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OOC: The below mentioned events were once off, relating to criminals. Constitutional amendments have been put in place to prevent a repeat.

IC: Rings of barbed wire littered the fields at dawn. The day would see the fields of Mirea soaked in blood. The eight hundred thousand Socialist prisoners were already amassed, thousands of military and police had the sight secure. The media was already on site for the day’s events, cameras covering every inch, with orders made for one in every tent and a crowd was beginning to amass to watch the event.

The Socialists in the prisons of wire varied in age from infants to the elderly. Each wore a red badge stating name and crime to mark them out for execution. Children and adults cried alike, stripped over everything, but their final under garments.

“We need a tent for the Emperor,” said yelled a Captain. He walked over to one of the groups of prisoners.

“I want four Class Three prisoners with me,” he said gesturing at them with his gun, to come through the gap in the wire.

Three men and a boy emerged and the Captain pointed them over to where a pair of Privates were struggling with the tent. “All right each prisoner grab corner of the tent,” said the Captain.

Each prisoner did, although one did ask, “This isn’t a great way of doing it.”

“It’s the way we are doing it,” said the Captain, noticing that a third Private had joined him.

All the four military men picked up the large metal pegs, tied the rope around it and then grabbed a hammer.

The Captain looked at the Socialist he was standing behind with complete disdain. He held up the peg, knocking it swiftly with the hammer straight through the man’s spine. The others soldiers followed suit. The Captain hammered again, shoving the peg through the man’s chest. As the man lay bleeding and dead on the floor, the final blow came, pegging the tent securely to the ground. “Now you’ve seen how its done, I want all the tents pegged up this way.”

It had begun.

Justinian arrived shortly afterwards, to find four bodies, including that of a young boy, at the base of his tent, to which he commented, “Well there are a lot of them to kill. Get me a Class 2 prisoners and their family.”

When the guards returned with Justinian’s request he had already started a nice fire. “Prisoner,” began Justinian, “Strangle your family to death.”
“Never,” replied the Class 2.
“Very well,” said Justinian, grabbing a hot iron the fire.
“Your wife is very pretty,” said Justinian, who then slammed the hot iron into the woman’s left cheek.
She made a piecing scream. Again Justinian burnt her, this time on her belly. She continued to wail, when Justinian motioned for her bra to be removed. It was, and he struck again with iron, this time on her right breast. She screamed yet more. He pulled back the iron, before ramming it so hard against her chest she fell backwards into the fire, but he continued to hold down the iron against her, holding her in the flames as she withered and screamed until she stopped.

Justinian dropped the end of the iron into the fire to reheat before looking over at the remaining man and children. “You could have saved her all that pain,” he said shaking his head. Justinian then turned to the children, who were crying profusely, “They shouldn’t suffer.”
It was with this Justinian pulled out his pistol and shot both of the children in the head. He then looked over to the Class 2 prisoner, “Stay here, if you leave you shall be tortured as though you were a Class 1.”

Justinian then walked out of his tent, to hear a sudden series of wails. He looked up to see artillery shells falling from the sky onto one of the larger Class 3 pens. He gave a small nod of approval remembering that he had allocated many of the large Class 3 pens for training and testing.

Justinian’s guards escorted him over to the boxing rings, where elite boxers were paid large sums of money to beat socialist prisoners to death. It wasn’t something that particularly took his fancy. He left the ring he was watching, as the boxer began to pulverize an 80 year old Class 3 woman.

On the way back he and his guards stopped to watch several Socialists being burnt at the stake, and end that was much more to his liking.

After that Justinian returned to his tent to find his prisoner still there, and his wife’s body smoldering on the now out fire.

“Eat her,” ordered Justinian.

“No,” said the socialist, who began the painful process of strangling himself to death.

Suddenly he collapsed, alive, but without the energy to finish himself off. Justinian looked over to one of the tent guards before handing him the iron of the fire, “Take five minutes then kill him.”

Justinian and his personal again left his tent. On the way to Cardinal Treid’s tent, he heard a sudden series of shots from the far side of the ‘carnival.’ That probably meant a group of prisoners had just tried to escape.

Upon arriving he saw, what had been issued as standard punishment for a Class 1, slow mutilation while alive. Cardinal Treid’s personal guard had cut the Socialist’s foot open and were slowly scrapping of the nerve cells, one by one, a process that could take hours.

Justinian continued around for the rest of the day, watching and observing absurd deaths.

At five o’clock, everything stopped for Justinian’s brief address: “I hope all people have learnt from today what will and must happen to those who subvert the rule of law and God, those who take up the foul practice of Socialism. A million Socialists will be dead so you can live free and clean. All the Class 1 and 2 prisoners are dead, painfully most of the time. Only Class 3 prisoners remain which will be finished off by the military. The rest of you must leave, but the rest of the events will be transmitted by pre-placed cameras. These lands shall be sacred for the evil blood spilt here. The land shall have a permanent taint, so that we can be cleaner. This is a holy site, the Fields of Blood."

By six, civilians had left and the military moved in. Thousands of tanks, with bulldozer attachments prepared to move in, backed by infantry. Perimeter guards in place just in case. Artillery shells rained down on the fields to cause chaos, anarchy and fear.

The tanks and infantry fired on any socialist still alive, moving slowly through the area. Any corpses were crushed under the monstrous tanks, and human feet showed just as little respect. Those still alive were almost certainly crushed. Some Socialists tried to flee, but just ran into other soldiers, dieing in a rain of gunfire.

Once all was thought dead, the digging equipment moved in, although the patrols continued, hunting out a few who managed to escape. Huge holes were dug in the ground. Then the tanks did their true duty. The bodies of the dead, the barbed wire, the ruined tents, were all pushed indiscriminately into the holes. The infantry got out of the way, not wanting to join the corpses. The holes filled and more were dug for the lifeless and often greatly damaged bodies. By midnight the eight hundred thousand were buried.

In the morning the blood could still be seen. The Fields of Blood was an appropiate name.

OOC: This is actually part of Fear, Death and Fascism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408635). I would appreciate anyone who reads that thread and gives an IC or OOC comment.

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(Awesome post, Farmina.)

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(Awesome post, Farmina.)

I was going to make it long, and have much more detailed mutilations and refer to children screaming as the were crushed by the tanks, but it would never have ended.

And thank you.

Up to the top.

Come on, condemn, congratulate, POINT OUT SPELLING MISTAKES.

While we neither condemn nor condone your actions we must point out the economic hinderence of slaughtering a million citizens, especially in such an extravegent manner. It would have been far better to either sell the socialists or put them in workcamps, and torture only the worst offenders.

OOC: Tag - I'll post Krioval's response after our earlier dealings are over.

::Official Statement from The Mondothian Ministry of International Affairs::

We view the actions of Farmina with the utmost disgust and hereby withdraw official recognition of its government and claim Farmina as a rogue province of Mondoth, we invite all right thinking nations to support us in establishing an Exclusion zone around the rogue province of Farmina. We are disgusted that people like this could could come to power and will forthwith expedite forces to right this wrong. For truthfully not even Hitler, Stalin or Mao have comitted acts as attrocious as those that we have seen agents of the false Farminian government perpetrate. These deplorable acts violate the most basic human rights to an unimaginable extent and those who condone these actions must be destroyed. Any nation that aids us in bringing the rogue province of Farmina under control will receive a portion of land and most favored nation trade status with Mondoth status (20% discount at my storefront and access to Modnothian markets, we are also a net exporter of oil) for their aid against these monsters.

