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Auction Of Naval Equipment Production Rights

North East Somerset
03-04-2005, 15:40
The North East Somerset Naval yards are in a bad condition. Lack of orders has meant most of the shipyards are beyond repair. Also the fact the mods deleted North West Somerset didn't help! The North East Somerset Naval authorities have decided to employ an agency to buy any future military equipment from foreign countries (primarily Praetonia). This means the production rights for the naval equipment of the navy can be sold to the highest bidder. Let me remind you that the Thread was a 4 STAR and the SHIPYARDS HAVE SOLD OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS OF EQUIPMENT.

*************AUCTION OVER**************

Production rights will be sold separately for each of the companies involved:

- Collins Weaponry (‘Skimmer’ Standard anti-Ship Missile, 'Dragon’ Standard anti-Aircraft Missile) = Sarzonia and Isselmere ($176 billion)

- Smiths Weaponry (‘Chaser’ Standard anti-Submarine Torpedo) = Sarzonia and Isselmere ($176 billion)

- Brookes Shipyard (‘Atlanta’ Class Frigate (F240), Pacifica’ Class Destroyer (D320), ‘Arctica’ Class Cruiser (CC480) = SHIPYARDS - Sarzonia, Praetonia and Isselmere ($325 billion) DESIGNS - Wallis and Futuna ($30 billion)

- Abel Shipyard ( Fisher Class’ Patrol Submarine (S1500), ‘Whaler Class’ Attack Submarine (S2500) = SHIPYARDS - Sarzonia, Praetonia and Isselmere ($325 billion) DESIGNS - Wallis and Futuna ($30 billion)

- Inglis Shipyard ('Superior Class' Corvette (C100), International Class’ Patrol Ship (P50) = SHIPYARDS - Sarzonia, Praetonia and Isselmere ($325 billion) DESIGNS - Wallis and Futuna ($30 billion)

(NOTE THAT THE ISLAND OF ROSE HAS PRODUCTION RIGHTS FOR THE SUPERIOR CLASS CORVETTE ALREADY. BUT WE ALSO HAVE PRODUCTION RIGHTS AND WILL SELL THEM TO THE WINNING BIDDER OF THE INGLIS SHIPYARD SECTION).

*************AUCTION OVER**************

ALL EQUIPMENT CAN BE SEEN IN THIS LINK:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=344096
Socialist Prussians
03-04-2005, 15:59
We will bid $3 billion dollars for the Brookes shipyard.
Al Fujairah
03-04-2005, 16:07
this presents a good opportunity to get some stuff for my navy, I'll bid $1 billion for Abel and $0.5 billion for smiths weaponrey.
Wallis and Futuna
03-04-2005, 16:13
The United Socialist States of Wallis and Futuna would like to expand their navy with equipment made in Wallis and Futuna. The designing of equipment is currently proving hard, therefore we would like to bid for the following:

Collins Weaponry : $1 billion
Smiths Weaponry : $1 billion
Inglis Shipyards : $2 billion
Abel Shipyards : $2 billion
Brookes Shipyards : $9 billion

Total : $15 billion
Socialist Prussians
03-04-2005, 16:15
We increase our bid from $3 billion to $10 billion
Tagmatium
03-04-2005, 16:17
I bid a shiny penny.
Wallis and Futuna
03-04-2005, 16:20
We increase our bid for Brookes to $15 billion

-SMIG-N
Geisenfried
03-04-2005, 16:23
The Constitutional Monarchy of Geisenfried bids 2.5 billion for Abel Shipyards.
Socialist Prussians
03-04-2005, 16:27
Bid increased to $30 billion
Wallis and Futuna
03-04-2005, 16:28
I bid $5 billion for Inglis shipyards and $35 billion for Brookes shipyards.
Socialist Prussians
03-04-2005, 16:31
Bid increased to $40 billion
North East Somerset
03-04-2005, 16:49
*current Highest Bids Updated*
Dumpsterdam
03-04-2005, 17:04
The Empire wishes to know if said items contain not only the blueprints for the bought vessles but also the dockyards, since we are looking for a decent sized off-Isles production site.

If so we wish to offer 50 billion for the Brookes Shipyard.

Dinius Hampton,
Director Royal Tallarnian Dockyards.

OoC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=400407&page=1
Socialist Prussians
03-04-2005, 19:18
We will increase our bid to $55 billion dollars.
Independent Hitmen
03-04-2005, 20:03
$59 Billion USD for the whole shipyard.
Praetonia
12-04-2005, 17:54
$60bn for the shipyards themselves, although we arent interested in the vessels.
Isselmere
12-04-2005, 18:37
$75 billion for the shipyards, and a further $25 billion for the weapon design rights
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 18:39
$100 billion for the shipyards and $50 billion for the weapons systems.
Praetonia
12-04-2005, 19:55
$125bn for the shipyards, still no bid for the designs.
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 20:07
$150 billion for the shipyards, $50 billion for the weapons systems. No bid for the ship designs.
Isselmere
12-04-2005, 20:44
$200 billion for the shipyards, $75 billion for the weapons systems, $25 billion for the ship designs

AND

one house-trained wombat
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 20:56
$250 billion for the shipyards; $100 billion for the weapons systems. Nothing for the ship designs.
Praetonia
12-04-2005, 21:00
Bid of $251bn for the shipyards.

Isselmere and Sarz: Before we all outbid each other to the point that these shipyards which are, and I quote, "almost beyond repair", possibly going to cost us a trillion or more... how about I buy them, then give you each 1 of the shipyards, meaning we each get one and dont drive the price up any further (and split the price between us, of course).
Isselmere
12-04-2005, 21:03
OOC: Praetonia, that sounds good to me.

IC:
For the weapons systems, $110 billion
For the ship designs, $25 billion

I think we're past the bid date though (7 April 2005). Oops.
Praetonia
12-04-2005, 21:06
I think we're past the bid date though (7 April 2005). Oops.
I'm sure that NES wont mind the extra cash. =)
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 21:08
Bid of $251bn for the shipyards.

Isselmere and Sarz: Before we all outbid each other to the point that these shipyards which are, and I quote, "almost beyond repair", possibly going to cost us a trillion or more... how about I buy them, then give you each 1 of the shipyards, meaning we each get one and dont drive the price up any further (and split the price between us, of course).OOC: Sounds good to me, as well.

Then again, if NES is American, that could mean the auction ends in July.

IC: $150 billion for the weapons systems.
Isselmere
12-04-2005, 21:11
$151 billion for the weapons systems, $25 billion for the ship designs
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 21:14
$175 billion for the weapons systems.
Isselmere
12-04-2005, 21:16
OOC: Sarzonia, how about we split $176 billion for the weapons systems? Joint rights?

