DontPissUsOff
02-04-2005, 01:00
The streets of the capital were constantly living, vehicles moving along them at all hours, blood cells in the veins of a giant beast. The near-incessant rumble of heavy trucks and buses shook the streets beneath the armies of people striding sullenly along the dirty pavements, throwing up clouds of grey and blackish-blue diesel smoke; the clouds hung in the sunlight, refusing to disperse from the city’s mostly windless streets, and caught in people’s throats and noses with the acrid stench of octane and unburnt oil. Along one of the streets, little different from any other British colonial building, sat the Department of Naval Construction, its redbrick exterior facing the strikingly dull offices around it with haughty contempt. Its walls had been party to tens of thousands of meetings, had heard millions of words, seen some of the nation’s most notable naval decisions taken, and today would be the day for yet another such event. Today, deep below the dirty, noisy streets, the largest and most well equipped meeting room in the DNC was being prepared to receive a mere four people, for one of the most important discussions it had seen in the past three decades. Four minutes after the stewards had carefully set out the chairs, the plates of biscuits and snacks, glasses of water, and a small stack of tobacco products, the first of the representatives, the Chief of the Naval Staff, Michael Tracy, who promptly took up a lounging position from which he could watch the room from beneath his shock of close-cropped red hair. Admiral Harwood, now CinC Home Fleet, and the Chief of the DNC, Sir Robert MacAlpine, soon joined him. Last to arrive was Kazakov, the Defence Minister who had spent all of his career overseeing the nation’s military build-up, and who was determined to care for it like his own son, himself an army man.
With a series of discreet but nonetheless succinctly verbose coughs, Kazakov brought the meeting to order. It didn’t need much ordering anyway, but it was his job to order it and he would do so, come hell or high water. As silence descended, he commenced his usual address.
“Gentlemen, please, if we could call this meeting to order.” A pause. “Thank you.” He looked around, making sure he had his colleagues’ attention, and lit a cigar for himself before commencing. The cigar tasted good, and he savoured the smoke in his mouth for a second, proceeding with a reluctant sigh as he expelled the smoke.
“We’re all aware of why we are here. The Defence Ministry has received reports from the NSB of various new, heavy warships entering the service of several foreign nations. While this is nothing particularly new, it seems that this has finally alarmed my colleagues enough for them to ask for the design of a warship to compete, or at least challenge in some way, these foreign vessels.”
“You mean a super-dreadnought,” interjected Tracy with distaste. “The Defence Ministry has finally let common sense be overcome by size, and is going to ask for a useless warship.”
Kazakov gritted his teeth. “Mike, no. I do not, for your information, mean a super-dreadnought. I happen to agree that the super-dreadnought, especially the trimaran one, is possibly the largest and most useless type of combat ship ever conceived by mankind.”
MacAlpine sat up, apparently rather shocked. “You mean you want use to design a monohull warship to compete with the firepower and survivability offered by a triple-hulled warship?”
“I don’t particularly care, Robert, strangely enough,” replied Kazakov, a sigh escaping his lips again. “Heck, I don’t much care whether we have some huge great monster floating about or not, but evidently the rest of the Ministry does, and the Prime Minister does, and what’s more, since that little leak fiasco two months back, so does the public. The way the idiots out on the street talk, you’d think that the very survival of the nation were at stake and the whole fleet laid up and rotting in the Inland Sea!” Kazakov’s hands reached skywards in despair.
