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Hogsweat calls for WORLWIDE Embargo against Farmina! ATTENTION WORLD

Hogsweat
30-03-2005, 04:00
Leaders of the World Today,

The Nation of Farmina has violated hundreds of human rights laws ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635) in an act today that has astonished the free world.

We hereby declare, as a member of the United Nations, and a Freedom Loving state, that the nation of Farmina is a terrorist nation that is willling to commit acts of terrorism to oppress it's people and the people of the world.

We hereby declare, as a sovereign nation and a Freedom Loving state, an Economic Embargo against Farmina. In addition we hereby do declare, as of 29th March, 2005, that a State of War Exists between the sovereign nation of Farmina and the Union of Soviet Socialist Hogsweatian Republics as of the desperate and disgusting acts of terrorism commited by the illegal Farminan govermnent. ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635 )

The USSHR asks, pledges, all nations of the world to follow suit with the Trade Embargo against the evil nation of Farmina.

Thank you.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

Nations Signing the Embargo
Hogsweat
Drizzts Army
Credonia
Zelsa
Hstrovokia
Freedom Exterminated
The Phoenix Milita
Kriegorgrad
Celtayoshi
Farmina
30-03-2005, 04:10
OOC: Have you read the Farminan politics thread?

IC:
How absurd, it is you who is oppressive good sir, not we. If there is no economic freedom there can be no freedom at all. Furthermore we are well within the law, as passed by a democratically elected body.

We laugh your threats, and are mildly suprised that a socialist nation believes in trade, so that it can embargo it.

Finally, DVDs of the mass execution are on sale for 30 Harens if you wish a copy.

Emperor Justinian
Acting Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs
Drizzts Army
30-03-2005, 04:11
[Statement from Drizzts Army]

The Greek Party of Drizzts Army and its legislature agreed to press this embargo on Farmina, due to violating U.N. human rights laws. All trade with Farmina is now halted, trade ships heading to Farmina shall be stopped and anybody caugh trading with Farmina shall be arrested from here on out.

However, even if Drizzts Army passes this embargo, we shall not interfer(sp?) with the war between Farmina and Hogsweat. We can only pray and hope that the conflict at hand shall be resolved quickly without taking many innocent human lives.

May Farmina be brough to justice for violating Natural Rights
The Parthians
30-03-2005, 04:14
Again the forces of liberal scum have been defeated by the holy and blessed nation of Farmina. We will fully support them in their time of need.

-Shah Khosru III
Hogsweat
30-03-2005, 04:14
A democratic body of puppets controlled by wealthy Farminan nobles and such other morally disgusting titles, most likely. Farmina's "democracy" is nothing but a puppet show for the world to see while the real owners of the should-be-free nation of Farmina wither and die in inhumane conditions.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

OOC - No. haven't had a chance, you got a link? I gotta dash now... it's damn late. =.=
Farmina
30-03-2005, 04:17
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=407708

There are heaps of threads that build up to this, but you don't need to know.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 04:23
Again the forces of liberal scum have been defeated by the holy and blessed nation of Farmina. We will fully support them in their time of need.

-Shah Khosru III

We thank Shah Khosru III for his benovent and kind promise of assistance.

Emperor Justinian
Farmina
30-03-2005, 04:42
[Statement from Drizzts Army]

The Greek Party of Drizzts Army and its legislature agreed to press this embargo on Farmina, due to violating U.N. human rights laws. All trade with Farmina is now halted, trade ships heading to Farmina shall be stopped and anybody caugh trading with Farmina shall be arrested from here on out.

However, even if Drizzts Army passes this embargo, we shall not interfer(sp?) with the war between Farmina and Hogsweat. We can only pray and hope that the conflict at hand shall be resolved quickly without taking many innocent human lives.

May Farmina be brough to justice for violating Natural Rights

Are you sure you wish to sacrifice trade with us? We don't have any use for you, but Farmina has plenty of cheap manufacturable industries. The reality is we aren't that interested in your opinion.

We also deny the existence of the concept of rights, although we do the best we can by our people. For more information please read Professor Walter's "The Myth of Rights."

Emperor Justinian
Macisikan
30-03-2005, 05:32
His Imperial Majesty's Government chooses to remain neutral in this matter, neither supporting or condemning this development, and refusing direct involvement.
Credonia
30-03-2005, 05:38
Official Statement from the Credonian State Department

"As a nation dedicated to the preservation of human and civil rights and liberties, Credonia can and must only side with its ally Hogsweat in protest of the unspeakable atrocities carried out by the Farminian government. Credonia has been and will continue to be a staunch advocate to human rights and civil liberties and we are disgusted that a nation would stoop so low as to commit such violations of its citizens god given rights and civil liberties. Because of this, Credonia declares all relations between the United States and Farmina severed. Credonia furthermore declares that and and all goods sold to Farmina from Credonia are in direct violation of the trade embargo being put into action, effective immediately. Any and all goods that are shipped to Credonia coming from the nation of Farmina will be immediately seized and considered contraband and will be put under control of the Credonian government, which will, at the appropriate point in time, determine what will be done with the confiscated Farminian goods.

Credonia stands side by side with its ally Hogsweat and supports any and all actions taken against the Farmianian government, whether it be economic of military and we will render all available assistance to further its just cause."

Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia
Farmina
30-03-2005, 06:22
Official Statement from the Credonian State Department

"As a nation dedicated to the preservation of human and civil rights and liberties, Credonia can and must only side with its ally Hogsweat in protest of the unspeakable atrocities carried out by the Farminian government. Credonia has been and will continue to be a staunch advocate to human rights and civil liberties and we are disgusted that a nation would stoop so low as to commit such violations of its citizens god given rights and civil liberties. Because of this, Credonia declares all relations between the United States and Farmina severed. Credonia furthermore declares that and and all goods sold to Farmina from Credonia are in direct violation of the trade embargo being put into action, effective immediately. Any and all goods that are shipped to Credonia coming from the nation of Farmina will be immediately seized and considered contraband and will be put under control of the Credonian government, which will, at the appropriate point in time, determine what will be done with the confiscated Farminian goods.

Credonia stands side by side with its ally Hogsweat and supports any and all actions taken against the Farmianian government, whether it be economic of military and we will render all available assistance to further its just cause."

Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia

They broke the law, what did you expect us to do, give them a hat and send them on their way?

Emperor Justinian
Zelsa
30-03-2005, 06:24
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Although we have little influence, and absolutely no trade, or trade possibilities with this nation, we do, however, affirm our stance against those who perpetrate these gross injustices to humanity. Therefore, we will join this 'embargo' and although it will have little effect, we do this merely to actively voice our opinion on this matter.


We pledge any support necessary to those who are also assisting in this 'embargo', what little support we may provide.


Council of the Prophets of Y
-Official Statement on Behalf of the Holy Republic of Zelsa and its Eternal Creator, the Great Y.



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The Lycan Confederacy
30-03-2005, 06:35
We oppose this, as killing humans is fun.
Mondoth
30-03-2005, 08:14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635

The Nation of Mondoth has withdrawn recognition of Farmina as a sovereign nation and has claimed it as a rogue province, as a state of war exists between Hogsweat and the rebel government of Farmina we are willing to ally ourselves with Hogsweat in order to more effectively bring this blight to heel, together we can easily crush these unholy monsters.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 08:15
We oppose this, as killing humans is fun.

This has nothing to do with fun, this is about maintain society's rights, liberties and dignity, which socialists would have us lose.

Emperor Justinian
Farmina
30-03-2005, 08:17
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Although we have little influence, and absolutely no trade, or trade possibilities with this nation, we do, however, affirm our stance against those who perpetrate these gross injustices to humanity. Therefore, we will join this 'embargo' and although it will have little effect, we do this merely to actively voice our opinion on this matter.


We pledge any support necessary to those who are also assisting in this 'embargo', what little support we may provide.


Council of the Prophets of Y
-Official Statement on Behalf of the Holy Republic of Zelsa and its Eternal Creator, the Great Y.



-

Typical heretics. The Church will see you dealt with.

Emperor Justinian
Vastiva
30-03-2005, 08:36
"Are we still shipping oil to Hogsweat?"
~checks figures from VALOREC~ "Yes, Vizier."
"Are we shipping oil to Farmina?"
"No, Vizier."
"Do we buy anything from Farmina?"
"Not according to the last reports, Vizier."
"Do they buy anything from us?"
"Not according to the last reports, Vizier."
"I see. Very well. Embargo Farmina, include notations to our allies that they will receive... mmm... fifty cents per barrel discount for joining into the embargo. Give Hogsweat a new price per barrel of $22.50 and offer a dollar off that if and when they go to war with Farmina."
"Very well, Vizier."
Evil Woody Thoughts
30-03-2005, 08:48
Leaders of the World Today,

The Nation of Farmina has violated hundreds of human rights laws ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635) in an act today that has astonished the free world.

We hereby declare, as a member of the United Nations, and a Freedom Loving state, that the nation of Farmina is a terrorist nation that is willling to commit acts of terrorism to oppress it's people and the people of the world.

We hereby declare, as a sovereign nation and a Freedom Loving state, an Economic Embargo against Farmina. In addition we hereby do declare, as of 29th March, 2005, that a State of War Exists between the sovereign nation of Farmina and the Union of Soviet Socialist Hogsweatian Republics as of the desperate and disgusting acts of terrorism commited by the illegal Farminan govermnent. ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635 )

The USSHR asks, pledges, all nations of the world to follow suit with the Trade Embargo against the evil nation of Farmina.

Thank you.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

Nations Signing the Embargo
Hogsweat
Drizzts Army

"While the Government of Evil Woody Thoughts does not condone the mass murder of millions, it nevertheless believes that, as the evil nation of Farmina is not a member of the United Nations, it is exempt from the laws and resolutions of the United Nations. As such, while we believe it imprudent to go to war, and do not have any trade with Farmina to embargo, we will offer blanket political asylum to any Farminian citizens who, attempting to escape from this brutal regime, end up on our shores."

Official Statement
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs
The Evil Empire of Evil Woody Thoughts
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 08:58
The Empire will, at this point neither condemn nor condone its ally; Farmina.
However, we wish to make painfully clear to any wana-be invaders that any incursion into Farmina will be seen as an attack on the Empire and will be indiscriminately retaliated to with a full ICBM strike.

Any loss of trade, can be royally compensated for by the Empire, especialy the flow of oil, in which the Empire is so rich. Due to the fact that oil export is now under government control we can offer Farmina oil at $19 per barrel.

However, they are, at once cease any and all liquidation of "criminals" if they so wish to receive our help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/Dumpsterdam/ultramarineslogo.gif

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 09:03
The Empire will, at this point neither condemn nor condone its ally; Farmina.
However, we wish to make painfully clear to any wana-be invaders that any incursion into Farmina will be seen as an attack on the Empire and will be indiscriminately retaliated to with a full ICBM strike.

Any loss of trade, can be royally compensated for by the Empire, especialy the flow of oil, in which the Empire is so rich. Due to the fact that oil export is now under government control we can offer Farmina oil at $19 per barrel.

However, they are, at once cease any and all liquidation of "criminals" if they so wish to receive our help.

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

There shall be no further death penalty in this form or for these crimes. This was a once off measure, to deal with a spate of criminality that got well out of hand.

Farmina has long allowed foriegn human rights inspectors to enter its lands; we shall continue the tradition.

The measures taken were extreme, and if anyone was offended we apologise; but this does not negate the importance of the actions.

Emperor Justinian
Credonia
30-03-2005, 09:25
The Empire will, at this point neither condemn nor condone its ally; Farmina.
However, we wish to make painfully clear to any wana-be invaders that any incursion into Farmina will be seen as an attack on the Empire and will be indiscriminately retaliated to with a full ICBM strike.

Any loss of trade, can be royally compensated for by the Empire, especialy the flow of oil, in which the Empire is so rich. Due to the fact that oil export is now under government control we can offer Farmina oil at $19 per barrel.

However, they are, at once cease any and all liquidation of "criminals" if they so wish to receive our help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/Dumpsterdam/ultramarineslogo.gif

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.


Official Statement Issued by the Credonian State Department

"Credonia questions the wording of such a threat. Seeing as Credonia is a close ally of Dumpsterdam and is preparing to protect your nation from invasion by foreign nations, our government can only wonder if this threat of an ICBM strike extends to us. As you are aware, Credonia continues to voice its condemnation of all acts of violating human and civil rights and liberties, something that the nation of Farmina has not at all denied. As a nation who sides with you and shares some of the same beliefs, it is quite interesting how you are taking a neutral stance while at the same time, indirectly siding with this nation whos government OPENLY violates human rights and infringes upon its citizens civil liberties. Such threats to allies including Credonia can only mean that you agree and condone the actions of Farmina whether your government comes out and says so or not. Please elaborate on this."

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia
Krioval
30-03-2005, 09:31
Hurricane Corinne howled outside the Commander's office as the various Directors did so indoors. "What are we going to do about all this, Commander?" seemed the most common question of the hour.

"First thing's first. Contact all members of the embargo. Krioval will be discounting arms by ten percent to interested nations, possibly more if they can actually fight a decently successful war. Get Parliament to issue a condemnation. In fact, I want Christine Barro and Tomoharu Tanaka to cosponor it, and see if Senator Phillips will add an endorsement. I want three hundred fifty delegates to approve it or don't bother bringing it to the floor."

Koro nodded. "I'd suggest Barro and Phillips cosponsor, and let Representative Tanaka bring it to the floor. Better multiparty support that way."

"Right. Good thinking. Get to it. Oh, and contact Vastiva. Let them know we're interested in a logistical support pact. I'm not sure we can support a full offensive alliance, and they'd probably turn us down anyway."

Kiv spoke next. "Border seal, belligerents aren't to enter Kriovalian waters or airspace, blah blah blah. Embargo nations and those against Farmina excepted, of course. Anything else?"

