-04-2005, 00:49
We the Republic of Gyrobot backs the shoobans and Neilsand policy. Too long have the Shoobans suffered under the iron fisted grip of the despotic nations. Our Nation has been working to free shoobans from the grip of nations who want to make this race suffer until they die of extinction. Our roots of shoobans happened when a previous civilization glyphs in our great country was found on the ruins. It was said the shoobans who reside here are part of an highly advanced race who colonized here. They have powerful overminds who ruled our lands with an unknowing group of humans. However our people rebelled when shoobans adapted to a new religion which required young women and children as sacrifices and a terrible war was fought. One of our nations ancestors slew the overmind and freed Gyrobot from a 2000 year dictatorship. Soon Shoobans left the land in paranoia that they will hunt them down next which our nation have no intention of since they just want to be free, they have no desire to dominate another group of people violently. They left and founded the nation that RB soon destroyed and accepted as his own and the shoobans are reduced to slaves. As years went by without outcry of this act of barbaracy. Action was soon taken by our people who secretly risked their lives to save a group who looked over them for over 2000 years. It soon lead to protests by our nation and soon it escalated to riots and slowly going towards terrorism. they called themselves the shooban liberation front and their goal is to avenge any shoobans who was a victim of the unjust crimes by acting in kind to the nation who committed that crime's citizens in order to give a taste of their own medicine. We the republic noticed your decrying of Shooban rights violation and will stand behind it regardless of international opinion.

"This is complete bullshit. Everything form teh beginning of the Shoobans to the current, all of this is false."

-Pope Pius XI

"Thi sotry which you present is completely fabricated. The Shoobans originate from Shoobooshaaba. An island in the middle of Africa. Their primitive minds were too small to develop a way to cross the waters surrounding their lands and they were trapped there untill a coalition including myslef, Generic Empire, the Parthians and relatively small players of Roach-Busters (OOC: For some reason I remember you haivng a small part, I'm lookign up the war now) and Grenval conquered them."

-Lead historians within the Borneric Empire of Uberness
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 00:53
"This is complete bullshit. Everything form teh beginning of the Shoobans to the current, all of this is false."

-Pope Pius XI

"Thi sotry which you present is completely fabricated. The Shoobans originate from Shoobooshaaba. An island in the middle of Africa. Their primitive minds were too small to develop a way to cross the waters surrounding their lands and they were trapped there untill a coalition including myslef, Generic Empire, the Parthians and relatively small players of Roach-Busters (OOC: For some reason I remember you haivng a small part, I'm lookign up the war now) and Grenval conquered them."

-Lead historians within the Borneric Empire of Uberness

Correct, In addition, they are far too dumb to create anything more advanced than a bow and arrow.

-Shah Khosru III
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 00:58
Correct, In addition, they are far too dumb to create anything more advanced than a bow and arrow.

-Shah Khosru III

My friend, Shoobans are not even capable of that. They do not even know how to make fire!

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 01:02
My friend, Shoobans are not even capable of that. They do not even know how to make fire!

-Generalissimo J.L.

But my Immortals in Shoobooshaaba reported being attacked by men armed with bows and spears. They caused no casualties, but that means they had them.

-Shah Khosru III
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 01:10
Well it seems they have went to deeper state of the dark ages when the overmind was killed by our warriors. As a result of the overmind dying they became dumb. Also when our nation was founded it was on an island and we have no archelogical traces of major naval ports nor cities. It is still complex to our nation to see how could have an advanced civilization once lived there.
Borman Empire
22-04-2005, 01:20
Well it seems they have went to deeper state of the dark ages when the overmind was killed by our warriors. As a result of the overmind dying they became dumb. Also when our nation was founded it was on an island and we have no archelogical traces of major naval ports nor cities. It is still complex to our nation to see how could have an advanced civilization once lived there.

"That's probably because one didn't and if they did, it wasn't the Shoobans. These absurd claims are both impossible and highly impossible, any way you look at it."

-Pope Pius XI

"He's right.

-Lead historians in the Borneric Empire of Uberness
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 01:28
But my Immortals in Shoobooshaaba reported being attacked by men armed with bows and spears. They caused no casualties, but that means they had them.

-Shah Khosru III

Hmm...that is strange. Oh well, they're no threat to us, of course.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Risban
22-04-2005, 01:34
The Imperial message sent earlier repeated, just to further press Risban's point...


Official Imperial Statement
All Imperial tests done on Shoobans purchased from the noble nation of Roach-Busters show that Shoobans are, indeed, not even near being human. Tests show that Risban Scorpions, Risbanian Tree Monkeys and primates with our zoos are of a much higher intelligence than these Shoobans.
Several civil rights advocates within the Grand Imperium of Risban, such as our Chancellor of Parliament and new empress, Countess Nora Courtney, freed a pack of approximately twenty-five Shoobans in hopes of proving that they are capable of showing intelligence, independence, and respect for freedom. After a week, eleven of them were found dead. Ten others had to be put down after attacking people on their ways to the mall. The others were captured and put back into captivity at the Imperial Zoo in Risban City after being found walking around in circles in the Legato Forum, scaring foreign diplomats.
Thus, the Grand Imperium of Risban is quite certain that they are not human. We do not believe that Nellisland has any right to interfere with the animal rights of other nations. I mean, perhaps nations who like the Very Deadly Viper should go after Nellisland for allowing the snake to be a favorite main course among its citizens.

-Doctor Steven Jerik, Minister of Scientific Research
-Professor Sybill Aerulius, Minister of Paranormal Affairs
-Doctor Eve Pelonius, Vice-Minister of Zoological Services
Safehaven2
22-04-2005, 02:04
Statement from Foreign Ministry:

“It saddens Haven to know that such actions are still tolerated in the world at large. Slavery was once a disease that plagued the world but this has reached that point and crossed it. Nothing in the history of mankind can compare to the, for the lack of a better word, Holocaust that is happening in some nations. And to think that such prominient and high standing nations as Generic Empire, The Parthians and Borman Empire, an ally and neighbor of Safehaven2, are participating makes things all the more troubling. The Borman Empire is held on a high pedestal in Haven, a longtime ally, friend and neighbor. We can’t even begin to contemplate what would make such things become accepted by the governments in your nations. Safehaven2 has no choice but to not only back Nellisland in this doctrine but to congratulate them. Furthermore we have placed Nellisland under our protection meaning any action taken against Nellisland because of their stance on this issue is an action taken against Haven. We firmly hope and believe that this issue can be put behind us and that the nations involved can be made to see the wrong in theirs ways.”
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 02:06
Statement from Foreign Ministry:

“It saddens Haven to know that such actions are still tolerated in the world at large. Slavery was once a disease that plagued the world but this has reached that point and crossed it. Nothing in the history of mankind can compare to the, for the lack of a better word, Holocaust that is happening in some nations. And to think that such prominient and high standing nations as Generic Empire, The Parthians and Borman Empire, an ally and neighbor of Safehaven2, are participating makes things all the more troubling. The Borman Empire is held on a high pedestal in Haven, a longtime ally, friend and neighbor. We can’t even begin to contemplate what would make such things become accepted by the governments in your nations. Safehaven2 has no choice but to not only back Nellisland in this doctrine but to congratulate them. Furthermore we have placed Nellisland under our protection meaning any action taken against Nellisland because of their stance on this issue is an action taken against Haven. We firmly hope and believe that this issue can be put behind us and that the nations involved can be made to see the wrong in theirs ways.”