Harwood, who had until now busied himself filling his pipe, addressed the others. “It seems to me,” he said, drawling around his pipe, “that we don’t have all that much of a choice. The Navy is resistant to monster battleships as much as the rest of the Defence community, believe me. We too remember the Yamato, you see. Nonetheless, it has to be said that constant evolution in the size of battleships is inevitable. Put it like this: at the end of World War One, the average modern battleship was about twenty-four thousand tons. At the end of World War two, the average modern battleship was around fifty thousand tons, a doubling in size in less than thirty years. If a nation’s population doubled in thirty years, you’d say they’d had a population explosion, and warships are no different. Back when the first Soyuz was launched, she was hailed as a titan, at nearly ninety thousand tons. Then we had the Frunze, and with her the weight came up by an extra fifteen or so thousand tons. To keep the weight gain down, we had to put the third turret in a position from which it couldn’t fire forward, I remind you. Then we got the Hunters into service, and they displaced one hundred and twenty thousand tons, fully laden, before refit. The refitted versions displace more than thirty thousand tons more fully laden. The Blue Dragon class fleet carriers displace more than two hundred thousand tons fully laden.” Harwood sucked on his pipe and sat back, a slightly superior smile playing on his lips. “Face it: if we’re to keep up, we must increase the size of our ships to accommodate new technologies and ideas.”
“Why do we need to keep up in those monsters, Robert?” Tracy’s beard shook with his vigorously moving head. “Why waste vast sums of money on even larger and theoretically more powerful capital ships which will just be giant targets in combat? Think about it: for the cost of one of these big ships, we could build, say, two smaller battleships, or an aircraft carrier, or ten submarines. More flexible, more manoeuvrable, more mutually supportive warships, and more of them.” He gestured to the map of the world at the end of the room. “What happens if we build, say, four of these things and then find that one’s needed somewhere where it isn’t? All right, so say it’s a week’s steaming away. Whatever’s going on, odds are it’ll be too late for us to do anything about it. With a smaller and more mobile fleet, we could have our ships in every ocean, all the time, and when one of these huge foreign dreadnoughts comes out after us, concentrate all our forces and smash them by numbers and manoeuvre. There is, realistically, no need to indulge the megalomaniac dreams of a few civilians and navy personnel at the expense of combat capability,” concluded Tracy, eyes flashing at Harwood. Do you remember the Yamato, I wonder?
Harwood refused to rise to the bait. Even if he had wished to, MacAlpine seized the moment, leaning back in his chair again and puffing contentedly on a cigar.
“Well, even if this thing were to prove more useful than you suggest, Mike, it’d be a hell of a construction job. I mean, just how large are we talking here? I read the report, but it didn’t really give a huge amount of detail.”
“We’re talking a ship mounting guns between twenty-two and twenty-four inches, with a six-inch secondary battery and perhaps two hundred cruise missile cells, maybe more.” Kazakov gestured to a projection he had just brought up on the wall monitor. “Current thinking is that we should have at the very least ten of these weapons, and at most twenty, on a hull using the same protection systems we’ve used on all of our heavies when we refitted them. The overwhelming priority is firepower and protection; speed need not be particularly high, in the opinion of the Naval Section.” Kazakov chuckled. “Of course, that probably won’t be optional, even with Pebblebeds. The ship will be between two and three hundred thousand tons laden, or so we envisage, probably around five hundred metres long and about 70 metres in the beam or so.”
MacAlpine blew out his cheeks. “Why weren’t we told that this would be the specification in the initial report?” he complained.
“We didn’t have any kind of spec drawn up, Bob. This is the first spec the Naval Section has come up with, and so I thought it easiest to present it to you today. Of course, they thought better and sent it to you anyway. It should arrive around about now, actually.” Kazakov shook his head, inviting the others to gasp at the stupidity of bureaucracy.
MacAlpine looked annoyed that his irritation had been so easily dismissed. “Well,” he replied curtly,” fair enough.” He became calmer again. “Well, a ship that size is one hell of a tall order. The required materials for it alone will be immense, and no dockyard in this land can handle a ship of those dimensions except the RSI yards at Star Point, and they’re already building hulls for the Dragons. Even if they work flat-out, they can’t build these things rapidly themselves. Not only that, but a ship that large will suffer from problems with hull bracing and support, not to mention shock damage—“
“And being a bloody great target!” Tracy snapped. “The whole idea is ludicrous. For a fraction of the cost we could build fast cruisers with thirty-inch guns and use swarms of them, with air support, to attack these massive enemy ships. They’d be dead long before they reached us.”
