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It seemed to be only a trite passage, only in his sleep and so undisturbed. Such deaths were few and rare, but yet, he must have moved on in this peace. It seemed inevitable, as the man had been of increasingly failing health, and had recently put on a feeding tube. Even further, his Parkinsons had only worsened. The shock was much more softer in that form. Soon, the announcement was made.

The Sacred College of Cardinals

It is truly a dark day under god, that we announce the death of the pontiff Pope John Paul the II to the world. He died in peace, and in his sleep, and while the specifics of his death are unknown, we all recognize that this is a tragedy, and that we shall join in mourning to his death. The Carmerlengo has verified this death, and we must now rise above such a tragedy. We must announce that in sixteen days, the Sacred College shall hold their conclave to elect the newest seat to the papacy.

The Sacred College now wishes to review those that are submitting themselves to become the new pontiff of the NationStates Catholic Church and thus, Bishop of Rome and the Holy See. Those who are called by God can come forward, no nominations shall be denied as long as they are adult Catholic males.

Sixteen days are left, and God watches over us.
[OOC: This is an idea of mine. This is a completely open RP, and here is the jist: Each country can give their own nomination, usually it is a Catholic Cardinal. After the Sixteen Days of nominations are completed, elections by poll will be held, and those who recognize the NationStates Catholic Church will recognize the election of the new pontiff. Thoughts? Questions? I am open. Below is the Imperial Union's nomination, and his announcement can be used as a layout for your own nomination.]

Official Statement from the Napoleonic Catholic Church
Those under God, for Truth and State, my words are now free.

I am Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis, nominated and appointed by Pope John Paul the II from my position as Bishop of Rouen. Long have I seen the Catholic Church decayed in the eyes of men, losing its true message under the prostleytation that has lost so much power. We must see the truth that we have let ourselves come to this, but through, reform, we can realize that there can be a new age to the Catholic faith.

There has been a new Enlightenement within France and Western Europe, as the rise of rationalism and humanism, as well as state centralism and nationalism has brought the path of the Enlightened Republic to France. I have embraced this new Enlightenment, but a mirror enlightening within our own faith is required if we are truly to understand and learn under God, and unite ourelves in such a violent world towards the faith of Catholicism.

With the support of the Napoleonic Catholic community and also the Emperor Elect of France, Raphaele D'Locke, I intend on participating in this papal election to become pontiff. Under this new papal responsibility I seek, I will not work specifically for the interests of my own nation, rather, I seek the interests of Catholics abroad, European and otherwise.

Catholicism is in decline, but I do not seek popularity, as much as reform to set things straight. I am running this seeking of the pontiffship under four main principles.

We must accept that while indeed the pontiff is the divine mediator between God and his people, the Catholic Churhc, the individual elements of the Church have fallen into much decay under this pretense that the Church as a whole is infallible. I am setting a core principle to weeding out the corruption within the church that soils the good name of God and Catholics. Long has the Church descrediting organizations such as the AMORC and the Masonic Lodges, but only in fear. We must realize that it is the corruption and power seeking that is bringing down the Church from its divine mandate under God.
Furthermore, we must now devout ourselves to the practice of Catholicism furtherfold, because of a seeming lax perhaps. While perhaps not all words of the holy texts are taken verbatim, this is not a simple request to devote to Dogma. We do not seek sheep, but minds who will contribute further to a fuller mission of the Catholic community to bind Church and Individual in civic life and ethic.
Movements of further living to the life handed down in tradition to us in the model of the Christ as Savior and Redeemer must now be held mroe sacred and seriously. We must not instead of devoting perhaps to esoteric concepts as Heaven, which is clearly defined, instead focus on perhaps how living a good life leads to such awards. Long have I seen a focus in the Catholic world based on fear. But fear of God and fear of Hell are mutually exclusive. We have forgotten that dedication to God comes before fear of hell-fire that will devour us. We have forgotten that by devoting ourselves to God we evade hell-fire all together.
As a final afterthought, structural reform of the Church is required to eliminate the large administrative waste and bureacracy that further adds to corruption. So many funding straights of money are wasted to endless pits that need to be cut off like a cancer, and to allow the Church to survive, we must streamline our structure to create a much more efficient, and authoritative system that will create a new sense of authority and respect to the papacy across the world.

