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Open letter to Indra Prime and the T.A.

The Resi Corporation
19-04-2005, 00:19
The following is an open letter addressed from the Resi Corporation to the nations of the Temporal Accord. Anyone may read this, and anyone may respond.

To whom it may concern:

In the days gone by, the Temporal Accord has taken actions against a nation quite friendly with the Resi Corporation, because it used "time tech" and was not a member of the Accord. They weren't using it menacingly, they weren't a threat to space-time, they merely had time tech without being regulated by the Accord. It seems the Accord will attack anyone who so much as mentions the word "time" these days.

We accuse the Temporal Accord of starting to run a closed shop, an international union of sorts that forces all nations with time tech to amass under its collective banner or face death from a fleet of starships the likes of which the galaxy only sees when the Accord nations gather. This is not only warmongering, plain and simple, but it is dictatorial communism and ResiCorp will not stand for further institution of this policy.

Should Indra Prime or any member nation of the Temporal Accord ever again threaten a nation based on the fact that they have unregulated temporal tech, the Resi Corporation will leave the Temporal Accord and sever its business arrangement with Indra Prime. However, because ResiCorp knows the importance of laws on time tech, it will start its own alliance of time tech nations, an alliance based on volunteering and not conscripting its members by force. This alliance will only attack rule-breakers, not innocents that have uncovered the mysteries of space-time.

All this can be avoided by simply stopping warmongering. The choice is yours.

[signed]
CEO Sara Resi
The Resi Corporation
Gaian Ascendancy
19-04-2005, 00:48
While we have not actively joined the Accord, we stated from the start, that we saw exploration of time quite as enticing, as would exploration of another dimesional reality.

If this all said is the case, the Accord member should be beyond ashamed of their actions, which places themselves no better than temporal thugs, no better than any nation using the theology of fear as their weapon.

Upon the advice of our Ascendant allies, and with the graces of the Angelic Orders, we hereby remove our name from the Accord, and will place our allegiance with Resi, so that our nation may assist in development of time travel capability, in an exploration fashion 'only'. We will not tolerate 'any' force that uses war to settle any matter, and in the realm of time is no different to us.

As Guardians of the Powers, we hold dismay at the apparent acts of the Accord, and inform them that any attempt to impose their will on any nation for 'whatever' reason, will see our forces oppose them in kind.

However we realize that there 'are' nations that will use time as a weapon, regardless of the Accord. We hereby stand against this as well, and see the useage of time as an exploratory act 'only'. To damage the time line of any Dimension is loathsome, and will be opposed as well.

We call upon all nations to lend support to this statement, and that a 'proper' sentry be comprised to deal with these matters, in a civilized manner.

Thus our will be said and done.

Regards,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Gaian Ascendancy First Throne

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((OC - Cool, another thread type to help place ourselves as Dimensional Guardians. All according to plan... =^^= ))
Indra Prime
19-04-2005, 00:54
Transmission from Indra Prime Temporal Incursion Fleet High Command to the CEO of Resi Corporation

cc: To ALL Temporal Accord Members

To our esteemed colleague. We did not attack in one instance against either the nation of Dratheria, or the nation of Einhauser. Our Fleet was in position, in the unlikely eventuality that they refused to listen to peaceful, diplomatic negotiations. Fortunately for both sides, we were able to come to a peaceful understanding of the technology being used by the nation in question. As the founding member of the Temporal Accord and having our own dislike of using this technology, we much prefer peace and diplomacy over bloodshed. The Temporal Accord has been put into place to ensure that peaceful nations use temporal technology responsibly, and THAT is all. Any nation who is peaceful and uses the technology, should not be feared by being allied with other nations through this document. We are not a warmongering group. If it appears that way, we sincerely apologize to you and the nations in question. We must be ever vigilant in the protection of the one that can affect more civilizations than we are all aware of. If we really wanted to threaten either of those nations, dont you think that we would have used more vessels than four vessels?
The technology being used by Einhauser was misinterpreted by nations with less sophisticated sensor technology, who in turn alerted us at the thought of an imminent threat to the STC. Within accordance of the document, we sent a marginal fleet to find out what the commotion was all about. Without firing one erg of energy, communications were opened up with the believed offender, and the situation was sorted out. Once the misunderstanding was corrected, Einhauser realized the importance of such a body, and agreed to sign the accord with no outside pressuring on our part.

We hope this alleviates any concern you may have about our intentions.

In Best Regards,

Jonathan Harding
General
Indra Prime Temporal Incursion Fleet Commander
Chronosia
19-04-2005, 00:56
Pah, drastic times call for drastic measures my friend. Threats to the balance of Space and Time themselves cannot be allowed; for the potential hazards are to great. Should use of Temporal Technology become too widespread, too uncontrolled, then what could happen? A mere slip in the fabric of space, or time, and the entire tapestry of reality could unfurl; unwind, and we would cease to be. If force is nessecary to ensure balance, balance eternal, that we the great servants of the Ruinous Powers, can continue our existence, thern so be it; for I will tolerate no threat to the Imperium; nor any of its allies.