“Maybe, maybe not.” Harwood sucked on his pipe again. “It would be foolish to follow in the path of John Fisher, however. Remember Courageous and Glorious? Or Furious for that matter? What’s the sense in mounting a vast heavy gun system on a cruiser’s armour and sending it against a warship which can take the hit ours can’t? You say that this ship will be little more than an expensive target, and then you blithely assume that these “fast cruisers” of yours will be able to destroy ships that can shrug off their shells for more than long enough to blow them to pieces? Seems an awfully wasteful way to spend our budget, building kamikaze ships. Besides,” pressed on Harwood, cutting off Tracy’s furious reply, “they’d be invaluable for showing the flag, wouldn’t they? Take along a massive battlewagon with all the trimmings to international affairs and watch people think twice about attacking us then. A two in one weapon. Just imagine what one of these could do in tandem with a Dragon and an escort group! They could wreak havoc!”
Tracy fumed. “Or they could be blown out of the water by aircraft, submarines and smaller ships long before they got there! Think of the psychological impact if one of those things were sunk!”
“Think of the impact if one hundred of your cruisers were sunk! What then, when my men are coming home dead in their hundreds, draped in the national flag, and the funeral marches playing all day? Do you want to destroy our navy?”
“Do YOU want to waste billions of pounds’ worth of money and God alone knows how much time and effort to build vast white elephants? Explain that to the taxpayer! Who knows, you might even be able to explain it when they get blown to pieces, or their slipways collapse!”
As Harwood inhaled sharply, his fist clenghting around the bowl of his pipe, Kazakov rose to his feet. “Shut up, the pair of you! The fact is, regardless of what you two think is the right bloody idea, we have been ordered to investigate the possibility of designing and building these ships. Mister MacAlpine: if the funding and equipment is provided for their construction, and the design is within the parameters I suggested, can we build them?”
MacAlpine checked the glaring faces of Tracy and Harwood, then looked at the floor. Finally, he heaved a long and weary sigh.
“Yes, yes we can. Assuming that we receive the funding and the requisite modifications and equipment, we can make these ships. But there will be problems.”
“I don’t doubt that there will be problems,” smiled Kazakov dangerously. “It is your job to solve them, not create them, and that goes for you two as well! This meeting was convened to determine the feasibility of these warships for construction and use. We know that they can be built, and we know that they can be used. You are to return to your departments. Tracy and Harwood, you are to draw up lists of what you would expect from a ship of this specification. I want weapons, armour, speed, that sort of thing. When you’re done, send them to the DNC. Bob, I need you to get the specs collated with the MoD’s and then send them back to me. Once the Naval Section approves them, we will send out a contract to the shipyards, gunsmiths and so forth.” Kazakov walked to the door and opened it, as though he was a butler. “You will be notified when you are all required to meet again. Until then, you may leave.”
OOC: Thanks very much to Azazia, for the idea for a dev thread. :)
With a series of discreet but nonetheless succinctly verbose coughs, Kazakov brought the meeting to order. It didn’t need much ordering anyway, but it was his job to order it and he would do so, come hell or high water. As silence descended, he commenced his usual address.
“Gentlemen, please, if we could call this meeting to order.” A pause. “Thank you.” He looked around, making sure he had his colleagues’ attention, and lit a cigar for himself before commencing. The cigar tasted good, and he savoured the smoke in his mouth for a second, proceeding with a reluctant sigh as he expelled the smoke.
“We’re all aware of why we are here. The Defence Ministry has received reports from the NSB of various new, heavy warships entering the service of several foreign nations. While this is nothing particularly new, it seems that this has finally alarmed my colleagues enough for them to ask for the design of a warship to compete, or at least challenge in some way, these foreign vessels.”
“You mean a super-dreadnought,” interjected Tracy with distaste. “The Defence Ministry has finally let common sense be overcome by size, and is going to ask for a useless warship.”
Kazakov gritted his teeth. “Mike, no. I do not, for your information, mean a super-dreadnought. I happen to agree that the super-dreadnought, especially the trimaran one, is possibly the largest and most useless type of combat ship ever conceived by mankind.”