"Eh. Sounds good. That leaves us with you, Darvek. Keep the riots to a minimum, if you could. Any pro-Farmina protests, not like there'll be many, are to be dispersed on sight, but keep arrests as low as possible. No need to look oppressive. Oh, and freeze any Farminan assets in Krioval."

"Raijin, there aren't any Farminan assets in Krioval."

"Oh. In that case, announce that we're freezing the 'Fund for Better Catholic Relations'."

"What's that?"

"Something I just invented."

"Damn, you're good."

"Yeah, yeah, ya know. Anyway, that leaves the most important task for me."

"Dear" Justinian,

Seeing your kind in action reminds me of why good triumphs over evil. While you sit there and invoke your God while slaughtering millions of babies and old women in public, I am busy running a government that fosters peace and prosperity. That would explain how I have reached a technological level that you can only dream of seeing. But I don't wish to get into those philosophical arguments here.

To make this quicker, Krioval no longer recognizes the legitimacy of your government as a result of the atrocity you have committed. That places Mr. Rickhart in an awkward position. Despite his eagerness to waive rights to counsel and a jury trial, I am unable to connect him to the Bralos bombings. He is, thus, innocent - of those acts anyway. But I can't send him back to you either. Letting him go free is equally unpalatable, as he is a security risk. So I have come to a compromise. You seemed fond of that word a few days ago.

Mr. Rickhart will be questioned until his worth as a source of information is exhausted. He will then be transported an undisclosed location where he will likely spend the rest of his life in captivity, mining ore. His life will be tolerable, and probably better than the median standard of living in your wretched land. The ores he will mine will make their way through our 'pipeline' to a processing facility, where metal will be extracted. The metal will go to an arms manufacturing plant. The arms will be sold to those with whom we have a trade agreement. And if a bullet containing any of that metal should strike true, Mr. Rickhart may actually have his revenge on you.

And by the way, that bottle of 1996 Merlot is crap compared to the 1998 vintage. Just thought you'd like to know.

Lord Raijin Dekker Darklighter, the Light
Commander of Krioval
High Paladin of Solokaro

If only satisfaction came so easy every day.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 09:39
Hurricane Corinne howled outside the Commander's office as the various Directors did so indoors. "What are we going to do about all this, Commander?" seemed the most common question of the hour.

"First thing's first. Contact all members of the embargo. Krioval will be discounting arms by ten percent to interested nations, possibly more if they can actually fight a decently successful war. Get Parliament to issue a condemnation. In fact, I want Christine Barro and Tomoharu Tanaka to cosponor it, and see if Senator Phillips will add an endorsement. I want three hundred fifty delegates to approve it or don't bother bringing it to the floor."

Koro nodded. "I'd suggest Barro and Phillips cosponsor, and let Representative Tanaka bring it to the floor. Better multiparty support that way."

"Right. Good thinking. Get to it. Oh, and contact Vastiva. Let them know we're interested in a logistical support pact. I'm not sure we can support a full offensive alliance, and they'd probably turn us down anyway."

Kiv spoke next. "Border seal, belligerents aren't to enter Kriovalian waters or airspace, blah blah blah. Embargo nations and those against Farmina excepted, of course. Anything else?"

"Eh. Sounds good. That leaves us with you, Darvek. Keep the riots to a minimum, if you could. Any pro-Farmina protests, not like there'll be many, are to be dispersed on sight, but keep arrests as low as possible. No need to look oppressive. Oh, and freeze any Farminan assets in Krioval."

"Raijin, there aren't any Farminan assets in Krioval."

"Oh. In that case, announce that we're freezing the 'Fund for Better Catholic Relations'."

"What's that?"

"Something I just invented."

"Damn, you're good."

"Yeah, yeah, ya know. Anyway, that leaves the most important task for me."



If only satisfaction came so easy every day.

To: Raijin Dekker

You are a fool. The Fascist threat is still alive and well. The Socialists will regroup and strike for power again, it is only a matter of time.

My actions were neccissary and you know it. They were guilty of crimes, and you know it. How dare you condemn, when I know that you plan to convict an innocent man, for your own political purposes.

I also have an inkling what you did to that Senator.

I knew I should never had trusted you Raijin Dekker, you are a politician like all the rest.

Emperor Justinian
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 09:46
If the Credonian goverment so wishes to destroy or so harm the Farminian nation and goverment we have but no other option to side with Emperor Justinian for the time being.

With the current situation on hand the Empire will only side with Farmina so that its plans are not compromised, we will call Farmina to order once we deal with more urgent manners.

We propose to Hogsweat and others(leaving the threat of glass-bowling out of the question) to leave Farmina be, keep any sort of embargo's they have in place and not to resort to military action. The Empire will deal with Farmina, in its own way and form in due time.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/Dumpsterdam/ultramarineslogo.gif

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 09:47
OoC: Oh and Bob, don't ever do this kinda shit to me again just before I plan to unleash world war #435345 okay? Or I may have to let Credonia loose on your nation...
Freedom Exterminated
30-03-2005, 09:56
Presidential Palace, Freedom Exterminated

"Well, that's great..." President Sule sighed. "Hogsweat could at least organise such things more... Carefully. Oh well. Relations with Farmina?"

"None whatsoever."

Claude (The President) looked at the woman in front of him, Faizah Ugande. It wasn't a pleasant view. She was in her fifties, and, while doubtlessly smart, not exactly a beauty, nor a nice character. He sighed, remembering the day she had actually hit him. He wasn't quite certain just why he hadn't had her shot yet, either. Possibly because he feared her.

"So... Apart from blatant hypocrisy, there's nothing we would have a problem with, joining the embargo, yes?"

"Pretty much. Of course..." Faizah hesitated. "Well, I don't like Hogsweat's warlikeness. I mean, we have our own rebels, and while we're about to secure the northern mines... We cannot really afford being drawn into even more conflicts. Besides, Farmina, as well as its allies, namely Dumpsterdam, seem to be Class B civilisations."

"Which is to say, utterly idiotic and hiveminded citizens and attention whores as leaders?"

"Attention whores that kill out of their desire for... Acknowledgement, wanting nothing but to shock, rather than wanting to secure their way. Adolescents lacking any kind of common sense while needing to fap around with their Steel Penii."

Claude sighed. I wish Rehema was here... To think that I once wanted to be President...

"So, we can pretty much ignore them, as their idiocy wont allow for sanity to spread, anyway, yes?"

"Yes."

"Well, ok then. Tell Dorsal that we will support him with what we have available-"

"That's not much."

"I know. That's the point. Then, write a message condemning Farmina. Try not to be insulting. They may be moronic attention whores, but their capacities are somewhat superior to our own."

"I will... Try." Faizah smirked.

"Yes... I sure hope so."

Once Faizah had left the room, Claude Sule could finally concentrate on the more important things. Apparently, the division he had sent to the north was advancing. Things went well, given the reasonably low desertion rates, although the reports about the burning villages and the general behaviour of his soldiers wasn't much to his liking. But then, the world was a harsh place, and perhaps he could use the offspring of their orgies with the locals as resources for the future, be it armed ones or working ones.

Assuming that his 'soldiers' kept the girls alive. Another thing he had to ensure. Tomorrow.

Later

From: The Christian-Socialist Republic of Freedom Exterminated
To: Whoever is interested
Subject: Farmina Embargo

"We of the Christian-Socialist Republic of Freedom Exterminated do, of course, stand with our Comrades from Hogsweat, supporting this embargo against the terrible, evil, godless and bourgeoise regime of Farmina. It has to be stopped. It will be stopped.

For this, we pledge The Union of Soviet Socialist Hogsweatian Republics our support. They will not stand alone in this struggle against the evils of the world.

Sincerely,

~ Claude Sule, Democratically Elected President of Freedom Exterminated
Of course, every even remotely smart person would notice the lack of an actual declaration of war against Farmina. Not that the ones on the other side were likely to notice it, but hey... It just had to look good.
Hrstrovokia
30-03-2005, 10:57
The Hrstrovokian Federal Socialist Republic has decided to follow suit with its close allies Hogsweat and Freedom Exterminated and emplace an economic embargo against Farmina, and will also place sanctions against any state which trades with Farmina for the duration of the embargo which has trade relations with the FSR. Furthermore, the Supreme Soviet of Hrstrovokia has agreed to renounce any recognization of the current Farminan Gov't until elections with a new administration, without a monarchy, are held.

The strategic nuclear forces of Hrstrovokia have been stood on high-alert following the threat made by Dumpsterdam. Land-based ICBMs of the Missile Command have now begun targeting Dumpsterdam forces in Europe* Although we do not wish to provoke or escalate any conflict with Hrstrovokian and Dumpsterdam, we are sworn to the defense of our allies. We hope you understand this, as we do not wish to begin a nuclear standoff.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia

[OOC: * Dumpsterdam forces in Earth3 - those invading the Netherlands.]
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 11:08
The Hrstrovokian Federal Socialist Republic has decided to follow suit with its close allies Hogsweat and Freedom Exterminated and emplace an economic embargo against Farmina, and will also place sanctions against any state which trades with Farmina for the duration of the embargo which has trade relations with the FSR. Furthermore, the Supreme Soviet of Hrstrovokia has agreed to renounce any recognization of the current Farminan Gov't until elections with a new administration, without a monarchy, are held.

The strategic nuclear forces of Hrstrovokia have been stood on high-alert following the threat made by Dumpsterdam. Land-based ICBMs of the Missile Command have now begun targeting Dumpsterdam forces in Europe* Although we do not wish to provoke or escalate any conflict with Hrstrovokian and Dumpsterdam, we are sworn to the defense of our allies. We hope you understand this, as we do not wish to begin a nuclear standoff.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia

[OOC: * Dumpsterdam forces in Earth3 - those invading the Netherlands.]

Understood, no hard feelings. However, your allies have been warned and we will not be backing off. We will stand down our threats if you convince Hogsweat to stand from its military actions against Farmina and lets us handle the Farminians once we have diffused other pressing matters.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/Dumpsterdam/ultramarineslogo.gif

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.
The Phoenix Milita
30-03-2005, 11:22
In a late session, The Phoenix Milita senate has agreed to impose Sanctions against Farmina. A full Embargo against Farmina was considered but it was voted down as there would be too much temptation for civillian buisnesses to violate the embargo. However, as of today all sales of class 1 goods (fuel, weapons, ammo, war goods) to and from Farmina has been banned indefinitely. Also the Coast Guard has suspended transit and docking permits for all TPM based ships to and from Farmina. Land, Sea and Air-Freight of class 2 or lower, and not originating from TPM, will not be afected by the sanctions.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 11:27
The Hrstrovokian Federal Socialist Republic has decided to follow suit with its close allies Hogsweat and Freedom Exterminated and emplace an economic embargo against Farmina, and will also place sanctions against any state which trades with Farmina for the duration of the embargo which has trade relations with the FSR. Furthermore, the Supreme Soviet of Hrstrovokia has agreed to renounce any recognization of the current Farminan Gov't until elections with a new administration, without a monarchy, are held.

The strategic nuclear forces of Hrstrovokia have been stood on high-alert following the threat made by Dumpsterdam. Land-based ICBMs of the Missile Command have now begun targeting Dumpsterdam forces in Europe* Although we do not wish to provoke or escalate any conflict with Hrstrovokian and Dumpsterdam, we are sworn to the defense of our allies. We hope you understand this, as we do not wish to begin a nuclear standoff.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia

[OOC: * Dumpsterdam forces in Earth3 - those invading the Netherlands.]

We have already had elections, thats what caused the problem in the first place. I should never have brought about the changes to the constitution, giving the people more power was a fatal mistake.

Emperor Justinian
Farmina
30-03-2005, 11:29
OOC: Does everyone joining the embargo realise that they were criminals?
Skinny87
30-03-2005, 11:35
Republican News Network

Breaking news is now coming in from one of the longest sessions of Parliament ever to occur in the Republic's history. We take you now to Bob Farmer just outside the Parliament Building:

'Thank you. The longest-ever session of Parliament has just been concluded, and the MP's are now coming out of the session. As you know, the debate over the Hogsweatian embargo of Farmina has been raging for several days now as, two days ago, President Martin called for a vote to be passed to sanction a Republican Embargo of Farmina.

The debate raged on, as President Martin made an impassioned speech to the two Houses, urging the representatives to support the Hogsweatian government as the Republic's closest and most valued ally. However, shouts of 'Shame', and 'Lackey' were heard during the speech, and several opposition MP's were thrown out after calling the President a 'Hogsweatian Puppet'.

Eventually, it appears a compromise has been made between the Houses and the President. Since the Republic has very little trade with Farmina, this trade will be shut down and all Farmina trade cut off with the Republic. The President will also make a speech supporting the Hogsweatian actions in Parliament today.
However, sources who wished to remain anonymous tell this agency that further and more direct action, including a full blockade of Farmina and possible action against Farminan citizens in the Republic, was thrown out by the Houses when Dumpsterdam government came out and supported Farmina. The Republic does not wish to antagonise Dumpsterdam at this time, especially with negotiations in Harlack reaching a critical point.'

In other news today, the Dowland hit a new height today as trading reached unprecedented levels, and thirty more Republican troopers were killed in Western Hitlerreich today as rioting broke out in several major cities...
Hrstrovokia
30-03-2005, 11:39
We do not recognize the divine right of kings. The FSR will drop its embargo once Emperor Justinian steps down and renounces any right to rule and elections are held which are monitored by international observers. We also propose that an international peacekeeping force be sent to Farmina, with the consent of the new Gov't, to provide a stabilising effect and deter any violence, particularly that which is perpetuated against the people.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia
Farmina
30-03-2005, 11:43
We do not recognize the divine right of kings. The FSR will drop its embargo once Emperor Justinian steps down and renounces any right to rule and elections are held which are monitored by international observers. We also propose that an international peacekeeping force be sent to Farmina, with the consent of the new Gov't, to provide a stabilising effect and deter any violence, particularly that which is perpetuated against the people.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia

Niether do we, thats why we have the Elected Councils (OOC: Parliament). It is the people's government. It was I who gave the Councils back most of their power.

