NationStates Jolt Archive


Mobilization of Internal Security Forces

Whittier-
02-04-2005, 10:25
The Whittier Interior Ministry after Emergency consultation with the Secretary General, the Politburo, the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Intelligence has begun mobilizing 30 million internal security agents. IS agents are attending emergency meetings around the nation. Some intelligence agents stationed around the world, in certain unnamed nations, are being recalled.
Further all borders are being closed by armed troops.
All flights in and around Whittier have grounded till further notice. No ships are being allowed into port. And all nuclear forces have been placed on DEFCON 3.
All foreign ambassadors are asked to stay either in their homes or in their embassies until the crises has ended. This is for their own safety.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 10:29
The National Emergency Ministry and the Ministry of Health and Sanitation have just recieved word to prepare for a national emergency.
Medical supplies are being sought.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 11:11
National Police and Internal Security Agents are now sweeping the nation rounding up all athiests. Athiests are charged with being involved in an evil plot to destroy the nation. Other groups and individuals being seized are described as having liberal bents.
Over 1 million are being rounded up at gun point and taken special detention centers. They are being charged with Treason. This is the second incidence of treason against the nation since the last athiest conspiracy that caused great disaster that resulted in the deaths of billions in this nation.
Officials state that all who are being charged will recieve the death penalty. In accordance with an emergency law that was passed by the Politburo and condoned by emergency sessions of the various People's legislatures, Athiesm and liberalism have been banned.
Both the recent conspiracy and the past conspiracy are rooted in the athiests violent hatred of Christians and their desire to kill as many christians as possible. The liberals are being rounded up on seperate charges of spying for foreign governments. The penalty for spying is death.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 11:14
Internal Security Agents and the national police in Los Angeles have been joined by over 5,000 National Intelligence Agents. They are searching for an atomic bomb that was placed in the city by the athiests. Los Angeles has Whittier's highest concentration of christians. It is believed that they got the device from the liberals who got it from a hostile foriegn regime.
There is a sense of national urgency as the government searches for the bomb. All atheists and liberals who have siezed are being tortured and interrogated so the government can get to and disable the bomb before it goes off.
DontPissUsOff
02-04-2005, 11:25
OOC: Great idea! Obliterating a quarter of your population is going to do wonders for your economy!

IC: "We condemn this, blah, blah, whatever. We've been wiping out fundamentalistic Christians, Muslims and whatnot, so we can't talk. Just don't come running when you've killed half your workforce and your economy dies on you."
Andrehervia
02-04-2005, 11:37
"I look forward to seeing that nation drown in a sea of stagnant hyper-conservatism and fundamentalism."
-Premier Donald Witzenberg, on his way to a meeting with the Central Committee, briefly commenting on the situation in Whittier.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 12:02
OOC: Great idea! Obliterating a quarter of your population is going to do wonders for your economy!