OOC: got any maps of your 'nation' o an idea what it looks like so this can be done properly?

The Confederacy of Drinent, lead by Führer Vaulter Vein Valknein, supports Mondoth in his desicion upon this matter. We will continue to monitor the situation, and we may lend aide to Mondoth. For now we shall only watch the situation to see what may develop from these actions.

While we neither condemn nor condone your actions we must point out the economic hinderence of slaughtering a million citizens, especially in such an extravegent manner. It would have been far better to either sell the socialists or put them in workcamps, and torture only the worst offenders.

This was a political decision, not an economic one. A display of this magnitude, where fairy floss was sold, while hundreds died in a minute, could not be recreated through workcamps and slavery.

Emperor Justinian

::Official Statement from The Mondothian Ministry of International Affairs::

We view the actions of Farmina with the utmost disgust and hereby withdraw official recognition of its government and claim Farmina as a rogue province of Mondoth, we invite all right thinking nations to support us in establishing an Exclusion zone around the rogue province of Farmina. We are disgusted that people like this could could come to power and will forthwith expedite forces to right this wrong. For truthfully not even Hitler, Stalin or Mao have comitted acts as attrocious as those that we have seen agents of the false Farminian government perpetrate. These deplorable acts violate the most basic human rights to an unimaginable extent and those who condone these actions must be destroyed. Any nation that aids us in bringing the rogue province of Farmina under control will receive a portion of land and most favored nation trade status with Mondoth status (20% discount at my storefront and access to Modnothian markets, we are also a net exporter of oil) for their aid against these monsters.

OOC: got any maps of your 'nation' o an idea what it looks like so this can be done properly?

OOC: No maps, just a rough description.

IC:
If you are planning to attack our nation you are indeed foolish. The Farminan military is currently at full mobilisation. We can most certainly put off other campaigns to deal with you.

If you do not backdown, we shall have to contact our vast and powerful allies, although we feel that we can deal with you on our own.

I shalln't warn you again.

Emperor Justinian

The Confederacy of Drinent, lead by Führer Vaulter Vein Valknein, supports Mondoth in his desicion upon this matter. We will continue to monitor the situation, and we may lend aide to Mondoth. For now we shall only watch the situation to see what may develop from these actions.

Supply aide to Mondoth that will assist military action and it shall be considered an act of war. The consequence being I shall eat you for lunch.

Emperor Justinian

official statement from the Samaranian State Depatment:

The Samranian Government Fully supports Mondoth and will commit forces to Mondoth's aid once hostilities have begun.

Official Response; The Government
To call these acts barbaric would be an insult to barbaric people.
But, sadly, this is the sort of behaviour we have come to expect from Farmina.
May God have mercy for your inhumanity.

As for Mondoth's action, and the matter of military action, we shall, as always, adhere strictly to our neutralist policies, and take no sides.

Although Justinian's threats of cannibalism are somewhat disturbing.

- Ministry Of External Affairs.

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Official Response: The Church
We rather doubt that God will be merciful.
It's been arranged.

We have no position on Mondoth's actions, save to say that they shall do as they shall do.

- Church Spokesman

official statement from the Samaranian State Depatment:

The Samranian Government Fully supports Mondoth and will commit forces to Mondoth's aid once hostilities have begun.

Why are small nations so insistent on plotting against us, when we and our allies are so much larger. It provides great deals of humour for the military.

Sumpreme Commander Bashar

Official Response; The Government
To call these acts barbaric would be an insult to barbaric people.
But, sadly, this is the sort of behaviour we have come to expect from Farmina.
May God have mercy for your inhumanity.

As for Mondoth's action, and the matter of military action, we shall, as always, adhere strictly to our neutralist policies, and take no sides.

Although Justinian's threats of cannibalism are somewhat disturbing.

- Ministry Of External Affairs.

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Official Response: The Church
We rather doubt that God will be merciful.
It's been arranged.

We have no position on Mondoth's actions, save to say that they shall do as they shall do.

- Church Spokesman

You seem to not realise that the threat posed by Socialism. Have you seen the rot, the death, it can cause. This is a standard, acceptable measure considering the greater cost.

Emperor Justinian



Although some punishments may be over the top, these killings can be barely be counted as murder, barely culling demons in humanities midst.

Socialism would have been condemned in the Bible if Marx had lived in Jesus's time.

As for Maciskan's Church's comments, it sounds too much like Calvinism to be considered anywhere near Christian.

Pope Thomas James Wurts
Grey Catholic Church of God

::Council of Liberal Robenian Diplomatic Relations::

The Fascist Nation of Liberal Robenia condemns the actions taken by The Holy Empire of Farmina, and hereby must support the decision by The Republic of Mondoth. We offer our support in any way.

OOC: This isn't another small nation, bud :-p

::Council of Liberal Robenian Diplomatic Relations::

The Fascist Nation of Liberal Robenia condemns the actions taken by The Holy Empire of Farmina, and hereby must support the decision by The Republic of Mondoth. We offer our support in any way.

Our Fascist party voted in favour of the allowing executions for these crimes.
And could you all stop pestering me, its not like some of the Shah's slaughters.

Emperor Justinian

OOC: was gonna do a longer IC post but it got lost in the server. so for starters I'd like a description of the geography of Farmina so this thing can get started right

The Empire will deal with Farmina in due time, when our other commitments allow us. We urge Farmina to cease any sort of random slaughter at this time, so that they can make up their promises to their allies while not being invaded.

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Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

The Empire will deal with Farmina in due time, when our other commitments allow us. We urge Farmina to cease any sort of random slaughter at this time, so that they can make up their promises to their allies while not being invaded.

Erik Solar,
Imperial Councillor,
Minister of Foreign Affairs.

The slaughter wasn't random, it was extremely targeted. We don't go killing people because we have nothing better to do.

Emperor Justinian

OOC: was gonna do a longer IC post but it got lost in the server. so for starters I'd like a description of the geography of Farmina so this thing can get started right

Well it looks like a box, the north and south coasts are about twice as long as the east and west. The ruins of the Golden abbey lie in the middle of the coast. Verica (the new capital) lies reasonably inland off east coast. The south coast is the most heavily populated, sprawling with cities. The north is not accessible since it is very nasty cliffs. The east and west side has some forest and farmland, but there are some patches of cities.

The middle is desert and the north is like Dover.

By the way, I attack me and will make you into minced meat.

We, the Alexonium Foreign Ministry is quite outraged to say the least, considering that the current Foreign Minister is a socialist. It has withdrawn all non-essential personel from embassies and issued an advisory for all citizens of Alexonium not to travel there.

In our last election, the Socialists recieved 23% of the vote. We applaud the fact that in a free economy those who are concerned for the welfare of the working class voice their oppinions.

We consider this act genoside, and categorically denounce this act as barbaric and inhumane. We would have gladly accepted them as refugees, as we do all others who are persecuted for their beliefs be it political or religious.

In response, we have reccomended to the Legislature that economic sanctions and travel resrictions for Farmian nationals. We also invite the remaining socialists to settle on our soil.

-Aesir Van Der Goude, Foreign minister

We, the Alexonium Foreign Ministry is quite outraged to say the least, considering that the current Foreign Minister is a socialist. It has withdrawn all non-essential personel from embassies and issued an advisory for all citizens of Alexonium not to travel there.

In our last election, the Socialists recieved 23% of the vote. We applaud the fact that in a free economy those who are concerned for the welfare of the working class voice their oppinions.