The motto of this platform is of "Reform, Rethink, Devote." We must now ask oruselves what step we take next. As soon as public support decrees, a private press conference for the press of all nations will be held in the Vatican in the Sacred College of Cardinals on the topic of my nomination and choice to run for the position of Pontiff.

God bless, for state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church
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[OOC: Bringing this to the top this morning.]

[bump, for the RL event]

[OOC: If there is a problem with my writing or style, you can certainly point that out. If it is only the concept, the fine. I will continue on in the next post, but I suppose I am testing the waters here. Hoping to gain a small bit of interest into a thread like this.]

His Eminence Miloslav Cardinal Vlk ,head of the Czech Catholic Church, the archbishop of Prague, Has been nominated to become the next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. His goals is to maintain the ways of the Church and to pervent any changes to dogma of Church.

His Eminence Miloslav Cardinal Vlk ,head of the Czech Catholic Church, the archbishop of Prague, Has been nominated to become the next Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. His goals is to maintain the ways of the Church and to pervent any changes to dogma of Church.
Statement from the Church of Rouen
We wish to first congratulate Cardinal Vlk on his nomination tot he papacy, and invite him fully to the race. Of course, while we are opposing in both platform and position, we nevertheless seek to welcome the Archbishop and Cardinal to the stage.

However, I would like to organize this oppoirtunity to compare the platforms of the mroe conservative bloc of the Dogma and doctrine of the church to the Reformers that support me in my platform based upon rethinking the Dogma. To do such, I propose that we have a little conferecne and open forum for discussion, a debate if you will, between us. This could be organized at Rouen, Prague, or the Vatican, and will give an opportunity for the public to make a fuller sense of the two opposed positions being placedu pon this run for the papacy.

Even further, we invite all other nominations to the pontiffship to join in this confrence, as there are many other voices out there that wish to be heard.

For state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church
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Official Response

Cardinal Marius Caius Junius, Patriarch of Doomingsland, has been nominated for the Papacy. He is already aboard a transport aircraft bound for the Vatican.

OOC:Policies include:

-Cracking down on Heretics

-Reesablishing the Inquisition

-Taking a more hardline stance on those who seek to harm Christiandom (i.e. declaring a Crusade here and there)

You get the idea.

Official Response

Cardinal Marius Caius Junius, Patriarch of Doomingsland, has been nominated for the Papacy. He is already aboard a transport aircraft bound for the Vatican.

OOC:Policies include:

-Cracking down on Heretics

-Reesablishing the Inquisition

-Taking a more hardline stance on those who seek to harm Christiandom (i.e. declaring a Crusade here and there)

You get the idea.
Statement from the Church of Rouen
We first would like to congratulate Cardinal Junius on his nomination, and wish him the blessings of God. But further, we would like also to invite Cardinal Junius to the open conference to be held at the Vatican to discuss possible prospects and future for the Catholic Church after the Conclave to be held for the election.

We would also like to further enquire into what sort of position "Patriarch" entails, as it often denotes Orthodoxy, not Catholicism.

For state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church

Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:

I, Primate Sergei Kreshnev of The Island of Rose, has been nominated to be the next Pope. My reforms would be wide and drastic. This includes the elimination of the practice of praying to Saints. Nudism as a legal attire for attending Mass, the elimination of the bureaucratic processes of the Church, and other reforms which will be mentioned. I will probably not be elected, but at least I tried.
Sergei Kreshnev
Primate of The Island of Rose

Official Response

In Doomingsland, Patriarch is the title granted to the head of the Catholic Church. The nation is, in fact, officialy Catholic, and over 97% of the populace are among the faithfull.

The Cardinal graciously accepts this invitation to the conference.

Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:

I, Primate Sergei Kreshnev of The Island of Rose, has been nominated to be the next Pope. My reforms would be wide and drastic. This includes the elimination of the practice of praying to Saints. Nudism as a legal attire for attending Mass, the elimination of the bureaucratic processes of the Church, and other reforms which will be mentioned. I will probably not be elected, but at least I tried.
Sergei Kreshnev
Primate of The Island of Rose
Statement from the Church of Rouen
We wish to reiterate our welcome to the newest nomination to the papacy, wishing the best of luck. Along with this welcome is the invintation to the conference elaborated above.