Be thus warned, that the fate of reality is as much a calling to servants of Chaos as those of Order...

-Marcus De Drakan,
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium
Einhauser
19-04-2005, 01:09
To: The international Community
From: Alexi Redwood, Minister of Foreign Affairs for the Incorperated States of Einhauser

Einhauser would like to make its position clear: we only signed the T.A. in order to prevent the wholesale slaughter of our civilization. We were at your mercy; with a temporal field surrounding our planet and three fleets orbiting us. What else could we do? We see now, however, that we need not have signed said document, and with this in mind, we would like to pull our signature from your organization. It is nothing personal, I am sure you had the intention of protecting the STC when you formed your alliance.

In accordance with our revelations, we pledge our support to the Mass Opiate of The Resi Corporation, and will hereby produce technology for use by the forthcoming alliance, should it materialize. This in no way means we will cease to produce quality products for the international community, no, we will simply give the best to Resi's alliance.
Mirfak
19-04-2005, 01:09
By the authority of the Alphin Vinessa Burkavik, the Socialist Republic declines to take a side in this case. Our official position follows.

"We have yet to see any hard evidence of uncalled-for action taken by the Temporal Accord against any nation. Mirfak has no intention of leaving the alliance or violating its terms as things currently stand. If Indra Prime or the alliance chooses to attack any target that Mirfak regards as innocent or otherwise undeserving of aggression, we will take steps to void our agreement to the Temporal Accord and evaluate the wisdom of joining any counter-alliance that may exist at that time. Until such an event occurs however, we will not be swayed from our agreement or our protection under the provisions of the Temporal Accord."
Gaian Ascendancy
19-04-2005, 01:09
Yes the Balance must be maintained. But not at the expense of the 'what if' syndrome. What if Einhauser had 'not' agreed? Would you have then invaded our of fear or the 'what if'? Yes new nations cannot now of the power of tampering with temporal sord. But does any of this so justify an entire 'fleet' upon a nation? Carrot and the stick diplomacy it all sound like to us.

And what of nations 'before' the Accord existed? Does it cover 'everything' in an umbrella of the grandfather effect?

And then we don't even get into alternate realities and other dimensions with ther 'own' timelines, just as diverse, and just as devestating in effect to their own, as to ours, if tampered with.

..just how 'far' is the Accord going to go to keep an act, out of fear, when the process of guarding temporal sord means a tatamount to a dictatorship in end result?

Eventually, and we stress this, eventually a civilization will rise to ascension, that uses 'time' as their method of an Ascendant plane. Can your 'guarding' rule over those with the same fist of fear, over those that no longer care for your worries and laws?

By the Accord itself, we all tread on ground far too diverse and dangerous for 'any' accord or guardianship to truly effectively guard over. That is the realm of Gods.

Are we to say then that the Accord is a bastion of mortal gods? I can hear my Ascendant allies laughing now at that prospect.

No. Preventing damage to time is all well and agreed good. But at the end of a sword, no matter the intent, still rings of a hollow accord.

We cannot be convinced of until otherwise demonstrated, of this as being anything but bullying a nation into submission. That is our stance.

Regards once more,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Gaian Ascendancy First Throne
Chronosia
19-04-2005, 01:14
The Imperium is no slave to the Accord, nor is it even a member, but it realises that the effects of meddling in the timestream are too great. What if someone was to erase the Imperium, or the most arrogant Ascendancy before either existed? What then? Would your thoughts of parallel timelines and alternate realities do you any good as your entire being ceased to be? I think not. The only hollow argument here, is the foolish ideal that we wait around for a temporal disaster to occur! What will it take for the foolishness of Temporal meddling to be realised? The dangers realised?

The Imperium shall not wait for its own demise, nor the demise of any in a temporal disaster to show how nessecary prevention is.
The Ascendancy and its lofty views may do as they please, but they shall not interfere with my will, which is the Will of the Imperium.

-Marcus De Drakan,
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium
The Resi Corporation
19-04-2005, 01:33
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

We find it awfully convenient for the Temporal Accord that it "misinterpreted" temporal interferance and gained another member out of their "mistake".

While we agree that laws governing space-time are necessary, we object strongly to the way the Temporal Accord upholds these laws. They hold a monopoly on time-tech that is seriously flawed and communistic in nature, and they threaten all with time tech that won't convert willingly.

We thank everyone for the support they have lent us, but we do not require it as of yet. The Temporal Accord is allowed one more mistake before we bring a schism through their organization. Our definition for the term "mistake" has been adjusted to be much more strict than threatening a nation, be warned. We recommend that the Accord take measures to fix corruption or prepare to face a very unfortunate situation.