IC: "We condemn this, blah, blah, whatever. We've been wiping out fundamentalistic Christians, Muslims and whatnot, so we can't talk. Just don't come running when you've killed half your workforce and your economy dies on you."
ooc: actually my economy is doing pretty good these days. Besides as the last Pres. election showed, there social issues that take precedence over economic issues.
Independent Hitmen
02-04-2005, 13:05
President Anderson is watching the unfolding events in Whittier closely.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 21:42
Today, the Whittier government has begun executed athiest and liberal men and women. The children are being taken to reeducation centers to be unbrainwashed. Those children that fail to be reeducated will be publicly executed as an example to others.
As of this announcement only 12,000 have been executed by gassing. Over the next 36 months we will be eliminiting upwards 15 million atheists and 234 million liberals.
As the accused have been stripped of their citizenship they have no rights to a trial. Such a right being reserved for citizens of the Union of People's Republics.
The criminals and the spies are being taken directly to the gas ovens which have built for expressly this purpose.
Meantime, the bomb search continues in Los Angeles. The nation suspected of supplying the spies and the athiests with the atom bomb has been telegrammed a demand for the exact location of the bomb. If the information is not forthcoming and the bomb goes off, a massive nuclear strike will be launched against that nation.
All Whittier nuclear forces are now on DEFCON 2.
Theao
02-04-2005, 21:50
We wish to know the crimes that the Atheists and Liberal-bent victems of your witch hunt are being accused of. Actual crimes, not some vague claims of a 'conspiracy to destroy the nation'.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:00
We wish to know the crimes that the Atheists and Liberal-bent victems of your witch hunt are being accused of. Actual crimes, not some vague claims of a 'conspiracy to destroy the nation'.
They are charged with espionage, conspiracy to destroy the nation, conspiracy to compromise the national security of the Union of People's Republics, conspiracy to commit treason, conspiracy to aid enemies of the Union of People's Republics. They are further charged with conspiracy to committ genocide and attempting incite religious conflict. They also charged with illegal possession of banned weapons, namely the possession of an atom bomb by a private citizen.
Theao
02-04-2005, 22:02
Is there any proof of these crimes or has one of the rulers, fallen off his rocker?
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:09
Is there any proof of these crimes or has one of the rulers, fallen off his rocker?
A couple of consciencious informants from within the groups came foward to inform the government of the plots. Due to the urgency of the situation of the advanceness of the plots we are forced to take immediate and dire actions. Regretfully we do not have the time to investigate each individual. Several of the bits of information that we were given by the informants have born out.
The informants, themselves athiests, have been flown out of the nation. As a reward for their cooperation they are being allowed to live.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:11
Millions of athiests and liberals continue to be tortured as the government continues its effort to locate the atom bomb that was planted in Los Angeles. Those who refuse to disclose the location of the bomb are being executed in front of the others.
Theao
02-04-2005, 22:14
By killing all the athiest in your nation, you are guilty of some of the same crimes you accused them of, namely genocide and attempting to incite religious conflict. Also what is the point of arming your nuclear arsenal in an internal matter?
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:17
By killing all the athiest in your nation, you are guilty of some of the same crimes you accused them of, namely genocide and attempting to incite religious conflict. Also what is the point of arming your nuclear arsenal in an internal matter?
If they would tell us the location of the atom bomb and who the leaders of the conspiracy are, we would not be having to kill them.
As for the arming of our nuclear arsenal it is being prepared for launch against foreign enemies of the Union of People's Republics. Particularly the nation that we know has been aiding and abetting the conspirators. We have already notified them by telegram that if the bomb goes off in LA we will launch a massive nuclear strike on their nation.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:22
We regret to report that a school bus full of christian children has been hijacked by athiest outlaws who are threatening to kill the children. National Police and the Army are being dispatched to the scene at an intersection in Phoenix.
We will try to spare the lives of the children but the hostage takers must die.
Theao
02-04-2005, 22:22
Those who are not directly part of this so-called conspiracy would have no clue as to the leaders, also if they were divided into a cell system, they would also have no idea. This phantom nation, which you could have pull from a hat, just because they may have sold it to the 'conspirators' does not mean they are involved.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:24
We have attempted to reeducate the athiests and the liberals. But their attempts massacre preborn children, defenseless disabled people and destroy the nation leaves us no choice but to terminate them. To make room for real Whittierites.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:25
Sattelites are being positioned over the nation of Magna Cartum. Space based nuclear missiles are also being relocated over that nation.
Theao
02-04-2005, 22:29
If you attempt to force someone who believes differently than you to your beliefs of course you'll have problems. How would you react if buddists for example came and began converting you by the sword. Also you can not massacre preborn childern, as if they are preborn they are not childern, they are fetus, and if they are children they can not be preborn.
Northern Congo
02-04-2005, 22:34
Millions of athiests and liberals continue to be tortured as the government continues its effort to locate the atom bomb that was planted in Los Angeles. Those who refuse to disclose the location of the bomb are being executed in front of the others.

Northern Congolese Foregin Minister, Mr. "T," condems this killing and pities the fool who leads the nation of Whittier. "There's gonna be a lot of pain," T replied when asked to give his assesment of the situation.
Northern Congo
02-04-2005, 22:37
Also what is the point of arming your nuclear arsenal in an internal matter?