We would also like to remark that the reformists that stand behind me as a similar platform in spirit, if not application. We also wish to streamline the bureacracy, as well as more focus on the personal life than of the intangible, and the elimination of infallibility of clergy.

We are slightly taken aback at the elimination of the practice of praying to Saints. We wish to know your intention behind this.

As for nudism, we do not condemn nor condone, though I personally see it as unclean. It is not good for your hygeine to be in the nude so close in proximity with others. We also believe modesty should be encouraged, but not enforced.

For state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church

Official Statement from The Rosian Roman Catholic Church:

You will know when the meeting begins, do not worry.
Sergei Kreshnev
Primate of The Island of Rose

(Basically he wants to modernize and liberalize the Church.)

[OOC: *will wait for any more candidates, until everyone is ready to start the Vatican conference.*]

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OOC: Wheres the conference? Would it be ok if I assassinated a few candidates in support of one of them.

((I havent Rped on this line before, but sounds interesting))

Cardinal Prince Louis de Rohan, Grand Almoner of Elkazor and Cardinal of Holy Mother Church, is nominated to the post of Vicar of Christ.

He is a staunch reactionary, foremost on his agenda in the reversal of Vatican II. He also is a supporter only of traditional doghma, and is a scholar of Sts. Jerome and Augustin.

OOC: Wheres the conference? Would it be ok if I assassinated a few candidates in support of one of them.
[OOC: I want a few more nominations first. And this must be handled on a case-by-case basis. Talk with them over telegram. As for du Plessis, it wouldn't be impossible, but he has three knighthoods under his service, so it will not be necessarily easy.]

[OOC: I want a few more nominations first. And this must be handled on a case-by-case basis. Talk with them over telegram. As for du Plessis, it wouldn't be impossible, but he has three knighthoods under his service, so it will not be necessarily easy.]
OOC: Could you get on MSN?

OOC: Wheres the conference? Would it be ok if I assassinated a few candidates in support of one of them.
[OOC: Oh, you meant location. The Vatican. And I am on MSN (casper1system@hotmail.com)]

Cardinal Prince Louis de Rohan, Grand Almoner of Elkazor and Cardinal of Holy Mother Church, is nominated to the post of Vicar of Christ.

He is a staunch reactionary, foremost on his agenda in the reversal of Vatican II. He also is a supporter only of traditional doghma, and is a scholar of Sts. Jerome and Augustin.
Statement from the Church of Rouen
We first would like to congratulate Cardinal Rohan on his nomination, and wish him the blessings of God. But further, we would like also to invite Cardinal Rohan to the open conference to be held at the Vatican to discuss possible prospects and future for the Catholic Church after the Conclave to be held for the election.

We would also like to enquire further into Cardinal Rohan's studies of Jerome and Augustin. I myself am a avid reader and applier of St. Thomas Aquinas's works, though I also add my varied political philosophy to create my syncretic reform.

For state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church

Arch-Bishop Michael O'Malley of Protocoach, leader of the Roman Catholic movement in both his own homeland and several neighboring nations, including much of the United Irish Emirates, is respectfully nominated for the Office of the Papacy, Heir of Peter and Vicar of the Church.

His platform is one of milder reform, reemphasis on Vatican II, opening better lines of communications with our Muslim and Jewish brethren and making the Church more relevant in the daily life of its people.

Also, he stands for the championing of civil rights and has long campaigned against Protocoach's governmental practices, supporting those similar to the other nations he presides over, most noticably Mekdemia.

He stands against those who would turn this election into a mockery and asks for the Catholics' of NationStates support in his quest for the Office of the Papacy.

Arch-Bishop Michael O'Malley of Protocoach, leader of the Roman Catholic movement in both his own homeland and several neighboring nations, including much of the United Irish Emirates, is respectfully nominated for the Office of the Papacy, Heir of Peter and Vicar of the Church.

His platform is one of milder reform, reemphasis on Vatican II, opening better lines of communications with our Muslim and Jewish brethren and making the Church more relevant in the daily life of its people.

Also, he stands for the championing of civil rights and has long campaigned against Protocoach's governmental practices, supporting those similar to the other nations he presides over, most noticably Mekdemia.