Emperor Justinian
Farmina
30-03-2005, 11:53
In light of circumstances, and considering the full political situation in Farmina, I find it in Hogsweat's best interest to sign the following document.

If Farmina were to come under attack, it would shift power from my Conservatives, the Tobias Grey's Fascist block, a circumstance in neither of our nations’ interest.

Emperor Justinian

All signitories will be at peace, under the following conditions:

1) Hogsweat will recognise the government of Farmina,

2) Farmina will recognise the government of Hogsweat,

3) Farmina will promise to make no more large scale executions of criminals,

4) Hogsweat will recognise the executed as criminals first and foremost,

5) Farmina and Hogsweat will be under no requirement to like each other, speak nicely of each other, or trade with each other.
Macisikan
30-03-2005, 12:00
OOC: Does everyone joining the embargo realise that they were criminals?

OOC: Probably. But there's this little thing called a "free and fair trial", not to mention the whole notion of "cruel and/or unusual punishment" that's got everyone's noses out of joint.
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 12:07
Leaders of the World Today,

The Nation of Farmina has violated hundreds of human rights laws ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635) in an act today that has astonished the free world.

We hereby declare, as a member of the United Nations, and a Freedom Loving state, that the nation of Farmina is a terrorist nation that is willling to commit acts of terrorism to oppress it's people and the people of the world.

We hereby declare, as a sovereign nation and a Freedom Loving state, an Economic Embargo against Farmina. In addition we hereby do declare, as of 29th March, 2005, that a State of War Exists between the sovereign nation of Farmina and the Union of Soviet Socialist Hogsweatian Republics as of the desperate and disgusting acts of terrorism commited by the illegal Farminan govermnent. ( http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635 )

The USSHR asks, pledges, all nations of the world to follow suit with the Trade Embargo against the evil nation of Farmina.

Thank you.
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

Nations Signing the Embargo
Hogsweat
Drizzts Army

While we don't trust the United Nations, Farmina's crass brutality and utter lunacy in broadcasting these acts is well-beyond the pale.
It's one thing to ask someone to leave, it's quite another to torture whole families to death on prime-time television-for what amounts to an insignificant political religion.
We don't have trade ties or military ties to Farmina, we're sure as hell not going to pursue them Now. Grotesque...
-Gregir Halvorsen, President of the Assembly, Cadillac Gage.
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 12:23
OOC: Does everyone joining the embargo realise that they were criminals?
[OOC] Dude, you broadcast a sadistic orgy of murder and torture that included children among the victims! MOST Civilized nations would interpret that (especially such an act by a powerful nation) as 'scary' and 'criminally irresponsible'. Other words, like "Barbaric" and "Horrifying" also apply. Most RL genocides are kept under cover for that reason alone- it wasn't until Stalin was safely in his grave, and the Soviets safely had Nukes pointing at the other Great Powers that they-reluctantly-admitted to the purges of the 1930's.
I mean, man, you tortured children. That's no good, it's not even particularly smart, and it makes your whole leadership look like the scary-side-of-moonbat-crazy... so it doesn't really matter that you were killing traitors, or criminals, you were wallowing in Sadism and Cruelty, people outside your country/culture/ruling elite are going to look at that and say "We don't ever trade with that nutball, further, we don't turn our backs on him, and maybe if we're big enough, we ought to do something about it." they don't care what these people might have done, because what they're seeing is human-beings being degraded and murdered on the five-o-clock news.

and that's the image they'll hold of your country, regardless of anything else you might do either with the rest of your people, or as a humanitarian, what they'll remember, is the wholesale and meticulous cruelty and unnecessary sadism you not only engaged in, but elected to share with the rest of the world-indicating you don't even have the decency to keep it under wraps, or even be the slightest bit ashamed of doing it. It's like daring them to embargo you at the least, and attack you if they can, if for no other reason than to keep it from spreading outside your borders.
The Fedral Union
30-03-2005, 12:28
Beep beep beep a panel goes as an officer taps in commands looking at the calling to embargo message” well another petty dispute down on earth .. its kind of amusing to watch it wouldn’t you say? “ the x looks over and laughs” amusing this is hardly worth our time , were a galaxy class star ship not an observation post, we should be out saving the galaxy not watching this crap” …(in other words an elaborate tag)
Farmina
30-03-2005, 12:31
[OOC] Dude, you broadcast a sadistic orgy of murder and torture that included children among the victims! MOST Civilized nations would interpret that (especially such an act by a powerful nation) as 'scary' and 'criminally irresponsible'. Other words, like "Barbaric" and "Horrifying" also apply. Most RL genocides are kept under cover for that reason alone- it wasn't until Stalin was safely in his grave, and the Soviets safely had Nukes pointing at the other Great Powers that they-reluctantly-admitted to the purges of the 1930's.
I mean, man, you tortured children. That's no good, it's not even particularly smart, and it makes your whole leadership look like the scary-side-of-moonbat-crazy... so it doesn't really matter that you were killing traitors, or criminals, you were wallowing in Sadism and Cruelty, people outside your country/culture/ruling elite are going to look at that and say "We don't ever trade with that nutball, further, we don't turn our backs on him, and maybe if we're big enough, we ought to do something about it." they don't care what these people might have done, because what they're seeing is human-beings being degraded and murdered on the five-o-clock news.

and that's the image they'll hold of your country, regardless of anything else you might do either with the rest of your people, or as a humanitarian, what they'll remember, is the wholesale and meticulous cruelty and unnecessary sadism you not only engaged in, but elected to share with the rest of the world-indicating you don't even have the decency to keep it under wraps, or even be the slightest bit ashamed of doing it. It's like daring them to embargo you at the least, and attack you if they can, if for no other reason than to keep it from spreading outside your borders.

OOC: We never tortured children, only Class 2s and higher. In Farmina there is a belief that criminality passes through the blood, killing the kids was a simple culling. Torturing is a deterent for the fascists. Farmina's political instability following the election is "well known,"
Farmina
30-03-2005, 12:41
OOC: Probably. But there's this little thing called a "free and fair trial", not to mention the whole notion of "cruel and/or unusual punishment" that's got everyone's noses out of joint.

We had free and fair trials, its in the Farminan politics thread. The cruel and unusual punishment...well it would have been so boring if they were killed usually.
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 12:47
OOC: We never tortured children, only Class 2s and higher. In Farmina there is a belief that criminality passes through the blood, killing the kids was a simple culling. Torturing is a deterent for the fascists. Farmina's political instability following the election is "well known,"

[OOC] See, that's not what you broadcast in the original thread, though-what everyone saw, (REGARDLESS of your internal instabilities) was not a 'clean execution' it was murdering children and torturing whole families to death, along with degrading them. Outside Farmina, those people, regardless of what they did, are People. You made a game out of it, you took pains to make it grotesque and awful. that may have appeased your local Fascists, but no explanation, no justification, is going to work with the majority of the rest of the world. What they saw, was the filthiest kind of sadism imaginable.
They won't care what your beliefs are regarding criminal behaviour, you slaughtered Kids.
They won't care what activities the mothers may have engaged in, what they see, is you tortured women in degrading ways.



Put it this way, in RL I'm pretty strongly anticommunist, If I saw Communist Sabotuers being done that way by, say, South Korea, I'd be clamouring for an Intervention at the LEAST, an invasion is more likely, to bring the murdering/torturing scum to some kind of justice.

What you effectively did, was to eliminate any claim on the moral high-ground, and you effectively justified anything Hogsweat (or anyone else) wanted to do to you, up to and including WMD to stop you, and war-crimes tribunals for anyone in your government who managed to survive it... overall, an Embargo is pretty mild stuff in comparison with what an enemy could use to justify damn near any tactic he wants to use. You handed your enemies a HUGE propoganda weapon here, you're lucky they're not using it to its fullest extent-yet. You have time to get ready for when they do...
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 12:52
We had free and fair trials, its in the Farminan politics thread. The cruel and unusual punishment...well it would have been so boring if they were killed usually.


[ooc]
I'm fascinated by the concept that you gave the children a fair trial, and as for "boring" , well... you're going to, IF I read the posts by other nations here and on the "Socialists Purged in Games" thread accurately, have LOTS of exciting things happening to you fairly soon.


It's an old saw, but it's true-infantry and border-guards much prefer 'boring' to the alternative, and you've made LOTS of people outside your country very... not bored, especially on the subject of Farmina.
The Lightning Star
30-03-2005, 12:56
Offical Statement by the Carthaginian Leadership

The Technate shall stand besides our ally, Farmina. If need be, we have a very sizeable military, as well as some...interesting...technology, so...don't screw with us.

Oh, and just for the record, our representative was watching Anime when that was on. So there. Ha.
Farmina
30-03-2005, 12:56
OOC: Farminans are known to be mad as hatters, to get it out of the way.

In the slaughter thread (which is not the original thread) Justinian shoots the children, because he believes they shouldn't suffer. Sure it looks bad, I admit that.

By the way I'm not objecting to embargos or war; but to people who have made some very unusual claims (there was one about Justinian's secretary and refugees on the slaughter thread).
Farmina
30-03-2005, 12:59
Offical Statement by the Carthaginian Leadership

The Technate shall stand besides our ally, Farmina. If need be, we have a very sizeable military, as well as some...interesting...technology, so...don't screw with us.

Oh, and just for the record, our representative was watching Anime when that was on. So there. Ha.


I thank the Technate from the bottom of my heart for their logical choice. Farmina is always flattered to be allies with the Technate.

Emperor Justinian
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 13:37
OOC: Farminans are known to be mad as hatters, to get it out of the way.

In the slaughter thread (which is not the original thread) Justinian shoots the children, because he believes they shouldn't suffer. Sure it looks bad, I admit that.

By the way I'm not objecting to embargos or war; but to people who have made some very unusual claims (there was one about Justinian's secretary and refugees on the slaughter thread).

[ooc] well... regardless, your country's behaviour managed to scare at least MINE away from dealing with any of your citizens for a very long time. Since I've chosen a very small population level to RP (Due to environmental conditions, Cadillac Gage is probably never going to grow as large as the NS sheet shows-they wouldn't be able to feed more than around fifty million people on land that poor...) My country likely won't ever be in a position to fight Farmina anyway, but it won't stop them from worrying that you might 'notice' them-which, like being 'noticed' by God, is a bad, bad, thing. (Local religion holds that god is all-knowing, all-powerful, and a real bastard, being 'noticed by god' is synonymous with a run of extremely bad luck and catastrophes. 'God Blinked', on the other hand, is a phrase carrying the meaning that you may have had a run of good-fortune. Dour, serious, folk, you know...)
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 14:13
The Technate shall stand besides our ally, Farmina. If need be, we have a very sizeable military, as well as some...interesting...technology, so...[SNIP]

Kriegorgrad openly chuckles at this pathetic gnat trying to get noticed with its pathetic attempts at intimidation. We were going to sign this embargo regardless but you just gave us extra satisfaction by doing so. Kriegorgrad loves to ruffle young blood's feathers at every turn and while it may not be very diplomatic, it certainly fills us to the brim with contentment.

To our comrades in Hogsweat, we hereby sign this embargo.

From,

The Oligarch of Kriegorgrad, Comrade Leader Nikolai Fedorenkov

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg
imported_Vermin
30-03-2005, 14:20
"Do we import or export anything from Farmina?"

"Not much why?"

"Some nations want a worldwide embargo against Farmina. I thought it would interest you."

"Really? An embargo? good! contact them and ask them what resources or products we can sell or buy from them."

"And what about the executions?"

"What executions? What does that have to do with making money?"
Celtayoshi
30-03-2005, 14:34
Premier Németh laughs at the insolent upstarts of The Lightning Star. We need not flash our military about, anyone who trifles with us gets what they deserve. Celtayoshi stands firm by its ally Hogsweat and will sign the embargo.

Law for the Protection of Allies, allies economy and foreign interests, Farmina Act

The Government of Celtaoyshi, the industries of Celtayoshi, the commerce of Celtayoshi, the people of Celtayoshi and any Celtayoshi representation are forbid from either the purchase of, or sale of goods to and from Farmina. The act will last for 1,000,000 years or until repealed. All aid, current, or future, economic, military or otherwise, is to be denied to Farmina for the next 1,000,000 years, or until this act is repealed.



We also inivite Hogsweat to look at http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408704 for some miltary hardware which you can elect to purchase if you wish. (Okay, shameless advertising)
Random Kingdom
30-03-2005, 14:45
We will not only sign the embargo, but join Hogsweat in this war (if the UN allows it). Farmina, was he to be a UN member, would have violated the Wolfish Convention on Genocide, the Universal Bill of Rights, and countless other protocols. After the H-bomb detonation, we have not been impressed. The slaughtering of thousands of socialists is a step too far. (OOC: I'm a socialist too) A vote carried out today reflects that, with 90% of the population saying yes, 5% saying no, and 5% not giving a damn.

Yours sincerely,
Simon Smith (for lack of better name),
Honorary President of Random Kingdom,
c/o the Citizens of RK.
Hogsweat
30-03-2005, 15:50
To the Farminan proposition we say: Nay! You cannot bribe us with treaties. Our declaration stands. To all free nations, to all nations that love liberty in the highest order I ask that you do not accept Farmina as a sovereign nation. Vive Le Revolution! Long Live Socialism!
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

Co-ordinate Point C50 A19 B22, Alpha Point

It was cold and wet on the island of Burkimarav, a small submarine base in the Atlantic. It was not surprising that the Vanguard Class SSBN was not noticed as it slipped out of it's deepwater port on the rocky cliffs of Burkimarav. Unaccompanied except by a huge whale that passed sleekly past the HMS Soluble, the nuclear submarine drifted towards an approximate location of Farmina.. slowly.