For the weapons systems, $176 billion
For the ship designs, $25 billion
Sarzonia
12-04-2005, 21:18
OOC: Sarzonia, how about we split $176 billion for the weapons systems? Joint rights?

For the weapons systems, $176 billion
For the ship designs, $25 billionOOC: That works for me.
Dumpsterdam
13-04-2005, 08:20
300 billion for the goddamned shipyards, now buzz off you two! ;)
Isselmere
13-04-2005, 15:52
Pursuant to the agreement with Praetonia and Sarzonia, $301 billion. :)
Dumpsterdam
13-04-2005, 16:32
I'll top your bid at 302, unless you somehow want a pact between our shipyards. ;)
Sarzonia
13-04-2005, 16:52
Pursuant to prior agreements with both IPS and RSIN Corp, Sarzonia bids $305 billion.
Dumpsterdam
13-04-2005, 17:20
Due to the fact, that, we will not be outbid; 310.
Sarzonia
13-04-2005, 17:35
$325 billion.
Independent Hitmen
13-04-2005, 18:37
OOC:You guys realise that he said the auction would close ages ago, and he hasnt posted for ages either??
North East Somerset
13-04-2005, 18:51
I'm back, and I am announcing the bidding will end at 7:30pm (UK/LONDON TIME). (Thats in 30 minutes.......). I appologise about being away on holiday.
Wallis and Futuna
13-04-2005, 19:36
We bid $30 billion for the ship designs.
Sarzonia
13-04-2005, 19:38
We bid $35 billion for the ship designs and $340 billion for the shipyards and weapons systems.
Dumpsterdam
13-04-2005, 19:39
350 for the shipyards...
Praetonia
13-04-2005, 19:40
Sarz and IN: No offence to NES... but why do you want the designs? They're inferior to what you already make.

EDIT: $355bn for the shipyards - Dumpsterdam a nation at war cant outbid three other nations.
Wallis and Futuna
13-04-2005, 19:48
$40 billion for the ship designs, my nation needs them.....
North East Somerset
13-04-2005, 19:52
AUCTION OVER

Sarzonia and Isselmere have purchased the weapons systems for $176 billion in a joint deal. This includes the SSM system, SAM weapons and torpedoes.

Sarzonia, Isselmere and Praetonia have purchased the shipyards which they can share out amongst each other. They payed $325 billion for them. There are 3 shipyards: Abel, Brookes and Inglis. The size of the locks are 200m long by 20m wide for the Abel and Inglis shipyards. Brookes is larger with a 300m x 30m lock. All of the shipyards have a large area of land around them to expand into, but are rather derelict. We suggest a renovation program which possibly includes enlarging the facilities.

The ship designs will be sold to Wallis and Futuna for £40 billion. This includes a range of ships from corvettes to cruisers, patrol ships to destroyers.

All profits will be shared out to the companies involved.

Thankyou, NES Head of Defence Dep.
Dumpsterdam
13-04-2005, 20:03
Sarz and IN: No offence to NES... but why do you want the designs? They're inferior to what you already make.

EDIT: $355bn for the shipyards - Dumpsterdam a nation at war cant outbid three other nations.

OoC: Please Prae, don't act like you know squat about me, if I decide to upp my bid then thats my decision. If you have any further problems with me, please take a number and go to the back of the line...
Praetonia
13-04-2005, 20:09
OoC: Please Prae, don't act like you know squat about me, if I decide to upp my bid then thats my decision. If you have any further problems with me, please take a number and go to the back of the line...
I'm not accusing you of godmodding, I'm just saying there isnt much point in you continuing to drive up the price as we can keep bidding longer than you can... you dont have to be so defencive :S The auction is over anyway.
North East Somerset
13-04-2005, 20:12
It will simply be taken that Sarzonia and Isselmere both have JOINT production rights to the Collins and Smiths weaponry.

Wallis and Futuna will have production the SOLE production rights to the Abel, Brookes and Inglis ship and submarine designs.

Praetonia, Sarzonia and Isselmere have bought the shipyards themselves, they will have to decide amognst them who will have which one: remember one is better than the others, the Brookes yard is bigger and in better condition.

Thank you.
Sarzonia
13-04-2005, 20:27
For Immediate Release

Tucker, PIW help SPIN a win

Portland, Somerset (ASP) -- The Portland Iron Works, along with two other shipyards won control of three naval shipyards being vacated by North East Somerset's naval shipyard company. PIW also won joint production rights to weapons systems in an auction conducted by North East Somerset's naval shipyard company.

"These are important acquisitions for us as we continue to grow our business," ISN Rear Admiral (Ret.) Barbara Tucker, managing director of PIW, said in a statement given shortly after the auction's winners were announced. "We continue to strive to be the best naval shipyard company in the world and this is one more step in that direction."

The deal means that PIW, the Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland Corporation, and the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards will each control one naval shipyard, while RSIN Corporation and PIW receive joint production rights for the Collins and Smith weaponry systems, which include ASW torpedoes, anti-shipping missiles, and SAM weaponry.

"We have had a longtime friendly competitiveness and cooperation with both companies, so this shouldn't be treated as anything new," Tucker said. "PIW has, along with our friends in RSIN and IPS, helped to SPIN a win." PIW executives have taken to referring to the three-way bid with their sister companies as the SPIN Bid, standing for Sarzonia, Praetonia, and Isselmere-Nieland.

Tucker also said that if the PIW received the Brookes yard, she would take steps to ensure that construction and repair/refit facilities for the shipyard would be compatible with IPS and RSIN ships as well as PIW's. In addition, PIW offered to pay $125 billion while the other shipyard companies paid $100 billion each.

"Those two companies are whom we've taken our cues from in many respects," Tucker said. "It's a move that we think makes sense for us, and for them."

Adding the weapons systems will go a long way toward improving compatibility between RSIN and PIW designs, Tucker said.

"Absolutely," Tucker said. "The more compatible our three companies are, the better off it will be for all of us. Those are two of the finest naval shipyard companies in the world and we're fortunate to have had them as inspirations for our own progress."
Isselmere
14-04-2005, 02:43
Fortune favours the Troika
Colin Macclethwaite

GRIMSBY DOWNS, Anguist (IPA) - Neville Colwan, director-general for the Royal Shipyards, bore a Cheshire-like grin today as he exited the enterprise's headquarters. The news: further expansion of the RSIN abroad into North East Somerset (NES) along with its two partners, the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards (IPS) and the Portland Iron Works (PIW). Not only that, but the PIW and the RSIN secured the designs for NES weapons systems, expanding their inventories and providing further options for their customers.