He stands against those who would turn this election into a mockery and asks for the Catholics' of NationStates support in his quest for the Office of the Papacy.
Statement from the Church of Rouen
We first would like to congratulate Archbishop O'Malley on his nomination, and wish him the blessings of God. But further, we would like also to invite Archbishop O'Malley to the open conference to be held at the Vatican to discuss possible prospects and future for the Catholic Church after the Conclave to be held for the election.

But we want to know what exactly he means by "make this election a mockery," and whom perhaps this statement pertained to, to prevent any future misunderstanding.

For state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis
Leader of the Napoleonic Catholic Church

The nation of Hajjiyah is a nation with a mostly Muslim population, however, there are two million professing Catholics in this nation.

Cardinal Louis Sainte-Marie Sununu, 67, Archbishop of Hajjiyah, has been nominated as a contender to the Papacy. Cardinal Sununu wishes to lead a "peaceful Crusade" in non-Catholic countries to bring more people to heaven. While the Archbishop is against the cloning of humans and abortion, he is a great advocate for human rights, and desires to relax laws against celibacy for clergy, as well as allowing women to take a larger position in the Church. Cardinal Sununu has been imprisoned by Hajjiyah's oppressive government on several occasions for speaking out against the tyranny and hate spread by that nation's Moslem fundamentalist rulers. He has sought to reach out to the followers of Islam and Judaism.

Sununu would be an excellent choice, as he is from a small, Third-World nation, and selecting him as pontiff would prove that the Catholic Church is in fact a church for the whole planet, rather than the wealthiest and must industrial of nations.

[ OOC: Who DOESN'T want a Pacitalian to lead the church? COME ON... :p

OOC 2: I'm against Parthia being allowed to assassinate papal candidates. No offence, but there's enough of that going around here - the assassinate-a-leader thing is getting old. ]

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Official Pacitalian Government Statement

It is with great pleasure, pride and devotion to God that we, the people of the Republic of Pacitalia, put our nomination forth for the new papacy of the holy Roman Catholic Church.

Our nomination is Primo Girulamo Cardinal Vascocento, the 64-year-old Archbishop of Mandragora, and Cardinal of Beracanto. He is a true leader of the Church, with his long-lasting devotion to the Catholic faith, having been born right into the teachings and beliefs of the divine word of God. He is also a champion of human rights and equality, having led several missions around the world, especially to poorer nations to show them the advantages of life with industry and commerce as a backbone, in cooperation with the founding principles and morals of the Catholic faith.

Signore Cardinal Vascocento stands firmly in his beliefs that papal elections, or conclavemu as they are known in Pacitalia, should continue to further the traditions of Catholicism worldwide. Pacitalians feel it is time for one of their own to represent the sphere of Catholic influence and their country, and we feel that Signore Cardinal Vascocento is a perfect example of the international diplomatic and humanitarian friendships that Pacitalians strive for worldwide. We in the Republic are made up significantly of this faith and are devoted to father, son and spirit and the will of Jesus Christ, and to see a strong cardinale from our own nation would only strengthen the Catholic church's roots in Pacitalia and those who share our faith and are allied to us, either religiously or diplomatically.

With that, I, on behalf of Signore Cardinal Vascocento, of course with his support and thanks, and the support of the entire Catholic faith of Pacitalia, would like to put forth his nomination officially, and hope that those around the world in the Catholic sphere share His Holy Eminence's views of the future of the global village, as it is influenced by a Catholic faith more oriented towards the championing of human rights and salvation.

Thank you for your time and I wish you the best of luck in the proceedings of the conclave.

Sincerely in good faith,
Prime Minister Timothy Ell
Republic of Pacitalia

Announcement from the Church of Rouen
Firstly, we thank the new candidates for papacy, that of Signore Cardinal Vascocento and Cardinal Louis Sainte-Marie Sununu. We take this candidates in open arms and wish them great luck before the Conclave. As it draws ever nearer, we only have one last order of business that we would like to present, an unprecedented event that will spread consciousness of the Church's internal affairs and allow for a palatable display of the platforms and personalities that are to be elected. This conference that has been suggested has now been approved by the Sacred College of Cardinals and will be held in a secure building in the Vatican. The building is an assembly hall that was often used for entertainment purposes but has been converted for this.