[signed]
CEO Sara Resi
The Resi Corporation
Indra Prime
19-04-2005, 01:49
The fault does not lie with the Temporal Accord. If you want to blame someone for trying to protect not only our own civilization but yours as well, blame Indra Prime and the Temporal Research Council. In case you are unfamiliar with the Temporal Research Council, it is a small group of nations that has sworn to uphold the sanctity of the Space/Time Continuum. Without the Research Council and without the actions of Indra Prime, you would not have had the luxury of doing the research you so now want to follow. Without Indra Prime making HUGE sacrifices, this entire region would have been overrun by multiple species intent on domination. While most nations were to eager to not give a damn and ignore a threat of such magnitude, Indra Prime, and the other members of the Temporal Research Council stepped in at severe risk to their fleets, crews and civilizations. Just recently, Indra Prime lost more than 98% of its population and its fleet in defense of this galaxy, so if you complain that we are being totalitarian in this, then so be it. We NEVER made a threatening move against that nation. We issued a warning, with our fleets remaining well back so that they would not percieve us as in a threatening position. We were there solely to make sure diplomacy worked. If it hadnt, then we would have followed in the best military traditions and tried as hard as we could to eliminate any possible threat to ourselves. When you have lost 98% of your civilization, THEN come and talk to us about being totalitarian. We'll see how your nation reacts to threats that can eliminate the other two percent.
Xenonier
19-04-2005, 02:03
The fault does not lie with the Temporal Accord. If you want to blame someone for trying to protect not only our own civilization but yours as well, blame Indra Prime and the Temporal Research Council. In case you are unfamiliar with the Temporal Research Council, it is a small group of nations that has sworn to uphold the sanctity of the Space/Time Continuum. Without the Research Council and without the actions of Indra Prime, you would not have had the luxury of doing the research you so now want to follow. Without Indra Prime making HUGE sacrifices, this entire region would have been overrun by multiple species intent on domination. While most nations were to eager to not give a damn and ignore a threat of such magnitude, Indra Prime, and the other members of the Temporal Research Council stepped in at severe risk to their fleets, crews and civilizations. Just recently, Indra Prime lost more than 98% of its population and its fleet in defense of this galaxy, so if you complain that we are being totalitarian in this, then so be it. We NEVER made a threatening move against that nation. We issued a warning, with our fleets remaining well back so that they would not percieve us as in a threatening position. We were there solely to make sure diplomacy worked. If it hadnt, then we would have followed in the best military traditions and tried as hard as we could to eliminate any possible threat to ourselves. When you have lost 98% of your civilization, THEN come and talk to us about being totalitarian. We'll see how your nation reacts to threats that can eliminate the other two percent.

Coming from a nation that was annihilated down to less than 0.00001 of it's population and being in almost the exact same situation, my people cannot help but concur. I doubt Resi Corporation has the perspective nessecary to see just how important regulating such a power as Temporal technology is. As for The Ascendancy, I shall simply shake my head in dissapointment. Gods have never existed, they are merely created from the minds and powers of men.

Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.
Gaian Ascendancy
19-04-2005, 02:12
The Imperium is no slave to the Accord, nor is it even a member, but it realises that the effects of meddling in the timestream are too great. What if someone was to erase the Imperium, or the most arrogant Ascendancy before either existed? What then? Would your thoughts of parallel timelines and alternate realities do you any good as your entire being ceased to be? I think not. The only hollow argument here, is the foolish ideal that we wait around for a temporal disaster to occur! What will it take for the foolishness of Temporal meddling to be realised? The dangers realised?

The Imperium shall not wait for its own demise, nor the demise of any in a temporal disaster to show how nessecary prevention is.
The Ascendancy and its lofty views may do as they please, but they shall not interfere with my will, which is the Will of the Imperium.

-Marcus De Drakan,
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium

If such occured, we'd 'not' even realize it. Heck, an outright erasure from history would be no less than a superlaser incinerating a planet, or a fission device upon a city.

Death in one form, is death in another. Period.

And if 'we' are so arrogant, then who was the ones with the fleet over another's homeworld? I would not be so quick with labels when faced with events 'not' of our own making. And we will interfere if it comes down to firing upon another civilization, out of this fear.

Again, death is death. Period.

If we are to base this discussion upon worry about the right of existence, then a neutral baseline must be established, and then governed over in a judicious and ethical manner. Starships over a world that is simply testing time travel, is not ethical behavior.

An established council of representatives, ephumistaclly a temporal sord police enforcement group of some kind, to take cases in stride on a case by case basis, to measue and then control 'properly' how the effect of temporal travel is to be conducted, if at all, under a 'proper' set of stringent guidelines and rules, NOT enforced by weapons, but by the means of technology and beings 'designed' to exist in the temporal sord, for just more than simply watch over those that time travel for gain, to then ensure that that capability, when it ineviatably becomes a fact of a nation you 'cannot' bully into submission, nor even defeat in the worst case (Generalization, not mentioning any names here.) is then used responsibly, ethically, and under a guidance of a group that is independant, but responsible at the highest regard and level, to safeguard against the very thing the Accord members are fearing the most.