When asked to comment on this, Defense Minister Ackbar replied, "It's a trap!"
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 22:40
If you attempt to force someone who believes differently than you to your beliefs of course you'll have problems. How would you react if buddists for example came and began converting you by the sword. Also you can not massacre preborn childern, as if they are preborn they are not childern, they are fetus, and if they are children they can not be preborn.
Abortion is illegal in Whittier. It was settled after we fought a long and protracted civil war over it a few decades back.
Also we have a high degree of religious freedom. Our government is seperate from the various churches and other religious organizations in our nation, whome we allow the freedom to believe and practice what they believe any where in the nation they have the inkling to, as long as its not a secure military base or government building. The athiests have been trying to take away this freedom, which the socialist party of whittier grants to all UPR citizens. In recent months they have blown up churches, firebombed christian homes. Abducted christian children. At one point, last month, in Sacramento, a group of evil athiests abducted several pregnant teens outside a high school in that city and forced abortions on them at gun point.
The government of Whittier has no problem with people choosing to believe or disbelieve in God. But murder is illegal regardless. To save the innocent we are left with no choice but to kill the guilty.
If the victims were jews, muslims, or buddhists we would be doing the same thing. The actions we take, are being undertaken to safeguard the lives and the rights of Whittier citizens.
The problem is that the athiests have centers of hate. These centers and their leaders are similar to the Muslim "nonprofits" and radical imams of the late 20th century who taught hate of any who weren't muslim and actively promoted the deaths of nonmuslims.
If we don't act today, and we allow them to kill off the christians, it is clear they will go after the jews or the buddhists next. We have evidence that groups like the Center for an Athiest Whittier are being funded by evil foreign governments. We have one such nation targeted already. We will know who the others are when they mobilize their armies to help the conspirators impose an all athiest government complete with a total ban on all religion upon our soverign peoples.
Whittier-
02-04-2005, 23:05
The hostage crises has been resolved. We regret to report that we had no choice but to bomb the bus when the athiests began firing on their hostages. The bus was destroyed and everyone inside was killed.
Red Tide2
02-04-2005, 23:20
Official Statement From the Red Tide Goverment.
"We may be a rather right-wing goverment, but we condemn the way Whittier is doing this. If your going to kill the athiests you dont need a excuse! Nevertheless one that you implemented... those 'informants' you claim to have provided information are farces. The atom bomb is one of your own, I doubt you would detonate it anyways as it would kill off a quarter of your workforce, not very good for your economy. And those 'athiests' who 'hijacked' those buses were SO obviously your own agents. In short, if your going to kill the athiests, just do it."
End Statement
Theao
03-04-2005, 00:12
As there is valid evidence for most of the prosecution, we will accept your actions, but we don't condone it.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 00:17
As there is valid evidence for most of the prosecution, we will accept your actions, but we don't condone it.
We respect your moral position on the issue.
It is our hope that we can get to the bomb in time, so we can end the "prosecution".
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 04:27
The atom bomb that was hidden in Los Angeles has been found. It was found when one of the conspirators faced with torture and painful death confessed and lead authorities to the bomb which had been activated. Fortunately the counter Terrorism Ministry was able to shut down the timer and defuse the device.
The conspirator also very willingly gave up lots of names and pointed authorities to a location in Denver with over 25 thousand names on a list. A list of co conspirators. Those not on the list are being processed and released from the detention centers. We are however still looking for the leader of the conspiracy: Allen Young. According to those who caved in to the torture it is believed that he has already fled abroad. We do have this photo of him:
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We request the cooperation of the international community in apprehending this head terrorist.

We regret that over 12 million athiests and liberals had to be exterminated before we were able to convince the athiest terrorists that the government meant business. May we never have to do this again. But let this be a lesson to all future terrorist groups plotting against the Union of People's Republics. We will do what ever it takes to hunt you down and root you out.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 04:29
To avoid future incidents and future athiest conspiracies, all athiests and all liberals are being assigned government mentors. They will not be given back their citizenship so they are now people incongito (people without a homeland).
The Phoenix Milita
03-04-2005, 09:34
"I have just been informed of the of the murder of 12 million people by the government of Whitter. They even admit that most of those that they murdered, in cold blood were not involved with this conspiracy, and terrorisim.
We can not condone terrorism and the guilty parties should be punished, but to kill so many innocents on the lone fact they were atheists, no matter how scared your government was, is outright evil.
Do not think for one second that this mass murder has gone unnoticed by anyone.
You can not simply.. exterminate an entire group of people based on the acts of a few terrorists.
The Phoenix Milita is shocked and outraged.. and I will see to it that a full economic embargo against Whittier is implemented for at least 50 years. We urge the international community to cut ties to Whitter and join in the embargo and let the irrational government of Whitter squirm while they are isolated from the rest of the world. It will only be matter of time before this comes back to bite them in the ass. Whitter should have taken a cue from other nations and deported the undesireables... rather than commit these crimes against humanity."

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Field Marshall Maximus Seville II

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OOC: In the past we have traded petroleum products and livestock (Unleaded Gasoline, Sheep, Hogs, Ostrich and Cattle) with Whitter- directly.... and I would assume behind the scenes trade with non-government affilated companies would have gone on since the governments had been open in the past. We have also sold you weapons IIRC
Isselmere
03-04-2005, 09:38
The following is entirely IC:

It is amazing what a glorious farce of poses as proper government in Whittier. What is more appalling is what passes for Christianity or any sort of spirituality in that nation. Has humanity not left the caves behind? Obviously not all of us have learned civilised behaviour and still need to be told how to bathe and clean off the filth and the sin of ignorance. And yet it is no surprise what decrepit perversion presents itself as morality within Whittier.