OOC - Sorry for crap post, but I want to go play Navyfield.. the addiction, it grows!
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 15:53
To the Farminan proposition we say: Nay! You cannot bribe us with treaties. Our declaration stands. To all free nations, to all nations that love liberty in the highest order I ask that you do not accept Farmina as a sovereign nation. Vive Le Revolution! Long Live Socialism!
Comrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

Co-ordinate Point C50 A19 B22, Alpha Point

It was cold and wet on the island of Burkimarav, a small submarine base in the Atlantic. It was not surprising that the Vanguard Class SSBN was not noticed as it slipped out of it's deepwater port on the rocky cliffs of Burkimarav. Unaccompanied except by a huge whale that passed sleekly past the HMS Soluble, the nuclear submarine drifted towards an approximate location of Farmina.. slowly.

OOC - Sorry for crap post, but I want to go play Navyfield.. the addiction, it grows!

OoC: And so will your collection of glass bowls.
The Merchant Guilds
30-03-2005, 16:29
OOC: Could have done without this on the eve of preparations for possible total war, but oh well...

IC:

We are disgusted by this blatent Imperialism by the cowardly heretic and pagan nation of Hogsweat and the others who would follow this cowardly and pathetic action.

We hereby announce our full military, economic and political support to Farmina, in the case of Hogsweatian aggression we will answer the infidels of Hogsweat with our ally Dumpsterdam with God's Holy Justice for those who would deny the word of God, condemning others to the fires of Hell.

For God and Saint Peter,

Criticus Zabic,
Foreign Affairs Advisor to the Emperor,
Ilek-Vaad
30-03-2005, 16:49
The human rights violations of the USSHR are well known and at least as heinous as any carried out by Farmina. The propensity for the USSHR to engage in bloody wars of pointless imperialism is only over matched by the USSHR propensity for oppressing their own citizens.

Any action on any nation called for by the USSHR based on human rights abuses, is laughable at best.

The Free Republic will continue to administer it's trade laws as it sees fit and at this time the dangerous sweatshops of the USSHR do not meet Ministry of Foreign Trade requirements for trade with the Free Republic. The Ministry is unaware of any certification requests from any Farminian businessess, but if received they will be carried out as normal.

Madrid Arden, Minister of Foreign Trade, Ilek-Vaad
Wallis and Futuna
30-03-2005, 17:08
The Wallis and Futunan governments official stance on this issue is to side with our allies Hogsweat. We have officially stopped all trade from Farmina entering our country, not that this amounts to much. Our actions may not be damaging alone to Farmina but count us as another enemy.

- Governor Hashborini Lorque
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 17:11
Official Statement from the Ministry of Fear

To the heathens, whores and other assorted scum that take refuge within the weak nation of "The Merchant Guilds", nothing more than a collection of outcasts and fools. Those who cling to the old dying belief that there is a god other than Nikolai Fedorenkov. Heed my words, there will be one day when the mighty proletariat rises up against the chain keepers of The Merchant Guilds and your bourgeoisie will be washed away by the holy fire of the righteous anger of the proletariat.

We are reconsidering our...ties with The Merchant Guilds due to the obvious ignorance presented by the parasite Criticus Zabic.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

OoC: Just setting the mood for the RP TMG, nothing personal!
The Merchant Guilds
30-03-2005, 17:19
We suggust the weak and impotent regime of Kriegorgrad goes and sets fire to itself now. There is no crime more heinous than denying the word of God and putting in the Lord's Heavenly place a pathetic Anti-Christal Demon, that Nikolai Fedorenkov surely is. The only way to redeem yourself from this most heinous of crimes would be burn in the purifying flames of the Inquisition or the Witch Hunters.

We will pray for your salvation, but your weak, foul smelling leader will burn in the flames of hell with his sodomite companion, Satan.

For God and Saint Peter,

Criticus Zabic,
Foreign Affairs Advisor to the Emperor,
Risban
30-03-2005, 17:21
Official Statement from the Grand Imperium of Risban

The Grand Imperium shall declare neutrality in the embargo. Whilst we do not support genocide or mass murder in any way or form, and whilst we are a part of the United Nations, we do recognize the sovereignity of the government of Farmina, as well as the fact that they are not part of the United Nations and thus have no need to follow UN laws.
In the event that a nation invades Farmina for their public execution of what they deem to be criminals, while not activating the Imperial Armed Forces, we will support the Farminan government.

~Alexander Perkins~
Imperial High Minister for Foreign Affairs
Wolfish
30-03-2005, 17:24
The Empire will, at this point neither condemn nor condone its ally; Farmina.
However, we wish to make painfully clear to any wana-be invaders that any incursion into Farmina will be seen as an attack on the Empire and will be indiscriminately retaliated to with a full ICBM strike.

ooc: Drama Queen. ;)

ic: Wolfish is always seeking opportunities to increase trade - and therefore will offer Farmina new opportunities to provide manufacturing capacity for Wolfish industries.

We would also be interesting in exploring trade in agricultural products - particularly grains and rice.
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 17:30
Official Statement from the Ministry of Fear

You have the audacity to accuse our glorious Comrade Leader Nikolai Federenkov of most heinous crimes such as sodomy? You are damned to burn in the hell spawned pits you crawled out from, for the heretics with The Merchant Guilds shall be purged by the holy flame of the proletariat. The fact you speak of Christ as if he was something more than a mad, blatantly homosexual drunk sends fits of laughter through the people of Kriegorgrad. The Kriegos know that Jesus Christ, Saint Peter are nothing more than stark raving mad homosexual paedophiles.

We pray for your and your blatantly corrupt nation, The Merchant Guilds is home to all manner of vices, homosexuality, whores and incest are but a few of the disturbing crimes against nature displayed within the dissolute hell hole of The Merchant Guilds. Repent now and Nikolai Fedorenkov shall grant you swift deaths.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg
Guffingford
30-03-2005, 17:30
"The Reich chuckles at this most idiotic embargo. Hogsweat tries to show the world yet again how 'powerful' they are. But ask yourself this question, who places an embargo on who? Hogsweat, with his backwards, medieval socialist economy or Farmina, a capitalist haven. But anyway, we condemn this waste of time.

- Cobragt Rundevelt, Führer of Social Nationalist Guffingford
The Merchant Guilds
30-03-2005, 17:48
We have evidence of your Leaders sodomy (attached)* and thus we know he will surely burn in hell for his unholy and forbidden sexual intercouse.

The people of the Merchant Guilds are content as a whole and those who are not content... well 'disappear'... they have slaves and anything they could ever want. They even have the knowledge that God Almightly and his Son favour them above other nations because of their nation's pious attention to duty.

For the insults to our Lord and his Son, your entire nation shall have be cleansed for your satanic words and thoughts.

We suggust you go castrate yourself, your wife and your children... in fact why not castrate your entire nation, it would save us the trouble.

For God and Saint Peter you shall burn in the fires of hell, whilst Satan and his Demons violate your rectal areas...

Criticus Zabic,
Foreign Affairs Advisor to the Emperor,

OOC: *is a series of pictures and hour long taped sessions of homosexual encounters, with Nikolai Fedorenkov's head smoothed into place. As well as a photocopy of a series of love notes signed by said person to his lover, Boris.

Obviously fakes but you know... :P
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 18:29
Official Statement from the Ministry of Fear

Those pictures were hideously fake, you could have at least took some time when doctoring your pictures...however, we have some authentic evidence of your "Emperor" committing heinous love crimes with none other than...you. That is right, you are not only a homosexual deviant but a hypocritical homosexual deviant.

We hope this news will silence you and your lying tongue.

The pictures are here*.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

OoC: *another series of equally badly edited pictures, showing the Criticus and the Emperor in "compromising" positions.

What a merry game too propaganda fuelled nations play!
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 19:11
Taken from DNS evening news

...the picture showing the Guilder minister of Foreign Affairs Criticus Zabic as well as well know lunatic Nikolai Federenkov leader of Kriegorgrad in compromising positions. The two are both ridiculed for their actions and told to "suck it up" by a animated Royal Marine.
The movie lasted for six minutes while Imperial Ravelers and the 9th Imperial Codebreaker errased the picture on both networks; GLORIA and ANGEL, the delay of five and a half minutes being caused by hysterical laughing in the Imperial Ravelers and the veteran 9th Imperial Codebreakers. The navy found the picture in bad taste and has orderd in investigation into the matter, citing that they would not like to be associated with both nations, Kriegorgrad for being a bunch of bitchy assholes and the Guilders for not having a standing navy...

OoC: XD
Praetonia
30-03-2005, 19:14
Official Statement of the Imperial Government of Praetonia

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/PraeFlagII.jpg

"The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia declares her utmost disgust at the actions perpetrated by the nation 'Farmina' with no respect for common decency or justice. The truely hideous nature Farmina's latest evil stunt leaves us with no other choice than to put our full political, diplomatic and, if need be, military weight behind the Soviet Socialist Union of Hogsweat.

All trade, should it exist [OOC: And almost all nations trade in some way with almost all others] has officially ceased. Any Farminan vessels in Praetonian port are to be given 2 hours to depart before their ships are impounded, their cargos confiscated and their crews arrested. All Farminan Government Officials inside Praetonia are hearby declared persona non gratta and will be arrested on sight. All Farminans currently in Praetonia hearby have their visas revoked, and have 12 hours to vacate the country before being placed under arrest.

Any Farminan warship or aeroplane which enters Praetonia's 200km Economic Exclusion Zone will be ordered to leave by the Imperial Navy. Any Farminan warship or aeroplane which enters Praetonian waters will be destroyed on sight. Any and all diplomatic relations which may or may not have existed between our two nations are hearby declared null and void. We will not tolerate obcene human rights abuses of this kind from any nation, and we are willing to back this up with military force if need be."
The Parthians
30-03-2005, 19:25
The Shah of Parthia will declare to all would be invaders of the nation of Farmina, that Parthia will stand by this blessed nation from liberal imperialist scum and other evil allies of Ahriman. My support is for you Emperor Justinian.

-Shah Khosru III
The Lightning Star
30-03-2005, 19:32
Kriegorgrad openly chuckles at this pathetic gnat trying to get noticed with its pathetic attempts at intimidation. We were going to sign this embargo regardless but you just gave us extra satisfaction by doing so. Kriegorgrad loves to ruffle young blood's feathers at every turn and while it may not be very diplomatic, it certainly fills us to the brim with contentment.

To our comrades in Hogsweat, we hereby sign this embargo.

From,

The Oligarch of Kriegorgrad, Comrade Leader Nikolai Fedorenkov

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

"Gnat"? "Young Blood?"

You speak to the people of Carthage, you insolent worm! You may have your fancy large population, but by signing this embargo you are proving that you are too cowardly to face the people of Farmina and ourselves head on. Besides, you communists hide behind your people and try to promote strength, even though you are weak.

(Really, though, population doesn't mean shit. Sure, at the beginning it might, but on a field with so many different variables a person with 1.7 billion could easily compete with someone with, say, 2 or 3 billion. )
Cadillac-Gage
30-03-2005, 19:45
[ooc] Hey, let's try to keep the hostilities in character, right? Population based rod-size competitions aren't good readin', and "STFU N00B" contests are boring, dig? This has the potential to make for a "good read", but it also has the potential to be a numbers-wank, and leave people hostile Out of Character.
Random Kingdom
30-03-2005, 20:16
The people of Random Kingdom have decided, in a majority never seen before in RK politics, to immediately mobilize for war against Farmina. All cities have locked down, preventing anything without clearance from passing from city to city. All workers have been shifted from tertiary business (however, supermarkets will remain staffed) to help the war effort on the field, in the factory, or in the military. RK is maintaining a primarily defensive stance for the time being.

Any storefronts that wish to sell equipment to RK may step forward now. RK has an all-consuming economical status, and since the mobilization has left most of the budget free to use, a sizeable armada can be bought and maintained.
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 20:26
Taken from DNS evening news

[i]...the picture showing the Guilder minister of Foreign Affairs Criticus Zabic as well as well know lunatic Nikolai Federenkov leader of Kriegorgrad...[SNIP]

Jovial Statement from the Ministry of Fear

Omfg...hax!!1

***

Official Statement from the Ministry of Fear

We speak to the people of Cathrage...and? "The people of Cathrage" and pathetic, weak, insolent dogs are one in the same. You will stand down or face the full wrath of the Kriegos Proletarian Guard and the wrath of Kriegorgrad's comrades.

And what on the earth are you talking about? Communists "hide behind the people." You are very ignorant on the matter for you do not know one very simple fact: communists are the people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

OoC: Dumpsterdam, that was in good jest so I'll let it drop but just to let you know for future reference, Kriegorgrad has an extremely secure network, I mean extremely! Also, I'm not participating in any "hot-rod" competitions, I never claimed population > all, I simply called TLS a tiresome gnat ICly and a young blood, both signals of IC contempt.
Pacitalia
30-03-2005, 20:36
Pacitalia is more than happy to sign this embargo against a duplicitous, fake, fanatical, oppressive scourge of a nation like Farmina, and we are proud and happy to support our friends in Hogsweat.

Vasiliou Bandanaris
Agustinate of International Relations
The Fedral Union
30-03-2005, 20:38
my mod tech self will join (im both ft and mod tech so w/e)
Roach-Busters
30-03-2005, 20:44
I condemn this odious, unfair, unstatesmanlike embargo. Consider diplomatic and economic relations with all nations who signed it to be severed at once.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Pacitalia
30-03-2005, 20:46
Oh, and the bullshit coming out of Emperor Justinian's mouth isn't? The mark of a poor leader is when he can't differentiate between truth and lies. You're doing a fine job of that right now, Generalissimo.

Profa. Orifa Pazzati
Principal Dean
National University of Timiocato

OOC: Purely IC, don't forget. :)
The Inner Sect
30-03-2005, 20:48
Various mercenaries and assassins are offering to take Justinian's head to minimize hastle and death in this matter. However, instead of asking for money, they ask for intelligence information on various corporate and terror groups and/or confidential technology data.
Roach-Busters
30-03-2005, 20:48
Oh, and the bullshit coming out of Emperor Justinian's mouth isn't? The mark of a poor leader is when he can't differentiate between truth and lies. You're doing a fine job of that right now, Generalissimo.

