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Building of an Army

Exrenia
31-03-2005, 01:37
DISCLAIMER: This is a semi-public broadcast to all leaders of their nations willing to participate in helping a small empire build the perfect army to combat enemies of freedom.

Exrenia is a small empire, recently founded by emperor Aiyer Mascrida. Recently, he is needing help in building an military fit for defense and (only if all the options point to) war. I, Ivalice Renault, Weapons General of the Military, extend to you an offer.

In return for any military funding or production of units to our nation, you will become an ally to our nation. We will send to you any aid equal or lesser to you, depending on your situation.

Our two main needs are in infantry and air force. Mechanized divisions are a secondary concern, and some navy is needed for our large river (the Nakarta River) and even larger lake. Mostly, our land is a wiry mesh of forest to the north, and jungle to the south, with some dispersed grass lands that dot the landscape, as well as small mountains. The Nakarta river runs through the middle of our empire, with the large Enovan lake in the center of the river, with some smaller rivers and streams along the two bodies of water.

With this idea in place, I hope that you will extend your aid to us. We thank you for your concern.

~Ivalice Renault, Arms Master of Exrenia and Weapons General of the Military
Nation of Fortune
31-03-2005, 01:45
The Mercenary State of Nation of Fortune has excellent schools (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406100&page=1&pp=15) for training soldiers. We would be willing to take some of your soliders on when we start classes again soon. We will specifically train your students so you too will be able to open similar schools.
Basque Spain
31-03-2005, 01:48
we send one A-bomb for your sciencetists to study
Basque Spain
31-03-2005, 01:50
we will watch you though
Verghastinsel
31-03-2005, 02:03
The Republic of Verghastinsel is willing to provide armaments and vehicles for use by the Armed Forces of Exrenia. A discount of 15% will be provided on all purchases from Verghastinsel Armaments (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8568748#post8568748) by Exrenia, due to the urgent requirement.

Obergruppenführer Hermann Schroeder
Defence Minister
Nebarri_Prime
31-03-2005, 02:17
though we dont have the ecuiptment to give you we can train your solders and pilots (we have very good pilots and ok solders)

you can also enter the Deltan Allience we protect and suport each other
Nation of Fortune
31-03-2005, 02:29
though we dont have the ecuiptment to give you we can train your solders and pilots (we have very good pilots and ok solders)

you can also enter the Deltan Allience we protect and suport each other
He could send his pilots to you, as we don't have a strong airforce in any way. But we have superb soldiers
Cadillac-Gage
31-03-2005, 02:41
DISCLAIMER: This is a semi-public broadcast to all leaders of their nations willing to participate in helping a small empire build the perfect army to combat enemies of freedom.

Exrenia is a small empire, recently founded by emperor Aiyer Mascrida. Recently, he is needing help in building an military fit for defense and (only if all the options point to) war. I, Ivalice Renault, Weapons General of the Military, extend to you an offer.

In return for any military funding or production of units to our nation, you will become an ally to our nation. We will send to you any aid equal or lesser to you, depending on your situation.

Our two main needs are in infantry and air force. Mechanized divisions are a secondary concern, and some navy is needed for our large river (the Nakarta River) and even larger lake. Mostly, our land is a wiry mesh of forest to the north, and jungle to the south, with some dispersed grass lands that dot the landscape, as well as small mountains. The Nakarta river runs through the middle of our empire, with the large Enovan lake in the center of the river, with some smaller rivers and streams along the two bodies of water.

With this idea in place, I hope that you will extend your aid to us. We thank you for your concern.

~Ivalice Renault, Arms Master of Exrenia and Weapons General of the Military

speaking as one small nation to another, I would recommend you focus your efforts on the fundamentals. in other words, don't go haring off after the newest, shiniest, most expensive gear you can afford. Focus on the basics:

1. Supplying the force you intend. Generally, it's good to have a support/combatant ratio of five to one. An emphasis on being able to supply the forces you intend to have, will keep you from getting caught pants-down halfway through an operation. Supporting Assets are critical.

2. Define your needs. 70 ton Main Battle tanks aren't much good if you don't have bridges at home that only hold 20. They also aren't all that good in mountainous jungle terrain with deep marshes and heavy forest canopy. Likewise, Helicopter Air-Assault units don't do very well on open-plains where visibility is miles wide. Define your needs, define the capabilities you need. An Island nation might be better served, for instance, with a strong Navy and Marine Corps, a landlocked nation probably would do better with a Mechanized army (terrain and infrastructure permitting).