We consider this act genoside, and categorically denounce this act as barbaric and inhumane. We would have gladly accepted them as refugees, as we do all others who are persecuted for their beliefs be it political or religious.

In response, we have reccomended to the Legislature that economic sanctions and travel resrictions for Farmian nationals. We also invite the remaining socialists to settle on our soil.

-Aesir Van Der Goude, Foreign minister

Why do you foriegners never check your facts? Most of our Socialists are alive and well. However there existed a large criminal element with in the Socialist Block and its supporters. In Farmina there is a death penalty for a great deal of crimes.

And genocide is against a race, there is no race called Socialists.

Emperor Justinian

Why do you foriegners never check your facts? Most of our Socialists are alive and well. However there existed a large criminal element with in the Socialist Block and its supporters. In Farmina there is a death penalty for a great deal of crimes.

And genocide is against a race, there is no race called Socialists.

Emperor Justinian

Au contrair, Justinian, last I checked, Webster said 'genocide' is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group. You are attempting to destroy them by mass intimidation. We have obtained reports from refugees that quite a few of them have been found dead after evening hours, as well as mass lay-offs from any positions they may hold.

You, sir, are a wicked man too might I add. You could take a lesson from our own Emir Alex I, who would sooner take a knife upon himself than harm someone else without reason.

-Aesir Van Der Goude

Au contrair, Justinian, last I checked, Webster said 'genocide' is the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group. You are attempting to destroy them by mass intimidation. We have obtained reports from refugees that quite a few of them have been found dead after evening hours, as well as mass lay-offs from any positions they may hold.

You, sir, are a wicked man too might I add. You could take a lesson from our own Emir Alex I, who would sooner take a knife upon himself than harm someone else without reason.

-Aesir Van Der Goude
OOC: If you had checked the other thread, you would find it quite clear that the executions were relating entirely to criminals.
IC:

What refugees don't be absurd man. No one is fleeing the country but rich Conservatives trying to escape the far-right.

And to destroy a political group would have to kill all of them, considering 90% are still alive. And by you definition of genocide, I am trying to destroy a cultural group, criminals. I don't know about you, but it is a cultural group I can do without.

Your reports about mass layoffs, and other deaths are also innaccurate. We are very strict on these things.

Please get your facts straight in future it is highly annoying.

Emperor Justinian

OOC:
At five o’clock, everything stopped for Justinian’s brief address: “I hope all people have learnt from today what will and must happen to those who subvert the rule of law and God, those who take up the foul practice of Socialism. A million Socialists will be dead so you can live free and clean. All the Class 1 and 2 prisoners are dead, painfully most of the time. Only Class 3 prisoners remain which will be finished off by the military. The rest of you must leave, but the rest of the events will be transmitted by pre-placed cameras. These lands shall be sacred for the evil blood spilt here. The land shall have a permanent taint, so that we can be cleaner. This is a holy site, the Fields of Blood."

Emphasis on "a million socialists will be dead"

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Nice try emperor, but no one would acknolege persecution on this scale for fear of backlash, and according to the statements by 100'000 Farmian refugees, at least 70% had been laid off within the month, and all of them had a relative killed. We consider this intimidation if not overt genocide.

Also, the Emir sends with this letter a large marijuana blunt, he hopes you mellow out.

-Aesir Van Der Goude

OOC:
At five o’clock, everything stopped for Justinian’s brief address: “I hope all people have learnt from today what will and must happen to those who subvert the rule of law and God, those who take up the foul practice of Socialism. A million Socialists will be dead so you can live free and clean. All the Class 1 and 2 prisoners are dead, painfully most of the time. Only Class 3 prisoners remain which will be finished off by the military. The rest of you must leave, but the rest of the events will be transmitted by pre-placed cameras. These lands shall be sacred for the evil blood spilt here. The land shall have a permanent taint, so that we can be cleaner. This is a holy site, the Fields of Blood."

Emphasis on "a million socialists will be dead"

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Nice try emperor, but no one would acknolege persecution on this scale for fear of backlash, and according to the statements by 100'000 Farmian refugees, at least 70% had been laid off within the month, and all of them had a relative killed. We consider this intimidation if not overt genocide.

Also, the Emir sends with this letter a large marijuana blunt, he hopes you mellow out.

-Aesir Van Der Goude
OOC: There are a lot more Socialists in Farmina than a million. Farminans don't like Socialists true, but conspiring against the government is a serious offense, although there were also drugs charges and theft charges.

IC: We have had enough of you lies. All our records are completely open for inspection.

Emperor Justinian

OK. We took a look; apparently you missed a few things. Among the refugees was one of your secretaries.

Memo to Justinian from General Theodous.

"I am beginning the campaign as instructed with our special services as per your instructions; we have so far killed at least 20'000 relatives of socalists, as well as distributed black lists containing identification numbers of known socialists to major employers."

This was backed up by a computerized record of over 5 million names with identification numbers we obtained, the information provided by the refugees that slipped outside your borders reveals that 96% were on this list.

That's what happens when the working class is left behind in favor leeches like yourself. Whenever they try to group together to bring about change for greater equality, the aristocrats shoot them down literally.

-Aesir Van Der Goude

OK. We took a look; apparently you missed a few things. Among the refugees was one of your secretaries.

Memo to Justinian from General Theodous.

"I am beginning the campaign as instructed with our special services as per your instructions; we have so far killed at least 20'000 relatives of socalists, as well as distributed black lists containing identification numbers of known socialists to major employers."

This was backed up by a computerized record of over 5 million names with identification numbers we obtained, the information provided by the refugees that slipped outside your borders reveals that 96% were on this list.

That's what happens when the working class is left behind in favor leeches like yourself. Whenever they try to group together to bring about change for greater equality, the aristocrats shoot them down literally.

-Aesir Van Der Goude

OoC: Strangely enough I'm gona make a thread claiming that one your missile operators escaped with all your launch codes, allowing me to destroy your country. Funny, but godmodding.

OK. We took a look; apparently you missed a few things. Among the refugees was one of your secretaries.

Memo to Justinian from General Theodous.

"I am beginning the campaign as instructed with our special services as per your instructions; we have so far killed at least 20'000 relatives of socalists, as well as distributed black lists containing identification numbers of known socialists to major employers."

This was backed up by a computerized record of over 5 million names with identification numbers we obtained, the information provided by the refugees that slipped outside your borders reveals that 96% were on this list.

That's what happens when the working class is left behind in favor leeches like yourself. Whenever they try to group together to bring about change for greater equality, the aristocrats shoot them down literally.

-Aesir Van Der Goude


OOC: This is either godmodding or lying. I doubt you would lie to the man who knows the truth, so I call it godmodding. Give me a good reason not to ignore it.

OOC: This is either godmodding or lying. I doubt you would lie to the man who knows the truth, so I call it godmodding. Give me a good reason not to ignore it.

OoC: Could be both, lying as in the form of manufacturing face IC evidence, which can be counter quite easily by showing Justinian's secretary is still there.

Or its godmodding in which case just ignore it and the player itself.

OOC: This is either godmodding or lying. I doubt you would lie to the man who knows the truth, so I call it godmodding. Give me a good reason not to ignore it.

Are you sure? You never said specifically that no further purges took place, and you did insinuate that 'one million socialists will die'.

As for the missile codes, we don't spend anything on military; we have a militia.

Are you sure? You never said specifically that no further purges took place, and you did insinuate that 'one million socialists will die'.