For shame.

Theodore Perkins, DPhil, Daurmont University, Isselmere, UKIN
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 09:41
At the Situation Room of the Shrine of the Altogether, Emperor Maximus IV watched with shock and dismay the newscasts of the hostage situation, the roundups, the bus attack and the 12 million citizens killed in Whittier-, and immediately contacted Moral Alliance Chairman Archbishop Veracos on telephone

Maximus IV: Have you been watching the news?
Veracos: I'm waiting for word from Basque Sp--
Maximus IV: No, the persecutions in Whittier-?
Veracos: I've heard a few things about godless hijackers holding a bus and firing upon government agents, and they bombed the bus and then killed 12 million liberals to find a nuke in the Whittish (?) city of Denver. I thought it was a joke.
Maximus IV: So you have. I must ask you, do you see anything suspicious about it? No need to debate the morbid overkill, but it doesn't add up!
Veracos: Must say I'm confused. You're telling me in the course of finding this nuclear bomb, they managed to kill 12 million atheist liberals in a period short enough so that they can find a nuclear weapon before it was used? Must say you're right. That doesn't add up at all!
Maximus IV: I'm afraid there's more to it. I have the broadcast of the bus situation recorded. Something else isn't right here. I see in a close-up (Presses pause on remote, presses zoom button and squints, leaning toward plasma screen) something resembling the same insigna I'd see on the the Whitter- agents. Could be my eyes, I don't know, but there's something I want you, (Foreign Affairs Minister) Ambicus and (Sidestreamer Intelligence Ministry Minister) Wenderfel to view.
Veracos: This should be interesting...
Maximus IV: Interesting? The appropriate word for this is Evil. Absolutely, evil. Antihuman. Satanic. Barbaric! Interesting? No! It's not Interesting! (inhales) Anyway, 5 o'clock, after service. Others are already calling for embargoes. I think we should get involved too.
Veracos: Ok ok ok! I'll see you then.
Maximus IV: ... (hangs up)

OOC: Edit... haven't read the entire thread here...
(An hour later, the phone rings again.)
Maximus IV: (Maximus IV's Church Pastor) Father Paul! Have you hear--
Paul: Mother of God... I have (sniffs)
Maximus IV: I know, it's horrible--
Paul: Evil... just... evil. This is not what our church stands for! Our Father warned us of these people, and they are there, in Whittier-, as we speak! We need your help, Max. Let the people know we do not stand for this. The Whittier- holocaust is the work of Satan himself. They are false in their worship and--
Maximus IV: Father, you're preaching to your choir here, I already know. And don't worry, all of Sidestreamer knows, and in short order, the genocidal tyrants of Whittier- will certainly know who we are!
Paul: Bless you Max.
Maximus IV: I'll be at the service in an hour.
Paul: I know I get worked up over these matters, it just--
Maximus IV: Yes Paul I understand. I need to get ready. Godspeed.
Paul: See you in an hour. ([i]Maximus IV hangs up[/b])
Dumpsterdam
03-04-2005, 09:59
An all-out embargo will be placed upon Whittier at once, banning all trade with said nation, allowing their ships in territorial waters to be seized, their citizens to be arrested and jailed and all holdings in the Empire to be frozen for use in the mobilisation.

That and where cutting you off of our massive oil supplies...

Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 10:18
Maximus IV, in a impromptu press statement outside the Shrine of the Altogether

I am going to announce right now that the genocidal actions of the government of Whittier- are not supported by the Christians of Sidestreamer, nor the rest of the world, I believe, and I am appaled at the massive murder committed by this rogue nation upon its own citizenry.

We are a Christian nation and our Empire is undoubtably Catholic, but as Jesus displayed his compassion for the sick and the poor, we shall for the oppressed of Whittier-. All citizens shall automatically be granted citizenship to Sidestreamer if they claim refugee status.

We will also be willing to cooperate with any other nation in an effort to evacuate the persecuted atheists from this rogue, dark nation into places where they are safe from the harm of their evil government.

As for Whittier-'s ruler, you are put on notice. We know your true intentions. You are not a man of God, but a false agent and a fallen man. You will not act under our name.

Also, I have been informed that Archbishop Veracos, Chairman of the Moral Alliance, will be considering all possible actions against Whittier-. He will address you separately at a later time.

I have no more time, and cannot take questions, but thank you for yours. God bless...
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 10:21
OOC: If this is intended as a parody of extreme RTL and Bush fascism, must say so over-the-top it borders on the funny side :p
Monetistan
03-04-2005, 10:32
We regret that over 12 million athiests and liberals had to be exterminated before we were able to convince the athiest terrorists that the government meant business. May we never have to do this again.