Burn in Hell, liberal monsters!

-Generalisismo J.L.
Safehaven2
22-04-2005, 02:10
"Watch your tongue J.L.You should be more worried about more pressing matters than such things as Shoobans."
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 02:13
"Watch your tongue J.L.You should be more worried about more pressing matters than such things as Shoobans."

How dare a half-Shooban such as yourself address me that way!

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Transylvania
22-04-2005, 02:18
J.L., you need to stop calling people half-Shooban. You are going more insane listening to these idiots. Now, let your wife run your nation. So, you can get some bed rest.

~ Count JWolf
Safehaven2
22-04-2005, 02:20
"How dare we? You act as if you have the ability to even begin to threaten Haven. No J.L., you should not only watch your tongue but watch to make sure somebody didn't switch your I.Q. tests with that of one of the retards you lord over. It is sad that someone such as yourself has somehow gained control of an entire nation. We hope that one day RB sees what kind of man they are following and finds themselves some new leadership, and along with it some actual hope for RB."
Generic empire
22-04-2005, 02:23
((OOC: SH2, aren't you FT?))
Safehaven2
22-04-2005, 02:28
OOC: Nope, I wouldn't even begin to understand all that stardestroyer, hyperspace tech crap. I'm MT.
Generic empire
22-04-2005, 02:29
OOC: Nope, I wouldn't even begin to understand all that stardestroyer, hyperspace tech crap. I'm MT.

((OOC: Oh. I could have sworn. Then who am I thinking of?))
Safehaven2
22-04-2005, 02:32
OOC: No idea, I don't know anybody with a name like mine.
Terai
22-04-2005, 03:21
Honestly, I don't see how half of you bastards (referring to basically everyone here but Nellis Safehaven and LammaN) can look at yourself in the mirror. The Shoobans are just as human as any of you, more than some, just becuase they haven't reached as intelectual a state as us gives you NO right what-so-ever to hurt them in the slightest. Name ONE thing the shoobans did to you without referencing your theological bullshit. If some technologically advanced race came along and started killing you for entertainment, how would you feel? I mean, seriously, that is exactly what you do to them. And also, why do you think homo-sexuals are so bad? It is their right to choose, and jsut becuase they are differant give you NO right to discriminate against them. None at all! Infact... I think Shoobans are quite superior to many you inhuman bastards...

- Prince Alexi of Terai
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 03:23
Honestly, I don't see how half of you bastards (referring to basically everyone here but Nellis Safehaven and LammaN) can look at yourself in the mirror. The Shoobans are just as human as any of you, more than some, just becuase they haven't reached as intelectual a state as us gives you NO right what-so-ever to hurt them in the slightest. Name ONE thing the shoobans did to you without referencing your theological bullshit. If some technologically advanced race came along and started killing you for entertainment, how would you feel? I mean, seriously, that is exactly what you do to them. And also, why do you think homo-sexuals are so bad? It is their right to choose, and jsut becuase they are differant give you NO right to discriminate against them. None at all! Infact... I think Shoobans are quite superior to many you inhuman bastards...

- Prince Alexi of Terai

Allow me to reiterate:

You fool, do you not understand the nature of the world? Both Ahura Mazda and Ahriman have seprate creations of their own within this world that serves as their battlefield. To benefit the side of good, people in my nation would kill servants of Ahriman for no apparent reason. (Herodotus reported the Ancient Persian Magi would slaughter insects and other creatures of Ahriman whenever they got the chance). Shoobans are also these creatures in service to the dark lord, thus, they deserve it.

-Shah Khosru III
Borman Empire
22-04-2005, 03:25
Honestly, I don't see how half of you bastards (referring to basically everyone here but Nellis Safehaven and LammaN) can look at yourself in the mirror. The Shoobans are just as human as any of you, more than some, just becuase they haven't reached as intelectual a state as us gives you NO right what-so-ever to hurt them in the slightest. Name ONE thing the shoobans did to you without referencing your theological bullshit. If some technologically advanced race came along and started killing you for entertainment, how would you feel? I mean, seriously, that is exactly what you do to them. And also, why do you think homo-sexuals are so bad? It is their right to choose, and jsut becuase they are differant give you NO right to discriminate against them. None at all! Infact... I think Shoobans are quite superior to many you inhuman bastards...

- Prince Alexi of Terai

"I walk to the mirror. Open my eyes. Look. Admire my develish (SP?) good looks. Walk away."

-Pope Pius XI
Terai
22-04-2005, 03:26
Ugh, there you go once more, with the theological bullcrap... Don't you have any better reason than that? I am not being sarcastic you pompous bastard.

-Prince Alexi of Terai
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 03:31
Ugh, there you go once more, with the theological bullcrap... Don't you have any better reason than that? I am not being sarcastic you pompous bastard.

-Prince Alexi of Terai


How about the fact the highest Shooban IQ ever recorded is 75 and they average at 45? Or the fact they have been bred like koi or dogs?

-Shah Khosru III
Terai
22-04-2005, 03:35
Let me say again: The fact that we have a more devolped brain than them does not let us torture them and kill them for enjoyment! And that last thing is an injustice you commit upon them, you breed them like those beasts.
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 03:39
We congratulate Safehaven on protecting the shoobans. We also are Shooban sympathizers and hope to ally with you. Although I will like to attack RB, unfortunately our nation can not engage in invasions with the parthians nor the roach busters for some odd reason. We will however provide monetary support for you.