3. Define the level of incompetence. depending on what your needs are, how far down the chain do you want Initiative to begin? Is it the fireteam, squad, Platoon, Company, BAttalion? the more centralized your command structure, the more immediate direction you have, but the more vulnerable you are to losing a command-post. On the other hand, a more decentralized command structure means you have more flexibility, but you have to 'tolerate' more independent actions at lower levels on the chain of command. Depending on your governing style, this could mean that your Dictator is a dictator only in name, (Decentralized command) and vulnerable to coup attempts, while a more centralized army c3 leaves you vulnerable to a craftier, more flexible, less centralized opponent.

Your command structure in your military will, to a small effect, have an impact on how your Country is governed, and what your leadership is practically able to do domestically. This is sometimes referred to as the Axis of Decision.

4. You've defined your needs, seen to your supplies, and now, you're ready to build your army. Okay, here's the fun part: what Strategic doctrine do you favour? A lot of players in NS seem to favour the 1950's era Chinese "Massed Wave" assault style, others prefer the "Meatgrinder" style (massed bombardment at the advancing hordes...), still others prefer a more flexible and modern technique based on NATO, U.S., or Soviet Doctrines.
To a certain extent, Doctrine dictates equipment, see?
If your training doctrine (handled under "Support" and "Axis of Decision") emphasizes marksmanship, you may find that the AK-47, while inexpensive, is probably not the rifle you want your soldiers to use. Further, you may find that if you went "Minimum" on maintenance/support issues, the M-16 series is probably not the right rifle. From your rifle all else flows, because the infantry grunt is the root of any army.
Tanks need to fit your doctrine too-if you don't intend to travel far, and do expect to fight in urban areas a lot, slow, heavily armoured tanks like the Merkava are probably a better option than something like an Abrams or T-80.
Likewise, if your doctrine is "Echelon" like the Soviets, you don't really need four men to a tank to handle field repairs, or the ability to fight "Hull down"-so a Soviet style tank is probably better for your needs, whereas if you expect your tank crews to be somewhat independent, you might want to forego the autoloader and go with a western-style design that allows one man to overwatch while the crew pulls field maintenance tasks like breaking track.
(Note: IN spite of the hype, autoloader tanks don't fire any more quickly than a well-trained nineteen year old can sling shell, and most suffer from requirements in firing that doesn't allow for as much flexibility in engagement style or type. they do allow you to put more iron in the field per man, but that may not be a major issue for your needs.)

The worst thing you can do in designing your army, is to take a massive hodge-podge of "Neat toys" that don't necessarily work together.
imported_ViZion
31-03-2005, 04:59
ViZion is prepared to provide you with $10 billion USD for your military forces, as well as providing you with four aircraft carriers and 25 F-22's free of charge to help jump-start your nations military. We will, however, require that we have final say in how the $10 billion USD is used.

We look forward to heard from you shortly, and improve relations between our two nations.

Thank you,

Head of Defense John Hystan
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Secret Encrypted Message to Ivalice Renault
We with to offer you a grand deal! We are willing to build you two nuclear silos, and arm them with six nuclear missiles each. However, in exchange, we require the ability to build one ViZionarian military base, and reserve the right to build a second one, in the location of our choice.

We do hope this will be accepted, and we look forward to great strides of diplomacy between our nations in the near and far future!

President Maybury
Ancient and Holy Terra
31-03-2005, 05:12
To: The Sovereign Nation of Exrenia
From: The Desk of Emperor Kamiya, Leader of the Republic of Ancient Terra

The Republic of Ancient Terra is always eager to assist younger nations in jump starting development, and ensuring their security and rights to self-governance.

We currently have thousands of surplus military vehicles at 'mothball' facilities around the nation. To assist in your army's development, we will freely donate 180 M113 APCs, 80 M60A3 Patton MBTs, 40 F-16/D, and 4 Kilo-class Diesel Submarines.

We have also ordered 48 brand new Mi-26 'Halo' Helicopters from the Mil Helicopter Company's Terran Contracts Branch. We believe that these helicopters will greatly increase your nation's capabilities.

Finally, we offer two more things. One, we are willing to provide free training and small-arms equipment to two brigades of infantry, to augment their abilities. We will also train however many drivers and technicians you require to operate the vehicles we have donated to you. Finally, we will dedicate three imaging satellites to your personal use for a period of 5 years, for use in any capability you deem necessary, excluding surveillance of Ancient Terra or her allies.

Good hunting,

~Emperor Kamiya~
Mationland
31-03-2005, 13:07
The Armed Republic Of Mationland is willing to send 10 battalions of troops(1000 soldiers in each battalion) , 4 divisions of tanks (100 tanks in each division) , 5 teams of M-Crack Troopers (specially armed , special techniques and top notch) (10 M-Crack Troopers in each team) and 5 airborne contingents (each contingent consists of 10 helicopters , 10 Fighter Planes (F-16) and 20 Heavy Weapons Bombers (able to carry bombs,biological and nuclear bombs)) . For that , we request that you provide us with a suitable number of airfields , space (for tents) and several large warhouses (for tanks) , they must be near to each other . We also request to be an ally with you . We will send our ambassador , James F. Craig who is a former General to your nation . Following him will be 50 M-Crack troopers and 10 Personal Bodygaurds .