Temporal Extinction.

What more, lofty it may be labeled, but there is more to guarding the temporal sord than simply worrying about someone's last name suddenly being changed faster than a blink of an eye, because a bug got squashed a thousand years before.

There's a whole ecology and environment of it's 'own' regard, just as unique and dynamic as any such seen upon the Motherworld Terra. It also get's more dynamic than simply stopping a nation from developing technology. There are probable events happening as we speak, or temporal sord incursions, where 'good' is being done, where the atypical repair job of fixing the mess of a true greedy type, occurs.

I'm sorry, but the simple use of force in the name of fear, does.. not.. work.

Sooner or later the roll of the dice will cause an event you all of the Accord, cannot prevent. I think ol Murphy run that racket, and don't think 'anyone' here, us included, are immune to that event.

Where force becomes uneccessary, a more, how to put, bearucratic touch can be applied.

There is no such thing as 'impossible'. Let us end that notion here and now.

..and replace it with the words: managable plausibility.

Regards twice more,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Gaian Ascendancy First Throne

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((OC- Remember, rp fun here. =^^= ))
Gaian Ascendancy
19-04-2005, 02:14
Coming from a nation that was annihilated down to less than 0.00001 of it's population and being in almost the exact same situation, my people cannot help but concur. I doubt Resi Corporation has the perspective nessecary to see just how important regulating such a power as Temporal technology is. As for The Ascendancy, I shall simply shake my head in dissapointment. Gods have never existed, they are merely created from the minds and powers of men.

Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.

Then you need to meet our Goddess Lady Creation, or even simply my Grandfather sometime.

Regards thrice more,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Gaian Ascendancy First Throne
Chronosia
19-04-2005, 02:18
Evidently you are not as perceptive and all knowing as you make out; my ships have not even left their homes yet, they hover over no homeworld; yet someone seems ripe and ready to point the finger. The more....bureaucratic ideal will be introduced first; I plan to give my opponent full opportunity to surrender; but should it come to war I shall not shirk from bloodshed; as it would not please Khorne for me to reject sacrifice.

When such an event as you foresee occurs, the Imperium shall be ready to meet it, and be assured, we shall retaliate to any threat to our dominion, such as one you have already stated. This is not the place to drag our maters through the mud, but the Imperium must warn you, that any opposition will be dealt with. Now, I believe I am done meddling over something such as the Accord, where explanations have been traded. More pressing matters call for a far more pressing solution. We hope to see you there.

-Marcus De Drakan,
Daemon Emperor of the Chronosian Imperium
Einhauser
19-04-2005, 02:45
The fault does not lie with the Temporal Accord. If you want to blame someone for trying to protect not only our own civilization but yours as well, blame Indra Prime and the Temporal Research Council. In case you are unfamiliar with the Temporal Research Council, it is a small group of nations that has sworn to uphold the sanctity of the Space/Time Continuum. Without the Research Council and without the actions of Indra Prime, you would not have had the luxury of doing the research you so now want to follow. Without Indra Prime making HUGE sacrifices, this entire region would have been overrun by multiple species intent on domination. While most nations were to eager to not give a damn and ignore a threat of such magnitude, Indra Prime, and the other members of the Temporal Research Council stepped in at severe risk to their fleets, crews and civilizations. Just recently, Indra Prime lost more than 98% of its population and its fleet in defense of this galaxy, so if you complain that we are being totalitarian in this, then so be it. We NEVER made a threatening move against that nation. We issued a warning, with our fleets remaining well back so that they would not percieve us as in a threatening position. We were there solely to make sure diplomacy worked. If it hadnt, then we would have followed in the best military traditions and tried as hard as we could to eliminate any possible threat to ourselves. When you have lost 98% of your civilization, THEN come and talk to us about being totalitarian. We'll see how your nation reacts to threats that can eliminate the other two percent.


It is true, you did keep your fleet at a distance. However, it is ALSO true that you erected a temporal field around our entire planet. Can you honestly say that you would have released the planet from the field and taken your fleets away if I had said "Im not going to turn my research over. Go away"? I think not.

Our entire nation's FTL system is based on the so called "contraband technology"; if it had been confiscated (a feat i would like to point out is highly illegal. You cant just take stuff), we would have been crippled. Our military would be usuless, and our trading ships would have been grounded, which is an offense most serious.