Profa. Orifa Pazzati
Principal Dean
National University of Timiocato

OOC: Purely IC, don't forget. :)

(OOC: I know. ;))

What Justinian does is his own damn business. This embargo is a dire threat to Farmina's national sovereignty, and for that I vehemently oppose it. As long as this embargo is in place, RB will send extensive military aid to Farmina to protect itself against these imperialistic, anti-sovereignty monsters.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Sarzonia
30-03-2005, 20:51
Owing to the government of Farmina's disregard for human life, the Incorporated States of Sarzonia supports her Hogsweatian, Praetonian, and Pacitalian allies by agreeing to support this embargo against Farmina.

Any Farminan citizen in Sarzonian territory shall have 72 hours to evacuate or they will be impounded and arrested. Any Farminan ship, aircraft, or other vehicle in sovereign Sarzonian territory shall be summarily impounded, its contents seized, and its occupants arrested.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Roach-Busters
30-03-2005, 20:54
Pacitalia has 24 hours to renounce its support of the embargo, otherwise all military, economic, and diplomatic relations between our two nations will be severed. I detest those who cherish "human rights" over national sovereignty.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Kroblexskij
30-03-2005, 20:54
TAG- may post later
Einhauser
30-03-2005, 20:56
Einhauser pleadges our support for Hogsweat's embargo. All trade with Farmina will be halted immediatly.
Pacitalia
30-03-2005, 21:06
Pacitalia has 24 hours to renounce its support of the embargo, otherwise all military, economic, and diplomatic relations between our two nations will be severed. I detest those who cherish "human rights" over national sovereignty.

-Generalissimo J.L.

It's your choice, I guess. Don't forget about the 34% of your total imports you're losing by severing your relations with us, which without such a substantial piece of your economic pie, your people will further suffer and die, moreso than they already do under your oppressive, ultra-fascist regime. And don't you dare ever again insult our integrity on national sovereignty. We are just as much concerned with the latter as we are with the former.

- Vasiliou Bandanaris
Roach-Busters
30-03-2005, 21:09
It's your choice, I guess. Don't forget about the 34% of your total imports you're losing by severing your relations with us, which without such a substantial piece of your economic pie, your people will further suffer and die, moreso than they already do under your oppressive, ultra-fascist regime. And don't you dare ever again insult our integrity on national sovereignty. We are just as much concerned with the latter as we are with the former.

- Vasiliou Bandanaris

Consider all relations severed. Curtis Connors will be recalled at once. Your ambassador has 24 hours to evacuate the country, or he will be publicly castrated with a plastic knife, without being given anesthesia. Your military has 20 days to evacuate; if they don't meet the deadline, I will turn the base into a mushroom cloud.

-Generalissimo J.L.
New Mesapotamia
30-03-2005, 21:14
The USSNM will happily sign this embargo. The nation of New Mesapotamia is shocked by this attack against humanity.

Andrew Schuster
Prime Minister of the United Socialist States of New Mesapotamia
Kaiser Martens
30-03-2005, 21:39
"Mmh, if I'm lucky they'll all just kill each other!"
Martens said, sitting in his Bunker's control room as he watched.
Krioval
30-03-2005, 21:49
Paladin Media Service - excerpt

Torokara - In a resounding victory for the Commander, the Kriovalian Parliament unanimously issued a stinging condemnation of the recent mass murders in Farmina. Resolving to aid in the support of those nations opposed to such atrocities, the statement (KDV-1457) came short of declaring war, but strongly recommended "military sanctions" to be placed on the Empire by any willing nations, and offered trade to those enforcing an embargo against Farmina. Further, the resolution authorized the Commandership to revoke diplomatic standings with Farmina, derecognize its government, and to detain indefinitely any and all citizens of that state. This includes the former Farminan Chancellor Dan Rickhart, who was extradited from Farmina just days ago. An ardent Fascist, it is widely assumed that Rickhart was expelled from Farmina as part of a power struggle in their government.

Citizens are advised to refrain from travels in Farmina or its allies due to the security risks inherent in such locations. A statement from Raijin Dekker said "The government of Farmina under Justinian is no longer recognized by Krioval. Thus, any person detained under the auspices of that government is beyond our aid." While a state of war with Farmina is extremely unlikely (OOC: I'm FT), the current levels of strife has led to a total freeze in assets going to or arriving from that nation under the authority of the Kriovalian National Bank.

story by Johan Kelos
Wolfish
30-03-2005, 22:08
Consider all relations severed. Curtis Connors will be recalled at once. Your ambassador has 24 hours to evacuate the country, or he will be publicly castrated with a plastic knife, without being given anesthesia. Your military has 20 days to evacuate; if they don't meet the deadline, I will turn the base into a mushroom cloud.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Threatening a foreign Ambassador is ill-advised. Should you cause harm to any Ambassador violates many international laws and treaties.

May I suggest that if you wish the Ambassador out, and he / she fails to comply - you can simply remove the Ambassador, without resorting to physical threats.

Wolfish will continue to monitor this affair.
Fascist Confederacy
30-03-2005, 22:15
We officially sign and join the embargo against Farmina. - The Politburo

(OOC: Lol. Are my comrades happy now? Lol.)
Random Kingdom
30-03-2005, 22:26
We ask for nations to go beyond the embargo and declare war on Farmina. Random Kingdom has already done just that.
Macisikan
30-03-2005, 23:04
You are watching MNB News
"... may or may not commit.

As tensions continue to mount over the Farminan slaughter, with more and more nations declaring for one side or the other, His Imperial Majesty's Government has announced that it will remain completely neutral in this dispute.

New archaeological evidence uncovered..."

========

Ministry of External Affairs
TRAVEL ADVICE
Nation of Farmia

All Macisikani citizens are strongly advised to defer any and all travel to the nation of Farmina until further notice; all Macisikani citizens currently in Farmina are strongly urged to leave that nation at once. Those who consider their presence in Farmina to be essential should suspend their activities and leave that nation as soon as possible.

All Macisikani in Farmina whether departing or remaining, should register with the Ministry of External Affairs (contact details below).

All foreign citizens wishing to leave Farmina and travel to Macisikan must register with the Ministry of External Affairs, Secretariat of State for Immigration and Tourism. (contact details below); MinExAff (SSIT) reserves the right to refuse entry to anyone deemed a security risk.
Yafor 2
31-03-2005, 01:06
To: All nations involved

We, as the Grand Democratic Ducy of Yafor 2, will stand by our allies, Sarzonia, Praetonia, Pacitalia, and Hogsweat in signing this treaty against the oppressive state of Farmina. All trade with that Christian extremist state (which was ver little to begin with), is over.

~Signed~
Rudiv Sodo
Elected Duke of Yafor 2.
Mondoth
31-03-2005, 01:25
The nation of Mondoth issues the following warning to all nations;

A Mondothian Navay Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been dispatched to the Farminian Economic/Military exclusion zone, any ships entering the zone with the intent to sell to or aid in any way the insurgent forces (AKA the Farminian government, which is no longer ecognized by Mondoth as a legal government) will be destroyed, also, Mondoth has declared un restricted submarine warfare against any Farminian ships, a Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been ordered to find and destroy any Farminian ships in international waters.

Also, In support of the Embargo, Mondoth is willing to grant 'Favored Nation' trade status to any nation supporting this embargo (10% discount at storefront and on Oil) Further more, any nation that participates in the Invasion of Farmina will recieve Most Favored Nation trade status (20% discount)

Secret IC:
The Mondothian List of Strategic Targets has been updated to include points of strategic and political importance within Dumpsterdam, they will be removed when said nation removes the threat of nuclear arms
Farmina
31-03-2005, 01:39
OOC: I didn't want this much attention, I was just filling a gap in the Farminan politics thread.

IC:
It is ironic that left wing scum are so hypocritical. Not only do they condemn us for killing a mass of people when there was a free and fair trial, but they then make a move to see a mass of people killed, with out providing any of them, or Farmina as a whole with a fair trial.

Farmina demands the right to trial.

Emperor Justinian
Yafor 2
31-03-2005, 01:41
All right, you can have the trial.
The witnessess are everyone else in the world, who saw the video and knew what had happened. They have already presented themselves.

Let me remind you, not all of us are left-wing.

And you are guilty.

~Signed~
Aemon Chaliny
Foriegn Minister and High Governor of all Yaforite Provinces.
Macisikan
31-03-2005, 02:11
OOC: We all really like you.

IC:
You are watching MNB News
"... looks to pass this week.

His Imperial Majesty's Government has tightened the provisions of its Declaration of Neutrality, in response to Mondoth's warning. His Imperial Majesty's Government announced that any belligerent actions taken by any side in Macisikani territories will be an illegal military action tantamount to invasion.

"We have said it before and we will say it again; we will not take sides in this war. We are impartial!" the External Affairs Minister said in a rather terse interview on talkback radio this morning.

Analysts say the gesture is more symbolic than anything else, given the Empire's extreme remoteness from the potential conflict.

Legal experts at the University of Arn-Macisaan say that they are "intrigued" by Farmina's request for a free and fair trial over the matter, calling the request "highly unusual... but not impossible..." They have also dismissed the Yaforite announcement on the subject as "preconcieved" and "too hasty a decision".

The Judiciary was unavailable for comment.

Burst water mains in the northern city of..."
Miniferg
31-03-2005, 02:28
"Our great leaders have now taken official action against Farmina, which murdered many innocent people. They have been hesitant to take action, probably stunned by the level of atrocity of these acts."

Official Statement from The Socialist Superpower of Miniferg

We are disgusted by these atrocities against Socialists. All trade with Farmina has ceased. We pledge to join in the embargo against Farmina.
The Lightning Star
31-03-2005, 02:35
Jovial Statement from the Ministry of Fear

Omfg...hax!!1

***

Official Statement from the Ministry of Fear

We speak to the people of Cathrage...and? "The people of Cathrage" and pathetic, weak, insolent dogs are one in the same. You will stand down or face the full wrath of the Kriegos Proletarian Guard and the wrath of Kriegorgrad's comrades.

And what on the earth are you talking about? Communists "hide behind the people." You are very ignorant on the matter for you do not know one very simple fact: communists are the people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg

OoC: Dumpsterdam, that was in good jest so I'll let it drop but just to let you know for future reference, Kriegorgrad has an extremely secure network, I mean extremely! Also, I'm not participating in any "hot-rod" competitions, I never claimed population > all, I simply called TLS a tiresome gnat ICly and a young blood, both signals of IC contempt.


OOC: I know, I was just explaining my governments posistion. Which is also IC contempt.

IC:

Sigh, sure we will. We aren't looking for a fight unless Farmina is invaded, but if you continue to antagonize us, we may have to take pre-emptive action.

It wouldn't be the first time a Goliath would be slain by a David.
imported_Vermin
31-03-2005, 03:07
The nation of Mondoth issues the following warning to all nations;

A Mondothian Navay Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been dispatched to the Farminian Economic/Military exclusion zone, any ships entering the zone with the intent to sell to or aid in any way the insurgent forces (AKA the Farminian government, which is no longer ecognized by Mondoth as a legal government) will be destroyed, also, Mondoth has declared un restricted submarine warfare against any Farminian ships, a Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been ordered to find and destroy any Farminian ships in international waters.

Also, In support of the Embargo, Mondoth is willing to grant 'Favored Nation' trade status to any nation supporting this embargo (10% discount at storefront and on Oil) Further more, any nation that participates in the Invasion of Farmina will recieve Most Favored Nation trade status (20% discount)

Secret IC:
The Mondothian List of Strategic Targets has been updated to include points of strategic and political importance within Dumpsterdam, they will be removed when said nation removes the threat of nuclear arms

"The Lord Prophet warns Mondoth to be careful when sinking ships coming from or going to Farmina. We still believe that we are free to trade with whomever we wish and sail our ships to whatever end of the world we should want to. We will not hesitate to take action against any nation that takes away that right and attacks ships flying the Vermini flag."

http://users.pandora.be/bdc/yuri6.jpg
<[Lord Yuri]>
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Durthangist Reich of Vermin
Iuthia
31-03-2005, 03:33
Pacitalia has 24 hours to renounce its support of the embargo, otherwise all military, economic, and diplomatic relations between our two nations will be severed. I detest those who cherish "human rights" over national sovereignty.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Odd, for a nation which claims to be for national soveriegnity we've noticed Roach-Busters has been part of an alliance which directly ignores the national soveriegnity of nations recognised as "Communists". So we fail to see your moral high ground on such an issue.

Meanwhile, an embargo isn't really something which damages another nations national sovereignty directly, seeing as it's more about changing laws in your own nation to ban trade with a nation who's action you don't agree with.

Iuthia accepts that Farmina rules their own nation as they see fit, though we do not have to agree with those laws and given that our international trade with such nations is our business, it's up to individual nations to outline their own trade policies as they see fit.

So providing there are no attempts to blockade all trade to and from Farmina there are no direct actions being taken against the national soveriegnity of Farmina, these actions are simply about voicing their disgust for such actions and their choice to no longer trade with this nation... Farmina's laws are not being affected directly in anyway.

For future reference, Iuthia has been and will continue to concider Farmina as a blacklisted nation whom we will not trade with, this is not out of sympathy for Hogsweat's almost hypocritical cause, but because Iuthia simply wishes to have no dealings with nations like Farmina.

Thanks,

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Pacitalia
31-03-2005, 05:10
Bump for the cause of democracy and freedom ;)
Farmina
31-03-2005, 05:31
OOC: Just a request. Justinian's government is going to collapse anyway due to the election results, so could you guys ease up and let me come unstuck on my own. I was just wanting/expecting a few very loud threats since I've seen people get away with much worse. Farmina's instability is well known after all.
Nation of Fortune
31-03-2005, 05:34
OOC: Just a request. Justinian's government is going to collapse anyway due to the election results, so could you guys ease up and let me come unstuck on my own. I was just wanting/expecting a few very loud threats since I've seen people get away with much worse. Farmina's instability is well known after all.
OOC: Assassins have been called on by a group that will remain nameless to assassinate Justinian. So I hope that helps with the collapse.
Farmina
31-03-2005, 05:54
OOC: Assassins have been called on by a group that will remain nameless to assassinate Justinian. So I hope that helps with the collapse.