Security details shall be allowed to attend, and I will be appointed from my own knighthoods of chevaliers to protect both the building, including everyone in it, and myself. We ask that no military personnel be allowed, and only privately contracted bodyguards or state sanctioned agents/law enforcement officers, those designed for the job otherwise. The conference itself will begin shortly after each of the candidates arrive, and then they will come upon the stage and sit in a row of chairs. First, each candidate can make a statement, and then the journalists and other people in the audience may ask all questions of the candidates, either one specifically or the entire group. The person on the leftmost chair has the first answer, and then it moves down the row.

You are not obliged to answer every question, but in the interest of presenting a good image and showing good character, it is well advised. Anybody can buy tickets and attend the conference. Those who are invited to come in the function of speaking at the conference are the following papal candidates.

Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis, from the Third Napoleonic Empire and the Church of Rouen

Cardinal Miroslav Vlk, from the Ottoman Empire and the Church of Poland

Cardinal Marius Caius Junius, from Doomingsland, Patriarch of the Church of Doomingsland

Primate Sergei Kreshnev, from the Island of Rose and the Rosian Catholic Church

Cardinal Prince Louis de Rohan, from Elkazor and the Holy Mother Church

Archbishop Michael O'Malley, from Protocoach and leader of the Catholic movements of United Irish Emigrates, Mekdemia, and Protocoach

Cardinal Louis Sainte-Marie Sununu, from Hajiyya and the oppressed Catholic people of Hajiyya

Primo Girulamo Cardinal Vascocento, from Pacitalia and the Church of Beracanto

Immediately, my own transprotation to the Vatican will be leaving from Rouen, and I will be glad to see everyone there.

God bless, for state and truth,
Cardinal Armand Jean du Plessis

The Holy Roman Catholic Church of Communist Louisiana here by nominates its own Cardinal Edward K. Braxton as a papal candidate.

Cardinal Edward K. Braxton
With the help of the alimghty, I shall work to unite the Roman Catholics once again throughout the world into one and only one Catholic Religion. No more should the governments be involved in the religion as well as personally preferences. It is time to show to our faithful Catholics that we can nationally put aside our differences and beliefs and be united on one good and truely powerful issue. Blessed are those who do not see the Lord and still believe in him.

I stand against gay marriage as well as abortion and legal euthanasia. It is our job not to try to interpret the bible the way we see it. It is our job to sheppard the lambs the way it has been passed from Jesus to Peter and onward. No more should the church stray from its true orgins and should strive to build upon the rock that is the foundations of our church.

Cardinal Edward K. Braxton
Leader of the Roman Catholic Church of CL
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St. Louis Cathedral, New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
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Official Statement from the Imperial Government of CL

Any attempts to assinate any papal candidates by any nation shall not only be seen by an attack on the Roman Catholic Church of CL, it will be seen as an attack on Communist Louisiana and will be dealt with militarily if need be.

We shall and will not permit any foreign nation to impead on the religion of our ancestors as well as our current people as well as the religion of billions of other faithful servents of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I also do think that a temporary military treaty by the governments which the nations whos Cardinals are involved may act as a deterent to any nations wishing to hurt our nations spiritual leaders.

Premier Daniel C. Dufour
Premier of the CCP of CL
New Orleans, Louisiana, CL
Faithful Roman Catholic of CL

I was speaking primarily of Marcus Caius Junius and Sergei Kreshnev. Their statements seemed to be in more of a mocking tone then a serious one.

First of all, I am not nominating myself for your Papal position, as I am not a follower of your "Christ" Jesus or his teachings. I am a figure of high religious power in the Islamic community. I just would like to voice my support for Micheal O'Malley for pope of your church.

I have had contact with him as my theocratic nation is also in the United Irish Emirates region. He has a religious tolerance that not many Christians do, or any religion for that matter. I feel better relations between our two religions would only strengthen the faiths of the followers that call themselves Christians and Muslims.

I feel Mr. O'Malley is the best choice for Pope because he best examplifies the real meaning of Pontiff, which is "bridge" and he will help build a bridge between the Christian, mainly Catholic, faith and the Islamic faith. Thank you and may Allah bless these precedings.