OoC: For god sakes man, this is plainly declaring what Farmina would do in YOUR eyes. If Farmina says that there where no further purges(seeing as its his country) there where no further purges.

OoC: For god sakes man, this is plainly declaring what Farmina would do in YOUR eyes. If Farmina says that there where no further purges(seeing as its his country) there where no further purges.

Fine. I'll withdraw.

For everyones sake:

THERE WAS AND WILL BE NO FURTHER PURGES

The 'carnival' was a once off.

OOC: Thanks Farmina, spoil my fun why don't you? ;)

IC:
You seem to not realise that the threat posed by Socialism. Have you seen the rot, the death, it can cause. This is a standard, acceptable measure considering the greater cost.

Emperor Justinian

Although some punishments may be over the top, these killings can be barely be counted as murder, barely culling demons in humanities midst.

Socialism would have been condemned in the Bible if Marx had lived in Jesus's time.

As for Maciskan's Church's comments, it sounds too much like Calvinism to be considered anywhere near Christian.

Pope Thomas James Wurts
Grey Catholic Church of God

Macisikan Orthodox Church; Streaming Broadcast

"Bishop O'Brian, what of the comments of the Grey Catholic Church in Farmina?"
"We choose to disregard the statement of this self-styled "church"," the Bishop sneered. "It is the barking of an ignorant dog, nothing more."
"Ignorant your grace?"
"Yes, ignorant; we're Orthodox, not Catholic, not Protestant. Definatelly not "Calvanism". None of the Western Churches. How many times must we say it before people actually get a clue?"
The assembled press laugh nervously.
"One further question if I may; what did your spokesman's comment about "arranging things" mean, your grace?"
"Read your scriptures," the Bishop shrugs. "God punishes the wicked, and all are accountable before Him. Her. It. Oh, you know what I mean. [mutters]: bloody English language.
[normal voice]: "Now if you will excuse me, we have more important things to discuss, like this week's nationwide interdenominational trivia competition results.
"I'm pleased to report that the Anglican team from Arn-Macisaan made it to the finals..."

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Arn-Maciska Times
[extract]

Government sources say that the Minister's response to the Farminian communications was to sigh and shake her head, seemingly disappointed, before going back to reading a novel, muttering something about a "learning impairment".
No formal response has been issued, nor is it likely to be.

"Just turn it off." Gregir Halvorssen was sickened. Jen Ryan turned the tele off.
"We don't have any ties to that country, do we?" he asked.
Ryan shook her head, "No, they barely notice we exist."
He nodded, "Good. Keep it that way... that is the most...disgusting thing I have ever seen. It didn't get onto any of the broadcast channels here, did it?"
she shook her head, "Nope, we managed to talk the Nets into not airing this...atrocity." she said.

He sighed, "What about the Internet?"

she shook her head, "Can't do anything about that-it's going to get out anyway."

He cursed quietly, "You realize this is just the sort of thing the Isolation Party lives for, right?" He wiped his hand across his balding head, "Fine, I'll make a 'harsh public statement' condemning this... barbarism. Let's hope they don't decide to send an army halfway around the world to make an example out of someone."

She shrugged, "Hogsweat's calling for an international Embargo..." she pointed out.

He nodded, "I think we'll sign up on that-that way if they do decide to go after someone, they'll probably go after someone who's bigger, or more prominent...or closer to their own borders."

Gregir knew, he would not be able to sleep well tonight. "You know, every time the fundies and the isolationists kick up a fuss, I've argued against them-especially when the fundies do-but... this looks like maybe they're right, maybe God is a sadistic bastard."

The nation of Mondoth issues the following warning to all nations;

A Mondothian Navay Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been dispatched to the Farminian Economic/Military exclusion zone, any ships entering the zone with the intent to sell to or aid in any way the insurgent forces (AKA the Farminian government, which is no longer ecognized by Mondoth as a legal government) will be destroyed, also, Mondoth has declared un restricted submarine warfare against any Farminian ships, a Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been ordered to find and destroy any Farminian ships in international waters.


:Aboard the Shadow class SSGN Burning Tears:
The silent, wraith like vessel surfaced eerily in the dark seas of night. four crew men hastened onto the deck like phantoms, quickl assembling the launch unit, once they were completed they disapeared, returning shortly to muscle the Ubiquitous harbinger of Mondothian Aggressiveness, quickly they deployed all three of the Silent Crow type stealth surveilance drones, the crew men who had launched them didn't bother to watch them winging off towards their targets, the LCD screens they had for skin had already taken on the coloring and lighting of the sky shadowed from the sun's glare by the intervention of the Earth. the crewm quicly and efficiently stoyed the launcher and disappeared back to the innards of the submarine. Its job done, Burning Tears dropped back to the depths from which it had arose, leaving no trace of ts ephemeral presense.


The three bombers of Alpha flight began recieveing the coded information transmitted form the drones. to maintain their stealth the drones transmitted on carefully selected (for relative signal strenth, location and transmission times) comercial radio stations (if none are available, satelite radio bands), the data encrypted so that even to most experienced radio operator would hear only light static behind the radio stattions normal broadcast, a normal occurence in any case, but when the signal was processed by the navigation and telemtry computers aboard mondothian strategic bombers, the musc and talk was filtered out and the static was decoded into complex imagry and targetting information that the bombers used for real time trarget acquistion. the bomers split off towards their individual targets, followed closely by the even stealthier SX-24 strike aircraft

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Farts of Doom:
Howdy Y'all, this is your captain speaking, we are receiving telemetry from the stormies andare zeroin' in on the damned now. if you look out your windows, you may see pitch black night, Interrupted occasionally by those little candles the groundlings light to show us where to drop our turds. If you turn on you video screen, you might see pitch black night, Interrupted occasionally by those little candles the groundlings light to show us where to drop our turds. In a few Minutes, the inflight movie will begin, tonight we ill be showing 'The pwnage of annonymous airforce base 1 thousand two hundred and three.

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Invisible Knight:
Prepare for bombing operations.

this is nav. we are go.

this is ordinance, we are go.

this is targetting, enemy positions are locked in and we are go.

this is bombardier, all systems check out and we are go.

Roger that, Go for operations, naval formation in sight, ETA 10

Understood, prepping the payload.

as the bomber streaked over the naval formation the bomb bay doors opened for just barely enough time to allow any active radar to notice, but in that time the bomber unloaded all fifty thousand pounds of precision guided ordinance.

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Ghost Buster:
Bombs away clean, lets go home boys.

Rojer that, god have mercy on any poor fools in that tank depot

hear that cap'n

The nation of Mondoth issues the following warning to all nations;

A Mondothian Navay Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been dispatched to the Farminian Economic/Military exclusion zone, any ships entering the zone with the intent to sell to or aid in any way the insurgent forces (AKA the Farminian government, which is no longer ecognized by Mondoth as a legal government) will be destroyed, also, Mondoth has declared un restricted submarine warfare against any Farminian ships, a Hunter/Killer submarine pack has been ordered to find and destroy any Farminian ships in international waters.


:Aboard the Shadow class SSGN Burning Tears:
The silent, wraith like vessel surfaced eerily in the dark seas of night. four crew men hastened onto the deck like phantoms, quickl assembling the launch unit, once they were completed they disapeared, returning shortly to muscle the Ubiquitous harbinger of Mondothian Aggressiveness, quickly they deployed all three of the Silent Crow type stealth surveilance drones, the crew men who had launched them didn't bother to watch them winging off towards their targets, the LCD screens they had for skin had already taken on the coloring and lighting of the sky shadowed from the sun's glare by the intervention of the Earth. the crewm quicly and efficiently stoyed the launcher and disappeared back to the innards of the submarine. Its job done, Burning Tears dropped back to the depths from which it had arose, leaving no trace of ts ephemeral presense.