Monetistan

It was a rather boring day in Monetistan, especially in the CIC headquarters. Nothing happening, few wet, and lots of irrelevant dry operations, gargoyles flooding diskspace...

Annyoing, so to speak. At least that was what Michael Estrados was thinking.

Nothing new, nothign new, boring, irrelevant... Whittier... Whittier... Oh

He read the news, carefully, then googled in.

Lesse... Whittier file... Ah, there.

It was an easy task to do. Nothing especially important, or dangerous, or even interesting. Just replacing a few numbers.

Whitter... Or whittier-... Substract 12 million people from the overall population. Reason: Killed by the government.

His work being done, he googled out, again, leaving his avatar where it was. An easy job, a boring job, but a job.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 16:00
The government of Whittier understands the concerns of the international community over the fate of the athiests. We have always had a policy of allowing our citizens to leave the nation if they chose, unless they have committed crimes. Those who are guilty for these crimes, will not be allowed to leave.
It is regretful that we had to kill 12 million to find the 15,000 who were involved in the plot. While we will allow the atheists and liberals to leave, no one is being allowed out of the nation until we have apprehended all 15,000 conspirators.
We do not import foriegn oil as we have our massive reserves. Nor do we trade with most of the nations that are imposing these so called sanctions on us.
As for the threats of the Moral Alliance, in the UPR state and religion are kept seperate. We have noted the hypocrisy of the Moral Alliance in its unjustified attacks on foreign nations just because they don't believe in God. In the UPR all people are free to choose to believe and practice however they see fit without government interference or restrictions.
Regardless of the conspiracy theories coming out, there was one government official on the bus at the time it was bombed. He was a government negotiator. He died in the line of duty, trying to negotiate an end to the standoff. However, when the terrorists opened fire, he gave the word to bomb the bus.
Further, we know that Sidestreamer was one of the nations responsible for helping the terrorists acquire the nuke. We are watching their on the international community closely.
The actions we have taken were grim but extremely necessary. Due to the fact that we have been attacked by athiest terrorists before who had sought to overthrow the government. Many innocents were killed by the atheists at that time. And our nation has resolved that rather than wait for the athiests to kill defensless people in the name of banning all religion or commit further attempts at overthrowing a government that gaurantees religious freedom to all of its people, we will take the battle to the athiests. If they want to kill millions of christians, jews, or hindus or other religious people, we will kill millions of them and their fellow athiests first. To prevent them from killing people on the basis of religion. And that is just what we have done.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 16:14
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Like as if we are going to believe you. You are accusing Sidestreamer of crimes he didnt commit. You obviously regret nothing, Quit lying and just admit that you killed that for no reason, you didnt need one anyways."
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 16:44
The government of Whittier understands the concerns of the international community over the fate of the athiests. We have always had a policy of allowing our citizens to leave the nation if they chose, unless they have committed crimes. Those who are guilty for these crimes, will not be allowed to leave.
It is regretful that we had to kill 12 million to find the 15,000 who were involved in the plot. While we will allow the atheists and liberals to leave, no one is being allowed out of the nation until we have apprehended all 15,000 conspirators.
We do not import foriegn oil as we have our massive reserves. Nor do we trade with most of the nations that are imposing these so called sanctions on us.
As for the threats of the Moral Alliance, in the UPR state and religion are kept seperate. We have noted the hypocrisy of the Moral Alliance in its unjustified attacks on foreign nations just because they don't believe in God. In the UPR all people are free to choose to believe and practice however they see fit without government interference or restrictions.
Regardless of the conspiracy theories coming out, there was one government official on the bus at the time it was bombed. He was a government negotiator. He died in the line of duty, trying to negotiate an end to the standoff. However, when the terrorists opened fire, he gave the word to bomb the bus.
Further, we know that Sidestreamer was one of the nations responsible for helping the terrorists acquire the nuke. We are watching their on the international community closely.
The actions we have taken were grim but extremely necessary. Due to the fact that we have been attacked by athiest terrorists before who had sought to overthrow the government. Many innocents were killed by the atheists at that time. And our nation has resolved that rather than wait for the athiests to kill defensless people in the name of banning all religion or commit further attempts at overthrowing a government that gaurantees religious freedom to all of its people, we will take the battle to the athiests. If they want to kill millions of christians, jews, or hindus or other religious people, we will kill millions of them and their fellow athiests first. To prevent them from killing people on the basis of religion. And that is just what we have done.