"This is a great day for our three organisations," Mr Colwan announced. "It will provide us further dock space and will employ a great number of North East Somerset residents." As for which of the three dockyards the RSIN is hoping to get, Mr Colwan was optimistic he would get the one his firm desired. "Either Abel or Inglis," he smiled. "Their smaller size will allow us to incorporate a greater number of improvements that will permit the yards to manufacture a wider range of vessels." Work on the new acquisition would begin once which yard goes to whom is decided between the three firms (RSIN, PIW, and IPS).

"It's a great day for shipbuilding and for the honoured nation of North East Somerset."
North East Somerset
16-04-2005, 11:57
North East Somerset have announced that Sarzonia will probably receive the main shipyard 'Brookes'. 'Abel' will go to Praetonia and 'Inglis' to Isselmere. This decision is not an insult on either Praetonia or Isselmere, it reflects a decision we have made to buy Sarzonian equipment. If the deal goes ahead equipment we buy from the PIW will be made at the 'Brookes' shipyard.

We were planning on buying Praetonian equipment at first but we have changed our mind because we don't want to change weapon systems, we hope to now buy our equipment off PIW armed with our naval weapons systems.

Brookes shipyard has 20km2 of land attached to it, the other two have 10km2. It also has a larger docking area, more berths and a bigger lock.

Sarzonia will pay $125 billion, Praetonia and Isselmere each will pay $100 billion each if an agreement is reached.

A deal will only go ahead if all three people involved agree to it, and Sarzonia agree to produce ships for us at the 'Brookes' shipyard, and agree to adapt a range of their ships to carry NES weaponry.

- NESN authorities.
Geisenfried
16-04-2005, 14:37
From the desk of the Secretary of Defense

I'd like to know why we do not get at least part of the rights to Abel Shipyards when we technically had the highest bid for it at the time when the rights were supposed to be sold originally.

Respectfully,
Nicolas Wiltz
Secretary of Defense for the Constitutional Monarchy of Geisenfried
Isselmere
16-04-2005, 23:31
North East Somerset have announced that Sarzonia will probably receive the main shipyard 'Brookes'. 'Abel' will go to Praetonia and 'Inglis' to Isselmere. This decision is not an insult on either Praetonia or Isselmere, it reflects a decision we have made to buy Sarzonian equipment. If the deal goes ahead equipment we buy from the PIW will be made at the 'Brookes' shipyard.

We were planning on buying Praetonian equipment at first but we have changed our mind because we don't want to change weapon systems, we hope to now buy our equipment off PIW armed with our naval weapons systems.

Brookes shipyard has 20km2 of land attached to it, the other two have 10km2. It also has a larger docking area, more berths and a bigger lock.

Sarzonia will pay $125 billion, Praetonia and Isselmere each will pay $100 billion each if an agreement is reached.

A deal will only go ahead if all three people involved agree to it, and Sarzonia agree to produce ships for us at the 'Brookes' shipyard, and agree to adapt a range of their ships to carry NES weaponry.

- NESN authorities.
We agree to those conditions and accept the title to the Inglis shipyard.
North East Somerset
17-04-2005, 18:27
We acknowledge your complaint/query Geisenfried, but we changed our decision on the grounds that Isselmere, Praetonia and Sarzonia made a very large joint bid for all the dockyards, and 'Wallis and Futuna' made a large bid for the designs. We are aware we may have broken our own auction rules slightly, but this was in order to make more money, which was at the start the aim of the exercise. We do however appreciate your views, but we are under no legislation to not change conditions of the auction. We have sent $0.3 billion in cash to your nation in return for the unfairness of the auction.

Secondly can Praetonia and Sarzonia acknowledge the shipyard deals.

- NES Defense and Economic Dep.
North East Somerset
18-04-2005, 18:37
Can Praetonia and Sarzonia acknowledge the shipyard deals, thankyou.
Sarzonia
18-04-2005, 18:41
We acknowledge and accept the terms of the agreement.

-Rear Admiral Barbara Tucker (ISN-Ret.)
Managing Director, Portland Iron Works
Praetonia
18-04-2005, 18:44
[OOC: Im confused... who is getting the big shipyard? A minute ago it was Sarzonia and now it's me.]
North East Somerset
18-04-2005, 19:07
To clear the matter up, Praetonia will receive the largest shipyard. At first we wanted Praetonia to make our ships. Then they did not purchase our weaponry and we didn't want to change weaponry systmes for economical reasons, so we selected Sarzonia to make our ships. Now we have decided to offer Praetonia the shipyard again so long as they build their ships and we can add our weapons systems in Brookes.

Praetonia will pay $125 billion for Brookes, Isselmere will pay $100 billion for Inglis and Sarzonia will pay $100 billion for Abel.

Please can everyone involved confirm this, and Praetonia accept the terms.

-NESN authorities.
North East Somerset
19-04-2005, 20:32
Please can everyone involved confirm the new terms, thankyou.
Sarzonia
19-04-2005, 20:40
We acknowledge and accept the terms of the agreement as previously noted for the Abel shipyard.

-Rear Admiral Barbara Tucker (ISN-Ret.)
Managing Director, Portland Iron Works
Isselmere
19-04-2005, 21:14
On behalf of the Royal Shipyards, I accept the transfer of title of the Inglis shipyard to my firm for $100 billion.

[Signed]
Neville Colwan

Director-General
Royal Shipyards
Grimsby Downs, Anguist, UKIN
Praetonia
19-04-2005, 21:22
These terms are most agreeable. The sum will be wired immediately.

- Sir Galius Fortuanus, MP
Director-General of Imperial Praetonian Shipyards
North East Somerset
20-04-2005, 19:49
I thank Sarzonia, Praetonia and Isselmere for confirming the shipyard deals. I hope they bring your companies great profits and help you to globalise your warship manufacturing services.

- NESN authorities

(We are closing this thread unofficially in 24 hours time. This means we will not be obliged to reply. Please post any questions/queries/proposals you may have about the shipyards/designs within the time limit).
Wallis and Futuna
20-04-2005, 20:33
The United Socialist States of Wallis and Futuna would like to propose an offer for your weaponry systems. Sarzonia and Isselmere made a joint bid during the auction for the weaponry systems ($176 Billion). We are prepared to offer $110 billion (in cash) for the weapons. This means both Wallis and Futuna, Sarzonia and Isselmere will have rights for the designs.

*Money wired on Confirmation*

- State Military and Industrial Group - Naval Department (SMIG-N)
Isselmere
21-04-2005, 01:10
The United Socialist States of Wallis and Futuna would like to propose an offer for your weaponry systems. Sarzonia and Isselmere made a joint bid during the auction for the weaponry systems ($176 Billion). We are prepared to offer $110 billion (in cash) for the weapons. This means both Wallis and Futuna, Sarzonia and Isselmere will have rights for the designs.

*Money wired on Confirmation*

- State Military and Industrial Group - Naval Department (SMIG-N)
His Majesty's Government finds such a proposal contrary to the agreement set and would steadfastly campaign against the acceptance of such a scheme. As was previously established, Isselmere-Nieland and Sarzonia would maintain exclusive foreign production rights for those weapons systems. If necessary, HM Government will outbid any possible offer made by the USS of Wallis and Futuna, though we would be more likely to fight this matter before the courts.

On a lighter note, HM Government would like to purchase the land attached to the Inglis Shipyard so that it might be expanded to the size of the Brookes Shipyard and wonders how much such a procurement would cost.

I humbly await your response.

Sincerely,

The Rt. Hon. Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN
Sarzonia
21-04-2005, 01:52
Official Statement, Incorporated Sarzonian Government

We are unwilling to ascede to a proposal whereby the United Socialist States of Wallis and Futuna receives the weapons in addition to the rights secured by the Portland Iron Works and the Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland. Wallis and Futuna are welcome to make separate arrangements with the RSIN Corporation or the Portland Iron Works pending the approval of their respective national governments; however, as the saying goes, "a deal is a deal." We would also contest such a matter in the court system.

We would also like to inquire about the purchase of the land surrounding the Abel shipyard to allow expansion to the same size as the Brookes Shipyard. Please contact us regarding these arrangements.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
North East Somerset
21-04-2005, 18:48
The proposal from Wallis and Futuna is accepted and confirmed. The rights to all the weaponry systems will be sold to them for $110 billion as proposed.

We retain the rights to sell the designs to as many people as we want and will not accept Isselmere or Sarzonia claiming they have exclusive rights to the weaponry systems. We did not enter an agreement whereby you had exclusive rights or we could not sell the designs on to other people after the auction. We are not a member of an international court system and would ignore any such decision in a court. This proposal is not an auction and the rights have been sold in a single deal. Any further questioning of our rights to sell our equipment will be treated with contempt. We will not be forced out of our rights, with agreements that we never signed up to, or will we be intimidated by Sarzonia or Isselmere!

The land around all the shipyards is made up of privately owned factories and warehouses. No such deal whereby you acquire additional land could be made currently.

We have now announced that no more proposals are welcome from any parties and the deals will close with these conditions:

Abel Shipyards - Sarzonia.
Inglis shipyards - Isselmere.
Brookes Shipyards - Praetonia.

Weaponry systems - North East Somerset, Sarzonia, Isselmer and Wallis and Futuna.

Warship and Subamarine designs - North East Somerset, Wallis and Futuna, (Corvette design also owned by Island of Rose).

NESN authorities
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 00:30
The proposal from Wallis and Futuna is accepted and confirmed. The rights to all the weaponry systems will be sold to them for $110 billion as proposed.

We retain the rights to sell the designs to as many people as we want and will not accept Isselmere or Sarzonia claiming they have exclusive rights to the weaponry systems. We did not enter an agreement whereby you had exclusive rights or we could not sell the designs on to other people after the auction. We are not a member of an international court system and would ignore any such decision in a court. This proposal is not an auction and the rights have been sold in a single deal. Any further questioning of our rights to sell our equipment will be treated with contempt. We will not be forced out of our rights, with agreements that we never signed up to, or will we be intimidated by Sarzonia or Isselmere!

The land around all the shipyards is made up of privately owned factories and warehouses. No such deal whereby you acquire additional land could be made currently.

We have now announced that no more proposals are welcome from any parties and the deals will close with these conditions:

Abel Shipyards - Sarzonia.
Inglis shipyards - Isselmere.
Brookes Shipyards - Praetonia.

Weaponry systems - North East Somerset, Sarzonia, Isselmer and Wallis and Futuna.

Warship and Subamarine designs - North East Somerset, Wallis and Futuna, (Corvette design also owned by Island of Rose).

NESN authorities
If that's the case, then Wallis and Futuna can pay the bulk of the funds Sarzonia and Isselmere-Nieland were expected to pay to acquire those rights to the weapons systems ($110 billion of $176 billion). Any attempt to oblige either Isselmere-Nieland or Sarzonia to pay more than $33 billion each will be considered null and void by the Isselmere-Nieland government.
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 11:16
We are sorry but you have already payed the money, and we are not obliged to refund you. Wallis and Futuna payed a fair sum for the weapons systems, and we accepted it. You have paid the $176 billion between yourself and Sarzonia, the deal is concluded and there will be no refunds.

NESN authorities.
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 15:46
Any attempt to oblige either Isselmere-Nieland or Sarzonia to pay more than $33 billion each will be considered null and void by the Isselmere-Nieland government.
My refusal to pay more than the above-stated amount stems from my first complaint and you are in no position to state how much I may or may not have paid since you are in breach of contract.
Dumpsterdam
22-04-2005, 15:51
OoC: Well well well, OoC'ly I find this a fishy deal but IC'ly I'm laughing my ass off.

Try to apply some gunboat diplomacy Isselmere, that'll do.
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 16:07
OoC: Well well well, OoC'ly I find this a fishy deal but IC'ly I'm laughing my ass off.

Try to apply some gunboat diplomacy Isselmere, that'll do.
OOC: I was thinking the same, with a little occupation force to secure the additional land required to expand the shipyard, but I doubt that gunboat diplomacy would work against a nation that seems unbound by RPing conventions. That said...

IC:

The Littoral Defence Force, along with the four fleets of the Flying Squadrons, have left their moorings and are sailing for shores unknown...
Dumpsterdam
22-04-2005, 16:10
OOC: I was thinking the same, with a little occupation force to secure the additional land required to expand the shipyard, but I doubt that gunboat diplomacy would work against a nation that seems unbound by RPing conventions. That said...

IC:

The Littoral Defence Force, along with the four fleets of the Flying Squadrons, have left their moorings and are sailing for shores unknown...

OoC: Talking about conventions, you have a AIM or MSN adress you could TG to me? I have something I want to discuss with you.
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 16:14
OoC: Talking about conventions, you have a AIM or MSN adress you could TG to me? I have something I want to discuss with you.
OOC: Sorry, but no. You could TG me, or I, you. Whichever you prefer.
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 19:16
If Isselmere wishes to not co-operate we will simply legally nationalise the Inglis shipyard, without giving them a refund.

We did not mean to cause you trouble over this issue but it was not stated anywhere that you had exclusive rights and that I could not sell the designs on after they were sold to you. Your aggressive actions after the deal was signed will not be tolerated!

NESN authorities
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 19:18
OOC: We are mobilising our armed forces, and calling for all allies to be on alert.
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 19:33
Having repudiated both the letter and the spirit of the agreements signed, having taken Isselmere-Nielander property that had been rightly purchased in accordance with the law, having attempted -- attempted, that is -- to steal funds that were to be paid to the government of North East Somerset, that nation has declared itself to be an outlaw and shall be punished with the full weight of the Defence Forces of Isselmere-Nieland.

As of this moment, a blockade has been declared around that rogue nation and all satellites of NES origin above that nation or anywhere they might be found without impinging upon the sovereign land of another nation, shall be destroyed. The region surrounding the Inglis shipyard as well as that shipyard itself and, should our position be taken lightly, the NES capital itself, shall be subjected to orbital bombardment until such time as we see fit. All NES naval bases, air bases, aerospace launch sites, army bases, refineries, power stations, communications nexi, distribution points and other areas of interest will similarly be targetted.

Our resolve is not to be ignored, and our concerns are not to be repudiated. Had the NES behaved in a more appropriate manner, We would not need to take such actions, but We cannot accept having our status reviled in such a way.

HM the King Henry V
UKIN

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OOC: Six full battle fleets are heading in your direction and the actions listed above are going into effect... now.

Old UKIN fleet listings: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411504
Praetonia
22-04-2005, 20:20
To: Whom it May Concern, Isselmere-Neiland
From: Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Subject: Military Actions in North East Somerset

The Imperial Praetonian Government wishes to seek assurance from our Isselmere-Neilander counterparts that Praetonian personel, vessels and facilities inside North East Somerset will not be disrupted, as we are sure they will not be. We also wish to seek assurances that supplies of food, medicine and fuel will not be impeded, as without such supplies North East Somerset is likely to cease to function as a nation and decend into anarchy or matrial law, merely resulting in more deaths than are already likely to occur as a result of this drastically over-inflated situation.

Whilst we understand the position that you find yourselves in, committing a full-blown act of war against a nation which has done little more than (deliberately or not) deceive you into believing that the rights to the weapons would be exclusive, despite that never being stated. We would much prefer that diplomatic avenues be further exploited before such a large deployment of forces is embarked upon. Regardless, it is not our place to interfere with the situation and provided we have your assurances that our own interests and the wider humanitarian interests will not be affected, we do not have any particular concerns with you ignoring our advice.
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 21:01
To: Whom it May Concern, Isselmere-Neiland
From: Tiberius Polax, MP
Foreign Secretary
Subject: Military Actions in North East Somerset

The Imperial Praetonian Government wishes to seek assurance from our Isselmere-Neilander counterparts that Praetonian personel, vessels and facilities inside North East Somerset will not be disrupted, as we are sure they will not be. We also wish to seek assurances that supplies of food, medicine and fuel will not be impeded, as without such supplies North East Somerset is likely to cease to function as a nation and decend into anarchy or matrial law, merely resulting in more deaths than are already likely to occur as a result of this drastically over-inflated situation.

Whilst we understand the position that you find yourselves in, committing a full-blown act of war against a nation which has done little more than (deliberately or not) deceive you into believing that the rights to the weapons would be exclusive, despite that never being stated. We would much prefer that diplomatic avenues be further exploited before such a large deployment of forces is embarked upon. Regardless, it is not our place to interfere with the situation and provided we have your assurances that our own interests and the wider humanitarian interests will not be affected, we do not have any particular concerns with you ignoring our advice.
OOC: Yes, I admit, I'm completely over-reacting. Honestly, I'd accept an apology, a slight refund, something entirely nominal simply as a sign of good faith, and the return of the shipyard. Similarly, I'd sent the fleets to sea thinking that he would nationalise the shipyard thus giving me the spurious justification to declare war on him for seizing property of the realm (the Inglis shipyard). This is certainly a drastic departure from my usual behaviour, and is quite possibly hypocritical, but the lack of tact in his initial and subsequent replies to my admittedly churlish attitude rankled. Like I wrote, an apology and the rest, and everything is fine.


To: Tiberius Polax, Foreign Secretary, Democratic Imperium of Praetonia
From: Sir George Fredericks, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development, United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland
Subject: Re: Military Actions in North East Somerset

Your Excellency,

I must apologise to the glorious nation of Praetonia for any inconvenience our forthcoming actions in North East Somerset might cause. The UKIN-DF shall, of course, avoid all property belonging to the illustrious Praetonian nation in its actions. We in HM Government regret that the situation has devolved to the point at which it was felt armed force was required, but the seizure of property that had been rightly acquired in good faith -- the Inglis Shipyard -- by the Royal Shipyards and slights to our nation have brought these circumstances about. We, as does Your Excellency, hope this situation may be resolved before it becomes worse.

Regarding North East Somerset functioning as a nation after military action, we would view that as an unfortunate circumstance of war should it occur. That written, the Defence Forces of Isselmere-Nieland would not hinder shipments of food or medicine to North East Somerset, providing such was not being used by the military and with the acknowledgement that vessels travelling to that nation would be subject to search for contraband. Any vessels found carrying contraband as well as legitimate trade items will be seized. As for fuel, again, it would be subject to the knowledge of whether that product was being used for military purposes.

We in HM Government apologises once again to the people and government of Praetonia for this forceful behaviour and hope to assure you that this is not nor shall it ever be a common occurrence.

Sincerely yours,

The Rt. Hon. Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 21:13
This is a disgrace, we do not want a war over naval weaponry systems rights being sold to someone else, as well as you, when you didn't even have official exclusive rights. It is ridiculous that you think you can invade a nation and kill many people because of a minor trading disagreement. You are clearly abusing your powers, to threaten us to hand you exclusive rights. It does not even matter to you if Wallis and Futuna have the weapons systems as well. The weapons systems are not even the latest of technology, frankly a nation of your might I would have thought would want better than a downgraded version of Praetonian designs, which is what they are!

If you continue with this invasion, we will appeal to all nations of NS to defend us. This is an unprovoked attack which could result in millions dead! And it is entirely pointless and avoidable. Destroying our capital city relentlessly and killing millions will not solve the problem......there will not be any shipyards left. If you want to own a hipyard in our country you should co-operate with us like Praetonia does.

We have taken appropriate action in all circumstances. We did NOT sell you exclusive rights to the weaponry systems, and when we sold them to one other nation you threaten us with orbital bombardment! It is an outrage. We have nothing against your nation, we are simply selling rights to another nation, it hardly accounts for an invasion!

Terence Procter, President of North East Somerset.
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 21:16
We will not nationalise the shipyards or take any action against you in any way, if you do not invade us. We still defend our rights to sell the weaponry systems to anyone though.

NESN authorities
Sarzonia
22-04-2005, 21:22
The Incorporated Sarzonian government condemns the actions undertaken by North East Somerset and we declare them to be in breach of contract. As a result, we declare our agreements with North East Somerset null and void and any monies due to be received by North East Somerset shall not be forthcoming.

We call upon our Isselmere-Nielander brethren to seek out a diplomatic solution to this pending crisis and we ask that any Sarzonian assets currently in North East Somerset remain unaffected. However, we believe the impetuous nature of the actions undertaken by North East Somerset require a response that is in line with the magnitude of the violations.

As a result, we are announcing that any Sarzonian citizens, embassy, consular, or other diplomatic or military personnel in North East Somerset or her territories shall be instructed to return to Sarzonia within 72 hours. We are also instructing North East Somerset's personnel to leave Sarzonian territory within 72 hours or they shall face detainment. In addition, any goods or services imported from North East Somerset shall receive a punitive tariff of not less than five times our standard tariff rates for countries that do not currently have a free trade agreement with the Incorporated States of Sarzonia.

In addition, we are announcing that North East Somerset shall henceforth be prohibited from making purchases at the Portland Iron Works, the Avalon Aerospace Corporation, or the Incorporated Defence Company until such time as their government can show more respect for contract law. The government of North East Somerset could have averted this pending crisis by showing some respect for contract law and by not choosing to behave in a manner unbecoming a national government or a major defence corporation. They can avert further damage to their reputation or to their material properties by choosing the path of negotiation. We call upon them to undertake this route.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 21:35
This is a disgrace, we do not want a war over naval weaponry systems rights being sold to someone else, as well as you, when you didn't even have official exclusive rights. It is ridiculous that you think you can invade a nation and kill many people because of a minor trading disagreement. You are clearly abusing your powers, to threaten us to hand you exclusive rights. It does not even matter to you if Wallis and Futuna have the weapons systems as well. The weapons systems are not even the latest of technology, frankly a nation of your might I would have thought would want better than a downgraded version of Praetonian designs, which is what they are!

If you continue with this invasion, we will appeal to all nations of NS to defend us. This is an unprovoked attack which could result in millions dead! And it is entirely pointless and avoidable. Destroying our capital city relentlessly and killing millions will not solve the problem......there will not be any shipyards left. If you want to own a hipyard in our country you should co-operate with us like Praetonia does.

We have taken appropriate action in all circumstances. We did NOT sell you exclusive rights to the weaponry systems, and when we sold them to one other nation you threaten us with orbital bombardment! It is an outrage. We have nothing against your nation, we are simply selling rights to another nation, it hardly accounts for an invasion!

Terence Procter, President of North East Somerset.
[OOC: I never wrote I was now bargaining for exclusive rights. Just an apology, a slight refund (slight, paltry, £2, you know, as an acknowledgement of a misunderstanding, which you would get back), and the return of the shipyard, and we're good. As for co-operation, it's a two-way road, and you don't start the process by antagonising the other party. If you had simply politely had written, "I was not granting exclusive foreign production rights, nor was that my intention," and had tried to smooth over the confusion, I'd not have behaved in such a childish fashion. But once you take property belonging to a foreign company that had been rightfully acquired, you cannot presume that that nation will not respond and sometimes by force.]

IC:

HM Government has no interest in possessing exclusive rights to the weapons systems we had thought the Royal Shipyards had acquired. HM Government is interested in the return of that firm's property and the restoration of the rights it had legally acquired. Since we do not feel the government of North East Somerset would be forthcoming in responding to our just requests with anything but insults and vitriol, we have decided to respond with overwhelming force.

If, however, we receive word that there will be a change in these circumstances, His Majesty will reverse this course of action immediately.

Sincerely,

The Rt. Hon. Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development

The Rt. Hon. Sir Horace Laederbeck, KT, MP, CS, PC
Minister of Defence
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 21:54
The Incorporated Sarzonian government condemns the actions undertaken by North East Somerset and we declare them to be in breach of contract. As a result, we declare our agreements with North East Somerset null and void and any monies due to be received by North East Somerset shall not be forthcoming.

We call upon our Isselmere-Nielander brethren to seek out a diplomatic solution to this pending crisis and we ask that any Sarzonian assets currently in North East Somerset remain unaffected. However, we believe the impetuous nature of the actions undertaken by North East Somerset require a response that is in line with the magnitude of the violations.

As a result, we are announcing that any Sarzonian citizens, embassy, consular, or other diplomatic or military personnel in North East Somerset or her territories shall be instructed to return to Sarzonia within 72 hours. We are also instructing North East Somerset's personnel to leave Sarzonian territory within 72 hours or they shall face detainment. In addition, any goods or services imported from North East Somerset shall receive a punitive tariff of not less than five times our standard tariff rates for countries that do not currently have a free trade agreement with the Incorporated States of Sarzonia.

In addition, we are announcing that North East Somerset shall henceforth be prohibited from making purchases at the Portland Iron Works, the Avalon Aerospace Corporation, or the Incorporated Defence Company until such time as their government can show more respect for contract law. The government of North East Somerset could have averted this pending crisis by showing some respect for contract law and by not choosing to behave in a manner unbecoming a national government or a major defence corporation. They can avert further damage to their reputation or to their material properties by choosing the path of negotiation. We call upon them to undertake this route.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
To: Mike Sarzo, President, Incorporated States of Sarzonia
From: Henry V, King of the Isselmere-Nielanders, etc., UKIN
Subject: Our Apologies

Dear Cousin,

We have long cherished Our relationship with Our beloved siblings in Sarzonia and thank them for the kindness and generosity in particular you have shown Our United Kingdom over the years.

It is true, We have behaved rashly in this instance. But we had felt Ourselves provoked by the harsh language and the somewhat duplicitous manner in which this auction was held. We shall, of course, in no way hinder or harm Sarzonian lives or property and shall show both the utmost respect that they deserve.

We apologise for acting in this brutal manner and wish that you and Our Sarzonian siblings will forgive Us some day.

Sincerely yours,

[Signed]
Henry V
HM the King
UKIN
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 22:18
At this point we can offer Sarzonia and Isselmere 4 options:

1) Accept the fact that I have the rights to sell weaponry to other people as well as you, and that you do not have exclusive rights. Therefore keeping the shipyards and weaponry systems rights, and accepting the paying the money you confirmed earlier.

2) Receive refunds of $200 billion each (you payed a total of $188 billion each) and give up rights to the military weaponry systems and ownership of the shipyards. We will then re-sell them to other nations.

3) Invade North East Somerset over a minor trading agreement involving small sums of money and kill millions.

4) Propose and then negiotiate another deal with us.

Sarzonia and Isselmere may choose different options if you so wish.

Praetonia has fully accepted and confirmed their purchase of a shipyard, and Wallis and Futuna have confirmed their purchases of weaponry systems and warship designs.

Terence Proctor, Prime Minister of North East Somerset
Sarzonia
22-04-2005, 22:37
We propose a different deal:

1) North East Somerset shall agree to the exclusive sale of production rights for the designs to the Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland and the Portland Iron Works of the Incorporated States of Sarzonia;
2) The nation of North East Somerset shall apologise to both the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland and the Incorporated States of Sarzonia for her arrogant handling of this affair and pay a fine of $12 billion to both countries as a statement of good faith;
3) That the United Kingdom of Isselmere accept said apology and apologise for its rash response and return its sum of $6 billion as a statement of good faith;
4) That the nation of North East Somerset also allow the purchase of land by both the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland and the Incorporated States of Sarzonia to allow for the expansion of the shipyards to the same size as the shipyard sold to the Democratic Imperium of Praetonia.

Failing an agreement on the proposed, we would renounce our prior agreement to purchase the shipyard and weapons systems and accept the $100 billion refund; however, North East Somerset would remain blacklisted by Sarzonian companies and the increased tariffs would remain in effect. However, we would rescind our requirement for North East Somerset to recall its citizens and diplomatic or military personnel from Sarzonian territory.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 22:40
At this point we can offer Sarzonia and Isselmere 4 options:

1) Accept the fact that I have the rights to sell weaponry to other people as well as you, and that you do not have exclusive rights. Therefore keeping the shipyards and weaponry systems rights, and accepting the paying the money you confirmed earlier.

2) Receive refunds of $200 billion each (you payed a total of $188 billion each) and give up rights to the military weaponry systems and ownership of the shipyards. We will then re-sell them to other nations.

3) Invade North East Somerset over a minor trading agreement involving small sums of money and kill millions.

4) Propose and then negiotiate another deal with us.

Sarzonia and Isselmere may choose different options if you so wish.

Praetonia has fully accepted and confirmed their purchase of a shipyard, and Wallis and Futuna have confirmed their purchases of weaponry systems and warship designs.

Terence Proctor, Prime Minister of North East Somerset
[OOC: First, Sarzonia is not engaged in my military action, but in diplomacy. He does not approve of my wayward action. Second, you have once again failed to respond to any of the options I have given. Third, it is for you to propose a deal that you have broken not only with me but with several nations, and almost two hundred billion dollars is scarcely a small sum. I have written what I expect. An apology and restoration of the acquired rights (non-exclusive production rights to the weapons systems and the title to the Inglis shipyards) and I shall be satisfied.]
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 22:58
To: Isselmere
From: Prime Minister Terence Proctor, North East Somerset

I apologise on behalf of NESN authorities for the way in which this affair was handled. We were rather offensive and could have been more polite in the way that we explained to you that you did not have exclusive rights. We accept Isselmere's proposal to continue all the deals. We officially apologise to them and we will continue the shipyard deals and non-exclusive rights to the weapons systems. You paid $188 billion for this, and we believe that as you were unaware that you did not get exclusive rights we will reduce the cost to $150 billion! This means you have will continue the shipyard deals and non-exclusive rights to the weapons systems. You have successfully negiotiated getting the shipyard and weaponry systems at a cheaper price, and avoided war. Many thanks, Terence.


To: Sarzonia
From: Prime Minister Terence Proctor, North East Somerset

We cannot possibly accept your terms. We will offer you $200 billion re-embursement and take away the shipyard and weaponry systems rights or you can accept a deal identical to that of Isselmere's one. Many thanks, Terence.
Sarzonia
22-04-2005, 23:14
We can not accept that arrangement, especially as we believe we were deceived by the government of North East Somerset. At this point, we would like to make another counter offer and withdraw any claims to weapons systems production rights and we would pay a total of $100 billion for the shipyards and enough land to allow us to expand them to the size of Praetonia's current shipyards.

In addition, our government is insulted that you have chosen to paint us as an aggressive military power when we have acted with the intent of resolving differences peaceably and have made no aggressive military moves. We will ask our allies and our trading partners to be wary about conducting any deals with the nation of North East Somerset in the future.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Isselmere
22-04-2005, 23:16
To: Isselmere
From: Prime Minister Terence Proctor, North East Somerset

I apologise on behalf of NESN authorities for the way in which this affair was handled. We were rather offensive and could have been more polite in the way that we explained to you that you did not have exclusive rights. We accept Isselmere's proposal to continue all the deals. We officially apologise to them and we will continue the shipyard deals and non-exclusive rights to the weapons systems. You paid $188 billion for this, and we believe that as you were unaware that you did not get exclusive rights we will reduce the cost to $150 billion! This means you have will continue the shipyard deals and non-exclusive rights to the weapons systems. You have successfully negiotiated getting the shipyard and weaponry systems at a cheaper price, and avoided war. Many thanks, Terence.
[OOC: OK, I'm good. You will receive $182 billion and Sarzonia $6 billion should he agree to accept a similar deal. If he doesn't accept, you will receive $150 billion and Sarzonia $38 billion. Either way, war's off, I'm happy, I'm very sorry about unforunate diplomatic incident.]
Praetonia
22-04-2005, 23:18
[OOC: Some suggestions:

1) As NES stated, there are businesses around the shipyards... he cna hardly just throw them out so some foreign nation can expand their own interests in the nation. It wouldnt go down well and would harm his economy.

2) It was fairly assumed that the prod rights would be exclusive, so deception, either deliberate or no is probably the case here.

3) Paying less for the yards and getting extra land seems a bit much. Why not just pay less for the shipyards and call it a deal?]
North East Somerset
22-04-2005, 23:21
To: Sarzonia
From: Prime Minister Terence Proctor, North East Somerset

We apologise for not distinguishing between your wise diplomatic tactics and Isselmeres aggressive tactics. We hope you are not insulted and we apologise.

As we have said previously there are privately owned industrial areas outside the 5km2 of your shipyards so we cannot give you more land. Instead we offer the shipyard itself to you at $100 billion as they stand.

(OOC: If you actually look back at what happenned it seems ridiculous how there was nearly a war and that I have actually done nothing wrong other than being slightly unpolite)
North East Somerset
23-04-2005, 19:12
Can you please confirm this Sarzonia
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 18:35
To: Sarzonia and Isselmere:
From: Harold Durrel, Newly elected Prime Minister.

The NES government has recently found itself involved in a number of naval wars including Feline Catfish and a change of gov't from our Socialist Party to the Conservative Party has meant that policies have changed. We have decided we need to buy back two of our docks and revamp them. Since Praetonia is happy with its purchase and has agreed to all the terms they can stay. Sarzonia and Isselmere have never really been satisfied with anything after the disagreements we have had. We have now decided instead of trying to labouriusly find an agreement we shall simply buy the shipyards back. We have now decided to pay you a massive $200 billion each for the shipyards. Please confirm this or else we will just send you the money and re-nationalise it. Sorry for the inconvenience but we believe this is the best solution.
Sarzonia
25-04-2005, 18:46
Before I announce my government's decision regarding the acceptance of the money, allow me to express my extreme displeasure with the way your government has handled the auction and the subsequent negotiations for the shipyards for the Royal Shipyards of Isselmere-Nieland and the Portland Iron Works. We believe that your government has negotiated in bad faith and showed no inclination to resolve matters until they were threatened with military action.

Our previous announcements regarding the economic consequences of your action stand in addition to our expectation that the $200 billion be paid in full immediately. We will also make known your attempt to slander our government's reputation by painting us as militant aggressors when we have endeavoured to obtain a peaceful, good faith settlement of our dispute with you.

Finally, your government is hardly the innocent victim in a case of unfortunate escalation of tensions between you and the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland. You have provoked our respective governments into the actions we have taken by your obstinate insistence that exclusive production rights were not forthcoming and by not clearly indicating that such was the case in your initial communications regarding the shipyards and weapons systems.

We have secured the removal of all Sarzonians from North East Somerset and we have received word that your citizens have all left within the 72 hour grace period. Let it be known that we will view any future relations with your country with a strongly unfavourable prejudice.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
North East Somerset
25-04-2005, 18:53
To: Sarzonia
From: Harold Durrel, Prime Minister

I am also appalled at the way the selling of the shipyards were made. I must apologise for the way it was done, and this crisis in itself is one of the reasons I was elected. We were unclear, aggressive and we kept changing our mind over issues. If I were you I would have been (like you) very disappointed in NES. We hope that we can gradually repair the relationships between our countries and that this sort of crisis will never happen again. I must also mention that it was not entirely our fault and their was somewhat of an over reaction from Isselmere. We offer you a very fair sum of $200 billion, meaning of course you will profit heavily over the shipyards. We hope you accept our offer.
Isselmere
25-04-2005, 21:04
To: Harold Durrell, Prime Minister, North East Somerset
From: Sir George Fredericks, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development, UKIN
Subject: Shipyards and other matters

Dear Mr Durrell,

His Isselmerian and Nielander Majesty's Government is both astonished and appalled that this dreadful situation involving the shipyards has once more raised its ugly head. HM Government had believed this problem between our two nations had been resolved but it appears that once again the North East Somerset government seeks to spawn ill-will between our nations.

I must stress how appalled HM Government is by this perpetual vacillating by the NES government and how this has and will continue to sour relations between our two nations. In the interest of peace, HM Government will accept the $200,000 million. This will, however, be the last business our two nations shall ever conduct. The repugnant lack of good faith, of proper diplomatic behaviour, the wavering, the threats and other instances of arrogant posturing by your nation's former government has permanently poisoned relations between our lands.

Sincerely,

The Rt Hon Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC, RC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN
Sarzonia
26-04-2005, 14:24
In the interest of putting this disasterous matter behind us, the Incorporated Sarzonian Government will accept the $200 billion from North East Somerset; however, we will then announce that this will end any relations between our two countries.
Kaledan
26-04-2005, 14:41
In the name of Allah, the merciful, the compassionate,

The Sultan of Kaledan asks that this shipbuilding hardware be donated to our struggling state, as it will ensure our security in a hostile world, provide our struggling economy with much needed jobs, and greatly increase Kaledan's view of the rest of the world. Our primary use of these facilities will be to produce commercial ships to increase trade and to sell to other nations. Of course, we would provide the labour for the removal, remove as much as possible with our own ships, and pay for the remaning shipping fees.
The Sultan patiently awaits your response.

Your Humble Servant,

Vizier Arash Saemi
North East Somerset
26-04-2005, 18:39
To: Sarzonia and Isselmere:
From: Harold Durrel, Prime Minister.

We thank you for confirming this and once again apologise for the awful way in which the whole affair was handled. I understand that you could not trust us again for a while, but I hope eventually our links can be repaired and economic ties continue again in the future. For the moment I must thank you for taking it so well and putting up with the way we have dealt with things, we will try to be clearer in the future. $200 billion and a full apology letter has been sent to Isselemere and to Sarzonia.

Praetonia is happy with the business deal and we have installed a 1000m x 200m lock in its 20km2 Brookes shipyards. We have nationalised our two remaining shipyards and are installing 500m x 100m locks in our 5km2 Abel and Inglis shipyards.
North East Somerset
26-04-2005, 18:40
In the name of Allah, the merciful, the compassionate,

The Sultan of Kaledan asks that this shipbuilding hardware be donated to our struggling state, as it will ensure our security in a hostile world, provide our struggling economy with much needed jobs, and greatly increase Kaledan's view of the rest of the world. Our primary use of these facilities will be to produce commercial ships to increase trade and to sell to other nations. Of course, we would provide the labour for the removal, remove as much as possible with our own ships, and pay for the remaning shipping fees.
The Sultan patiently awaits your response.

Your Humble Servant,

Vizier Arash Saemi

Sorry but no.

NESN authorities
North East Somerset
27-04-2005, 18:58
PUBLIC STATEMENT
Mr Lawrence Strachan, Newly elected Prime Minister

After completing one shipyard to the 500m x 100m lock standard we have decided to sell it to Dumpsterdam (who have tg us with offers) for $150 billion if they accept. The other shipyard we are using ourselves and it will have a 500m x 100m lock.

PUBLIC STATEMENT
NES authorities

We have had a problem with political stability in NES recently and this has led us to continual changes in policy for the shipyard sales. However this is no longer a problem as the Conservative-Liberal coalition under Mr Strachan has over 50% of the votes.
Dumpsterdam
27-04-2005, 21:43
The Royal Tallarnian Dockyards would like to confirm the purchase of the shipyard at 150 billion USD.

After completing this purchase we will take the yard into service directly, for the production of escorts and auxilleries.

Dinius Hampthon,
Director RTD.
North East Somerset
28-04-2005, 18:09
UPDATE:

Praetonia / Imperial Praetonian Shipyards owns (1000m x 200m / 20km2) the Brookes Shipyard

Dumpsterdam / Royal Tallarnian Dockyards owns (500m x 100m / 5km2) the Abel Shipyard

Saxon Shipyards PLC owns (210m x 30m/ 5km2) the Inglis shipyard

NESN authorities
North East Somerset
28-04-2005, 19:00
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