MacAlpine sat up, apparently rather shocked. “You mean you want use to design a monohull warship to compete with the firepower and survivability offered by a triple-hulled warship?”
“I don’t particularly care, Robert, strangely enough,” replied Kazakov, a sigh escaping his lips again. “Heck, I don’t much care whether we have some huge great monster floating about or not, but evidently the rest of the Ministry does, and the Prime Minister does, and what’s more, since that little leak fiasco two months back, so does the public. The way the idiots out on the street talk, you’d think that the very survival of the nation were at stake and the whole fleet laid up and rotting in the Inland Sea!” Kazakov’s hands reached skywards in despair.
Harwood, who had until now busied himself filling his pipe, addressed the others. “It seems to me,” he said, drawling around his pipe, “that we don’t have all that much of a choice. The Navy is resistant to monster battleships as much as the rest of the Defence community, believe me. We too remember the Yamato, you see. Nonetheless, it has to be said that constant evolution in the size of battleships is inevitable. Put it like this: at the end of World War One, the average modern battleship was about twenty-four thousand tons. At the end of World War two, the average modern battleship was around fifty thousand tons, a doubling in size in less than thirty years. If a nation’s population doubled in thirty years, you’d say they’d had a population explosion, and warships are no different. Back when the first Soyuz was launched, she was hailed as a titan, at nearly ninety thousand tons. Then we had the Frunze, and with her the weight came up by an extra fifteen or so thousand tons. To keep the weight gain down, we had to put the third turret in a position from which it couldn’t fire forward, I remind you. Then we got the Hunters into service, and they displaced one hundred and twenty thousand tons, fully laden, before refit. The refitted versions displace more than thirty thousand tons more fully laden. The Blue Dragon class fleet carriers displace more than two hundred thousand tons fully laden.” Harwood sucked on his pipe and sat back, a slightly superior smile playing on his lips. “Face it: if we’re to keep up, we must increase the size of our ships to accommodate new technologies and ideas.”
“Why do we need to keep up in those monsters, Robert?” Tracy’s beard shook with his vigorously moving head. “Why waste vast sums of money on even larger and theoretically more powerful capital ships which will just be giant targets in combat? Think about it: for the cost of one of these big ships, we could build, say, two smaller battleships, or an aircraft carrier, or ten submarines. More flexible, more manoeuvrable, more mutually supportive warships, and more of them.” He gestured to the map of the world at the end of the room. “What happens if we build, say, four of these things and then find that one’s needed somewhere where it isn’t? All right, so say it’s a week’s steaming away. Whatever’s going on, odds are it’ll be too late for us to do anything about it. With a smaller and more mobile fleet, we could have our ships in every ocean, all the time, and when one of these huge foreign dreadnoughts comes out after us, concentrate all our forces and smash them by numbers and manoeuvre. There is, realistically, no need to indulge the megalomaniac dreams of a few civilians and navy personnel at the expense of combat capability,” concluded Tracy, eyes flashing at Harwood. Do you remember the Yamato, I wonder?
Harwood refused to rise to the bait. Even if he had wished to, MacAlpine seized the moment, leaning back in his chair again and puffing contentedly on a cigar.
“Well, even if this thing were to prove more useful than you suggest, Mike, it’d be a hell of a construction job. I mean, just how large are we talking here? I read the report, but it didn’t really give a huge amount of detail.”
“We’re talking a ship mounting guns between twenty-two and twenty-four inches, with a six-inch secondary battery and perhaps two hundred cruise missile cells, maybe more.” Kazakov gestured to a projection he had just brought up on the wall monitor. “Current thinking is that we should have at the very least ten of these weapons, and at most twenty, on a hull using the same protection systems we’ve used on all of our heavies when we refitted them. The overwhelming priority is firepower and protection; speed need not be particularly high, in the opinion of the Naval Section.” Kazakov chuckled. “Of course, that probably won’t be optional, even with Pebblebeds. The ship will be between two and three hundred thousand tons laden, or so we envisage, probably around five hundred metres long and about 70 metres in the beam or so.”