The three bombers of Alpha flight began recieveing the coded information transmitted form the drones. to maintain their stealth the drones transmitted on carefully selected (for relative signal strenth, location and transmission times) comercial radio stations (if none are available, satelite radio bands), the data encrypted so that even to most experienced radio operator would hear only light static behind the radio stattions normal broadcast, a normal occurence in any case, but when the signal was processed by the navigation and telemtry computers aboard mondothian strategic bombers, the musc and talk was filtered out and the static was decoded into complex imagry and targetting information that the bombers used for real time trarget acquistion. the bomers split off towards their individual targets, followed closely by the even stealthier SX-24 strike aircraft

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Farts of Doom:
Howdy Y'all, this is your captain speaking, we are receiving telemetry from the stormies andare zeroin' in on the damned now. if you look out your windows, you may see pitch black night, Interrupted occasionally by those little candles the groundlings light to show us where to drop our turds. If you turn on you video screen, you might see pitch black night, Interrupted occasionally by those little candles the groundlings light to show us where to drop our turds. In a few Minutes, the inflight movie will begin, tonight we ill be showing 'The pwnage of annonymous airforce base 1 thousand two hundred and three.

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Invisible Knight:
Prepare for bombing operations.

this is nav. we are go.

this is ordinance, we are go.

this is targetting, enemy positions are locked in and we are go.

this is bombardier, all systems check out and we are go.

Roger that, Go for operations, naval formation in sight, ETA 10

Understood, prepping the payload.

as the bomber streaked over the naval formation the bomb bay doors opened for just barely enough time to allow any active radar to notice, but in that time the bomber unloaded all fifty thousand pounds of precision guided ordinance.

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Ghost Buster:
Bombs away clean, lets go home boys.

Rojer that, god have mercy on any poor fools in that tank depot

hear that cap'n

Godmod. IGNORED

what do you have agaist socialists

what do you have agaist socialists

They broke the law. And they have no respect for private property.

Emperor Justinian

That may be, but in all sincerity, does anyone truly deserve death? Couldn't you at least detain them, exile them, whatever? Slaughter will only lead to more violence, and in this case, it has, as several nations have voiced their decision to attack Farmina. The Imperial Republic of Nueve Italia condemns the acts of Farmina, aware of the current political situation within said country. We believe that mass-murders such as what has happened at this so called "carnival" can not and are not justified what-so-ever. While we ourselves have dealt with Political Factions that had opposed our rightful government and had even led a rebellion that tore our fragile country apart, the Republic would never sink to an attrocity such as this, no matter the circumstances. The people of Nueve Italia agree that the killing of non-military personnel for any reason is a violation of the Human Rights Act. That said, the Senate is in debate over whether or not full military action will be enforced upon the nation of Farmina, however, the nation of Mondoth, whom we are in eternal debt to for saving our own country from a political seperatist movement, and the coalition it has established will be supported economically for the time being. If this decision does come down to an attack upon Farmina, The Imperial Republic of Nueve Italia will dispatch whatever forces it sees fit to ensure that the Holy Empire of Farmina will recognize the natural, God-given rights of all people: The Rights to Land, Liberty, and above all, Life.


Emperor Giovanni Dominicio Gori I

OOC: I hate to butt-in, but it doesn't seem like godmodding to me. It seems like a small-scale airstrike with the scant resources that can be brought to bear within a quick timeframe. If you have a problem with it, you could just retaliate IC against their forces in the area, launch a counter-attack against their own shipping, or maybe condemn them for attacking without a declaration of war.

OOC: I hate to butt-in, but it doesn't seem like godmodding to me. It seems like a small-scale airstrike with the scant resources that can be brought to bear within a quick timeframe. If you have a problem with it, you could just retaliate IC against their forces in the area, launch a counter-attack against their own shipping, or maybe condemn them for attacking without a declaration of war.

Whether I can retaliate is my decision not his, its a GODMOD. I have rule of three strikes, he just lost one. His whole scenario is to fast. We have fighters that could have taken them out before the bombing.

[OOC: Except for not giving you the chance to shoot him down it's a legit attack... how about Mondoth edits to just saying his bombers are going towards a naval formation... that should be acceptable. Unless, of course, Farmina has no naval presence in his / her waters, which wouldn't be a very good idea anyway.]

[OOC: Except for not giving you the chance to shoot him down it's a legit attack... how about Mondoth edits to just saying his bombers are going towards a naval formation... that should be acceptable. Unless, of course, Farmina has no naval presence in his / her waters, which wouldn't be a very good idea anyway.]


OOC: Which I don't. It doesn't matter since, this is supposed to be a Farminan CIVIL war, and Justinian will be out of power on Saturday. I'd much rather do it my way, but I shaln't use the ignore cannon as a primary defence, unlike in some conflicts.

Whether I can retaliate is my decision not his, its a GODMOD. I have rule of three strikes, he just lost one. His whole scenario is to fast. We have fighters that could have taken them out before the bombing.

It was a light airstrike with strategic bombers carried out without warning for greater effect, the Silent Crow drones alerted the bombers to radars capable of detecting them so that their flight plans would avoid detection for the longest possible time before the strike. unless you have more air defense radars than soviet russia (which the B-2 was designed to defeat and the B-5 was based on the B-2 concept with modern radar capabilites in mind, and soviet russia had a crap load of ADRs) then in all likely hood, barring freakish chance the bombers and escort would have remained undetected until after the bombs were dropped, and I left Farts of Doom open for such a freak occurence, feel free to attempt to shoot them down now (or claim Farts was shot down) but the SX-24 fighters they use as escorts are particularly nasty

It was a light airstrike with strategic bombers carried out without warning for greater effect, the Silent Crow drones alerted the bombers to radars capable of detecting them so that their flight plans would avoid detection for the longest possible time before the strike. unless you have more air defense radars than soviet russia (which the B-2 was designed to defeat and the B-5 was based on the B-2 concept with modern radar capabilites in mind, and soviet russia had a crap load of ADRs) then in all likely hood, barring freakish chance the bombers and escort would have remained undetected until after the bombs were dropped, and I left Farts of Doom open for such a freak occurence, feel free to attempt to shoot them down now (or claim Farts was shot down) but the SX-24 fighters they use as escorts are particularly nasty

Silent Crow drones alerting bombers to radars capable of detecting them? I've never heard such rubbish.

And fighters that are particularly nasty? Basically your saying yours are superior. Well I have the ultimate counter to that, "MINE ARE SUPERPOWERFUL."

Now if you RP the attack correctly, I will lift the ignore. By the way where did those bombers come from, I doubt it was off the subs.

Silent Crow drones alerting bombers to radars capable of detecting them? I've never heard such rubbish.

And fighters that are particularly nasty? Basically your saying yours are superior. Well I have the ultimate counter to that, "MINE ARE SUPERPOWERFUL."