In response to the accusations, Archbishop Ambicus, Foreign Affairs Minister for the Holy Empire of Sidestreamer, responds:

While we certainly hope to get them involved, this is not a Moral Alliance matter as of yet. We only act on behalf of ourselves. I will say however that the Moral Alliance has never in their creed nor in their actions opposed any one nation solely for their atheist leanings.

The accusations that we were in any way involved in the bombing plot are unfounded and wholly without merit, and the lack of evidence Whitter- displayed before making that allegation is telling.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 16:49
In response to the accusations, Archbishop Ambicus, Foreign Affairs Minister for the Holy Empire of Sidestreamer, responds:

While we certainly hope to get them involved, this is not a Moral Alliance matter as of yet. We only act on behalf of ourselves. I will say however that the Moral Alliance has never in their creed nor in their actions opposed any one nation solely for their atheist leanings.

The accusations that we were in any way involved in the bombing plot are unfounded and wholly without merit, and the lack of evidence Whitter- displayed before making that allegation is telling.
Whittier will not negotiate with a terrorist sponsoring state. We demand that Slidestreamer hand over Miguel Handerson, the head athiest terrorist behind the plot at once. If you do not hand him over, we will go in and get him.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 16:54
Official Statement From Red Tide
"What kind of roses do you want on your citizens coffins, Whittier? Red or black? Or do you prefer tulips? In other words... attack this guy without proper evidence and youll have the whole international community bearing down on you. You cant provide any non-bullshit evidence anyways."
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:00
Official Statement From Red Tide
"What kind of roses do you want on your citizens coffins, Whittier? Red or black? Or do you prefer tulips? In other words... attack this guy without proper evidence and youll have the whole international community bearing down on you. You cant provide any non-bullshit evidence anyways."
Our intell sources have reported seeing Mr. Handerson in Sidestreamer at a small villa on the coast. If the government of Sidestreamer does not apprehend and extradite Mr. Handerson, we will have no choice but to take unilateral action to ensure Handerson and his kind never again threaten the Union of People's Republics.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 17:05
Official Message From Red Tidean Goverment
"As I said... you cant put forward any evidence without said evidence being fake..."
End Message
Dumpsterdam
03-04-2005, 17:06
The Royal Navy deployed an Carrier Battlegroup alongside attached DDF divisions to just outside Sidestreamerian waters, any attack from Whittier will mean swift destruction of their forces.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 17:07
Our intell sources have reported seeing Mr. Handerson in Sidestreamer at a small villa on the coast. If the government of Sidestreamer does not apprehend and extradite Mr. Handerson, we will have no choice but to take unilateral action to ensure Handerson and his kind never again threaten the Union of People's Republics.

OOC: What the fuck are you talking about? If you're familiar with how terrorist plots are done, you TG the terrorist nation or vice versa and agree to the terrorist action to be done before it's Role Played.

IC:
Archbishop Ambicus, in a terse response to Whittier's latest accusations, vehemently denied any knowledge of a "Mr. Handerson."

This fascist is also delusional, it appears. There is no evidence he has that we are harboring any known terrorist, and per Sidestream custom, only the Jewish residents of the Isle of Jenova go by two names or are preceded with a "Mr." or "Mrs." and "Mr. Handerson" is not a Jewish name, so if he's here, he's here illegally and not to our knowledge, but this is all irrelevant since he lacks any credible evidence of our involvement!
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:08
Response from the Whittier government:

The government of RedTide2 is free to believe whatever conspiracy theories they have an itching for. However, the evidence we have is not fake. We have informants, witnesses, lists, documents, hard drives, and surveillance videos. and countless hours of bugged phone conversations among the athiests.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 17:10
Official Message From Red Tide Goverment
"Then we are sure you wouldnt mind giving us copies of that 'evidence'... for our anylasis."
Freudotopia
03-04-2005, 17:11
By killing all the athiest in your nation, you are guilty of some of the same crimes you accused them of, namely genocide and attempting to incite religious conflict. Also what is the point of arming your nuclear arsenal in an internal matter?

OOC: Isn't it obvious? He intends to blow up the "conspirators" with a good sally of atom bombs! I can't believe you didn't see that!
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:13
OOC: What the fuck are you talking about? If you're familiar with how terrorist plots are done, you TG the terrorist nation or vice versa and agree to the terrorist action to be done before it's Role Played.

IC:
Archbishop Ambicus, in a terse response to Whittier's latest accusations, vehemently denied any knowledge of a "Mr. Handerson."