Einhauser too, sees the chaos (not your kind of chaos Chronisia, your chaos is cool) that lurks behind messing with time. It cannot be allowed. However, you made a very dire threat against my country without gathering all of the facts. If you had dug deeper, you would have seen that the TMD (for those of you confused, the TMD is what they were trying to take) had no ability to damage the STC.
The Resi Corporation
19-04-2005, 02:45
The fault does not lie with the Temporal Accord. If you want to blame someone for trying to protect not only our own civilization but yours as well, blame Indra Prime and the Temporal Research Council. In case you are unfamiliar with the Temporal Research Council, it is a small group of nations that has sworn to uphold the sanctity of the Space/Time Continuum. Without the Research Council and without the actions of Indra Prime, you would not have had the luxury of doing the research you so now want to follow. Without Indra Prime making HUGE sacrifices, this entire region would have been overrun by multiple species intent on domination. While most nations were to eager to not give a damn and ignore a threat of such magnitude, Indra Prime, and the other members of the Temporal Research Council stepped in at severe risk to their fleets, crews and civilizations. Just recently, Indra Prime lost more than 98% of its population and its fleet in defense of this galaxy, so if you complain that we are being totalitarian in this, then so be it. We NEVER made a threatening move against that nation. We issued a warning, with our fleets remaining well back so that they would not percieve us as in a threatening position. We were there solely to make sure diplomacy worked. If it hadnt, then we would have followed in the best military traditions and tried as hard as we could to eliminate any possible threat to ourselves. When you have lost 98% of your civilization, THEN come and talk to us about being totalitarian. We'll see how your nation reacts to threats that can eliminate the other two percent.
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

Losing all but 2% of your population should send a clear message that you need to change something about your nation so that nothing like the catastrophie that occured could happen again. Note that we say, "about your nation", not "about the rest of the world". A nation that has lost 98% of its people should be in no position to force its own brand of despotism on the rest of the universe.

Don't talk to us about decimation. The Resi Corporation has been flattened by everything from the GDODAD of old (Melkor, The Silver Turtle, NOD, among others) to an unlikely coalition between Iesus Christi, Menelmacar, Melkor, Santa Barbara, Sigma Octavius, and just about any other powerful nation you could think of. But due to planning and refugee programs, we have grown back time and time again. Thanks to the valient efforts of my father, the late CEO Jai Resi, we still exist today and are one of the most powerful and respected nations in the world.

We know all you know about annihilation, but we know more than you do about rebirth.

[signed]
CEO Sara Resi
The Resi Corporation
Axis Nova
19-04-2005, 04:38
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Mirfak
19-04-2005, 05:00
The Council has overridden he Alphinic office and issued a new national position on this issue.

"The Temporal Accord, while it may be authoritarian, is still a necessary component of the galaxy's and, indeed, the universe's defense. Until such time as it stops serving the greater good and, of course, the good of Mirfak, the Council sees no grounds for leaving the pact. We declare, at the same time, that we are not currently willing to assist in either the attack or defense of the Temporal Accord, and wish to be considered neutral despite our membership should any conflict arise. Still, we see no problem with abiding by the full terms of the Accord as well as we are able, just as we did when we renewed our signatory status after gaining sovereignty twenty-seven years ago. The Council ratified the Temporal Accord in Mirfakan law, and we are not prepared to void it. The Alphin may be head of foreign relations, but she cannot stand in violation of Mirfakan law. Any statement contrary to this official opinion is hereby rejected."
Enixer
19-04-2005, 05:11
i know this isnt the right place to do this, but could someone please tell me what is going on. I am new to nationstates and i havent quite grasped how this works. It sounds like things are happening that are impossible to achieve with the normal interface i am familiar with. Pleas fill me in. I am really confused. It would be better if someone telegraphed me instead of answering through the forums. I havent quite figured out the forums yet.
Indra Prime
19-04-2005, 05:34
It is true, you did keep your fleet at a distance. However, it is ALSO true that you erected a temporal field around our entire planet. Can you honestly say that you would have released the planet from the field and taken your fleets away if I had said "Im not going to turn my research over. Go away"? I think not.


Before you jump to conclusions, I did NOT erect a Temporal Inhibitor Field around your planet. Someone ELSE did. So if you have a problem with that take it up with them not me.

And because I lost 98% of my population was not due to idiocy on my part. We were attacked by more than Twenty Thousand Vessels. Vessels I might add that were far superior to virtually everything I had. There was ONE vessel, that I had that managed to turn them away due to the nature of the technology on board, and with that came a price. A Temporal Shockwave passed through the universe from the point of impact and anahillated my people. This happened from a race that had superior Temporal Technology to us and who didnt give a damn about peace in this galaxy. So are you suggesting, that next time, I just let them through and let them slaugher your people before I step in and take those same casualties?

We ARE rebuilding, albeit slowly. With a severe drop in population, it generally tends to slow the rate of progress for a nation. While trying to rebuild, we are trying to do with a fleet of a few hundred, what was the responsiblity of a fleet of a few thousand. So we are bound to step on a few toes here and there, and I'm sorry, but thats tough. Thats life. No one else has the level of technology we do, nor the capability or determination to safe guard something that affects each of us on such a macroscopic scale.
Flaming Souls
19-04-2005, 05:37
Official Government Position

Having been involved in said event's taking place over the homeworld of Einhauser, the nation of Flaming Souls feels it necessary to include thier 'two-cents' as some would say.