OOC:The reason why I cant invade them is because they will ignore anyone who fights them with higher class technology. What a bunch of cowards, they try to be untouchable to high tech nations who wants to see a regime change or at least rights improved for the shoobans.
Generic empire
22-04-2005, 03:42
((OOC: Plenty of people ignore FT because it's just an excuse to godmod.))
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 03:45
Statement from Foreign Ministry:

“It saddens Haven to know that such actions are still tolerated in the world at large. Slavery was once a disease that plagued the world but this has reached that point and crossed it. Nothing in the history of mankind can compare to the, for the lack of a better word, Holocaust that is happening in some nations. And to think that such prominient and high standing nations as Generic Empire, The Parthians and Borman Empire, an ally and neighbor of Safehaven2, are participating makes things all the more troubling. The Borman Empire is held on a high pedestal in Haven, a longtime ally, friend and neighbor. We can’t even begin to contemplate what would make such things become accepted by the governments in your nations. Safehaven2 has no choice but to not only back Nellisland in this doctrine but to congratulate them. Furthermore we have placed Nellisland under our protection meaning any action taken against Nellisland because of their stance on this issue is an action taken against Haven. We firmly hope and believe that this issue can be put behind us and that the nations involved can be made to see the wrong in theirs ways.”

We accept and are glad to hear Safehaven back us in your noble quest. I am glad that their are others who care as we do.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 03:48
We congratulate Safehaven on protecting the shoobans. We also are Shooban sympathizers and hope to ally with you. Although I will like to attack RB, unfortunately our nation can not engage in invasions with the parthians nor the roach busters for some odd reason. We will however provide monetary support for you.


OOC:The reason why I cant invade them is because they will ignore anyone who fights them with higher class technology. What a bunch of cowards, they try to be untouchable to high tech nations who wants to see a regime change or at least rights improved for the shoobans.

OOC: If you want to fight a future tech RP, I'll temporarily make myself FT and then smash you apart. 300 million vs 2.6 billion... then I go back to MT. You still want to fight? Because I'm quite annoyed with you stalking me and demanding I fight you even though we exist on different planes of existence.
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 03:52
We are just a bit more advanced then an modern civilization. We fight with both conventional weapons that an modern infantry have hope of defeating and have power weapons that can do considerable damage (our lasers while having an effective attack radius, does not penertrate heavy armor instantly.)
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 03:54
No I have no intentions of war. In fact I have an rp where you may get an hand at a shooban kill frenzy. I have made an rp where our forces found the rumored shooban homeworld. You can join us since we need a bit of vengence after what they did to my nation, damn partisans...
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 03:59
We are just a bit more advanced then an modern civilization. We fight with both conventional weapons that an modern infantry have hope of defeating and have power weapons that can do considerable damage (our lasers while having an effective attack radius, does not penertrate heavy armor instantly.)

Do you have like space travel and stuff?
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 04:04
Do you have like space travel and stuff?

OOC: Can we get back to the bickering please...
The Transylvania
22-04-2005, 04:09
Honestly, I don't see how half of you bastards (referring to basically everyone here but Nellis Safehaven and LammaN) can look at yourself in the mirror.

- Prince Alexi of Terai

The only part of this message I like. Prince Alexi, when I look into a mirror, I can see everything behind my head. It cools, too. All my flesh has disappear and it is just clothes in the mirror. Thanks for the good laugh.

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 04:14
The only part of this message I like. Prince Alexi, when I look into a mirror, I can see everything behind my head. It cools, too. All my flesh has disappear and it is just clothes in the mirror. Thanks for the good laugh.

~ Count JWolf

Very funny Count. I did enjoy that laugh. Perhaps under different circumstance we could have been friends. However that is quite off topic. The Shoobans do nto deserve to die because they are not as smart as human. Even though I dispute the claim because they are probebly not given the proper education.

Shah, I noticed a comment you made about feeding Nellisland citizens to your animal. Please do not harm my citizens. They have done nothing to you.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
22-04-2005, 04:20
Very funny Count. I did enjoy that laugh. Perhaps under different circumstance we could have been friends. However that is quite off topic. The Shoobans don't deserve to die because they are not as smart as human. Even though I dispute the claim because they are probebly not given the proper education.

-President Michael W. Nellis

I don't give a damn about Shoobans anymore. I'm trying to calm my friends, J.L. and Shah, down but it is getting to hard. I'm acting more like a gentleman then those two. To J.L. and Shah, you will hate me for this but liberte el Shoobans.

~ Count JWolf
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 04:22
Do you have like space travel and stuff?

Yep we have a small fleet. YOu just need to send your men into my cruisers and we will have them in the shooban surface at no time.
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 04:24
I don't give a damn about Shoobans anymore. I'm trying to calm my friends, J.L. and Shah, down but it is getting to hard. I'm acting more like a gentleman then those two. To J.L. and Shah, you will hate me for this but liberte el Shoobans.

~ Count JWolf

Thank you very much Count. I do not want this to become something that it isn't. We might not agree on things, but I thank you for trying to be a moderator in this crisis.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
22-04-2005, 04:31
Thank you very much Count. I do not want this to become something that it isn't. We might not agree on things, but I thank you for trying to be a moderator in this crisis.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Your welcome but you know something; you will never get any live Shooban unless you buy them from J.L. and the Shah. Like I said early, there are no Shoobans in the Dominion and will never be any of them in the Dominion. They would scary the wolfmen out of the Dominion.

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 04:33
Your welcome but you know something; you will never get any live Shooban unless you buy them from J.L. and the Shah. Like I said early, there are no Shoobans in the Dominion and will never be any of them in the Dominion. They would scary the wolfmen out of the Dominion.

~ Count JWolf

Perhaps we can arrange a deal with J.L. or the Shah.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Doomingsland
22-04-2005, 14:54
We congratulate Safehaven on protecting the shoobans. We also are Shooban sympathizers and hope to ally with you. Although I will like to attack RB, unfortunately our nation can not engage in invasions with the parthians nor the roach busters for some odd reason. We will however provide monetary support for you.


OOC:The reason why I cant invade them is because they will ignore anyone who fights them with higher class technology. What a bunch of cowards, they try to be untouchable to high tech nations who wants to see a regime change or at least rights improved for the shoobans.
OOC:If you want, you could fight the FT version of my nation. We're always looking for new converts :)
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 15:31
OOC: I am a generally peaceful nation. I prefer working a team rather then killing each other. Besides that is reserved for nuke bearing newbies, newbies who think they are the king of the boards, and random posters.
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 15:46
OOC: I am a generally peaceful nation. I prefer working a team rather then killing each other. Besides that is reserved for nuke bearing newbies, newbies who think they are the king of the boards, and random posters.

OOC: Can you guys talk about this on another thread please. I want this to just be about the Shooban Doctrine thing. Thank you.
Roach-Busters
22-04-2005, 17:02
"How dare we? You act as if you have the ability to even begin to threaten Haven. No J.L., you should not only watch your tongue but watch to make sure somebody didn't switch your I.Q. tests with that of one of the retards you lord over. It is sad that someone such as yourself has somehow gained control of an entire nation. We hope that one day RB sees what kind of man they are following and finds themselves some new leadership, and along with it some actual hope for RB."