MacAlpine blew out his cheeks. “Why weren’t we told that this would be the specification in the initial report?” he complained.
“We didn’t have any kind of spec drawn up, Bob. This is the first spec the Naval Section has come up with, and so I thought it easiest to present it to you today. Of course, they thought better and sent it to you anyway. It should arrive around about now, actually.” Kazakov shook his head, inviting the others to gasp at the stupidity of bureaucracy.
MacAlpine looked annoyed that his irritation had been so easily dismissed. “Well,” he replied curtly,” fair enough.” He became calmer again. “Well, a ship that size is one hell of a tall order. The required materials for it alone will be immense, and no dockyard in this land can handle a ship of those dimensions except the RSI yards at Star Point, and they’re already building hulls for the Dragons. Even if they work flat-out, they can’t build these things rapidly themselves. Not only that, but a ship that large will suffer from problems with hull bracing and support, not to mention shock damage—“
“And being a bloody great target!” Tracy snapped. “The whole idea is ludicrous. For a fraction of the cost we could build fast cruisers with thirty-inch guns and use swarms of them, with air support, to attack these massive enemy ships. They’d be dead long before they reached us.”
“Maybe, maybe not.” Harwood sucked on his pipe again. “It would be foolish to follow in the path of John Fisher, however. Remember Courageous and Glorious? Or Furious for that matter? What’s the sense in mounting a vast heavy gun system on a cruiser’s armour and sending it against a warship which can take the hit ours can’t? You say that this ship will be little more than an expensive target, and then you blithely assume that these “fast cruisers” of yours will be able to destroy ships that can shrug off their shells for more than long enough to blow them to pieces? Seems an awfully wasteful way to spend our budget, building kamikaze ships. Besides,” pressed on Harwood, cutting off Tracy’s furious reply, “they’d be invaluable for showing the flag, wouldn’t they? Take along a massive battlewagon with all the trimmings to international affairs and watch people think twice about attacking us then. A two in one weapon. Just imagine what one of these could do in tandem with a Dragon and an escort group! They could wreak havoc!”
Tracy fumed. “Or they could be blown out of the water by aircraft, submarines and smaller ships long before they got there! Think of the psychological impact if one of those things were sunk!”
“Think of the impact if one hundred of your cruisers were sunk! What then, when my men are coming home dead in their hundreds, draped in the national flag, and the funeral marches playing all day? Do you want to destroy our navy?”
“Do YOU want to waste billions of pounds’ worth of money and God alone knows how much time and effort to build vast white elephants? Explain that to the taxpayer! Who knows, you might even be able to explain it when they get blown to pieces, or their slipways collapse!”
As Harwood inhaled sharply, his fist clenghting around the bowl of his pipe, Kazakov rose to his feet. “Shut up, the pair of you! The fact is, regardless of what you two think is the right bloody idea, we have been ordered to investigate the possibility of designing and building these ships. Mister MacAlpine: if the funding and equipment is provided for their construction, and the design is within the parameters I suggested, can we build them?”
MacAlpine checked the glaring faces of Tracy and Harwood, then looked at the floor. Finally, he heaved a long and weary sigh.
“Yes, yes we can. Assuming that we receive the funding and the requisite modifications and equipment, we can make these ships. But there will be problems.”
“I don’t doubt that there will be problems,” smiled Kazakov dangerously. “It is your job to solve them, not create them, and that goes for you two as well! This meeting was convened to determine the feasibility of these warships for construction and use. We know that they can be built, and we know that they can be used. You are to return to your departments. Tracy and Harwood, you are to draw up lists of what you would expect from a ship of this specification. I want weapons, armour, speed, that sort of thing. When you’re done, send them to the DNC. Bob, I need you to get the specs collated with the MoD’s and then send them back to me. Once the Naval Section approves them, we will send out a contract to the shipyards, gunsmiths and so forth.” Kazakov walked to the door and opened it, as though he was a butler. “You will be notified when you are all required to meet again. Until then, you may leave.”
OOC: Thanks very much to Azazia, for the idea for a dev thread. :)