This fascist is also delusional, it appears. There is no evidence he has that we are harboring any known terrorist, and per Sidestream custom, only the Jewish residents of the Isle of Jenova go by two names or are preceded with a "Mr." or "Mrs." and "Mr. Handerson" is not a Jewish name, so if he's here, he's here illegally and not to our knowledge, but this is all irrelevant since he lacks any credible evidence of our involvement!

OOC: You have no connection with Mr. Handerson who is loose in the world community. WHittier's position is just an attempt to force Sidestreamers to back off by attempting to bully them. WHittier has been attacked by foreign assisted athiest terrorist groups in the past and, as a whole nation, is paranoid of nations that express support athiests who are accused of plotting to harm the nation and its people. If I didn't rp this way, it would be inconsistent with part of Whittier history and its affect on internal and foreign Whittier policy.
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:16
Official Message From Red Tide Goverment
"Then we are sure you wouldnt mind giving us copies of that 'evidence'... for our anylasis."
Actually we don't mind. All nations are welcome to send representatives to Whittier to review the evidence. But we cannot allow such evidence to leave the nation as we are fearful it may end up missing or misplaced.
Northern Congo
03-04-2005, 17:19
To avoid future incidents and future athiest conspiracies, all athiests and all liberals are being assigned government mentors. They will not be given back their citizenship so they are now people incongito (people without a homeland).

The Commonwealth of Northern Congo extends an offer of citizenship to all of the disenfranchized people of Whittier. We strongly condemn the actions of the government of Whittier. Effective immediately, all buisnesses and individuals in Northern Congo are forbidden from doing buisness with any Whittierian nationals.
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 17:20
OOC: You have no connection with Mr. Handerson who is loose in the world community. WHittier's position is just an attempt to force Sidestreamers to back off by attempting to bully them. WHittier has been attacked by foreign assisted athiest terrorist groups in the past and, as a whole nation, is paranoid of nations that express support athiests who are accused of plotting to harm the nation and its people. If I didn't rp this way, it would be inconsistent with part of Whittier history and its affect on internal and foreign Whittier policy.

OOC: Okay I understand it better now. Apologies.
Sidestreamer
03-04-2005, 17:22
Actually we don't mind. All nations are welcome to send representatives to Whittier to review the evidence. But we cannot allow such evidence to leave the nation as we are fearful it may end up missing or misplaced.

Archbishop Ambicus: (laughs)You must be joking!
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:27
Archbishop Ambicus: (laughs)You must be joking!
Actually we are not joking. The evidence is open for review by the international community. All nations are welcome to send representatives to review it. Including those with which we have zero relations.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 17:46
Official Message From Red Tide
"Your fears are unfounded... but since you are willing to let people analyse the information inside your own nation... we will be sending a team of experts to review the evidence... in order to completely analyse it we expect them to have unlimited access to said evidence. Any attempts to limit the amount of access they have to that evidence shall be viewed with suspicion."
End Message
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 17:54
Official Message From Red Tide
"Your fears are unfounded... but since you are willing to let people analyse the information inside your own nation... we will be sending a team of experts to review the evidence... in order to completely analyse it we expect them to have unlimited access to said evidence. Any attempts to limit the amount of access they have to that evidence shall be viewed with suspicion."
End Message
We have the following limits on the amount access that foriegners will be allowed:
1. Nothing may be taken out of the nation.
2. None of the evidence may altered or otherwise tampered with.
3. All foriegn experts will have Whittier mentors looking over their shoulders while said foreigners are reviewing the evidence.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 18:29
Official Message To Whittier Goverment
"Those terms are perfectly acceptable."
End Message

OOC:So... how are we going to go about analysing the stuff?
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 18:38
Official Message To Whittier Goverment
"Those terms are perfectly acceptable."
End Message

OOC:So... how are we going to go about analysing the stuff?
OOC: basically, there was a massive conspiracy on the part of Handerson and his fellow athiest extremists to kill christians in an attempt to spark some kind of religious war and use it to get national ban on all religions. Handerson is hiding somewhere in the community of nations. Which nation we don't know.
The intell agents claiming he was in sidestreamer are secretly on the payroll of a major international conglomerate that would like to see the Sidestreamer govt. pushed aside so they can exploit that nation's people. But the neither the government of Whittier nor Sidestreamer know this. Nor does anyone else. All they know is that the agents are making claims but can't provide documentation and they are for some reason owning 5 billion dollar estates on government salaries of only $500,000 a year. And they act all nationalistic like they would never do anything to harm Whittier's interests.
Other than that, you review the lists which contain names of conspirators, documents containing the plots and the targets, almost all christians but a couple of muslim groups were targeted also. Also you review the videos and the phone conversations and your people interview the informants.
Red Tide2
03-04-2005, 18:45
OOC:Okay...
IC:The Boeing-707(ironically produced by the Tech-Com Corporation) drew near to the [insert name of capitol city here] airport. On board were several experts and their equipment. Accompanying them were 4 Consortium Agents and a single G-Man... The latter two were there to help analyse(G-Men in particular had a knack for finding evidence) and keep a eye on the experts.