You fool, how dare you insult my people that way! They are not retards merely for rejecting Marxist-Leninist gangsterism. I do not see how it is 'sad' that a great man such as myself gained control of an entire nation. It is a blessing for all those who oppose leftism. I do not fear your Third World hellhole of a nation in the slightest.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 18:21
You fool, how dare you insult my people that way! They are not retards merely for rejecting Marxist-Leninist gangsterism. I do not see how it is 'sad' that a great man such as myself gained control of an entire nation. It is a blessing for all those who oppose leftism. I do not fear your Third World hellhole of a nation in the slightest.

-Generalissimo J.L.

The fact you reject anything but your views is what makes you wrong J.L. Just because you have power doesn;t mean you can influence other people. You reject everything and that is wrong. People should have freedoms...as should the Shoobans!

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 18:25
The fact you reject anything but your views is what makes you wrong J.L. Just because you have power doesn;t mean you can influence other people. You reject everything and that is wrong. People should have freedoms...as should the Shoobans!

-President Michael W. Nellis

Freedom destroys nations!

-Shah Khosru III
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 18:27
Freedom destroys nations!

-Shah Khosru III

People like you destory nations, Shah. Not freedom! Soon your people will see this and overthrow you and your government. Very soon.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Nellisland
22-04-2005, 19:00
bump
The Transylvania
22-04-2005, 20:03
Perhaps we can arrange a deal with J.L. or the Shah.

-President Michael W. Nellis

I will offer at place to have a meeting between you, J.L. and the Shah in the Dominion. I give my word that you will not be harmed. If you are harmed, I will kill the person who did it.

~ Count JWolf
Cadillac-Gage
22-04-2005, 20:04
Upon examination of historical records, we find that the Shoobhabbanians' decendents, force-bred into low intelligence by their conquerors, are indeed human. Samples from a subject obtained on the black-market by the Department of Medical Research shows 99.96% DNA match with Homo Sapiens.
It is interesting to note several retrovirii and alterations in the remaining .04% of "Shoobian" DNA cause both the mongoloid physical deformities, and Mental retardation.

It is the determination of the CGDMR that this condition was brought about intentionally some time ago, by one or more really, really, sadistic and evil bastards-but they are not the spawn of a mythical devil-god, nor are they entirely non-human.

The Shoobian population would, however, require extensive and advanced Gene-Thereapy to recover the Humanity that has been, through breeding and technological means, denied them. Since we can neither afford to do this work, nor keep a breeding population due to climate and vulnerabilities, It is the determination of the Department of External Contacts and Affairs, that Cadillac-Gage not conduct trade or in-person diplomacy with Nations that are believed to be involved in the oppression and continued deliberate de-evolution of Shoobians.

At the same time, we will not be accepting Shoobians as refugees, due to their inability to cope with our climatic conditions or domestic economic realities, and it would simply be dreadfully unfair to bring in a population of low-grade morons to be eaten in the warmer wildlands by Carcajou Atrox.

Thank you for your patience, and may you recieve all the rewards you deserve,

-Suse Randall, Director, External Contacts and Affairs Department
Cadillac Gage
Borman Empire
22-04-2005, 20:43
No I have no intentions of war. In fact I have an rp where you may get an hand at a shooban kill frenzy. I have made an rp where our forces found the rumored shooban homeworld. You can join us since we need a bit of vengence after what they did to my nation, damn partisans...

OOC: Can you stop that RP? It is a rumored Shooban homeworld because it never existed. We created Shoobans and what happened, I dont care nor can I control what your nation says about where Shoobans came from. But when you create an rp where you find evidence of Shoobans coming form somewhere else when they didnt without seekign permission, thats a no. Please stop it or alter the plot so it is not the Shoobans home-world. I might suggest some Shoobans crash landign there after a slave cargoship crashed.
The Parthians
22-04-2005, 22:27
Upon examination of historical records, we find that the Shoobhabbanians' decendents, force-bred into low intelligence by their conquerors, are indeed human. Samples from a subject obtained on the black-market by the Department of Medical Research shows 99.96% DNA match with Homo Sapiens.
It is interesting to note several retrovirii and alterations in the remaining .04% of "Shoobian" DNA cause both the mongoloid physical deformities, and Mental retardation.

It is the determination of the CGDMR that this condition was brought about intentionally some time ago, by one or more really, really, sadistic and evil bastards-but they are not the spawn of a mythical devil-god, nor are they entirely non-human.

The Shoobian population would, however, require extensive and advanced Gene-Thereapy to recover the Humanity that has been, through breeding and technological means, denied them. Since we can neither afford to do this work, nor keep a breeding population due to climate and vulnerabilities, It is the determination of the Department of External Contacts and Affairs, that Cadillac-Gage not conduct trade or in-person diplomacy with Nations that are believed to be involved in the oppression and continued deliberate de-evolution of Shoobians.

At the same time, we will not be accepting Shoobians as refugees, due to their inability to cope with our climatic conditions or domestic economic realities, and it would simply be dreadfully unfair to bring in a population of low-grade morons to be eaten in the warmer wildlands by Carcajou Atrox.

Thank you for your patience, and may you recieve all the rewards you deserve,

-Suse Randall, Director, External Contacts and Affairs Department
Cadillac Gage

They are about as similar as Chimpanzees, and that is confirmed by scientific studies.

-Shah Khosru III
Gyrobot
22-04-2005, 23:42
OOC: Can you stop that RP? It is a rumored Shooban homeworld because it never existed. We created Shoobans and what happened, I dont care nor can I control what your nation says about where Shoobans came from. But when you create an rp where you find evidence of Shoobans coming form somewhere else when they didnt without seekign permission, thats a no. Please stop it or alter the plot so it is not the Shoobans home-world. I might suggest some Shoobans crash landign there after a slave cargoship crashed.

Dont worry I will put an explainable reason as this is an future tech rp. So basicallyy here is the plot:

Several years ago, a group of smugglers went to space with some shoobans they rescued and crash landed on an uncharted planet, the air was poisonous to the smugglers but somehow the shoobans are unaffected and were genetically enhanced. They decided to keep their planet a secret a few years after rapid evolution they built an advanced planets and colonized the moons. However they wanted to forget about Earth RB. Really it is kind of complex but I will try to organize it.
Borman Empire
22-04-2005, 23:52
Dont worry I will put an explainable reason as this is an future tech rp. So basicallyy here is the plot:

Several years ago, a group of smugglers went to space with some shoobans they rescued and crash landed on an uncharted planet, the air was poisonous to the smugglers but somehow the shoobans are unaffected and were genetically enhanced. They decided to keep their planet a secret a few years after rapid evolution they built an advanced planets and colonized the moons. However they wanted to forget about Earth RB. Really it is kind of complex but I will try to organize it.