Now if you RP the attack correctly, I will lift the ignore. By the way where did those bombers come from, I doubt it was off the subs.
??? the Drones came off the subs and they are perfectly capable of alerting the bombers of the location of radars capable of detecting them on the flight to their targets (The drones advanced along the same basic path that the bombers later took (for this very reason), and unless your radars were turned off (Then they wouldn't detect my bombers anyway) then a car with a radar detector (comercially available, about 50-100 USD, less than a square foot of volume)
could detect the radar (assuming it was powerful enough to detect my bombers) and using the method described in my earlier IC post, the information could easily be relayed to the bombers.

actually, I never said mine were superior, I just said that in a fight, they'd be nasty, that statement has no relativity, you could just as easily say that in a fight, a small cat would be nasty, or a dog. that doesn't mean its superior, or even close, just that they probably won't go down without a fight, that fight might be just that you got a little cut on your arm or leg but they put up the fiercest resistance they could muster.

BTW; The bombers were stationed on the Mondothian coast, they were refueld in flight by C-204's (check my storefront, link is in sig) and met up with the SX-24's launched from a Peregrine class Air Craft Carrier that is currently showing the flag in the near vicinity of Novoborirsk (or something like that anyway)

??? the Drones came off the subs and they are perfectly capable of alerting the bombers of the location of radars capable of detecting them on the flight to their targets (The drones advanced along the same basic path that the bombers later took (for this very reason), and unless your radars were turned off (Then they wouldn't detect my bombers anyway) then a car with a radar detector (comercially available, about 50-100 USD, less than a square foot of volume)
could detect the radar (assuming it was powerful enough to detect my bombers) and using the method described in my earlier IC post, the information could easily be relayed to the bombers.

actually, I never said mine were superior, I just said that in a fight, they'd be nasty, that statement has no relativity, you could just as easily say that in a fight, a small cat would be nasty, or a dog. that doesn't mean its superior, or even close, just that they probably won't go down without a fight, that fight might be just that you got a little cut on your arm or leg but they put up the fiercest resistance they could muster.

BTW; The bombers were stationed on the Mondothian coast, they were refueld in flight by C-204's (check my storefront, link is in sig) and met up with the SX-24's launched from a Peregrine class Air Craft Carrier that is currently showing the flag in the near vicinity of Novoborirsk (or something like that anyway)

OOC: I'll accept the attack grudgingly, and with warning. I'm still not convinced that bombers and fighters can't change their paint frequency to avoid radar. I'm going to assume this is off the east coast.

IC: As the bombers approached the fleet, Admiral North looked up and yelled, "Scramble the fighters, they really are stupid enough to attack us."

With that the first pilots began taking off, 2 a minute on each of the two aircraft carriers.

"I want that entire squaderon wiped out," he said from the flag ship.

Missiles prepared to fire on the enemy aircraft, but it was too late the first bombs had fallen.

"I need casualties," ordered North.

"Minor damage, Lord Admiral," responded his adjudant, "Six casualties."

Change their paint frequency??? what are you talking about.


IC:

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Invisible Knight:

Sir!, we're lit up, inbound fighters, looks like they're coming up off those carriers.

Beta six, this is Alpha 2, we have inbound fighters off those carriers.

Roger Alpha, we see 'em vectoring to engage.

Command, this is Alpha 2, Charlie foxtrot's come a knockin and he wants to tango something fierce.

Roger that Alpha, tell the Guardians that a Sierra Charlie is waiting for them at relay bravo.

Will do, bugging out.

The B-2, having few defenseive measure started accelerating towards its rondeveu point for refueling on the way back to Mondoth, leaving the 12 fighters of its escort to tangle with the enemy fighters.

This is Spider man to Ghost flight, I have positive solutions on both carriers and am lighting off the rats.

as he spoke, the one fighter equiped with Air to ground missiles sent both of his 'Kite' missiles on a path to the carriers hoping to score a hit on the decks and keep them from launching more fighters.

OOC: What type of fighters are you using here? if they're NS fighters (not real world) then where can I find the stats?

Change their paint frequency??? what are you talking about.


IC:

:Aboard the B-5 Strategic Stealth Bomber Invisible Knight:

Sir!, we're lit up, inbound fighters, looks like they're coming up off those carriers.

Beta six, this is Alpha 2, we have inbound fighters off those carriers.

Roger Alpha, we see 'em vectoring to engage.

Command, this is Alpha 2, Charlie foxtrot's come a knockin and he wants to tango something fierce.

Roger that Alpha, tell the Guardians that a Sierra Charlie is waiting for them at relay bravo.

Will do, bugging out.

The B-2, having few defenseive measure started accelerating towards its rondeveu point for refueling on the way back to Mondoth, leaving the 12 fighters of its escort to tangle with the enemy fighters.

This is Spider man to Ghost flight, I have positive solutions on both carriers and am lighting off the rats.

as he spoke, the one fighter equiped with Air to ground missiles sent both of his 'Kite' missiles on a path to the carriers hoping to score a hit on the decks and keep them from launching more fighters.

OOC: What type of fighters are you suing here? if they're NS fighters (not real world) then where can I find the stats?
OOC: Do you have any idea how stealth and radar work? It doesn't involve tracking your planes transmissions. My aircraft are a faster version of the FA-18.

IC: "Incoming," yelled a crewmen.
"Counter measures," responded the Captain.
With that two counter-missiles flew up from one the nearest Cruiser, heading directly at the incoming missile.

Just off the Robenian Ocean

"Supersonic Zero Two Niner, climb to and maintian sixty six thousand, tune the ROL radial, then direct" said the air traffic controller speaking to the Liberal Robenian SR-71. Captian Greg McClennan readback the insructions. He was on a recon mission which was classified. All he had to do was fly over a certain area and fly home again.

"Supersonic Zero Two Ni-, --- out of range. ----- radio silence" The Captain replied to stay at radio silence, he was only five minutes away from the shore. He had done this a million times and almost fell asleep.

"BLEEP, BLEEP, BLEEP..." the Aircraft warning system was sounding and startled the captian. "Oh Shit," he thought, "Am I stalling?". Sure enough, his plane was on autopilot trying to maintian his assigned altitude with failure. He quicky switched to manual control and pushed the nose down, one engine was gone, the plane was falling. The altitude gauge was showing him at 40,000 feet and dropping, he tried desperately to keep the plane up. Another faster warning had sounded, one of the computers had just failed, the plane was shaking and falling fast.

"Mayday, Mayday, Supersonic Zero Two Niner would like to request an emergency" McClennan radioed frantically. He looked out the window, he could see the Farmina coast. The radio attemp failed. 20,000 feet. 15,000 feet. He was falling fast, pulling as hard as he could against the wheel. 10,000 feet, he could see the coast. He couldn't see anywhere safe to land. 5,000 feet. He tried pulling more, but his hands had filled with sweat and slipped from the wheel, he grabbed the wheel again. 2,000. 1,000. He pulled as hard as he could. 500. SLAM. McClennan's plane crashed onto the Farmina coast. McClennan was still alive.

Just off the Robenian Ocean

"Supersonic Zero Two Niner, climb to and maintian sixty six thousand, tune the ROL radial, then direct" said the air traffic controller speaking to the Liberal Robenian SR-71. Captian Greg McClennan readback the insructions. He was on a recon mission which was classified. All he had to do was fly over a certain area and fly home again.

"Supersonic Zero Two Ni-, --- out of range. ----- radio silence" The Captain replied to stay at radio silence, he was only five minutes away from the shore. He had done this a million times and almost fell asleep.

"BLEEP, BLEEP, BLEEP..." the Aircraft warning system was sounding and startled the captian. "Oh Shit," he thought, "Am I stalling?". Sure enough, his plane was on autopilot trying to maintian his assigned altitude with failure. He quicky switched to manual control and pushed the nose down, one engine was gone, the plane was falling. The altitude gauge was showing him at 40,000 feet and dropping, he tried desperately to keep the plane up. Another faster warning had sounded, one of the computers had just failed, the plane was shaking and falling fast.