Your's Sincerely ,
Mationland Minister Of Foriegn Affairs
and
Mationland Minister Of War
and
M-Crack Tropers , SWAT teams Head
and
Mationland Chief Of Staff
and
Mationland Chief Of Ambassadors
with FULL support of his majesty ,
Dictator Of Mationland .

Extra Addition :
In addition , Mationland is willing to build 2 Multi-Operatioal Silos , armed with 5 Nuclear and 10 Biological Missiles Each ! For this , we request at least 100 hectares of land to built a Military Base there . This will benefit you because we will be able to help you in times of war . Any threat to you is ours too !
Exrenia
01-04-2005, 02:04
To: Nation of Fortune

That is an exquisite plan. I will send my own son (Edrias Renault) for your training program. Please inform me of his progress once he starts. As for personal training of our nations troops, we thank and accept any training your soldiers can offer.
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To: Basque Spain

Thank you for the atomic bomb. Our researchers will study it to maximize capability and minimize environmental damage. We will allow you constant supervision of our studies.
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To: Verghastinsel

The discount on your storefront is much appreciated, I will be sure to observe it's contents.
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To: Nebarri_Prime

I accept the training your pilots can give to our air force. They will be beneficial, indeed.
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To: Cadillac_Gage

I thank you for your wisdom. You are truly wise in the field of battle. Your words shall be kept for future generations.
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To: Ancient and Holy Terra

Your equipment, vehicles, and training are all welcome to us. For the two brigades you are teaching, we request that one half of a brigade be taught in CQC (Close Quarters Combat) and small arms, for protection of Emperor Aiyer Mascrida, and the other in heavy arms, should he be under attack of any enemy vehicle. He will be most pleased. As for the other brigade, train them for jungle, forested, and mountain combat, as that is what our terrain mostly consists of. The satellites will be of great asset to us. Thank you for your generous offer.
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To: Mationland

We thank you for your generous donation of infantry and equipment. We will provide you with the necessities for your givings. For the nuclear capabilities, we refrain from using any biological weapon against human kind. We will, however, accept the two missile silo's with five nukes each. You may keep the biological warheads. You're 100 hectares of land for your base will be near the capital capital city of Jovae, with minor surveillance on our part.
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To: ViZion

Your donation of funds and naval forces is greatly appreciated. You will have the final say on how we should spend the $10,000,000,000 USD's you have given us.
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Secret Encrypted Message to President Maybury
We accept the two silos with six missiles in each one. You will be granted permission to build a military base anywhere on our land and you also reserve the rights to a second one if the need arises.

~Sincerely, Ivalice Renault
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TO ALL NATIONS WHO HAVE HELPED OR WILL HELP
You each are granted permission to build an embassy on Exrenian grounds if we can agree on an acceptable location for their placement if you wish. You may also build a military base if we both deem it necessary. I thank you all for your generosity and help, and we hope that we will strive to work towards a perfect future!

~Ivalice Renault, Arms Master of Exrenia and Weapons General of the Military
Nation of Fortune
01-04-2005, 02:05
OOC: the sign up thread for the new one is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8578657#post8578657)
Thechya
01-04-2005, 02:20
The Holy Empire of Thechya's Master of Defence would like to express his outrage at this free passing of weapons, INCLUDING NUCLEAR ARMS, to this growing nation! Our Empire does not support it, and any and all trade will nations involved will cease immediantly, as endorsed by our Master of Commerce.

The Holy Empire of Thechya will be further observing this matter.

-The Holy Empire of Thechya
Region: The Theocratic Alliance
imported_ViZion
01-04-2005, 04:04
To: ViZion

Your donation of funds and naval forces is greatly appreciated. You will have the final say on how we should spend the $10,000,000,000 USD's you have given us.
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Secret Encrypted Message to President Maybury
We accept the two silos with six missiles in each one. You will be granted permission to build a military base anywhere on our land and you also reserve the rights to a second one if the need arises.

~Sincerely, Ivalice Renault

We are very glad to hear back from you. We look forward to helping improve your military forces greatly!
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Secret Encrypted Message to Ivalice Renault
Very good. We are glad to hear this. We will prepare a team to begin construction immediately of our base and your two silos.

President Maybury
imported_ViZion
01-04-2005, 04:08
The Holy Empire of Thechya's Master of Defence would like to express his outrage at this free passing of weapons, INCLUDING NUCLEAR ARMS, to this growing nation! Our Empire does not support it, and any and all trade will nations involved will cease immediantly, as endorsed by our Master of Commerce.