OOC: If Parthians and Generic Empire agree then I will. I would but the part about them building advanced stuff is a litte...fuzzy.
Safehaven2
23-04-2005, 00:53
You fool, how dare you insult my people that way! They are not retards merely for rejecting Marxist-Leninist gangsterism. I do not see how it is 'sad' that a great man such as myself gained control of an entire nation. It is a blessing for all those who oppose leftism. I do not fear your Third World hellhole of a nation in the slightest.

-Generalissimo J.L.

"Oppose Leftism? Your talking to an ex-member of the Right Wing Collective. We find even more absurd your claims that we are a third world hellhole. But Haven will give you a chance to show how "great" of a man you are and rise above this bickering so that we can negotiate like truly civilised nations. NOw we have a simple demand, Haven would like to aquire most if not all of the Shoobans enslaved in RB."
Wirraway
23-04-2005, 00:59
The Shoobans have no homeworld. They come from Shoobooshaaba (true spelling) we know this becuase in fact we were the first defenders of the Shoobans. There was once a nation called Shoobooshaaba which invaded the Burnsian Desert and managed to bring down the collective wrath of the Borman Empire, GE, The Parthians, RB and the Dracun Imperium down on its head.

We tried to save them. but after extensive dealings with them and a failed attempt to teach them the aspects of guerilla warfare we decided that saving them simply wasn't worth the effort or international reprecussions. So we took a chunk of their country and have been using them productivly ever since.
The Transylvania
23-04-2005, 01:25
"Now we have a simple demand, Haven would like to aquire most if not all of the Shoobans enslaved in RB."

Nobody gives into demands anymore. Now if you would butt out of this, everybody would be ok. I'm trying to set up a meeting with Generalissimo J.L., Shah Khosru III, and President Michael W. Nellis in my nation and you are just trying to piss off J.L. more. And we do not need that.

~ Count JWolf
Safehaven2
23-04-2005, 02:47
Nobody gives into demands anymore. Now if you would butt out of this, everybody would be ok. I'm trying to set up a meeting with Generalissimo J.L., Shah Khosru III, and President Michael W. Nellis in my nation and you are just trying to piss off J.L. more. And we do not need that.

~ Count JWolf

"Thats just to bad. You can set up your conference and you can go and have fun but Haven will lay down any odds that you will get next to nothing done. Now please, kindly butt out of Havens foriegn affiars."

OOC: Note:Prob should'uv made it clearer but ya that was a message directly to RB and not made public so it wouldn't be known unless he gave it out. Thats my fault though for not making that clear in the original post, will do next time.
The Parthians
23-04-2005, 02:53
"Oppose Leftism? Your talking to an ex-member of the Right Wing Collective. We find even more absurd your claims that we are a third world hellhole. But Haven will give you a chance to show how "great" of a man you are and rise above this bickering so that we can negotiate like truly civilised nations. NOw we have a simple demand, Haven would like to aquire most if not all of the Shoobans enslaved in RB."

Go to hell to meet your master Ahriman, you will force no demands on my friend JL, and I will defend him if you attack. Leave us be or invade and be destroyed.

-Shah Khosru III
The Transylvania
23-04-2005, 03:31
"Thats just to bad. You can set up your conference and you can go and have fun but Haven will lay down any odds that you will get next to nothing done. Now please, kindly butt out of Havens foriegn affiars."

How about you just shut up? This is not a Havens foreign affairs problem. So, you don't have any reason in this matter.

~ Count JWolf
Borman Empire
23-04-2005, 14:45
The Shoobans have no homeworld. They come from Shoobooshaaba (true spelling) we know this becuase in fact we were the first defenders of the Shoobans. There was once a nation called Shoobooshaaba which invaded the Burnsian Desert and managed to bring down the collective wrath of the Borman Empire, GE, The Parthians, RB and the Dracun Imperium down on its head.

We tried to save them. but after extensive dealings with them and a failed attempt to teach them the aspects of guerilla warfare we decided that saving them simply wasn't worth the effort or international reprecussions. So we took a chunk of their country and have been using them productivly ever since.

OOC: A little correction. Dracun Imperium was not involved with the coalition at all. The only rerason he got land (But lost it becasue he created a new nation and gave up on Dracun) was because we threatened to go to war with me, GE, and Parthians. Parthians then ceeded (SP?) most of his land to Dracun to avoid war. Also RB was not in the coalition. He came to join after Shoobooshaaba had been defeated, but lucky for him he came in time to reap the rewards.
Safehaven2
23-04-2005, 15:29
Go to hell to meet your master Ahriman, you will force no demands on my friend JL, and I will defend him if you attack. Leave us be or invade and be destroyed.

-Shah Khosru III

"Big words for a man who slaughters creatures who have no ability to defend themselves. Now we are not asking for your empire to give something up, we are more than willing to pay for them in many dfferent methods. If they are so useless than why wouldn't you jump on the chance to make a profit on them and get them off your hands?"
Safehaven2
23-04-2005, 15:36
How about you just shut up? This is not a Havens foreign affairs problem. So, you don't have any reason in this matter.

~ Count JWolf

"So now not only do you dictate what Haven can do you now tell us what we may qualify as a problem or issue? No my good Count this IS a foriegn affairs problem that IS a problem for Haven. Haven borders RB and Borman Empire in several locations meaning when there is an issue in RB or Borman Empire it affects Haven and vice versa. And no Count, Haven will not shutup on the issue but we will continue pressing for what we want to see done regardless of what you tell us to do unless you would like to do so in a more open manner. Furthermore Haven can care less what you do and how you go about doing it when it comes to your won negotiations."
The Parthians
23-04-2005, 16:23
"Big words for a man who slaughters creatures who have no ability to defend themselves. Now we are not asking for your empire to give something up, we are more than willing to pay for them in many dfferent methods. If they are so useless than why wouldn't you jump on the chance to make a profit on them and get them off your hands?"

Many of my citizens own them, and I cannot legally take them away. I am sorry, but I will NOT violate property rights.

-Shah Khosru III
Gyrobot
23-04-2005, 16:28
As if you took so many rights away already.
The Parthians
23-04-2005, 16:33
As if you took so many rights away already.

Do animals have rights? NO! Thus, Shoobans have no rights. The Arabs enjoy being repressed, and the Hazara are descended from Ghengis Khan's horde of butchers, thus they too have no rights. Everyone else does, at least in Parthia.

-Shah Khosru the Magnificent
Nellisland
23-04-2005, 18:29
I would be more than willing to have a meeting with the Shah and J.L. But we need to remain civil in the discussions.