While the situation over Einhauser may have been taken as threatening, our presence there was not meant as such. We only meant our presence to ensure the stability of the STC, and after recieving the news, although as it appears currently to be mis-interpreted, we felt that our presence would be welcomed. We are a peace loving nation, but when forced to can and will defend that which it deems necessary to protect. As we see it, the Accord is not aimed at preventing, nor disallowing the production of Temporal Technology. But rather, it is aimed at protecting the nations that choose to do so, as well as the STC itself. Our allegience with the Accord is out of a heart felt need to protect that which is essential to the existance of all peoples in the multiverse.

If the Resi Corporation and is new associates does decide to go against the Accord, we will have to halt any future relations with said nations or conglomerations.

To us it seems as though this entire debate is sparked from a capatalistic point of view and as such sees our good intent as communistic, when it is indeed far from it. We never intended harm or misfortune upon Einhauser, nor did we cause it, we simply orbited their homeworld, which we will point out, there is no laws against. We are sorry that the situation had to reach this point, and are even more deeply sorry that we cannot all just get along.

Best of Regards,
The Committee of Flaming Souls
Xenonier
19-04-2005, 06:50
Then you need to meet our Goddess Lady Creation, or even simply my Grandfather sometime.

Regards thrice more,

Lord Excellency Aleaic Saloam Kerensky
Gaian Ascendancy First Throne

I can only shake my head in dissapointment.



Resi, I must disagree. Xenonier once had the level of technology that Indra possesses, and we suffered a strikingly similar fate. Now, we seek to return to that technology without disrupting the STC. Thus, to prevent irrepearable or nigh on it damage, we have signed the treaty, for very similar reasons to flaming souls. When we finally complete our own technological adjustments to this timeline, we want to do it in the company of those who possess similar goals as we do and we want everyone under the accord to know we will use Temporal technology in a responsible manner. I will not lie - Xenonier has few, if any equals across the galaxy and the addition temporal technology to our knowledge once more would create a dangerous pairing unless we make everyone know of our respect for the trappings of this responsibility. To regulate this power, we have joined the TA for a reason and the enforcement of that accord is done for a reason.

Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.
Flaming Souls
19-04-2005, 07:14
ooc: *ahem* Flaming Souls *ahem* Just wanted to make sure you saw that, not flaming skulls. Not being a prick, just clarifying.
The Resi Corporation
19-04-2005, 07:16
Official Government Position

Having been involved in said event's taking place over the homeworld of Einhauser, the nation of Flaming Souls feels it necessary to include thier 'two-cents' as some would say.

While the situation over Einhauser may have been taken as threatening, our presence there was not meant as such. We only meant our presence to ensure the stability of the STC, and after recieving the news, although as it appears currently to be mis-interpreted, we felt that our presence would be welcomed. We are a peace loving nation, but when forced to can and will defend that which it deems necessary to protect. As we see it, the Accord is not aimed at preventing, nor disallowing the production of Temporal Technology. But rather, it is aimed at protecting the nations that choose to do so, as well as the STC itself. Our allegience with the Accord is out of a heart felt need to protect that which is essential to the existance of all peoples in the multiverse.

If the Resi Corporation and is new associates does decide to go against the Accord, we will have to halt any future relations with said nations or conglomerations.

To us it seems as though this entire debate is sparked from a capatalistic point of view and as such sees our good intent as communistic, when it is indeed far from it. We never intended harm or misfortune upon Einhauser, nor did we cause it, we simply orbited their homeworld, which we will point out, there is no laws against. We are sorry that the situation had to reach this point, and are even more deeply sorry that we cannot all just get along.

Best of Regards,
The Committee of Flaming Souls
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

You were the one with four battlecruisers in orbit around Einhauser's homeworld, we don't think you're in any position to play the innocent card. It was a threat, if they denied your requests they would've been invaded by your full force and you know it.

We think it's funny that everyone is jumping to arms about this. We are merely a signatory nation of the Temporal Accord, and we object to the way it is carried out so strongly that we threaten to leave it if it doesn't improve. The Accord itself is not a bad document, in fact it is a very strong and good piece of law. However, good laws are nothing without righteous enforcing. We believe the letter of the Accord is very necessary, thus our offer to create another temporal law pact should the Accord's enforcers refuse reform. We support Indra Prime's decision to make the pact, and we respect their skills as leader of this organization. We are simply doing what we are because certain members of the Accord seem to enjoy warmongering to improve the Accord's constituancy.

The intolerance and outright rejection of the reform we have proposed confuses us, and we did not anticipate its existance. Nevertheless, to support our customers and the universe as a whole, we stand by what we have said as beneficial to the continued existance of existance.

Flaming Souls, if you are so dedicated to your warmongering politics to boycott us, so be it. We have many customers, we can withstand a puny embargo from a single nation. As for your analysis of our opinions as capitalist, you are correct. When can we expect your thesis on the wetness of water?