The Holy Empire of Thechya will be further observing this matter.

-The Holy Empire of Thechya
Region: The Theocratic Alliance
OOC: As for the nuclear arms part, I do hope you're not refering to my secret IC message offering silo's and missiles, as secret IC means only the person I'm talking to, being Exrenia, knows about the message aside from me, as I made the message.
IC:
I beg your pardon, but we have the right to help a small nation build its defenses up. And we have heard of no nations sending the nation of Exrenia nuclear arms. However, there is a nation sending bombers that can potentially HOLD such devistating bombs. But, it will likely be holding conventional bombs as they do not have the ability to build such weapons, and no nuclear bombs have been sent to them to our knowledge.

Thank you,

President Maybury
Cadillac-Gage
01-04-2005, 04:18
To: Ivalice Renault
From: Suse Randall, Director of External Affairs, Cadillac Gage
RE: Embassies.

We would like to take you up on your offer of Ambassadorial exchange. We will only need a two story building (three with a basement) roughly 5000 sq. floor area set on a quarter acre. Our embassies are relatively small, compact affairs with small staff requirements. (generally Embassy staff will tend to be around thirty people, with perhaps three times that in dependents.) We can offer you up to two acres in the Capital city with good drainage and utilities complete-this is so that you can design your representative building to your own tastes, without fear of being 'bugged' or wiretapped.
Thechya
01-04-2005, 04:29
The Holy Empire was referring to the gift of an atomic bomb to this nation for study. Still, our empire does not improve, and again, we will be watching this situation closely.

-The Holy Empire of Thechya
Region: The Theocratic Alliance
The Scandinvans
01-04-2005, 04:45
We are willing to send some of our naval, military, and air force training officers to help train your armies and also give you access to some of weapon and military vehicle schematics.
Nebarri_Prime
01-04-2005, 04:49
ok in order to train your pilots we need to know how many pilots we need to train so we can order them properly
Harlesburg
01-04-2005, 06:31
To:Exrenia minister namely Ivalice Renault, Arms Master of Exrenia and Weapons General of the Military
From:Minister of Defence Rupert The Red Duke Of York

The Harlesburg Military has deemed its current Medium-Light Battle Tank The Scorpion curently unacceptable for the purposes required by the Harlesburg Military forces so we would be prepared to on-sell them to your nation if you find this acceptable!

Minister of Defence Rupert The Red Duke Of York
Minister Of Trade Al Embargo
In Honour of Edward The Phoenix Duke De Harlesburg
Lord Of The Confederacy Of Harlesburg
Ancient and Holy Terra
02-04-2005, 02:17
Your two brigades are currently being trained in the methods you specified by crack Terran Infantry.

At the moment, your CQC/Anti-Tank Brigade is being trained by the 8th Infantry Division, the famous 'Terran Shield'. The 8th has been in existence for over 120 years, and they have spent 90% of that time defending the capital of Ancient Terra, and in particular the Emperor. They have extensive CQC and Heavy Arms experience. This brigade is being equipped with M-16 rifles, some of which have the M203 grenade launcher attachment. They are also being supplied with the extremely modern 'Dragon' Anti-Tank Missile System and several shotguns. We have incorporated 200 Humvees into your brigade, and these vehicles have been uparmored and equipped with .50 Caliber Machine Guns or Automatic Grenade Launchers. Finally, we have decided to donate 40 M3A2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles equipped with Stinger Missiles, to give your forces an added punch during streetfighting. The troops' skills are being extensively focused towards breaching buildings, setting traps, and in large-unit bodyguard deploments.

Your second brigade has been taken to the new Ancient Terran Diverse Environment Training Facility (ATDETF) located in Golem Jungles near the ocean.Here they are being trained in silent movement, reconaissance, camoflauge, jungle warfare, setting traps, ambushes, and the dangers of operating in areas with heavy foliage. They will transfer for 4 weeks to the Titan Mountain Range to train in Mountain Combat before returning to ATDETF. This brigade is being trained by General Imagi and his 4th Division, the unit that orchestrated an 8-division hunt through the jungles for the Terrorist Group 'The Core'. They have extensive experience in this form of combat, and 70% of the troops in this division grew up in these areas. The ATDETF has a full medical facility to cope with training injuries, but our instructors are very skilled and we don't anticipate any serious injuries.

The Brigades will be returned to Exrenia within 3 months, and we hope that the Emperor is very pleased with them. Furthermore, we wish to take you up on your offer for an embassy facility. If possible, we require two acres of land, though we can scale this back to one without cutting many facilities. You have been offered a 3-acre plot of land on Embassy Street in Tellerus, with self-contained plumbing, electricity, and communications systems.