Another thing is that this is Haven's problem because I accepted him into my Doctrine. He has the same to speak up as I do. I believe that he should have a representative in the meeting as well.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Borman Empire
23-04-2005, 19:27
I would be more than willing to have a meeting with the Shah and J.L. But we need to remain civil in the discussions.

Another thing is that this is Haven's problem because I accepted him into my Doctrine. He has the same to speak up as I do. I believe that he should have a representative in the meeting as well.

-President Michael W. Nellis

What about us?

-Borneric Empire of Uberness
The Transylvania
23-04-2005, 23:10
"So now not only do you dictate what Haven can do you now tell us what we may qualify as a problem or issue? No my good Count this IS a foreign affairs problem that IS a problem for Haven. Haven borders RB and Borman Empire in several locations meaning when there is an issue in RB or Borman Empire it affects Haven and vice versa. And no Count, Haven will not shut up on the issue but we will continue pressing for what we want to see done regardless of what you tell us to do unless you would like to do so in a more open manner. Furthermore Haven can care less what you do and how you go about doing it when it comes to your won negotiations."

Are you trying to make peace between Nellisland and Roach-Busters? The answer is no. Now, shut up and let a 10,000 year old man.. errr...vampire make peace between them. I have more knowledge in this type of matter. So, play nice and butt up of this because it has nothing to do with you or your nation. I don't get a damn that your nation borders Roach-Busters and the Borman Empire. That does not mean you need to get your head in this. If the talks go the right way, the Shoobans will be free. That doesn't mean the Shooban will rush the border and try to get into your nation. It means the Shooban are free. Now, be a nice person and hush up about this before I leave this problem and let J.L. go more nuts listen to you. I don't know what he will do but don't come to me crying that J.L. launch a nuke or two at you.

~ Count JWolf

Another thing is that this is Haven's problem because I accepted him into my Doctrine. He has the same to speak up as I do. I believe that he should have a representative in the meeting as well.

If you want them at the talks, find other place to have it. Because I don't want bloodshed to happen.

~ Count JWolf

What about us?

-Borneric Empire of Uberness

Will you play nice with us?

~ Count JWolf
Borman Empire
24-04-2005, 01:32
Will you play nice with us?

~ Count JWolf

I suppose
The Transylvania
24-04-2005, 03:43
I suppose

Ok. You can come.

~ Count JWolf
Roach-Busters
24-04-2005, 23:33
"Oppose Leftism? Your talking to an ex-member of the Right Wing Collective. We find even more absurd your claims that we are a third world hellhole. But Haven will give you a chance to show how "great" of a man you are and rise above this bickering so that we can negotiate like truly civilised nations. NOw we have a simple demand, Haven would like to aquire most if not all of the Shoobans enslaved in RB."

Over my fucking dead body.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Transylvania
24-04-2005, 23:39
Over my fucking dead body.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Damn it, J.L. Take a mother ****ing chill pill.

~ Count JWolf
Roach-Busters
24-04-2005, 23:41
Damn it, J.L. Take a mother ****ing chill pill.

~ Count JWolf

No. I refuse to release the Shoobans. They have no purpose in life other than being slaves, being hunted for sport, and being pet food.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Transylvania
24-04-2005, 23:47
No. I refuse to release the Shoobans. They have no purpose in life other than being slaves, being hunted for sport, and being pet food.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Just ignore the dumbass. It will make your life better. Using Shoobans as slave is the only thing that will work for me. Being hunted for sport, and being pet food are two bullshit answers. Using them to build stuff but don't kill them. J.L. are going to close to the dark side and you need to come back to us.

~ El Generalgigantesco JWolf
Gynica
25-04-2005, 06:27
In the world there are classes of people. One can split people into any two catergories one wishes. Those who do and those who do not. Those who can and those who cannot. Those who will and those who will not. Those who lead and those who oppress. Those who govern and those too short-sighted to see what they do. Gynica refuses to assosciate with nations that in anyway admonish, rebuke, castigate, litigate, or penalize any sector of their populace. Evil is around us in all forms, and it is the task of those who can recognize it to destroy it through any means possible. Gynica will NOT remain dormant on the issues of freedom in the world today. As Edmund Burke once said: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Gynica WILL NOT be the good men who do nothing. Gyinca WILL NOT allow the triumph of evil. Those who disagree will stand on their soap boxes, and as is their petty way, and shout insults. They will propound their own corruption, backing it with false research. The will do their damndest to try and bring Gynica to a screeching and unpleasant halt. Their unfortunate plight is that they will one day realize that we will not stop, WE WILL NOT FAIL.

- Gynican President Elect Albert Leiken, in a speech to a rally of civil rights protesters at the Capitol Building.
Roach-Busters
25-04-2005, 15:17
In the world there are classes of people. One can split people into any two catergories one wishes. Those who do and those who do not. Those who can and those who cannot. Those who will and those who will not. Those who lead and those who oppress. Those who govern and those too short-sighted to see what they do. Gynica refuses to assosciate with nations that in anyway admonish, rebuke, castigate, litigate, or penalize any sector of their populace. Evil is around us in all forms, and it is the task of those who can recognize it to destroy it through any means possible. Gynica will NOT remain dormant on the issues of freedom in the world today. As Edmund Burke once said: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Gynica WILL NOT be the good men who do nothing. Gyinca WILL NOT allow the triumph of evil. Those who disagree will stand on their soap boxes, and as is their petty way, and shout insults. They will propound their own corruption, backing it with false research. The will do their damndest to try and bring Gynica to a screeching and unpleasant halt. Their unfortunate plight is that they will one day realize that we will not stop, WE WILL NOT FAIL.

- Gynican President Elect Albert Leiken, in a speech to a rally of civil rights protesters at the Capitol Building.

If you genuinely are opposed to evil, by all means, help us destroy the Shoobans.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
25-04-2005, 15:41
If you genuinely are opposed to evil, by all means, help us destroy the Shoobans.

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L. you have no proof at all that the Shoobans are evil. You claim that they are but in my own opinion you are the evil one. I agree with Gynica all the way.

One more thing...Borman, Safehaven2, and Gynica may come to the talks if they please. If the talks have to be in another location than that is fine with me.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
25-04-2005, 15:45
J.L. you have no proof at all that the Shoobans are evil. You claim that they are but in my own opinion you are the evil one. I agree with Gynica all the way.

One more thing...Borman, Safehaven2, and Gynica may come to the talks if they please. If the talks have to be in another location than that is fine with me.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Shoobans are the spawn of Satan, or, in the Zoroastrian religion, Ahriman. They are demonic beasts borne in hellfire, contrived to foment terror, sow the seeds of chaos, and bring destruction to all those who oppose the forces of evil.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
25-04-2005, 15:47
Shoobans are the spawn of Satan, or, in the Zoroastrian religion, Ahriman. They are demonic beasts borne in hellfire, contrived to foment terror, sow the seeds of chaos, and bring destruction to all those who oppose the forces of evil.

-Generalissimo J.L.

J.L. you are so off that is funny. I would laugh at you if I was a disrepectful person. Now we need to find a place to have these talks.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Cawlm
25-04-2005, 15:47
We the people of Cawlm hereby assert that "The Transylvania" cannot be a neutral force in the peace negotiations. Being as that nation has a policy on the slavery of Shoobans, and the opposing forces are fighting for the complete and total liberation of said Shoobans.

Cawlm is decidedly neutral on this topic. Talks can take place in Alghiks, the capitol city of Cawlm.
Nellisland
25-04-2005, 15:48
We the people of Cawlm hereby assert that "The Transylvania" cannot be a neutral force in the peace negotiations. Being as that nation has a policy on the slavery of Shoobans, and the opposing forces are fighting for the complete and total liberation of said Shoobans.

Cawlm is decidedly neutral on this topic. Talks can take place in Alghiks, the capitol city of Cawlm.

I think that is a great idea. Does anyone have any objections?

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
25-04-2005, 15:50
J.L. you are so off that is funny. I would laugh at you if I was a disrepectful person. Now we need to find a place to have these talks.

-President Michael W. Nellis

What for? There is nothing to discuss. I cannot, am not, and will not free the Shoobans, who are contemptible scum unworthy of freedom or even of life. As punishment for advancing the cause of the Dark One, they deserve to be enslaved, brutalized, tortured, and slaughtered like livestock.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Roach-Busters
25-04-2005, 16:03
I think that is a great idea. Does anyone have any objections?

-President Michael W. Nellis

I do.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nellisland
25-04-2005, 18:18
What for? There is nothing to discuss. I cannot, am not, and will not free the Shoobans, who are contemptible scum unworthy of freedom or even of life. As punishment for advancing the cause of the Dark One, they deserve to be enslaved, brutalized, tortured, and slaughtered like livestock.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Fine then J.L. I am done trying to reason with you. I am soon going to be moving on to the next part of Doctrine. I really hoped it wouldn't come to this but I am going to do it. I will be reasonable and give you one last chance.

-President Michael W. Nellis

OOC: People on my side please check telegrams tonight cause I will be sending some out tonight.
The Transylvania
25-04-2005, 18:20
We the people of Cawlm hereby assert that "The Transylvania" cannot be a neutral force in the peace negotiations. Being as that nation has a policy on the slavery of Shoobans, and the opposing forces are fighting for the complete and total liberation of said Shoobans.

Cawlm is decidedly neutral on this topic. Talks can take place in Alghiks, the capitol city of Cawlm.

Where in living Hell did you get your info? Here is my policy on slavery of Shoobans. We don't have slavery in the Dominion, idiot. I'm more on President Michael W. Nellis side then Generalissimo J.L. side on the Shooban problem. Now will you do more research on the Dominion before you said some dumb like that.

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
25-04-2005, 18:21
Where in living Hell did you get your info? Here is my policy on slavery of Shoobans. We don't have slavery in the Dominion, idiot. I'm more on President Michael W. Nellis side then Generalissimo J.L. side on the Shooban problem. Now will you do more research on the Dominion before you said some dumb like that.

~ Count JWolf

I think he meant that you have a policy on allowing nations like RB to have Shooban slaves. I do agree with him here because you are also allies with him.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Roach-Busters
25-04-2005, 18:25
Fine then J.L. I am done trying to reason with you. I am soon going to be moving on to the next part of Doctrine. I really hoped it wouldn't come to this but I am going to do it. I will be reasonable and give you one last chance.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Pray tell what the "next part," of the Doctrine is.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Transylvania
25-04-2005, 18:32
I think he meant that you have a policy on allowing nations like RB to have Shooban slaves. I do agree with him here because you are also allies with him.

-President Michael W. Nellis

I don't have policy on allowing nations like RB to have Shooban slaves, Nellis. Roach-Busters has the right to do anything it wants in its land. I told you I don't give damn about Shoobans. We are allies for a different reason, its does not have anything to do about Shooban. I will laugh when you and the others do something dumb, like declare war on Roach-Busters, and get your people turned into more slaves for Roach-Busters and her allies.

~ Count JWolf
Cawlm
25-04-2005, 23:11
Where in living Hell did you get your info? Here is my policy on slavery of Shoobans. We don't have slavery in the Dominion, idiot. I'm more on President Michael W. Nellis side then Generalissimo J.L. side on the Shooban problem. Now will you do more research on the Dominion before you said some dumb like that.

~ Count JWolf

Oh really? Then Defend...

Using Shoobans as slave is the only thing that will work for me.

~ El Generalgigantesco JWolf

And how about...

You are the worst because you are trying to do something that will be a waste of money and time. Shooban don't need to go to school or get anything that a human would get. From the stories that have been told to me by J.L. and the others, is that old Shoobans attack one of them and they took them over and made slaves of their people. Shooban will go nuts, if somebody says the word sausage. If you got one or all of them, you will have to watch what you said around them. They are nasty, ugly, poor people and need to be killed off. All of them need to be killed off but they make good workers, so that is why the other has them around. I will tell you something, there are not Shoobans in the Dominion and there will never be any Shoobans in the Dominion. We don't want hem because they will make our Wolfmen run off. I have a question for you, Mr. Nellis, have you ever seen a Shooban?

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

And then of course...

‘President’ Michael W. Nellis, you call shoobans human. I’m more human like those damn things. You know what, I’m a vampire. And you saying that a shooban is better the J.L. and Khosru, is a ****ing joke. You are walking on thin ice right now because of that. Your best bet is to leave J.L. and Khosru to run their nation how every they ****ing want to. You sir, are not a leader. You are a bug, who is ruled by his people. I will leave you with these last words. Ich werde Sie ficken und werde einen netten Tag haben.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

Perhaps this will jog your memory.

Oh...... You are worst then I thought you were. Somebody sent this man a Shooban. So, he can teach it how to speak proper English. I know what is going to happen. The Shooban will eat the book and throw rocks at you. That was more of a warning then a threat.

~ Count JWolf, a High Count of the Council of Twelve

It is obvious, dear Count, that you, though you may not have a policy towards slavery in your own country, are decidedly against the Shooban race as a humanisitc enterprise. As Cawlm has not released any official statements about the humanity (or lack thereof) of Shoobans, it is decidedly more neutral than one "Transylvania."
The Transylvania
26-04-2005, 00:44
Oh really? Then Defend...

And how about...

And then of course...

Perhaps this will jog your memory.