I already have someone waiting to assissinate(sp?) Justinian. I could enlist you IC to deal with someone else. I want to create a spinoff RP.
Nodea Rudav
31-03-2005, 05:57
To Hogsweat and Farmina

It has come to the attention of the Colonial Union of Nodea Rudav that our long ally of Hodsweat has come under some warring needs. However, as our dormacy has been awoken by this act of embargoment, it is important for Nodea Rudav to return to silence. Intern, it is suggested that you quickly put an end to this conflict, as this will be our last Transmission for some time.

We have missed out on a lot, but to be awoken by the Allied Republics of Anagonia and told of this Embargo so LATE is frustrating enough. If possible, come to terms. Even as we are a Legendary Superpower, we must continue our silent reform.

Thank You.

OOC:

This is Anagonia talking through Nodea Rudav. This Nation was founded in November of 2001 or 2002. I have proof of this by the many Veteran Nations that knew Nodea Rudav. If you have any questions, or deny the supremecy of Nodea Rudav, please contact Automagfreek and simply ask how long has he known Nodea Rudav.

Please tell him, if you do, that I suggested his name only because he's basically the only Legendary Nation that I know that remembers me.

Thank You.
New Shiron
31-03-2005, 06:42
Official Advisory (released to the press) from the Foreign Ministry, Kingdom of New Shiron, Federated Klatchian Coast

Declaration of Amber Zone Status for Haven and Farmina
Effective immediately, citizens of New Shiron are urged to voluntarily leave the nations of Haven, as well as the nation of Farmina. The continuing threat of hostilities between Hogsweat and its neighbors versus Farmina and its allies are now viewed by this government as imminent, and this government cannot guarantee the safety of our citizens who chose to remain in the nations located in Haven, or the nation of Farmina, as well as its neighbors.

News release issued to the usual media which is added to the news reports of the Amber Zone status update

In addition, a warning was issued to the governments of Hogsweat and Farmina informing them that in the event of war between those two nations, New Shiron will be forced to freeze any and all assets for the duration of that war in order to ensure that its neutrality is not violated.
Automagfreek
31-03-2005, 06:55
OOC:

This is Anagonia talking through Nodea Rudav. This Nation was founded in November of 2001 or 2002. I have proof of this by the many Veteran Nations that knew Nodea Rudav. If you have any questions, or deny the supremecy of Nodea Rudav, please contact Automagfreek and simply ask how long has he known Nodea Rudav.

Please tell him, if you do, that I suggested his name only because he's basically the only Legendary Nation that I know that remembers me.

Thank You.


OOC: I can vouch for Nodea Rudav being like a late '02, possibly an early '03 nation (although '02 is probably right).

*throws in his $.02, then disappears*
The Resi Corporation
31-03-2005, 06:55
Official Communique from the Resi Corporation:

Boycott? BOYCOTT? Last we checked, Farmina is a soverign nation, giving it the right to do whatever the hell it pleases. Besides, what products do Hogsweat and their inferior allied communist governments offer that Farmina couldn't buy cheaper and better from nations with good economic stylings? Nations, of course, like ours.

That said, we offer a counter-boycott to Farmina. A sort of "price club", if you will, offering a general 10% discount off all items in our store (http://members.cox.net/resicorp/). Farmina will be able to enter this Price Club with no requirements, as he is already feeling the brunt of communists refusing to trade with him, but anyone who wants to join for a 10% discount off of all member nations' stores must also give all member nations a 10% discount off their store. If you want the 10% off our products, the same discount must be open to us.

We shall announce this Price Club concept to the general public in the near future. May Farmina prosper.
[signed]
Angellica Kradii, Secretary to the CEO
The Resi Corporation
Vastiva
31-03-2005, 07:39
I condemn this odious, unfair, unstatesmanlike embargo. Consider diplomatic and economic relations with all nations who signed it to be severed at once.

-Generalissimo J.L.

"Do we have any direct relations with Roach-Busters?"
"No, sir."
"Did we sign anything?"
"No, sir."
"Ah, good, business as usual."
Nation of Fortune
31-03-2005, 07:47
I already have someone waiting to assissinate(sp?) Justinian. I could enlist you IC to deal with someone else. I want to create a spinoff RP.
OOC: and who would that person be?
Edit, cause we are a nation of Mercenaries after all, people do hire us for that sort of thing.
Farmina
31-03-2005, 07:50
OOC: and who would that person be?
Edit, cause we are a nation of Mercenaries after all, people do hire us for that sort of thing.
Go to the "THE SLAUGHTER CONTINUES", you will see.
Then I'll see if Parthia or RB or someone, wants to help RP it.
Hrstrovokia
31-03-2005, 10:44
The Hrstrovokian Federal Socialist Republic has extended the economic embargo to the following nations, who are directly co-operating and assisting the terrorist state of Farmina -

Merchant Guilds
Roach-busters
The Parthians
Doomsingsland

We recommend that those nations conducting an embargo against Farmina also include Merchant Guilds, Roach-busters, the Parthians and Doomsingsland.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia
Freedom Exterminated
31-03-2005, 10:47
<snip>President Sule couldn't help but to cackle. 1.5 bilion people, defence spending... Insignificant... Legendary Superpower. I wonder what he's smoking? I bet Kenai would love to try it... He chuckled a little, thinking of his special ambassador's... Problems... With certain addictives. Now, where w- "as I? Ah, yes... The video, and then visiting Ghali with Rehema."

Said, done. Of course, the video wasn't especially nice, but then, raiding a rebel-held village was something he could enjoy. Still, they could have edited out the bits with the blood and loose bodyparts flying around... He wasn't the young man he had once been. He had grown soft.

Oddly enough, he liked it.

Meanwhile, Amin Nassor, Minister for Defence, pondered the next moves, with about two dozen underlings around him. Secretaries, Generals, half of them Marshalls (Their title not changing the fact that they were commanding divisions, at best. According to Amin, the rank inflation in the military had to keep up with the inflation the currency suffered from, a theory that wasn't even all that wrong, as it made sure that everyone's ego was satisfied. Of course, having more colonels than garbagemen wasn't one of FE's favourable traits, but it worked out. Somehow).

Their job was a simple one. They had to listen, to agree, and generally make remarks regarding Amin's smartness and overall brilliance.

"Yes, yes, we agree..." "Ideed, a brilliant plan." "We can't miss this chance." "This would be perfect, Sir!"

It worked out. And Amin devised his plan. Supporting Hogsweat, spreading the revolution... It was a brilliant idea, a chance he couldn't afford to pass by, unused.

As such, elite units were prepared to help Hogsweat, just in case that they would, say, ask for them (Far be it from Amin to approach Hogsweat directly. Such would have been... Dishonourable, looking as if FE was inferior to Hogsweat. Which would be true, but then, nobody needed to actually accept the truth, now, did they?).

Elite Units... That they were. Decently paid, equipped with assault rifles that were almost state of the art, even some artillery and the occasional, rare SAM. Desertion rates were low, and the discipline was reasonable. Almost 3000 men were almost ready to move.

Amin cackled. "This will show them!"

"Yes, SIR!" came the answer, the 24 voices sounding like one.
Skinny87
31-03-2005, 11:36
Republican Department of Defense Communique

Major General Harding, as head of the Republican Military in the Republic of Skinny87 and Western Hitlerreich has made the following statement to the International Press:

"Although the Republic of Skinny87 is at this moment experiencing 'Political Difficulties', the Republican Military has been authorised by President Martin, as the militarily recognised authority over the Republic, to become a seperate entity to the elected government of the Republic.

As such, the Republic now officially supports the embargo and blockade of the nationstate of Farmina, and its government and constitutional monarchy is no longer recognised by the Republican State Department as the government of Farmina. This blockade will be enforced by the Republican Military, and as of 12:00 hours today no Farminan vessels, vehicles or aircraft will be allowed within Republican airspace or territories, including Western Hitlerreich. All Farminan citizens will be asked to leave the territory of the Republic within 96 hours of this announcement, and will be deported.

At this time, the Republican Military will go to Condition 2 and will come to battle-readiness, with Radpid-Reaction Forces coming to stand-by mode. However, and this should be made extremely clear, The Republic of Skinny87 is not declaring war upon the nationstate of Farmina or any of its allies, but is merely conducting an embargo in support of our allies the USSHR. However, any attack upon the USSHR or any countries allied with the Republic or the USSHR will be seen as an attack upon the Republic and responded to as such."
Miniferg
31-03-2005, 13:59
Secret:

The Miniferg ESU team of 4 (Elite Soldiers Unit) boarded the Mike class submarine. It was destined for Farmina. Its mission: deploy the ESU team which would gather more evidence of Farmina's atrocities.

Official announcement:

Miniferg is ready to assist Hogsweat and its allies in any way possible. Our trade embargo against the terrorist nation of Farmina has been extended to the nations that support Farmina.
Duke Barol
31-03-2005, 14:02
tag
Iuthia
31-03-2005, 14:09
OOC: This is Anagonia talking through Nodea Rudav. This Nation was founded in November of 2001 or 2002. I have proof of this by the many Veteran Nations that knew Nodea Rudav. If you have any questions, or deny the supremecy of Nodea Rudav, please contact Automagfreek and simply ask how long has he known Nodea Rudav.

Please tell him, if you do, that I suggested his name only because he's basically the only Legendary Nation that I know that remembers me.
OOC: To stop people assuming your nation isn't as big as it is, you may want to actually post with it or work out how to get it's account to work so you can post with it, but at least it exists (http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/66409/page=display_nation/nation=anagonia) so that much can be found.

In anycase the fact that your nation is revived means it's not quite got the statistics of a nation so old, which could be explained IC as a period of turmoil and isolation... we wouldn't concider you "Legendary" though, that requires legends that we know of.

IC:

Blockade? We weren't aware it had gotten to the stage where military vessels were actively blocking trade around Farmina... after all, an Embargo is pretty much just stopping your own trade to the other nation, not a military action designed to cut their trade off.

Until Skinny87 mentioned this we were unaware it had gone this far, could this be confirmed at all?

Foriegn Minister Mick Lakely, Iuthian Diplomatic Corps
Mondoth
01-04-2005, 00:33
"The Lord Prophet warns Mondoth to be careful when sinking ships coming from or going to Farmina. We still believe that we are free to trade with whomever we wish and sail our ships to whatever end of the world we should want to. We will not hesitate to take action against any nation that takes away that right and attacks ships flying the Vermini flag."

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<[Lord Yuri]>
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Durthangist Reich of Vermin

Your concerns are noted, ships flying the Vermini flag are are cautioned to keep any trips to Farmina as circumspect as possible, as per Mondothian stabding Military doctrine concerning naval blockades carried out by submarine forces, no flag is exempt, such an exemption is both technically dificult to observe and strategically unsound. if you wish, you may negotiate for a designated sea route to be left open for ships trading non militay goods, how ever all ships making use of the exemption route will be subject to searches performed by surface vessels of the Mondothian Navy. as of yet there is no exemption route through the Farminan exclusion zone. how ever we are open to negotions on this point.

Blockade? We weren't aware it had gotten to the stage where military vessels were actively blocking trade around Farmina... after all, an Embargo is pretty much just stopping your own trade to the other nation, not a military action designed to cut their trade off.

the nation of Mondoth has declared an economic/military exclusion zone around the rogue proince of Farmina, any ships caught within that zone will be destroyed on sight. (Currently the exclusion zone is patrolled by 2 Hunter/Killer sub packs (8 subs each) a surface task force is on its way to facilitate an exclusion route which will be traversable by prior agreement with Mondothian government only
The Lightning Star
01-04-2005, 01:24
Offical Statement by Carthaginian Government

We scoff at the threats made by the nation of Mondoth. We are currently sending 20 merchant vessels, laden with all sorts of supplies(including weapondry to defend from any assaults), to Farmina so that they feel as little strain because of this as possible. These vessels will be escorted by a battleship, 3 cruisers, and 7 frigates. Any shots fired on these vessels will result in the total obliteration of the Mondothian(is that right?) Navy. Yes, we can do that.

You have been warned.
Vrak
01-04-2005, 01:59
Somewhere in Vrak…

Translated from Vrakian.

-It looks like this embargo has now grown into full-scale war. Or at least some folks are quite eager to blow hot air.
-Indeed. Our trade traffic in Haven? I noticed that New Shiron has issued an advisory.
-Should be unaffected. We have little to no dealings with Hogsweat after we destroyed their navy outside Neo Tyr. And we have no relations with Farmina.
-Good. Continue to monitor this situation and send out the usual obligatory signals that Vrak is neutral in this affair. We have more pressing concerns, such as new members being added to the Klatch and dare I forgot, Santa Barbara and Clairmont.
-Quite right, sir. Just as an observation, the Hogsweatians attempted a similar propaganda attack with us. That is, they ejaculate half truths in order to have others rally to their cause.
-Hmmm. They tend to do that. I’ve heard that Farmina made copies of these incidents and sold them. Something like that.
-Yes, well, they are both pakrahs then.

[Both walruses chuckle and then after a few shots of scotch they amble back to their respective offices.]

====

To: the nations of Hogsweat and Farmina
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: inpending conflict

We have little to no trade with either of your nations, therefore we are neutral in your current disagreement. We have instructed that our cargo ships take a wide berth around both your states and are adjusting shipping lanes accordingly.

As well, we will not act as a third party for any nation to circumnavigate any embargoes or blockades. In turn, we ask that you respect ships flying Vrakian flags.

Thank you for your attention into this matter.

====

To: other concerned nations
From: Vrak Diplomatic Corps
Subject: impending conflict

We have little to no trade with either nation. Our shipping lanes are being adjusted to take this into account and to maintain our neutral stance. However, any military incursion upon any Vrakian ships will be answerable to the Vrakian military.