"Mayday, Mayday, Supersonic Zero Two Niner would like to request an emergency" McClenned radioed frantically. He looked out the window, he could see the Farmina coast. The radio attemp failed. 20,000 feet. 15,000 feet. He was falling fast, pulling as hard as he could against the wheel. 10,000 feet, he could see the coast. He couldn't see anywhere safe to land. 5,000 feet. He tried pulling more, but his hands had filled with sweat and slipped from the wheel, he grabbed the wheel again. 2,000. 1,000. He pulled as hard as he could. 500. SLAM. McClennan's plane crashed onto the Farmina coast. McClennan was still alive.

"Oh more people falling from the sky, great," said Sergeant Green.

After a brief five minute walk he looked up at the wreck, "All right you up. We've had enough of foriegners having technical malfunctions near our lands."

"Oh more people falling from the sky, great," said Sergeant Green.

After a brief five minute walk he looked up at the wreck, "All right you up. We've had enough of foriegners having technical malfunctions near our lands."

One hour after the crash..

Liberal Robenian Notice

To Fermina: We have had notice of our aircraft crashing on your coast and have heard the pilot is in your custody. We request the pilot be sent back Liberal Robenian hands safely.

One hour after the crash..

Liberal Robenian Notice

To Fermina: We have had notice of our aircraft crashing on your coast and have heard the pilot is in your custody. We request the pilot be sent back Liberal Robenian hands safely.

We would be happy to return the pilot, who is currently under protection. We can however spare no vessels, so you will have to collect them yourselves. I warn you that Mondoth vessels may attack you, as they insist on attacking everything within "their territory."

OOC: Do you have any idea how stealth and radar work? It doesn't involve tracking your planes transmissions. My aircraft are a faster version of the FA-18.

IC: "Incoming," yelled a crewmen.
"Counter measures," responded the Captain.
With that two counter-missiles flew up from one the nearest Cruiser, heading directly at the incoming missile.

Yes, radar works by bouncing high frequency radio (waves off of objecys, the factors affecting the ability of a radar array to detect a particular object are;
power of radar
size and shape of object
atmospheric conditions (electrical storms can cause radars to read spoofs or miss objects, and zones of different pressures can have a similiar effect)
what the object is made of (RTMs, and RAMs lower the ability of a radar to detect an object)
Surface conditions (heating or cooling of one portion of an object different from that of another and other conditions on the surface of an object may cause a wave of different air pressure that can be detected on radar)
speed (Most modern radar arrays can detect birds in flight, zephyrs and other natural occurences, therefor most radar units have 'speed gates' that use speed to determine whether an object is a target or a natural occurence)
Radio transmissions (if its using active radar or a powerful enough radio then its fair game)
location (the farther away, the harder to detect, the more obscured by terrain and horizon and other objects, the harder to detect, aslo, closeness to the ground can cause targets to be lost in 'ground clutter')

no where an the list is the frequency of paint, the type of paint maybe, but if its an RTM then the point is moot (mine is)

BTW: just sayin, but unless you increased the control surfaces greatly (more much more than just to compensate for faster speed) then the SX-24 is more maneuverable, and unless you upgraded the payload the SX-24 has more missiles, thats just a few statement of facts measuring the SX-24 against a known benchmark in quantifiable measures (not godmod or declarations of OMG my planzors pwn your planzors, i wIn !!!!!!!1111!!!!oneoneone!!!)

IC: Target locked, firing slammers.

the 'Swift' type Air to Air radar guided missile is a fire and forget munition, that means its seeker head has a small radar transmitter that allows it to stay ona target without the parent aircraft having to maintain a dangerous heading to keep its own radar pointed at the target, once launched, they were very hard to shake.

Announcements of launched missiles filled the air almost as thick as missiles, crisscrossing towards targets launching their own missiles and confusing the 'furball' (dogfight involving more fighters than is probably safe, but wars aren't safe are they) even more. explosions came next, soem from missiles that had hit their targets, soem that had simply run out of fuel. after that a few parachutes from the unlucky survivors drifted slowly downards while over their heads missiles still criss crossed and exploded

Yes, radar works by bouncing high frequency radio (waves off of objecys, the factors affecting the ability of a radar array to detect a particular object are;
power of radar
size and shape of object
atmospheric conditions (electrical storms can cause radars to read spoofs or miss objects, and zones of different pressures can have a similiar effect)
what the object is made of (RTMs, and RAMs lower the ability of a radar to detect an object)
Surface conditions (heating or cooling of one portion of an object different from that of another and other conditions on the surface of an object may cause a wave of different air pressure that can be detected on radar)
speed (Most modern radar arrays can detect birds in flight, zephyrs and other natural occurences, therefor most radar units have 'speed gates' that use speed to determine whether an object is a target or a natural occurence)
Radio transmissions (if its using active radar or a powerful enough radio then its fair game)
location (the farther away, the harder to detect, the more obscured by terrain and horizon and other objects, the harder to detect, aslo, closeness to the ground can cause targets to be lost in 'ground clutter')

no where an the list is the frequency of paint, the type of paint maybe, but if its an RTM then the point is moot (mine is)

BTW: just sayin, but unless you increased the control surfaces greatly (more much more than just to compensate for faster speed) then the SX-24 is more maneuverable, and unless you upgraded the payload the SX-24 has more missiles, thats just a few statement of facts measuring the SX-24 against a known benchmark in quantifiable measures (not godmod or declarations of OMG my planzors pwn your planzors, i wIn !!!!!!!1111!!!!oneoneone!!!)

IC: Target locked, firing slammers.

the 'Swift' type Air to Air radar guided missile is a fire and forget munition, that means its seeker head has a small radar transmitter that allows it to stay ona target without the parent aircraft having to maintain a dangerous heading to keep its own radar pointed at the target, once launched, they were very hard to shake.

Announcements of launched missiles filled the air almost as thick as missiles, crisscrossing towards targets launching their own missiles and confusing the 'furball' (dogfight involving more fighters than is probably safe, but wars aren't safe are they) even more. explosions came next, soem from missiles that had hit their targets, soem that had simply run out of fuel. after that a few parachutes from the unlucky survivors drifted slowly downards while over their heads missiles still criss crossed and exploded

OOC: Did you just loss all your planes? You need to post losses. By the way your writing is really unclear. And no plane is completely stealthed, every one can be picked up by some frequency. And yes Farminan tech is manvoeurable, one of emphasises.

OOC: Sorry to butt in, but; Farmina, would you please not quote Mondoth's posts when yours is the next one down? It makes reading this more difficult than it has to be, and anyway, we know what he said.

OOC: Sorry, force of habit. I nearly did it with your post as well.

I see no problem with your actions, i support you fully

Duke Barol

OOC: Did you just loss all your planes? You need to post losses. By the way your writing is really unclear. And no plane is completely stealthed, every one can be picked up by some frequency. And yes Farminan tech is manvoeurable, one of emphasises.