It is obvious, dear Count, that you, though you may not have a policy towards slavery in your own country, are decidedly against the Shooban race as a humanisitc enterprise. As Cawlm has not released any official statements about the humanity (or lack thereof) of Shoobans, it is decidedly more neutral than one "Transylvania."

That was my evil twin, El Generalgigantesco JWolf, talking to everybody.

I said that is why the others have them around. If you want to know something, they do make good workers. But does not mean, that I'm on their side.

It is true that I'm more human then a Shooban.

Yes, a Shooban would do those things.

Now, with all that **** behind us. I don't give a damn about a Shooban. I'm in more in the middle of everything right now. And if you want to find another place to have your meeting, then go find it. J.L. and the others would only come to the Dominion because I could protect them from the others in the meeting and other people in the 'neutral' nation.

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
26-04-2005, 13:45
That was my evil twin, El Generalgigantesco JWolf, talking to everybody.

I said that is why the others have them around. If you want to know something, they do make good workers. But does not mean, that I'm on their side.

It is true that I'm more human then a Shooban.

Yes, a Shooban would do those things.

Now, with all that **** behind us. I don't give a damn about a Shooban. I'm in more in the middle of everything right now. And if you want to find another place to have your meeting, then go find it. J.L. and the others would only come to the Dominion because I could protect them from the others in the meeting and other people in the 'neutral' nation.

~ Count JWolf

I love my job! Okay...everybody calm down and take a chill pill. Cawlm is right though you have made some claims about Shoobans that you are taking back. That is flip-flopping my good man...er...vampire. I do not feel that the Dominion will be nuetral because you are allied with RB. Plus the Shah and RB have refused to come anyway.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
26-04-2005, 14:11
I love my job! Okay...everybody calm down and take a chill pill. Cawlm is right though you have made some claims about Shoobans that you are taking back. That is flip-flopping my good man...er...vampire. I do not feel that the Dominion will be neutral because you are allied with RB. Plus the Shah and RB have refused to come anyway.

-President Michael W. Nellis

Well this was a big waste of time then, President Nellis. I'm in a mood, where I don't care about Shoobans. I don't care if they are free or if they are still workers. I say ****n them or love them.

~ Count JWolf
Borman Empire
26-04-2005, 21:14
OOC: Im in Florida for a week, that's why I havn't been on lately and wont be on for a while.
Nellisland
27-04-2005, 15:40
Well this was a big waste of time then, President Nellis. I'm in a mood, where I don't care about Shoobans. I don't care if they are free or if they are still workers. I say ****n them or love them.

~ Count JWolf

You know what you have had a loose mouth in these discussions and I think you need to please stop. Now...this has not been a waste of time. It has actually done at least partially what I wanted it to. If you don't vare then don't get invovled Count. Thank you for your time.

-President Michael W. Nellis
The Transylvania
27-04-2005, 20:57
It is a waste of time. The Shoobans will be never freed. By force it could happen but I don‘t think you want to have people killed over this. Do you?

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
27-04-2005, 21:18
It is a waste of time. The Shoobans will be never freed. By force it could happen but I don‘t think you want to have people killed over this. Do you?

~ Count JWolf

No I do not want people killed Count, but there actions have become unacceptable and I am not going to stand for it anymore. I am trying to save a race that is just as good as humans. So in that sense humans are dying everyday.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Third Jerusalem
27-04-2005, 21:24
No I do not want people killed Count, but there actions have become unacceptable and I am not going to stand for it anymore. I am trying to save a race that is just as good as humans. So in that sense humans are dying everyday.

-President Michael W. Nellis

I agree with Nellisland on this topic. I have tried to remain neutral in this conflict but I can not no longer. I am breaking my silence right now. Free the Shoobans! They are as good as humans and are a hell alot better than J.L. or the Shah. Nellisland, I would like to be involved in the talks. I will personally come to your aid.

-Prime Minister Haute Peterson
Doomingsland
27-04-2005, 21:34
Do you fools actualy believe we would free the Shoobans because you asked us to? Ha!

-Emperor Helldawg V
The Transylvania
27-04-2005, 21:36
Do you fools actualy believe we would free the Shoobans because you asked us to? Ha!

-Emperor Helldawg V

There is your answer, everybody.

~ Count JWolf
Nellisland
27-04-2005, 21:37
Do you fools actualy believe we would free the Shoobans because you asked us to? Ha!

-Emperor Helldawg V

I can not fathom why you want to discriminate against people who have done nothing to you.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Doomingsland
27-04-2005, 21:41
I can not fathom why you want to discriminate against people who have done nothing to you.

-President Michael W. Nellis
We do not discriminate against people, Mr. President. The Shoobans, are, in fact, animals.

I see that this "diplomatic" exchange is going nowhere. Unless you honestly believe you can somehow convince us to release these animals into the wild to wreak havoc upon God's creation, I suggest you hold your toungue, young one.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Nellisland
27-04-2005, 21:44
We do not discriminate against people, Mr. President. The Shoobans, are, in fact, animals.

I see that this "diplomatic" exchange is going nowhere. Unless you honestly believe you can somehow convince us to release these animals into the wild to wreak havoc upon God's creation, I suggest you hold your toungue, young one.

-Emperor Helldawg V

I will make a deal with you. Would you be willing to sell me the Shoobans in your nation. Then I can be free to free them as I please. Would this be something that you are willing to do? I await an answer...

-President Michael W. Nellis
Doomingsland
27-04-2005, 21:46
As the Shah said before, many private citizens within my Empire own Shoobans. I am not willing to steal from my people who have payed for these beasts of burden with their own hard-earned money. That said, the answer is NO.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Nellisland
27-04-2005, 21:49
As the Shah said before, many private citizens within my Empire own Shoobans. I am not willing to steal from my people who have payed for these beasts of burden with their own hard-earned money. That said, the answer is NO.

-Emperor Helldawg V

Okay then. Thank you for your time.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Doomingsland
27-04-2005, 21:50
Okay then. Thank you for your time.

-President Michael W. Nellis
My pleasure.

-Emperor Helldawg V
Nellisland
28-04-2005, 15:34
Bring Up My Post!
Safehaven2
28-04-2005, 21:05
Over my fucking dead body.

-Generalissimo J.L.

"Thats just to bad"
Nellisland
29-04-2005, 15:42
"Thats just to bad"

Okay. Let us remain civil guys.

-President Michael W. Nellis
Nellisland
30-04-2005, 15:50
Bring
Up
My
Post

BUMP!
Nellisland
16-05-2005, 00:45
OOC: I kind of let this die so...bump! I am beinging this back to the forefront cause it appears as nothing is going on.
The Parthians
16-05-2005, 03:00
I still fail to see how subhumans deserve rights.

-Shah Khosru III