Cardinal Vascocento fiddled with his cassock and catecharo, and the gold cross around his neck in a chain form, nervously awaiting the beginning of conclave, the holy process which would determine who among the Church of Cardinals of the Roman Catholic Church would become the Supreme Pontiff, Pope, All-Holy Eminence and Speaker of God's Parabel, and in that, Archbishop and leader of the Church of Rome, the largest city in the Vatican national realm. Timiocato, the capital of Pacitalia, was the largest city in the Roman Catholic faith. Thus, it was important that a Pacitalian represent the faith as the leader and guide of it through into the future for at least a substantial period of time.

The two-car motorcade passed down Via Aurelia, one of Rome's most sacred but eternally busy streets. Awash with the golden/taupe paint colour that adorned most Italian structures was this street, dotted with subway station entrances, cafes and stores.

Entering the Vatican, Vascocento stared in awe at the literal holy centrepoint of the Catholic faith, Piazza San Pietro. The piazza lay before his eyes in magnificent splendour, its circulum stretching in a perfect centre around the fountain and obelisk in the centre of the cobblestone ground. To the north was St. Peter's Basilica, where the 117 cardinals of the church would decide who among them would lead the Catholic faith. Vascocento was honoured and humbled to be one of the ten or so top contenders for the race and he smiled as he put on his cap and kissed his cross, and felt the sleek black limousine stop at the front doors to the Basilica. Getting out, he thought to himself for a moment.

He might leave conclave as the next Pope. What a thought.

[ OOC: Who DOESN'T want a Pacitalian to lead the church? COME ON... :p

OOC 2: I'm against Parthia being allowed to assassinate papal candidates. No offence, but there's enough of that going around here - the assassinate-a-leader thing is getting old. ]



OOC: NE and I worked something out over MSN where I unsuccessfully kidnap his cardinal by hijacking his plane. In the end, his cardinal is returned safely after a day or so.

OOC: Okay, that's fine and dandy then.

Arch-Bishop O'Malley would like to thank Clergyman Ackmed for his kind support, and also point out that none of the peaceful balance we manage to maintain in the United Irish Emirates would be possible without the continued efforts of Clergyman Ackmed to restrain his own following as Arch-Bishop O'Malley must do with his own.

Without both groups being committed to the peace process, it can not suceed and would not suceed. Arch-Bishop O'Malley would once more offer his thanks and appreciation for Clergyman Ackmed's blessing and continued effort to maintain our fair region.

(OCC: I would prefer not to kidnapped or attacked. I am bringing a small special forces unit from the United Police Force, with equal representation from both the Islamic and Catholic countries of the UIE. They are highly trained and will fight if attacked.)

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Here is the latest picture of Cardinal Vascocento.

Religiopolitical Dossier: Primo Girulamo Cardinal Vascocento

Religious History
Birthdate: 24 September 1940
Birthplace: Mandragora, Beracanto province, Pacitalia
Baptised into the Catholic faith: 2 October 1940
Became altar boy: 1 February 1958
Became church rector: 5 October 1967
Became priest: 15 August 1983
Elevated to bishop: 28 January 1988
Elevated to Archbishop of Mandragora: 6 June 1995
Elevated to Cardinal of Beracanto province: 11 August 2000

Political Spectrum Analysis
Economic Left/Right: +0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.50
(Centrist libertarian)

Beliefs
The church should bring people to the faith, not turn them away because of their sexual or religious preferences.
Same-sex marriage should not be a matter for the church - let the governments decide whether its legal in their country. Protests by the church can by all means continue, but in that, the church should help governments push for gay rights that all parties will be satisfied with, such as level ground by the use of "civil unions".
The church needs to embrace poorer nations embracing Catholicism - we must treat them as equals, or else they will feel cheated or betrayed and the damage may be irreversible.
The church should support social capitalism - pro-economic but pro-human rights policies in certain governments with substantial Roman Catholic populations.
Catholicism should be an enjoyable faith - other Christian denominations are growing in numbers because they make having a faith fun. We can do this while maintaining the traditional customs of the church.

OOC: Sorry for the shortish post.

IC:

We would like to announce our support the Doomingslandian Candiate to that end we will be sending Cardinal Delange, who is the Holy See's representative in the Guilds to this conference in order to supplement this action.

