NationStates Jolt Archive


Dratheria Develops FTLi

Dratheria
15-04-2005, 22:50
After much consideration Dratheria has realized that our current gravity wells are outdated. So the scientists in the R&D labs are beginning research on how to use Omega Molecules to stop FTL in a given area.This new type of FTLi will hence forth be called Dratherian FTLi. Following the research all Drahterian vessels that utilize FTLi will be outfitted with these and will be completed in a years time. Scientists estimate that the research and outfitting combined will be completed in 2 (NS) years. Also in order to contain the molecules we use Theramite shielding then utilizing complex sytems release the radiation of the Omega Molecule that inhibits FTL.

OOC: Yet again if you have a problem with my tech TG me.
Sarkaraseta
15-04-2005, 22:53
Actually, this isn't a half-bad idea. I'm not an expert on FTLi, so I don't know the proper time to develop it.

However, just note it doesn't work on all types of FTL travel. DLE's FTL engines are pretty much immune to most types due to the fact they operate in real-space and the jump drives require effectively trying to catch a bullet with your bare hand.
Dratheria
15-04-2005, 22:59
Most any drives will be affected by this radiation except temporal drive fold drives i.e. and drive that bends the rules of physics
DemonLordEnigma
15-04-2005, 23:08
Most drives bend the rules of physics. The Omega Particle comes from an episode of Voyager and was established as effecting subspace. Engines that work in real space, like mine, and engines that don't need subspace to function will be unaffected.
Dratheria
15-04-2005, 23:15
well thats why shortly we will be creating a more advanced FTLi in the future but for now we will use a combination of interdictor wells and Dratherian FTLi to stop our enemies and we know this may not be very efficient we will continue to use both till a more advanced FTLi can be created.
Gaian Ascendancy
15-04-2005, 23:50
Take a piece of paper, and bend two of the corners together, or even a corner to the center of the paper..

..the Gaian/Ascendant Fold Drive operates by this simple principle, by make it's own set of physics laws, borrowing mainly from the fact that speed is 'completely' removed from the equation of jumpin between two points.

The power requirements are of course rediculously high, but the Ascendant Zero-Point Energy Fusion Core takes care of that problem. The problem for us isn't radiation, but actually just keeping the cascade of power from overwhelming the vessel systems during a Fold Jump.

But if you bring your data and concepts to Lady Washu of our Science Advisory, she can probably help stream line the process of this drive system.

We use backup hyperdrive modules for immediate distances, but a Fold Drive is rediculously reliable since friction isn't an issue whatsoever for us.
Ankhmet
15-04-2005, 23:54
ooc: This shouldn't affect the drives of Ankhmeti Tombships, or the Space Hulk. Both operate in another universe. Your FTLi would have to be able to affect another universe. So I'm safe :)
Dratheria
16-04-2005, 00:03
I have Transdimensional tech thats how my original monitor ships worked. I have defenses in place against those drives but not inhibiting.
Dratheria
16-04-2005, 00:15
That would be apreciated Gaian we will send our research, materials, and scientists to study with yours. Also we would appreciate your help in creating a real space FTLi to further protect the borders of our system.
Jangle Jangle Ridge
16-04-2005, 00:17
Take a piece of paper, and bend two of the corners together, or even a corner to the center of the paper..

..the Gaian/Ascendant Fold Drive operates by this simple principle, by make it's own set of physics laws, borrowing mainly from the fact that speed is 'completely' removed from the equation of jumpin between two points.

The power requirements are of course rediculously high, but the Ascendant Zero-Point Energy Fusion Core takes care of that problem. The problem for us isn't radiation, but actually just keeping the cascade of power from overwhelming the vessel systems during a Fold Jump.

But if you bring your data and concepts to Lady Washu of our Science Advisory, she can probably help stream line the process of this drive system.

We use backup hyperdrive modules for immediate distances, but a Fold Drive is rediculously reliable since friction isn't an issue whatsoever for us.


OOC: And thus, you can magically block any bad things from happening to your ships. And if they do, you just pull them to another universe, which cannot be destroyed, as it is gaurded by a magical 500km-long ship. Oh, and [/rant].
Dratheria
16-04-2005, 00:36
No fold drives bend the universe. Hence they bend your point of origin next to your exit point and then your ship just flies through the two points and the universe unfolds thats a simply as I can explain it
Siesatia
16-04-2005, 03:16
Siesatian Temporal Slipstream Drives here, so I won't be effected. However, you mentioned the force behind the inhibitor being a special kind of radiation, how will you generate the radiation without hurting your own crew? If there is some sort of shield, wouldn't the radiation Generators be on the outside? If so, wouldn't it be unnescisarily easy to knock out the inhibitors?
Dratheria
17-04-2005, 20:47
Siesatian Temporal Slipstream Drives here, so I won't be effected. However, you mentioned the force behind the inhibitor being a special kind of radiation, how will you generate the radiation without hurting your own crew? If there is some sort of shield, wouldn't the radiation Generators be on the outside? If so, wouldn't it be unnescisarily easy to knock out the inhibitors?

No they are held within the vessels however all my vessels are made from Duratrinium which protects from M.I.D.A.S. and Omega radiation its like Theramite just much much much stronger. And special devices will release a decaying form of the radiation into the surrounding space so that the effects aren't permanent but rather temporary.Therein lies the beauty of these devices.
Siesatia
17-04-2005, 21:11
No they are held within the vessels however all my vessels are made from Duratrinium which protects from M.I.D.A.S. and Omega radiation its like Theramite just much much much stronger. And special devices will release a decaying form of the radiation into the surrounding space so that the effects aren't permanent but rather temporary.Therein lies the beauty of these devices.

If they are inside, there would have to be an exorbitant amount of radiation shielding inside and out, and would also inhibit the rate of radiation able to be released to the outside space, not to mention saturating your own ship. The Generators themselves may be inside, but the ports that release the radiation are still vunerable to attack, and there would have to be many of said ports lining the ships hull, which decreases the amount of space for shield generators and weapons.
Dratheria
17-04-2005, 21:21
Wrong see the radiation of M.I.D.A.S. and Omega cannot pass through Duratrinium or Theramite the properties of both prevent it. Also the tops of the generators which are exposed to all of space have shielding on the inside that prevents the radiation from escaping. But when the generators are used the shielding retracts allowing the radiation to escape in controlled bursts.
Einhauser
17-04-2005, 21:22
Einhauser uses a FTL drive of its own creation, called the Time Manipulation Drive, so our ships wont be affected. However, i see no reason why this reaserch cant be allowed to continue.

...as long as you dont do anything stupid and try to block my FTL engines, lol.
Siesatia
17-04-2005, 21:31
Wrong see the radiation of M.I.D.A.S. and Omega cannot pass through Duratrinium or Theramite the properties of both prevent it. Also the tops of the generators which are exposed to all of space have shielding on the inside that prevents the radiation from escaping. But when the generators are used the shielding retracts allowing the radiation to escape in controlled bursts.

That still leaves the ports open to destruction... also, in order to deploy the radiation, wouldn't you need to drop your shields in those periodic bursts? I think you will find that many larger nations have developed shields that are immune to radiation, an example is my own, we harvested plasma DIRECTLY from earths sun, now, you have to get pretty close to do that. That same shield is still basic equipment on all my ships. Its a similar predicament with many others, we could just generate FTL inside our own shields, and get away.
Dratheria
17-04-2005, 21:40
That still leaves the ports open to destruction... also, in order to deploy the radiation, wouldn't you need to drop your shields in those periodic bursts? I think you will find that many larger nations have developed shields that are immune to radiation, an example is my own, we harvested plasma DIRECTLY from earths sun, now, you have to get pretty close to do that. That same shield is still basic equipment on all my ships. Its a similar predicament with many others, we could just generate FTL inside our own shields, and get away.
Wrong still we still use trinium which allows that radiation to pass through it to shield where the generators are held the shielding that retracts is Duratrinium and not really as that radiation passes through most energy shielding even our own. I mean Omega radiation not M.I.D.A.S. so the radiation doesnt' affect our drives because they are Hyperspace and fold drives.
Chronosia
17-04-2005, 22:07
The Imperium uses a drive which tears a hole into the warp, allowing for travel through it, via the use of a Navigator. We fail to see how something which affects subspace will affect the workings of Warp Technology and Warp Travel, categorised as travel into Warp Space, also known as the Immaterium and the Empyrean

OOC: Dratheria, check your TGs
Ald Rhun
18-04-2005, 23:44
In response to Dratherias development of this "FTLi", Ald Rhun has developed a new plating which has been retroactivley applied to all ships, blocking all said radiation. This new plating will henceforth be known as "antiwankium".
Gaian Ascendancy
19-04-2005, 00:34
((OC- Because I'm irked.. =--=

OOC: And thus, you can magically block any bad things from happening to your ships. And if they do, you just pull them to another universe, which cannot be destroyed, as it is gaurded by a magical 500km-long ship. Oh, and [/rant].

Are we still going on about an rp where you pulled a wierd warship that 'no' other rper was able to even get a shot in at? Hell, I'm still sorry I even bothered with that rp. I have more fun with the rps with Zeta and others than 'that' rp ever could have had.

As for 'magic', have you even been reading through 'any' of the rps I've been in? I 'have' used the Eternal Destiny.... 'once'... at the moment it's basically wallpaper hanging over my homeworld during Startica celebrations, along with the not mentioned yet other A-SSD Class Warships (About 50 other warships averaging 35 - 100 km each. It's down in my nation portal site at the bottom of the Council page if anyone wants to note.

..not to mention my 10,000 km BaseCore sitting in one of my nebulae expanses. Oh, and dare I mention the three Star System Clusters, Dysan Sphere, and the partridge in a peartree?

And not a SINGLE battle being imposed (yet) on anyone with any of this stuff. Heck, I haven't gotten to the 'magic' yet dude.

...or as rped: The Power of the Hikari. Essentially The Power of Jurai with more of an angelic theme. Got actual vessels being created right now with the same theme (gorgeous sculptures of vessels too..) that will have the same power along with it. This all my personal favorite at the moment. =^^=

..oh... and I haven't mentioned the multiple alliances in several seperate galaxies conducted in rp, thanks to the Fold Drive as our chosen Jump Drive. Heck, still can't wait to begin inter-Universe exploration rather than just inter-galactic exploration. Wait till inter-Dimensional begins down the road. Course having half the Inner Sphere (skewed version of my own, but no one was really rping Battletech besides me at the moment anyway as far as I could tell.) ..as allies of the Ascendancy, being integrated very fast with Ascendant technology, the same in the CAG/CWT/CSE forces.

...having thousands of mech/conventional Regiments and multiple Clan Galaxies tends to get me squishy all inside. =^^= And all this not mentioning the Huntaerian Galaxy Ancient Races Alliance that goes along with all this.

And ALL of this done without having to step all over (at least not intentionally) any rpers while doing it. And you know what, I've had a HECK of a fun time doing it all. Damn, if this is godmodding, then I'm sure having a whale of a time! *waves his 'got no life' flag*

Oh, and I haven't even started with the Ascendant tech that will let me move entire planets (..anyone remeber the Iconians from ST:NG? Thank you...) ..nor begun the process of creating entire Dimensional Fortress Pockets where whole Republic Fleet Groups can be stationed and then funneled into any trouble zone within any Dimensional Zone to keep the peace in a scale that would make anyone puke green with envy. *..still waving the 'got no life' flag...*

And yes those loverly shields are in there. But lords almighty man. I try to kill off a vessel rp wise so that it can all be dramatic, and you tell 'me' I messed up because you couldn't wait awhile before making a post, and then get all huffy on me to then change a post, getting more and more imaptient, all the while I try my dangest to make a post that can meld back into the storyline properly, and then you paste me with the godmod label, all the while blunting every attack from several other rpers, not even 'trying' to take damage. As soon as I start using my Ascendant created shields: 'godmod, godmod.. he's a stupid godmod'.

Dude, let's take a step back and get one thing straight pally. I'm as much like the next soul that can appreciate good tech and a powerful vessel and such, yada yada..

..but when you post in response to a gravity blast attack that instead of simply arcs the shot away, but 'then' reaims the continuous blast at an angle that attadks an unarmed JumpShip flotilla that had 'no' reason to be attacked, what was it, 60 degree plus in angle or something? Well, I suppose it's time we 'both' get the godmod label. Hell, I KNOW a 500km vessel is outrageous. I knew it and STILL went with it, because I knew I 'wasn't' going to show it off all the damned time. It was for those 'big battle for everything' deals and such. What am I, Donald Tump of Centari Prime or something? Gimme a break!?!

It's not the big vessel or shiny tech that matters, it's the rp, and if the story is cluttered up with 'look at my ego-ship' toys, then where has the story gone? *Looks to the toilet* ...yeah... there...

..so, I presume this will all degenerate into another flame argument either in TG, open post or something else needlessly long, but I stand by my point. Just because you have a nation with 2.### Billion people or fancy gadgets, doesn't make you an rper.

...it's the grit and honed characters we all HATE to see killed off that forms the base, and the author with ego and all that makes the keyboard do it's magic.

..THAT pal, is the 'real' magic here. Not the ships, not the tech, not the food that comes out of a fancy replicator. It's you, me, and every poster that takes a chance of being made fun of and posts her for the blasted fun of it. And THAT is why I'm [/rant], because it's rps like that last one we did that kills the fun. You wana play that way, have fun trying to rp with anyone else that won't get fed up somewhere down the line.

As for that comment, blow it out your ear pal. Sorry, but I know the tone on the other side of the monitor, and you 'don't' need to be pulling a stunt like that in an rp. If you have a problem with it, TG me so I can ignore it there.

Like momma 'should' have told me if she was still alive after I was five, if you got nothing nice to say, don't say it.

I also bet she'd rip into someone with poor manners like this as well. And not just me either. :mad:

Yes I am THAT irked. ))
Jangle Jangle Ridge
19-04-2005, 01:21
OOC: Ranty, are we? You forgot something. Logistics. I have been at Nationstates for longer than many, many people. I am within the top ten OLDEST and LARGEST space tech nations of Nationstates. And these vehicles are the best I had to offer at the time. I had made about five, and them composed around 5% of my military apiece for sheer strength. And here you are, a tiny, green little nation, in a group of tiny, green little nations, each either foolish enough to think they can singlehandedly take on one of my better ships, or just good enough chaps to give me a chance to intro my ships, even though it means loosing some old clunkers that it made sense to send out on a search party. You seem to think of me as some sort of idiot. I just think of you as an ignorant little puke that assumes that since he is good at absolute freeform RP, he can entirely ignore logistics and make stupidly impossible things. Oh, and, as a note, people did hit me, despite the fact that they were using conventional weapons on a ship specifically designed to block every possible conventional weapon, and some unconventional weapons as well! Honestly, think before shooting missiles at someone that can use spread weaponry like Yamamoto cannons, PACs, and waves of Grav Cannons.

It seems that you missed the ENTIRE POINT OF THE THREAD. This was for me to show off my shiny new toys. It was a ship intro thread. A plot device practically. You throw stuff at my ships, I laugh and blow it up. If I wanted a battle, I would have invaded a planet, not just sent some ships to go wandering out.

Oh, yes, and you know all those buildings you are listing, as if they are somehow a good thing for your reputation? They make you seem more idiotic with each one. Just because you don't use them doesn't make it ok. It just makes it mildly less annoying. That's it.

And, in reference to the arcing, basically everything I used when fighting you, besides the lasers, were field effect weapons. When I said arcs, I meants arcing fields of gravity. Not arcing "blasts". Field-effect weapons don't arc. I don't what the hell you could possibly be talking about.
Ankhmet
19-04-2005, 17:05
OOC: Ranty, are we? You forgot something. Logistics. I have been at Nationstates for longer than many, many people. I am within the top ten OLDEST and LARGEST space tech nations of Nationstates. And these vehicles are the best I had to offer at the time. I had made about five, and them composed around 5% of my military apiece for sheer strength. And here you are, a tiny, green little nation, in a group of tiny, green little nations, each either foolish enough to think they can singlehandedly take on one of my better ships, or just good enough chaps to give me a chance to intro my ships, even though it means loosing some old clunkers that it made sense to send out on a search party. You seem to think of me as some sort of idiot. I just think of you as an ignorant little puke that assumes that since he is good at absolute freeform RP, he can entirely ignore logistics and make stupidly impossible things. Oh, and, as a note, people did hit me, despite the fact that they were using conventional weapons on a ship specifically designed to block every possible conventional weapon, and some unconventional weapons as well! Honestly, think before shooting missiles at someone that can use spread weaponry like Yamamoto cannons, PACs, and waves of Grav Cannons.

It seems that you missed the ENTIRE POINT OF THE THREAD. This was for me to show off my shiny new toys. It was a ship intro thread. A plot device practically. You throw stuff at my ships, I laugh and blow it up. If I wanted a battle, I would have invaded a planet, not just sent some ships to go wandering out.

Oh, yes, and you know all those buildings you are listing, as if they are somehow a good thing for your reputation? They make you seem more idiotic with each one. Just because you don't use them doesn't make it ok. It just makes it mildly less annoying. That's it.

And, in reference to the arcing, basically everything I used when fighting you, besides the lasers, were field effect weapons. When I said arcs, I meants arcing fields of gravity. Not arcing "blasts". Field-effect weapons don't arc. I don't what the hell you could possibly be talking about.


Go Jingle Jangle! Down with ranty newbies.
-Bretonia-
19-04-2005, 19:09
Seriously. You people are all as bad as each other. I give up on this place.
Crystal Palais
20-04-2005, 00:53
You people need to put a sock in it and end the ranting. This isn't your thread, it's Dratheria's, and it's not about who can wank better.
Chronosia
20-04-2005, 00:56
*stifles laughter* that would bring it down to wrist action