We thank you for your attention and hope that this issue can be resolved quickly to the satisfaction of both sides.
Mondoth
01-04-2005, 04:34
Offical Statement by Carthaginian Government

We scoff at the threats made by the nation of Mondoth. We are currently sending 20 merchant vessels, laden with all sorts of supplies(including weapondry to defend from any assaults), to Farmina so that they feel as little strain because of this as possible. These vessels will be escorted by a battleship, 3 cruisers, and 7 frigates. Any shots fired on these vessels will result in the total obliteration of the Mondothian(is that right?) Navy. Yes, we can do that.

You have been warned.

:: Statement from Mondothian Ministry of Naval Affairs::
As we mentioned to the Nation of Vermini, technical problems assosciated with contacting Submarine vessels and with differntiating between ships while submerged prevents us from offering exemptions until surface assets have arrived to secure an exepmtion route. If you wish to establish an exemption route, we would be willing to begin negotiations, until then we cannot guarentee the safety of any vessel travelling within the exclusion zone.

::Aboard the Shadow class SSGN Burning Tears::

We've got an alert from command, naval convoy approaching the exclusions zone... heavily armed...fire at will... all right, Light General Quarters, all sailors, Battle stations Missile.

the lighting in the sub changed from clean white to amber, signalling the sailors to get to their missile launch battle stations. Any sailors that were asleep were awakened when their bunks started vibrating. Aboard a submarine sound was anathema and so the Mondothian Navy had taken the practice of silence to an artform. Almost nothing on the ship made noise and even changes of alertness levels were accomplished without the quiet sirens that signalled such thngs in other navies.

Mr. Lennard, surface the boat please.

Aye sir, surfacing the boat.

The Shadow class missile submarine lived up to its name, surface, it appeared little more than a cloud shadow on the blue ocean waves. a pair of crew men appeared on deck, dressed to match the water they quickly set up the launcher for the Silent Crow class surveilance/targeting drone. in under a minute the drone was airborne, headed towards the calculated position of the convoy. Once the convoy was spotted, the actuall coordinates, and vector information were fed back to the sub.

Targets identified sir, Acquired, locked in.

Arm lots one through one hundred.

Lots one through one hundred armed sir.

Target warships with ten missiles each.

yessir, targets are locked in, information locked, terminal guidance systems programed.

Prepare to fire.
Farmina
01-04-2005, 07:18
The following treaty has been devised, and we offer Hogsweat the chance to sign it. I wish to waste no more time dealing with your nation, so I give you one final offer, before my patience is expended.

Emperor Justinian


All signitories will be at peace, under the following conditions:

1) Both the Hogsweatian and the Farminian government will recognize each other,

2) Both sides will stand down any offensive and defensive actions at once,

3) Farmina will promise to make no more large scale executions of criminals,

4) Hogsweat will recognize the executed as criminals first and foremost,

5) Hogsweat promises not to intervene in Farmina internal affairs as long as this treaty is upheld by Farmina,

6) Dumpsterdanian troops and inspectors already present in Farmina will oversee this treaty,

7) Both Farmina and Hogsweat will lift their economic embargoes at once,

8) That Hogsweat recognizes the fact, that the Farminian government has the right to implement the death sentence, as set so in their constitution, on criminals convicted of capital crimes,

9) Any further death sentences in Farmina will have to be approved by a neutral Dumpsterdanian observer, also these must sentences must be carried out using one of the following methods as shown below and in no way are these executions to be shown to other death-row inmates:

-Firing platoon
-Electric chair
-Gas chamber
-Lethal injection
Vastiva
01-04-2005, 07:38
The Hrstrovokian Federal Socialist Republic has extended the economic embargo to the following nations, who are directly co-operating and assisting the terrorist state of Farmina -

Merchant Guilds
Roach-busters
The Parthians
Doomsingsland

We recommend that those nations conducting an embargo against Farmina also include Merchant Guilds, Roach-busters, the Parthians and Doomsingsland.

Prime Minister Alexander Miroslav,
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia

"Are any of those nations buying from us?"
~checks~ "Indirectly, yes, sir."
"Ah. I see. Well then..." ~tears up suggestion by Hrstrovokia~
imported_Vermin
01-04-2005, 10:08
Your concerns are noted, ships flying the Vermini flag are are cautioned to keep any trips to Farmina as circumspect as possible, as per Mondothian stabding Military doctrine concerning naval blockades carried out by submarine forces, no flag is exempt, such an exemption is both technically dificult to observe and strategically unsound. if you wish, you may negotiate for a designated sea route to be left open for ships trading non militay goods, how ever all ships making use of the exemption route will be subject to searches performed by surface vessels of the Mondothian Navy. as of yet there is no exemption route through the Farminan exclusion zone. how ever we are open to negotions on this point.



the nation of Mondoth has declared an economic/military exclusion zone around the rogue proince of Farmina, any ships caught within that zone will be destroyed on sight. (Currently the exclusion zone is patrolled by 2 Hunter/Killer sub packs (8 subs each) a surface task force is on its way to facilitate an exclusion route which will be traversable by prior agreement with Mondothian government only

'All Vermini ships, of which some already left their Vermini harbor, will sail straight to Farmina, as we deem any other route inefficient. We do not ask you to allow our ships to pass, we demand it and expect you to accept that demand. Our ships will sail to Farmina with whatever goods we believe we can export or import from or to them. Even if these are weapons or resources that allow the production of weapons, we do not believe you have any right to deny us our trade."
"Having this said, you understand that we see no need for searches on our ships as you already know there is nothing secret about our cargo. We shall not have our ships stopped and searched by your navy. This is not only unnecessary and inefficient, no it is also sacrilege. The decks of our merchantvessels are Durthangist, without authorization of an official Durthangist agent, Kafirs* are not allowed to walk opun them."

"Because we do not trust you into accepting our demands we have ordered a mobilization of three escort fleets, each with a carrier, a battleship, twelve cruisers, seven Frigates and twentysix destroyers that will make a route into Farminan waters should this be required."

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<[Lord Yuri]>
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Durthangist Reich of Vermin

*: Kafir literally means infidel, non-believer.
Hallad
01-04-2005, 12:27
We're with you, comrades.

The Commissariat of Diplomacy
The Federated Workers' State of Hallad
Duke Barol
01-04-2005, 18:27
ooc:hehe, fun

IC: The dominion's government sees no problem will "deleting" criminals. We will supply 1 stealth airwing to the farminian cause if they deem necessary.

Agent 001


ooc:do you have a map of farmina and hogsweat if it comes to war?
Duke Barol
01-04-2005, 18:28
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<[Lord Yuri]>

i love ra2 and yuri's revenge
Kroblexskij
01-04-2005, 21:55
The decision has been raging the Krob government for many days now and they have finally come to an agreement


Charter of Engagment.
1.We will support the nation of Hogsweat and sign the Embargo as long as it is not lifted against Farmina.
2. Action taken against Hogsweat or nations singing the embargo will not be tollerated, no matter ther political alignment.
3. The Krob Forces and Diplomacy will RECOGNISE the International law surrounding the situation and will not continue if they feel their reputation is in danger or the civilian population of any country is at a great risk.
4. All Farmina or Considered enemy naval vessels shall be shadowed by Krob Navy yet treated as Friendly until noted as Hostile, When they leave Krob water claims they shall be left to their business.
5.All farmina or considered enemy aircraft shall be shadowed by Krob military aircraft but treated as participating in hostile actions, and may be escorted out of airspace, forced to land, make obligatry radio contact detailing plane identification and intentions or in the event of refusal shot down by ground or air units.
6.All Farmina or considered enemy units will be tracked by Krob Space Intelligence, and noted under Wartime Intelligence.
7. Only the signing of a new charter by the majority of the representing parties and members shall relive Kroblexskij from action. in the event of a draw the voting population may decide to continue action or for peace.
8. All of Charter will be taken into account as of three (RP) days after the public release of the charter and official announcment of it.

we hope that all nations in this Intenational situation will recognise this and accept the rules of Krob engagement.

signed by all members of the State and County Political Representatives.

Foreign affairs Minister Shaklik' in a public meeting after the release of Kroblexskij's Intentions on the troubling Farmina situation
http://img132.exs.cx/img132/5342/12ob.jpg

OOC you better recognise them because it took a long time, and yet is probably very boring.
Wolfish
01-04-2005, 22:09
*Those with satellite capabilities will note that a convoy of container vessels have departed Wolfhair Island naval base, and have set course for Farmina.*

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Runway/9601/convoy.jpg

*The convoy is composed of 100 ships, including oil tankers, grain haulers, container vessels and 3 Frigate sized escorts.*
The Lightning Star
01-04-2005, 22:35
On board the C.I.S. Boulderfist

On the bridge of the Boulderfist, Rear Admiral Hanno looked over the room. Computers terminals were everywhere. Ever since the Technocrats had been ushered into power, the entire country had been computerized, including the ships. The Boulderfist, a proto-type, was one giant, floating, armed, and manned computer. It had cost over $400,000,000,000 , but that was worth it. All aspects of the ship had been computerized: the weapons, the temperature, the engines. In fact, the crew was only there for smaller weapons, maintanence, to protect from boardins, repairs, and if something broke down in the heat of battle it could be controlled manually. The ship itself was on auto-pilot, and escorted the convoy perfectly.

"Sir, the computer has noticed something in the distance!" exclaimed one of the techies who watched the computers. "What is it?" responded the Rear Admiral in a calm voice. "Well, we aren't sure, but we think-- oh shit!

"What is it?" repeated the RA, this time a bit unnerved.

"Sir, torpedoes incoming towards the convoy!"

Although he was shocked, the RA quickly took action. "I want all of our Sea Kings to get those submarines! Activate Anti-torpedo weapondry, and put all ships on alert!"

Seconds later, explosions rocked the ship. Although the AT weapons had taken out 70% of the torpedoes, one of the frigates had been heavily damaged, as well as other ones.

"Get high command on the line. Now!"
Mondoth
02-04-2005, 00:29
On board the C.I.S. Boulderfist

On the bridge of the Boulderfist, Rear Admiral Hanno looked over the room. Computers terminals were everywhere. Ever since the Technocrats had been ushered into power, the entire country had been computerized, including the ships. The Boulderfist, a proto-type, was one giant, floating, armed, and manned computer. It had cost over $400,000,000,000 , but that was worth it. All aspects of the ship had been computerized: the weapons, the temperature, the engines. In fact, the crew was only there for smaller weapons, maintanence, to protect from boardins, repairs, and if something broke down in the heat of battle it could be controlled manually. The ship itself was on auto-pilot, and escorted the convoy perfectly.

"Sir, the computer has noticed something in the distance!" exclaimed one of the techies who watched the computers. "What is it?" responded the Rear Admiral in a calm voice. "Well, we aren't sure, but we think-- oh shit!

"What is it?" repeated the RA, this time a bit unnerved.

"Sir, torpedoes incoming towards the convoy!"

Although he was shocked, the RA quickly took action. "I want all of our Sea Kings to get those submarines! Activate Anti-torpedo weapondry, and put all ships on alert!"

Seconds later, explosions rocked the ship. Although the AT weapons had taken out 70% of the torpedoes, one of the frigates had been heavily damaged, as well as other ones.

"Get high command on the line. Now!"


whos launching torpedoes? last I heard I had the only boats in the water and they haven't launched yet, Burning tears is over the horizon about to launch a missiles barrage but no torpedoes.

:Aboard the Shadow class SSGN Burning Tears:

Sir, authorization to fire is confirmed.

Commence firing.

the subs deck erupted in flame as one hundred Shrike class cruise missiles ignited their booster stage rockets propelling the missiles to ignition speed for the Shrak M-12 SCRAMjet thrusters, as the missiles came to speed the booster stages dropped into the water and the missiles erupted to mach 8, once within anti missile systems range they activated their integral all bands radar jamming systems and along the sides small strips of solid rocket proppellant placed psuedo randomly along the missiles ignited in series pushing the missiles in random direction but maintaining a heading towards their targets, two missiles lost their targets but the terminal phase guidance systems locked onto a pair of merchant ships.

Dive, Dive! Rig the boat for ultraquiet.

the submarines quickly submerged, once comfortably in the depths the reactor went to low power, non essential machines shut down and the sub drifted, throughout the ship strategically placed counter sound generators came online muting the noise of essential machines and reactor pumps. the sub drifted.


:Blanket transmission to all ships aproaching Farmina with intent to trade or render military aid.:

The Fourth Defense fleet and third bombardment fleet have arrived at the Farminian Exclusion zone, all ships are required to stop for inspection before entering the exclusion zone, once inspected they will be provided with a safe route to their destination. Any ships deviating from this course or attempting to enter the exclusion zone without stopping for inspection will be destroyed.

OOC: A bombardment fleet has ten arsenal ships for a total missile launch capability of 4,000 missiles a minute, just sayin...
Freudotopia
02-04-2005, 00:39
We'll make this simple: Farmina is right and Hogseat is wrong. Everyone can go home now, We've passed judgement. Nothing to see here, move along.

--Raphael Gugliotta, Minister of Judging other Nations' Actions

--Gregor Ivonovitch Smith, Minister of Pissing Off Socialists

--Jason Voorhees, Minister of Slashing

--Saul Hudson, Emperor of the Ruthless Imperium of Freudotopia
The Lightning Star
02-04-2005, 02:28
whos launching torpedoes? last I heard I had the only boats in the water and they haven't launched yet, Burning tears is over the horizon about to launch a missiles barrage but no torpedoes.

:Aboard the Shadow class SSGN Burning Tears:

Sir, authorization to fire is confirmed.

Commence firing.

the subs deck erupted in flame as one hundred Shrike class cruise missiles ignited their booster stage rockets propelling the missiles to ignition speed for the Shrak M-12 SCRAMjet thrusters, as the missiles came to speed the booster stages dropped into the water and the missiles erupted to mach 8, once within anti missile systems range they activated their integral all bands radar jamming systems and along the sides small strips of solid rocket proppellant placed psuedo randomly along the missiles ignited in series pushing the missiles in random direction but maintaining a heading towards their targets, two missiles lost their targets but the terminal phase guidance systems locked onto a pair of merchant ships.