[signed]
CEO Sara Resi
The Resi Corporation
The Resi Corporation
19-04-2005, 07:25
Resi, I must disagree. Xenonier once had the level of technology that Indra possesses, and we suffered a strikingly similar fate. Now, we seek to return to that technology without disrupting the STC. Thus, to prevent irrepearable or nigh on it damage, we have signed the treaty, for very similar reasons to flaming skulls. When we finally complete our own technological adjustments to this timeline, we want to do it in the company of those who possess similar goals as we do and we want everyone under the accord to know we will use Temporal technology in a responsible manner. I will not lie - Xenonier has few, if any equals across the galaxy and the addition temporal technology to our knowledge once more would create a dangerous pairing unless we make everyone know of our respect for the trappings of this responsibility. To regulate this power, we have joined the TA for a reason and the enforcement of that accord is done for a reason.

Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

The pact is enforced for a reason, something we don't object to. As stated, we stand fully behind the purpose of the Accord but disagree with the methods of enforcement. This is why we offered to make our own pact, with reasonable enforcement of its laws, because such laws are a necessity and their enaction is the only variable that can be changed while keeping the equation working.

[signed]
CEO Sara Resi
The Resi Corporation
Flaming Souls
19-04-2005, 07:29
Official Reply to the Resi Communique

Actually, to clarify things for you, who now seem to be the mis-informed, We did not have four battlecruisers there. Our actual presence was this 1 Dreadnaught, 4 Battle Carriers 2000 Docked Scouts, 10 Frigates, and 10 Corvettes. While granted, this is more than the four aforementioned battlecruisers, they are not one and the same. This is also not warmongering on our part, we are simply abiding by the Temporal Accord, of which, as you stated, are also a signatory nation. If we were warmongering, our initial statements to the Government of Einhauser would have been more along the lines of If you do not turn over your Temporal Technology we will destroy your planet. This is not, nor ever was, our intent. We thought that our presence there would be an act of goodwill amongst our fellow signatory nations showing that we upheld the Accord. If we had known that this sort of feeling would arise due to our involvement we would have most likely stayed at home and baked cookies. We understand that our embargo has no effect upon you in the grand scheme of things, but it will someday show that we have more common sense than would appear.

Signed with the Deepest Regret,
The Committee of Flaming Souls

P.S. You can expect our thesis on water to be forthcoming after you figure out how to pour water from a boot with instructions on the heel.
Xenonier
19-04-2005, 09:33
ooc: *ahem* Flaming Souls *ahem* Just wanted to make sure you saw that, not flaming skulls. Not being a prick, just clarifying.

OOC: I blame it on being rushed at the time. I'll fix it now.
Siesatia
19-04-2005, 12:21
Letter to Resi Corperation:

After reading many of these letters, the Unified Worlds, aside from disagreeing with your point of view on certain aspects, asks, how do you suppose the accord should be held up in the first place?

Should we go to the same people's door who are endangering the STC, with nothing more than a diplomatic craft, and ask that they give away that specific technology? Not only putting the lives of the diplomatic crew in unnescisary risk, but the lives of the fleet that must follow to carry out its goal should diplomacy take a turn for the worst. Might we also remind you, that long, drawn out battles rarely have more causualties than short, decisive battles.

The ships sent by Siesatia were part of the Temporal Incursion Fleet, recently formed to deal with such situations. It is no different than the United States of America's SWAT Team in terms of law enforcement. A special unit, to deal with special circumstances. Would sending a diplomatic vessel instead of an incursion fleet, be any different, we would still be negotiating for the technology.

Full force invasion? I think not... even though it is to the discresion of the Indran commander at the scene, as he takes senority command, it is doubtful a full blown invasion would take place. A simple blockade is effective enough in terms of leverage.
Einhauser
19-04-2005, 21:29
OOC I believe the accord should try to end the problem diplomatically first. Perhaps speak with the offending nation OOCly, by TG maybe. Explain why what they are doing is wrong; a newb isn’t going to understand why immediately after he developed "miracle" technology, he suddenly has a fleet threatening to destroy him in orbit. If you get things settled there, then by all means send a diplomatic shuttle ICly, and if they blow it up, THEN send the fleet.

What I'm trying to say is that it would be nice for you to try to get people to understand what they did wrong, instead of just making demands immediately.
Indra Prime
19-04-2005, 22:00
OOC: That Fleet WAS on a diplomatic mission. They made absolutely NO hostile moves against you, seeing as they contacted you to open a dialogue between our two respective groups. If it had been an unarmed diplomatic cargo ship, what would have been the incentive to bring you to the negotiation table? I stand by my decision. Do recall, that we sent minimal numbers to your planet, not the entire Temporal Incursion Fleet of 280 vessels. THAT I could see as a hostile gesture. but Four? no way. They are formidible, yes, but they made no hostile moves against your nation whatsoever.
Siesatia
19-04-2005, 22:02
OOC: And then we have incidents like the Dratheria (SP*) incident, where the technology threatened to escape the area... Damage to the STC will not be permitted.

Also, like I said, it is a waste of lives to send a single ship to their death, when a fleet will get the point across just as fast, if not faster. The Siesatian fleet never took any hostile actions, it launched alert fighters, which sit in hiding, protecting the larger vessels, an entirely defensive effort. We were prepared to, and fulfilled our mission of a diplomatic solution to the problem...

A simple question, would you be more prepared to listen to a single diplomat, easily dispatched? Or a fleet commander, with the muscle behind his dialouges? Don't even lie to anyone on this one, a fleet is far more intimidating than a buracratic diplomat no-namer, who has to run back to command on every demand. And by the kind of person I percieve Jason Green to be (Not you OOCly, I mean the leader) he would be more prepared to take out the diplomat, and deny the entire thing.
Balrogga
19-04-2005, 22:09
The Balrogga Empire stands behind its decision to add their signature to the Temporal Accord.

We will use whatever technology we have to enforce this decision and stand by their allies.
Einhauser
19-04-2005, 22:17
I agree that the Dratherian incident warranted this kind of intervention. There are also several cases I can see right now that could use it as well (glares at the nation of TimeTravelers, or whatever his name is). However, those are different than my case. In both of those cases, their intentions had been stated, and they clearly violated the Temporal Accord. In my case, however, all you had to go on was me saying that I used an FTL engine called the Time Manipulation Drive. All im saying is that you should speak to the offender OOCly in the cases like mine, where you cant be sure if the STC is being violated or not. Use force only after you know for sure what you are dealing with.

Personally, I am not angry at the for fleet confronting me. After I got over the initial shock and dismay of having the TA brought down on my head, I actually don’t pay much attention to it now.
Indra Prime
19-04-2005, 22:45
OOC: Thats just it, we didnt use force against you. We never fired a shot. It was, or is currently under a diplomatic solution, which if you recall, I suggested. And speaking of Timetravellers, I gave them a chance to read over the Temporal Accord, and if they fail to recognise its importance, then we will send a fleet and kindly ask them to back down, even though it may have some influence with the small fleet in their area.
Einhauser
20-04-2005, 02:52
Indra, you did use force, just in a much subtler way. I had three fleets of ships around Einhauser, demanding I turn over one of my best technologies, one that I spent a lot of time developing. That’s like having the Mob post knee-cappers outside your door until you agree to hand over your first-born child. They aren’t doing anything to you now, but boy howdy, if you don’t do as they ask, there will be hell to pay.

Ill say this again, because, to be blunt, you do not seem to be getting it. Talk to the offender OOC BEFORE you send the fleet, or even a shuttle. It makes things so much easier to understand.
The Resi Corporation
20-04-2005, 02:59
OOC: Thats just it, we didnt use force against you. We never fired a shot. It was, or is currently under a diplomatic solution, which if you recall, I suggested. And speaking of Timetravellers, I gave them a chance to read over the Temporal Accord, and if they fail to recognise its importance, then we will send a fleet and kindly ask them to back down, even though it may have some influence with the small fleet in their area.
((OOC: Indra, let's keep the OOCage down a bit. Yes, I know you needed to have some leverage. Yes, I know it wasn't the full fleet. But my nation doesn't really care. They have ulterior motives here, and as far as I see it we all understand each other OOCly. We just don't understand each other ICly, and so there's no real reason to go out of character.

You're a great RPer, and I respect you OOCly, but ICly we're trying to do more than just what we say.))
Einhauser
20-04-2005, 19:25
I think nobody has replied because everyone is ashamed that they let this turn OOC. I know I am. It should have stayed IC.
Flaming Souls
20-04-2005, 21:24
((Second OOC Post: I didnt post anymore because no reply has been given to my last reply, and as i noted here, have only gone OOC once, to help correct a spelling error, for the effect of a better RP...and this is also my last OOC post))
Neo-Mekanta
20-04-2005, 21:34
"This split within the Temporal Accord comes at an intersting time..."

"Neo-Mekanta's reach into the temporal field through the use of our Zircon Hive's Chronobreaker technology has lead the Goddess Minagoroshi to reconsider our ban on temporal research."

"Know this, as we make preparations to sign this... Temporal Accord..."

"The Chronobreaker's effectiveness against those who use the forbidden technology of time as been proven through every test. We will not hesitate to dispatch the Time Crushers of the Zircon Hive should this counter force to the Temporal Accord prove a threat with their research..."

---Neo-Mekantan Transmission, source unknown
Germanische Zustande
26-04-2005, 03:49
The UFGZ wonders if Minagoroshi has finally realized that isolationism and unilateralism will bring only hate and destruction...

Is the mighty Neo-Mekantan Nation faltering in its long-set ways?

Your 'goddess' appears to be making many appearances within the latest newsbreakers of the Intergalactic community.

There is no word in German, English, French, or the High Languages which can describe our hatred for everything which your nation represents: Pagenism, Despotism, mindless control, and horrid disdain for sentient life, etc.

Our people love to watch the show...

-The UFGZ