The pilot contacted the control tower, "This is Red Tidean flight 8653 requesting permission to land."
Whittier-
03-04-2005, 19:00
Permission is granted to land on runway 2-381.
Geisenfried
03-04-2005, 19:16
From the desk of the Secretary of State

While we, the Constitutional Monarchy of Geisenfried, do not condone the actions of the Whittier- government, we would like to negotiate the movement of the disenfranchised atheists and liberals who have lost citizenship into Geisenfried, since their deportation from Whittier- is imminent.

Respectfully,
Patrick Souyin
Secretary of State of the Constitutional Monarchy of Geisenfried
Sidestreamer
04-04-2005, 03:17
Official communication from Emperor Maximus IV of the Holy Empire of Sidestreamer

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On behalf of the empire of Sidestreamer, who you have accused of harboring international terrorist leader Miguel Handerson, we wish to request that you allow a representative from our government via Sattelite communication and/or videophone to observe the presentation you plan on running against our Empire. My Intelligence Minister, Wenderfel, will also be attending this video conference.

We believe the accused have a right to see this "evidence" you plan on presenting so that we can comment.
Whittier-
04-04-2005, 03:23
Official communication from Emperor Maximus IV of the Holy Empire of Sidestreamer

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On behalf of the empire of Sidestreamer, who you have accused of harboring international terrorist leader Miguel Handerson, we wish to request that you allow a representative from our government via Sattelite communication and/or videophone to observe the presentation you plan on running against our Empire. My Intelligence Minister, Wenderfel, will also be attending this video conference.

We believe the accused have a right to see this "evidence" you plan on presenting so that we can comment.

OOC: This should make for interesting twist.

IC: Though we are not on good ground, your request to attend is accepted.
Bonstock
04-04-2005, 03:44
Official Press Release
Senate of the Federal Republic of Bonstock

"The FRB is outraged at the treatment of innocent people for their beliefs and association with a small handful of terrorists. We utterly condemn the actions of Whittier, and hope that, someday, their government will feel the full wrath of international justice and their people freed from the yoke of their tyrannical regime.

"For now, the Federal Republic is satisfied with the recent dialogue regarding the treatment of suspects in the fabricated case of the Whittier government. We believe that most of these charges are false and malicious, motivated by religious hatred on the part of the Whittier government.

"Any and all persons who feel that they are being oppressed in Whittier will find safe home in Bonstock. We are willing to accept any refugees regardless of any crimes the government of Whittier has fabricated against them.

"A naval task force centered around the aircraft carrier FRBS Odin is currently en route to waters just out of Whittier's control. They will remain in place until the crisis comes to a close."

-Bonstocknian Sattelite Televison News Service
Whittier-
04-04-2005, 03:55
OOC: You do realize Whittier's territorial waters extend out to 200 miles out from the shore?
Whittier-
04-04-2005, 03:59
An all-out embargo will be placed upon Whittier at once, banning all trade with said nation, allowing their ships in territorial waters to be seized, their citizens to be arrested and jailed and all holdings in the Empire to be frozen for use in the mobilisation.

That and where cutting you off of our massive oil supplies...

Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
The siezure of Whittier ships is a violation of international law and an act of war.
Likewise, all Dumpsterdam assets in WHittier are likely frozen and siezed. All Dumpsterdam citizens in Whittier have been ordered arrested and imprisoned.
All trade with and travel to and from the nation of Dumpsterdam is banned.
Sidestreamer
04-04-2005, 08:03
OOC: This should make for interesting twist.

IC: Though we are not on good ground, your request to attend is accepted.

OOC: Check your telegrams.

IC: Wenderfel speaking. Present the time and make the appropriate arrangements.
Dumpsterdam
04-04-2005, 08:09
The siezure of Whittier ships is a violation of international law and an act of war.
Likewise, all Dumpsterdam assets in WHittier are likely frozen and siezed. All Dumpsterdam citizens in Whittier have been ordered arrested and imprisoned.
All trade with and travel to and from the nation of Dumpsterdam is banned.

OoC: Not that we have any trade with each other, or any citizens but meh ^_^

IC:

Not that we care, we sink anything thats not supposed to be there.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs.