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Heart Attack and death of the Sick Man of Europe by Dr. James Maxwell

Ottoman Khaif
02-04-2005, 23:21
As the Eastern Question going to be answer? Or is it not going to be answer? Would the Ottoman Empire last another century or fall within the next few years?These questions are going to be answer in this essay on the Ottomans by the same auther who wrote an overveiw of the Ottoman Empire.

The recent Ottoman Civil war, as show how weak the old man is really is inside. Yet to the outside world, he had hid his problems to make it look like everything was fine, he prevented the outside world from finding out. That father time had finally caught up with the sick man of Europe. This civil war as start the chain reaction for the death of the Ottoman Empire, I belive the Ottoman Empire as 25 years left of life, before the empire complete disolve away for good. This fall of the Ottoman Empire could be compare to the fall of USSR, but ten times more bloody and more butral. The only thing that could have save the Ottoman Empire from dead, is a Iron will ruler. Who been the one to reform the empire, so that it would as another 100 years….

The Ottoman Empire as outlived most of her foes, like the Austria-Hungary Empire or the Russian Empire by sheer luck or sheer will to keep going on. Who know truly why this Empire is still going….it should have been dead 75 years old ago. Yet they are still here and strong in body and mind. How did the sick man of Europe make it to the 21st century alive and well? That’s question everyone asked when studying the history of the Ottomans. A history of long periods of decline and major defeats in the battlefield. But something or someone realize the empire was going to die if changes weren’t made … so with that thought the Ottomans began a series of massive reforms to the government, sociality, and other matter. The periods of reforms began in 1830 and ended in 1930, this era was know as the reformist era, during this time the Ottomans had reform their weak arm forces and reform them into a elite fighting force. Which the Ottomans began to use to kick the western powers out of all North Africa, also the Ottomans began wars of to retake their long lost Balkans lands, they enter many wars against the Austrians and Russians, most of these war ended in stalemates, yet the Ottomans manger to take land from the Austrians and slowly kill off the Austrian Empire by March 10, 1918, the Ottomans march into Vienna and had declare the Austrian Empire is no long alive..The sick man had killed its main foe the Austrian over the passage of time. What this show us all…that the sick man still has the will for keep fighting on. Yet how long can the sick keep this will or zeal to live?

There is saying, “Nothing is forever and nothing will be forever.” with that being said. Ottoman Empire will sooner or later fall within itself in sometime in the future this will happen. Who truly knows when the empire will fall to its dead? One thing we will about the Ottomans, nationalism will not play a key factor in the fall of the Ottoman Empire, do to the fact the Ottomans have process of denationalize of all her citizens and from a unity between all citizens of any race. They all think and act like Ottomans. Do to the years of denationalize. The key factor that would spell end to the empire is the many schools of thought that exist in the empire…each of them are rival to each other. Each one has a different way of doing and handling the affairs of the empire and when these schools come in conflict over how to run the empire. This conflict led to civil wars, during the Reformist Era their were about two major civil war one in 1876 to 1880 and another one in 1900 to 1902. These civil wars took a lot out of Ottomans. These civil wars in a way were sign instability in the Ottoman Empire, these schools of thought always have tensions between them, these tensions over time build up to the point of civil war, then an cooling period happens where tensions disappear for a period of time. Could the Ottomans purge itself of these many schools of thought?..No they can’t remove them, they are too deeply rooted in the framework of the empire, to try to remove them is impossible, and they would just grow back like weeds. Yet this recent civil war was just the tip of ice berg…another civil war will soon arise in the near future…it is my believe that Ottoman Empire can’t have another civil war…another civil war would led to the compete death of the Ottomans as we know it… only time will tell if the Ottomans could last another 25 or 100 years…time will tell all…would the Ottomans transform into something new or just be another footnote of long dead empire? Time will tell us the faith of the Ottomans.
Ottoman Khaif
02-04-2005, 23:54
This is open to comments.....
Napoleonic Empire
03-04-2005, 00:57
Minister Stanton Dowd had a good look at this essay that was dossiered and put through the wire in Paris. It interested him greatly how such an essay would be leaked out of the oft times isolated Ottoman Empire. Certainly, this would pander to their plans.

He sent a small communique to Mr. Maxwell immediately.

To Monsieur Maxwell,

I have got light of this essay. Being a political analyst and theorist myself, I take it with a grain of salt, and wish I had more crtiicism at this time. While I am sure perhaps much of this information is analytics or census information, I would care to see any non-classified sources to verify some of the claims, and perhaps make a fuiller rebuttal or responsive essay on French-Ottoman relations.

For state and truth,
Stanton Dowd
As Stanton signed the short letter he put it through the wire, hoping he would get a reply punctually. In the meantime, he took a closer look to the essay, analyzing it for useful, 'tidbits.'
Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 03:46
Minister Stanton Dowd had a good look at this essay that was dossiered and put through the wire in Paris. It interested him greatly how such an essay would be leaked out of the oft times isolated Ottoman Empire. Certainly, this would pander to their plans.

He sent a small communique to Mr. Maxwell immediately.


As Stanton signed the short letter he put it through the wire, hoping he would get a reply punctually. In the meantime, he took a closer look to the essay, analyzing it for useful, 'tidbits.'
To: Minister Stanton Dowd
From: Dr. James Maxwell

Dear Sir,
I sorry to tell you the following on your request to see my "sources". All my sources are here by classified by the Ottoman Centeral Archives Dept. I am not allow to send any of sources at the moment. I sorry for being a help to your works.

yours
Dr. James Maxwell
Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 05:48
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Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 18:58
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Chronosia
03-04-2005, 19:01
OOC: Thought Scotland was the Sick Man of Europe?
Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 19:23
OOC: Thought Scotland was the Sick Man of Europe?
OOC: I don't think so... back in the 1800s and early 1900s, the Ottomans were alway know as the Sick Man of Europe.
Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 19:56
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Ottoman Khaif
03-04-2005, 22:23
bump for veiws