We have seen many nations fall to lax clergy, whom do not crack down on heretics or unbelievers, thus we would remind you that Cardinal Delange has been with the Guilder Catholic Church since it's inception 30 years ago and was instrumental in the mass conversions and the foundations of the Inquisition/Witch Hunters.

We feel he is more than qualified to lend his considerable theological weight to the proceedings.

We expect he will be welcome as a true Catholic,

For God and Saint Peter,

-Random Guilder Lay Clerk

While Arch-Bishop O'Malley agrees with many of the Primo Girulamo Cardinal Vascocento positions, he feels it will be difficult to "make the faith more fun" without losing some of the traditions that make the Church great. Perhaps Cardinal Vascocento could explain further what he means.

Just look at the Baptists, the Evangelicals and the Episcopalians. That's what I mean.

Cardinal Vascocento

OOC: I'm looking at them. I see non-Catholics. And may I ask, does anyone know when this confrence is scheuled for?

Hello my name is Rabbi Nall from the region Nalland. I have had personal experiences with Cardinal Vascocento regarding inter-church matters and to be frank I was very disapointed in these dealings. The cardinal was not willing to take another seriously and was a radical extremest of his own faith in the most unhealthy way. While I have never had the oppurtunity to work with Cardinal O'Malley personally, from reading his extensive writings on human rights and inter-church relations I think it clear I speak for the 20 plus countries of the region Nallandwhen I say I absolutely endorse Cardinal O'Malley as the next Holy Father, mainly because of Cardinal Vascocento's blatant disrespect and lack of tact; two qualities necessary to the position of a leader of any church. Thank for your time.

OOC: I'm pretty sure you have no idea who Cardinal Vascocento is - he's probably the greatest figure to represent the Roman Catholic Church in a looooooong time. You're an April 05 nation... how would you know anything? It's pretty stupid of you to make that judgment.

Lack of tact? Bahaha...

IC

I apologise to those of the Catholic faith if my beliefs on progressing the Church offend them. All I want is for the church to survive, remaining traditionalist will not do that. We need to move with what the people want, not stick to our 1600-year-old guns.

Cardinal Vascocento

Hello my name is Rabbi Nall from the region Nalland. I have had personal experiences with Cardinal Vascocento regarding inter-church matters and to be frank I was very disapointed in these dealings.

OOC: Next time you want to godmode meeting with one of my leaders, why don't you let me know in advance. I have never seen your nation in my life, how would Vascocento even meet with you? It doesn't make sense. And why is a Jewish person endorsing a person of a different faith?

Due to unexpected health considerations Cardinal Sununu is dropping out of contention, and has placed his support behind Cardinal Vascocento. The Archbishop would further like to add that while healthy criticism is vital in the Church, unneccessary denigration of candidates should be frowned upon.

Cardinal Junius' V-68 VIP transport touched down in Rome, and he was quickly wisked through customs and into an armored limo. He had a six-man security detail, Holy Legionnaires. These men were a part of his private army that he used, with the permission of the Emperor, to route out and cleanse the heretics that inhabbitted his homeland.

He himself had a military background, fighting under the Emperor before he came to power, and helping him overthrow the corrupt Stalinist government.

In the meantime, he would be staying in the Vatican to await the meeting.

OOC:

Here's a short bio of the good cardinal (using Pac's template, I hope you don't mind)-

Date of Birth- June 7, 1929
Baptized- June 9, 1929
Became Deacon- April 1, 1950
Bcame Priest- May 29, 1955
Became Bishop- December 1, 1969
Became Patriarch of Doomingsland and Cardinal- October 31, 1991
Founded Holy Inquisition- November 1, 1991
Founded Holy Legion- November 1, 1991

Beliefs-

-The Church has grown far too soft, and has allowed itself to be infiltrated by heretics
-The Church must reestablish an Inquisition in order to counter this threat
-Homosexuality in itself is a sin, and should be punished as so
-Catholic nations should band together for the greater good of Christiandom
-Those who seek to make Catholosism "enjoyable" by eliminating Church tradition and allowing the Infidel to continue to do damage to the Faith are heretics, and should be punished as so
-Believes the Church should expand itself through the conquests of Faithfull nations
-The Church should support Capitalist Imperialism- pro-economic, anti-heathen policies in all nations

(Assume my guy is in VC already.)

OOC: I'm sorry for the slightly misguided attempt at an endorsement. My friend just got on recently, and he wanted to help me. I am also already in VC. My bio:

Religious History
Birthdate: 9 March 1944
Birthplace: New Dublin, County Dublin, Dominion of Protocoach
Baptised into the Catholic faith: 10 March 1944
Became altar boy: 15 January 1952
Became priest: 15 July 1974
Elevated to bishop: 20 August 1988
Elevated to Archbishop of the UIE: 12 October 2002

Political Spectrum Analysis
Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.95
(Leftist Libertarian)

Beliefs
The Church should become an over-all more inclusive group, while still heeding scripture and tradition.
The Church should not become a copy of other Christian denominations to win over believers. It should maintain its traditions.
The Church should work more in developing nations with large Catholic populations, especially as pertains to increasing their representation in the church.
The Church should take a strong stand on all civil-rights violations, including those committed against any members of any other religion.
The Church should attempt to find more common ground and open lines of communications to its brethren in other religions, especially the Abrahamic faiths, Judaism and Islam.
The Church should not turn back to the bad old days of "rooting out heretics", and killing members of other faiths or supposed "enemies of the faith" from within its own ranks.
The Church should not expand its size through conquest of nations but rather through conquest of the soul, convincing others to join of their own God-given free will.
The Church should not support strongly pro-imperialist policies that can be damaging to poorer regions of the earth.

We wish to nominate Cardinal Mendez of Hammers Slammers capital provinces for the position of pope.

Arch-Bishop O'Malley would like to welcome Cardinal Mendez of Hammers Slammers, and ask him to please enunciate his positions on various issues. Welcome to the process!

"Now this is Bull shit..where is Black, Asians and the other races groups of the world..Why only white people?"said Press Minister- Fidel Almeida Roque (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Ottoman01/chris.jpg)

[OOC: Sorry about the late post. Will there be a new thread for the conference?]

Cardinal du Plessis has arrived at the Vatican from Rouen, and has released a short dossier similar to those already given.

Religious History
Birthdate: 15 June 1954
Birthplace: Rouen, France
Baptised into the Catholic faith: 17 June 1954
Became scribe: 23 February 1962
Became chevalier of the Order of the Rosy Cross: 10 November 1974
Became member of the AMORC: 10 November 1978
Became priest: 17 June 1980
Elevated to Bishop of Rouen: 20 June 1987
Elevated to Cardinal by Pontiff John-Paul the II: 16 December 1991
Became Comte under Emperor Raphael Cedolin: 15 June 2004

Beliefs
We must accept that while indeed the pontiff is the divine mediator between God and his people, the Catholic Churhc, the individual elements of the Church have fallen into much decay under this pretense that the Church as a whole is infallible. I am setting a core principle to weeding out the corruption within the church that soils the good name of God and Catholics. Long has the Church descrediting organizations such as the AMORC and the Masonic Lodges, but only in fear. We must realize that it is the corruption and power seeking that is bringing down the Church from its divine mandate under God.
Furthermore, we must now devout ourselves to the practice of Catholicism furtherfold, because of a seeming lax perhaps. While perhaps not all words of the holy texts are taken verbatim, this is not a simple request to devote to Dogma. We do not seek sheep, but minds who will contribute further to a fuller mission of the Catholic community to bind Church and Individual in civic life and ethic.
Movements of further living to the life handed down in tradition to us in the model of the Christ as Savior and Redeemer must now be held mroe sacred and seriously. We must not instead of devoting perhaps to esoteric concepts as Heaven, which is clearly defined, instead focus on perhaps how living a good life leads to such awards. Long have I seen a focus in the Catholic world based on fear. But fear of God and fear of Hell are mutually exclusive. We have forgotten that dedication to God comes before fear of hell-fire that will devour us. We have forgotten that by devoting ourselves to God we evade hell-fire all together.
As a final afterthought, structural reform of the Church is required to eliminate the large administrative waste and bureacracy that further adds to corruption. So many funding straights of money are wasted to endless pits that need to be cut off like a cancer, and to allow the Church to survive, we must streamline our structure to create a much more efficient, and authoritative system that will create a new sense of authority and respect to the papacy across the world.

Bump - are we still doing this?