Dive, Dive! Rig the boat for ultraquiet.

the submarines quickly submerged, once comfortably in the depths the reactor went to low power, non essential machines shut down and the sub drifted, throughout the ship strategically placed counter sound generators came online muting the noise of essential machines and reactor pumps. the sub drifted.


:Blanket transmission to all ships aproaching Farmina with intent to trade or render military aid.:

The Fourth Defense fleet and third bombardment fleet have arrived at the Farminian Exclusion zone, all ships are required to stop for inspection before entering the exclusion zone, once inspected they will be provided with a safe route to their destination. Any ships deviating from this course or attempting to enter the exclusion zone without stopping for inspection will be destroyed.

OOC: A bombardment fleet has ten arsenal ships for a total missile launch capability of 4,000 missiles a minute, just sayin...


OOC: What? Your a submarine but j00 don't use torpedos?

Well, let's just say you did. You'll inflict extra damage.

And 4,000 missiles per second? That is an Uber-god mod!

Unless they are itsy-bitsy missiles.


IC:
On board the Boulderfist

As the Rear Admiral rose from the floor after the shock of the torpedos wore off, he noticed a swarm of small missiles coming towards the fleet. "Initiate defensive measures!" he screamed as the ships guns fired at the missiles. Hundreds exploded in mid-air, but many hit the hull of the ship. The front of the ship had been severly damaged, and all of the other ships had been damaged as well. Screams could be heard all over the place. The ship carrying military supplies exploded in a large fireball, and debris fell everywhere. It seemed that the Boulderfist was the only ship strong enough to survive.

Finally, the Comm-link with the Parliament was made, and the RA made his report.

In the Carthaginian Parliament

After the Rear Admiral made his report and signed out, the Parliament was up in arms. "This is an outrage! This insolent nation has destroyed our ships! We must retaliate at once!" yelled a Representative Mahmoud, from Punjab. All of the representatives cheered in response. Although Carthage had expected some angry actions towards their nation, they had never expected that Mondoth would actually go though with their plan. However, Carthage would respond according to what it had promised: The destruction of all of Mondoth's naval forces. No Warning. No Mercy. No Ambiguity.

Deep in the Carthaginian Desert

"So...we finally get to test our new muscle, eh?" laughed Colonel Ackbar as he read the order sent by high command. Although he was in the middle of nowhere, this base was the headquarters of Carthage's missile response system. Now that he had been given the order, Ackbar ordered that the nations satellites find all Mondothian ships. Within 20 minutes, they had, and their coordinates were fed into the computer. Of course, the Zafar-Class Cruise missiles would miss a few ships, but they would hit most of their targets. All of the ships that were hit would be heavily damaged, and quite a few would be destroyed.

"Sir, all missiles are ready!"

Grinning, Ackbar said the word he had been waiting to say his entire carreer.

"Fire"

OOC: This thread continues Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409568)
Jamum
02-04-2005, 02:45
The Empire of Jamum will sign an embargo against Farmina and will gladly help in any war that may result.

# The empire of Jamum holds the right to withdraw from this alliance if necessary

# we offer Jamum's combined air land and sea power to help in any blockade that may be imposed

# Jamum offers to all nations who sign this treaty refugee housing from any war which may result

# In the event of nuclear, chemical or biological warfare Jamum will not be under any military and economic obligations

# Jamum holds no responsibility to aid in the reconstruction of any nation after a resulting war

# Jamum holds the right to keep any land it captures in the nation of Farmina and her allies.
The Lightning Star
02-04-2005, 03:11
The Empire of Jamum will sign an embargo against Farmina and will gladly help in any war that may result.

# The empire of Jamum holds the right to withdraw from this alliance if necessary

# we offer Jamum's combined air land and sea power to help in any blockade that may be imposed

# Jamum offers to all nations who sign this treaty refugee housing from any war which may result

# In the event of nuclear, chemical or biological warfare Jamum will not be under any military and economic obligations

# Jamum holds no responsibility to aid in the reconstruction of any nation after a resulting war

# Jamum holds the right to keep any land it captures in the nation of Farmina and her allies.

Sigh, looks like we have another nation to bomb...
Farmina
02-04-2005, 03:15
Farmina will keep any land it captures from Jamum after the war and Farmina has no interest in reconstructing Jamum after the war.

Takes two to tango.

Thomas Goth
Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs
Mondoth
03-04-2005, 03:23
OOC: What? Your a submarine but j00 don't use torpedos?

Well, let's just say you did. You'll inflict extra damage.

And 4,000 missiles per second? That is an Uber-god mod!

Unless they are itsy-bitsy missiles.


IC:
On board the Boulderfist

As the Rear Admiral rose from the floor after the shock of the torpedos wore off, he noticed a swarm of small missiles coming towards the fleet. "Initiate defensive measures!" he screamed as the ships guns fired at the missiles. Hundreds exploded in mid-air, but many hit the hull of the ship. The front of the ship had been severly damaged, and all of the other ships had been damaged as well. Screams could be heard all over the place. The ship carrying military supplies exploded in a large fireball, and debris fell everywhere. It seemed that the Boulderfist was the only ship strong enough to survive.

Finally, the Comm-link with the Parliament was made, and the RA made his report.

In the Carthaginian Parliament

After the Rear Admiral made his report and signed out, the Parliament was up in arms. "This is an outrage! This insolent nation has destroyed our ships! We must retaliate at once!" yelled a Representative Mahmoud, from Punjab. All of the representatives cheered in response. Although Carthage had expected some angry actions towards their nation, they had never expected that Mondoth would actually go though with their plan. However, Carthage would respond according to what it had promised: The destruction of all of Mondoth's naval forces. No Warning. No Mercy. No Ambiguity.

Deep in the Carthaginian Desert

"So...we finally get to test our new muscle, eh?" laughed Colonel Ackbar as he read the order sent by high command. Although he was in the middle of nowhere, this base was the headquarters of Carthage's missile response system. Now that he had been given the order, Ackbar ordered that the nations satellites find all Mondothian ships. Within 20 minutes, they had, and their coordinates were fed into the computer. Of course, the Zafar-Class Cruise missiles would miss a few ships, but they would hit most of their targets. All of the ships that were hit would be heavily damaged, and quite a few would be destroyed.

"Sir, all missiles are ready!"

Grinning, Ackbar said the word he had been waiting to say his entire carreer.

"Fire"

OOC: This thread continues Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409568)

Uhm... Its a guided MISSILE submarine, that means that it carries cruise missiles as well as torpedoes.

The sub fired 100 missiles at ten ships.

My FLEET fires 4,000 missiles a MINUTE, and thats perfectly plausible as each of the ten arsenal ships (an arsenal ships means a hull and a crapload of missiles with an engine or two to getall the missiles from point A to point B, each one has 800 missiles ready to fire and ca fire 200 missiles everythirty seconds, add it up and that means 4,000 missiles a minute, and I will not hesitate to use them

::Aboard the Author class Fleet Supply vessel Edgar Allen Poe::

Missiles inbound from the remaining Lightning Star fleet, unknknown count at this time, waiting till they get a little closer for better resolution,(OOC: you never said how many you launched) Flight patterns indicate that Zafur missile thingy, less acurate than most of our stuff but holy shit does have a punch.

Elevate fleet alert status, tell the Barriers to light up those big ass radars and tune em in. and set the mojaves to screen. do thos emissiles have terminal guidance or are they dumb?

looks like a limited terminal guidance from our intelligance sources but we don't have the plans.

Move everything just to be sure, I don't want any ship to be where it was in the last call it three hours, and get those barriers to the front.
Fascist Confederacy
03-04-2005, 03:42
OOC: Matt, please add me to the list. You forgot to.
Polskay
03-04-2005, 03:58
We, The Grand Duchy Of Polskay, herby impose an economic embargo on Farmina. This entails baring of the Artic passege to all Farminan ships, goverment or otherwise.

We apologize, but we currently do not have the ability to make war with another nation, as our forces are small.

-Grand Duke Lukas Mouzer and Cabinet
Gyrobot
03-04-2005, 04:31
I will sign this in the name of freedom.
The Lightning Star
03-04-2005, 04:35
Uhm... Its a guided MISSILE submarine, that means that it carries cruise missiles as well as torpedoes.

The sub fired 100 missiles at ten ships.

My FLEET fires 4,000 missiles a MINUTE, and thats perfectly plausible as each of the ten arsenal ships (an arsenal ships means a hull and a crapload of missiles with an engine or two to getall the missiles from point A to point B, each one has 800 missiles ready to fire and ca fire 200 missiles everythirty seconds, add it up and that means 4,000 missiles a minute, and I will not hesitate to use them

::Aboard the Author class Fleet Supply vessel Edgar Allen Poe::

Missiles inbound from the remaining Lightning Star fleet, unknknown count at this time, waiting till they get a little closer for better resolution,(OOC: you never said how many you launched) Flight patterns indicate that Zafur missile thingy, less acurate than most of our stuff but holy shit does have a punch.

Elevate fleet alert status, tell the Barriers to light up those big ass radars and tune em in. and set the mojaves to screen. do thos emissiles have terminal guidance or are they dumb?

looks like a limited terminal guidance from our intelligance sources but we don't have the plans.

Move everything just to be sure, I don't want any ship to be where it was in the last call it three hours, and get those barriers to the front.


OOC: But how many missiles does your fleet have. 4,000 is a huge amount, so you can't go on for more than about 5 minutes before exausting all of your missiles.

Oh, and those ships you destroyed? That took out, oh..., maybe 0.5% of my navy. And the missiles were fired from Land.

Oh, and post on the other thread, please(i gave the link in my previous post)
Polskay
03-04-2005, 04:47
"Are any of those nations buying from us?"


The Grand Duchy Of Polskay extends the economic embargo to the suggested nations. Also, the carrier task force AVALANCHE is now ready to make war on Farmina and it's shipping.

OOC: The following list is to IC information to those opposing Farmina. It's OOC info to Farmina and it's allies, unless they inquire with spy planes/ subs.

IC:

Task Force AVALANCHE
1 Nimitz class aircraft carrier
-48 F/A-18 Hornets
-four E-2C AEW
-four E-A6B SEAD/EW
-eight S-3B
-two Es-3A
-six H-60
2 Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers
1 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer
3 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
2 Los Angeles class attack submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

They have departed from their home base on the island of Sol Spreck and will arive in Farminan waters in 3 days.
Vastiva
03-04-2005, 06:20
~reads the announcement~

"Are we being embargoed?"
~checks~ "No, sir."
"Is Hogsweat still buying our oil?"
"Yes, sir."
"Excellent. How about the other side."
~checks~ "Yes, several are purchasing various things from subsidy and related companies. But not oil."
"Not oil?"
"No, sir."
"Hmmm. But they are buying."
"Yes, sir."
"Very well. Make the usual noise through our agents, have some patriotic clearance sales, all the normal activities."
"Yes, sir. Er, sir?"
"What?"
"Are we on anyone's side in this?"
"Yes. Ours."
"Just checking, sir."




OOC: Capitalism. When you absolutely need to sell whatever to whomever is buying. :D
Farmina
03-04-2005, 06:23
The Grand Duchy Of Polskay extends the economic embargo to the suggested nations. Also, the carrier task force AVALANCHE is now ready to make war on Farmina and it's shipping.

OOC: The following list is to IC information to those opposing Farmina. It's OOC info to Farmina and it's allies, unless they inquire with spy planes/ subs.

IC:

Task Force AVALANCHE
1 Nimitz class aircraft carrier
-48 F/A-18 Hornets
-four E-2C AEW
-four E-A6B SEAD/EW
-eight S-3B
-two Es-3A
-six H-60
2 Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers
1 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer
3 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
2 Los Angeles class attack submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

They have departed from their home base on the island of Sol Spreck and will arive in Farminan waters in 3 days.
OOC:
That fleet is way to big for your nation, even if it is everything in your nation.
Velkya
03-04-2005, 07:28
We wish to sign this treaty as well. In fact, I may just take it a step furthur...
Polskay
03-04-2005, 09:48
OOC:
That fleet is way to big for your nation, even if it is everything in your nation.

Where in heavy debt to Bonstock Bank,Inc. Heeeeavy. All of our military budget has been commited to buying:
2 Gurilla Army Packages
1 Motorized Division Package
3 Ground Bases
3 Naval Bases
3 Fighter/Bomber Wings
3 Airbases.
3 Carrier Task Forces

All from Bonstock.
Farmina
03-04-2005, 10:04
OOC: The more indepth response was on the other thread Polsky. I'm still ignoring it, unless you can prove you can make the interest payments.
Mondoth
04-04-2005, 01:14
OOC: But how many missiles does your fleet have. 4,000 is a huge amount, so you can't go on for more than about 5 minutes before exausting all of your missiles.

Oh, and those ships you destroyed? That took out, oh..., maybe 0.5% of my navy. And the missiles were fired from Land.

Oh, and post on the other thread, please(i gave the link in my previous post)

OOC: I'd just as soon keep it here, I'm all ready keeping track of three threads for this war, two thread for a war I'm running with a puppet and two seperate sets of TG's relating to both wars, I'd rather limit what I have to keep up with if its all righ with you
The fleet has enough cruise missiles for two full loads and one full load of surface to air missiles, a full load is 8,000 missiles. They're a fairly cheap design, and we manufacture them ourselves in HUGE production runs with rather inexpensive labor, so while maintaining such a huge number of missiles is a bit of a strain, they are our primary weapon and it doesn't strain us much more than America's twelve Aircraft carriers and its nuclear arsenal stair them. (We maintain a single ICBM for use against health hazards (Outbreaks that could make their way to our populace) our strategic missiles are delivered strictly via modified crews missiles with inter-continental capability)