No, I was waiting for your response to my comencement of the dogfight before I posted losses, I was just saying that there was losses (probably on both sides)

Its true that no aircraft is completely stealthed but the frequency of the emitter has very little to do with its capability of detecting anything. higher frequencies (I.E. Targetting, fire finder radars) have higher defintion and can identify smaller objects but is no more capable of detecting something that a lower frequency radar (I.E. search, acquisition radars) could detect, technically higher frequency radars can more easily detect stealthed aircraf, but only because it can detect smaller aberations in the portions of an aircrafts RDZ (the volume of air in which the effects of an aircraft might be detected by a radar) however higher frequency radars also use more energy, are more maintainance intensive and are more likely to generate spoofs (false positives)

the best way to detect stealthed aircraft is to use a higher intensity search band which can generate more return off of a stealth aircraft's RDZ

More Farminan jets raced into the dog fight.

"This is Captain Apollo," began one of the squad leaders, "Squad Apollo, prepare for jump manover, we want the bombers."

With that the squad of six jets, flew at the enemy jets, inclining at a mild angle, to go right over the top. As the jets went up, they released missiles down. The aim was to escape the dog fight and chase the bombers.

Back on the flagship, it was clear the dog fight seemed to be taking an equal toll an each side. "Its a brutal waste," observed Admiral North.

"General Monrey, just got word that a dogfight was taking place in Farmina" said Sargent Franks

"What's the staus?" replied the general.

"It's bad on both sides, sir, it hasn't been added up, but Mondoth could use our help"

"Scramble some jets, I want this taken care of"

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Fifty Miles off the coast of Fermina

"Okay, it's very unlikely they're still fighting, just be prepared" said 1LT Johnson. Five pilots were flying in their LR-16's (OOC: Like the F-16's), they were twenty five miles away when the Lt told the pilots to keep quiet until the attack. They were ten miles away when they could see the explosions and chaos. The engage order was given. The pilots were nervous, this was the first time they had been in a fight. The lieutenant singled in on a Farmina aircraft.

"LR Eagle, Fox One!" yelled a pilot on the radio. The missle smoked through the sky directly towards a Farmina fighter

OOC: Big mistake LR. Also normally the fight would be over by the time you had arrived but I will allow it this time.

IC: The missile smashed into the Farminan fighter, turning it into a flaming wreck.

The Admiral looked up to see five more fighters joining the fight, he recognised them to be Liberal Robenian.

"Divert ten fighters to take out these new comers" said the Admiral.

More fighters spewed up into the air, as anti air rockets from the cruisers flew at the approaching Robenian.

OOC: Attacking this armada would be foolish.

IC: The armada was ready for its mission, but that was far from Farmina. Final goodbyes were made, and the monsterous ships pulled out of port. A few fighters flew around the armada, looking for enemy submarines, finding targets for the armada.

Fort Rucomera, Farmina

All hands to battlestations, all hands to battlestations! This is not a drill! The speakers around the base screamed to life, DDF troopers ran for their gun positions, vehicle crews fired up their engines and AA batteries pointed towards the sky, poised to strike. Most troops expected some sort of Farminian attack on the fort but the only thing that indicated something was the air raid siren that now came into action.

Non combat personal scrambeld to safe bunkers, pilots scrambeld to their aircraft as the massive SAM batteries reared up towards the sky.
7th Interceptor Squadron, enemy aircraft detected in Farminian airspace, you are cleared to shoot them down. The message beeped upon the dozens of Raven interceptor aircraft that stood silent on the triple runways, but not for long as the lead aircraft throtteld forward with engines screaming murder and fire.

It took a full minute for al fourty-five aircraft to form up again in the sky, activating optical camouflage and radar stealth as they aproached the dogfight.
Airwings, I, III and V engage enemy escort, mind Farmian friendlies!

Airwings II and IV, flank and jump those bombers!

The formation broke up, first into Airwings of nine aircraft and then down to wings of three which would be fighting together. The first wing fired its eight SRAAM-112 missiles a piece before closing in and using their 30mm cannons to slice into enemy fighters.

The remaining thirty-three aircraft followed suit, firing missiles before breaking formation to the enemy. The II and IV wings followed a few seconds later, launching missiles at the bombers and dodging return fire, jumping onto the bombers like a pack of hunry wolves.

Farminian aircraft this is Squadron leader McArthy of the Royal Airforce 7th interceptor squadron, break off, the Royal Airforce will mop up remaining raiders and big birds

OoC: If you realy want stats for these things, I'll look them up and post them here just consider that the Raven will rip apart most RL aircraft and will go toe-to-toe with any NS aircraft with the outcome largely depending on the pilot, which the Royal Airforce trains to an outstanding level thanks to high funding.

OOC: Is this supposed to be a sort of modern day roleplay? or more future.. there's no way 45 aircraft could take off in only a minute in the modern world.

Edit: Or have optical camo

OOC: This is MT, but Dumpsterdam has a wide open space to launch a huge number of fighters fast.

IC: The Admiral looked up at the massive swarm of Dumpsterdamian aircraft, as the communication came in.

"Break off," ordered North, "Anti-aircraft missiles are to continue tracking enemy aircraft."

Estimations were placed at 12 planes downed.

Commander Brogart of the 12th airborne ghost squadron glanced down at his status display before hauling his aircraft into another series of maneuvers that would break any conventional aircraft in two (An SX-24 is not in the strict sense a conventional aircraft using a tailess design (I.E. the X-36)
he knew that his pilots were badly out numbered and sounded the retreat, besides, he had to take care of the fighters that had gone after the bomber.

Ghost six to Ghost flight, brek off, engage targets gomez flight.

Suiting action to words he flipped his aircraft over into the direction the bomber had taken, as he did so he ignited a line of flares and triggerer several chaff clouds to mask his escape. Once in clear air he checked his weapon and fuel states. two missiles left and just enough fuel to get the job done. his radar quickly found the trailing edges of the fighter group that had gone after the bomber, he didn't lock the targets in, which would necesitate turning his targeting radar and highlighting the fighters, probably alerting them that hey were targets. instead he fed the numbers into his remaing missiles and fired them, hoping that the infrared terminal phase targetting systems would catch the heat signature of the aircraft before running out andself detonating.

OOC: what armada is that? and can it take 8,000 missiles and survive?

OOC: Theres no way you can fire 8000 missiles, especially from a few subs! Noone I know has claimed that type of capability. And it is entirely unlikely that you have all your subs, in the exact place where the armada is.

The armada is a force of over 42 ships.

Famina, your actions would appaul even the most degenerate mind. We will never forgive you.

Meanwhile, at Southport Airbase, Halo Sqaudron was preparing to take off. Armed with highly advanced ASW missiles purcahsed from Layertab, and Indgionous AIM-91 Firehawk AtA Missiles, the air squadron was preparing to aid the Mondoth forces in thier endevor. The aircraft slowly lifted, one by one, into Farmina Airspace. At the same time, Razgriz, the feared Osean Fighter sqaudron, rumored to be the best in all of Wysteria, was lifting off for the same mission. The jet black planes slipped into the night, and soon, 50 AVSAF aircraft were headed to meet pure evil-head on.

Famina, your actions would appaul even the most degenerate mind. We will never forgive you.

Meanwhile, at Southport Airbase, Halo Sqaudron was preparing to take off. Armed with highly advanced ASW missiles purcahsed from Layertab, and Indgionous AIM-91 Firehawk AtA Missiles, the air squadron was preparing to aid the Mondoth forces in thier endevor. The aircraft slowly lifted, one by one, into Farmina Airspace. At the same time, Razgriz, the feared Osean Fighter sqaudron, rumored to be the best in all of Wysteria, was lifting off for the same mission. The jet black planes slipped into the night, and soon, 50 AVSAF aircraft were headed to meet pure evil-head on.

Are there a number to this aircraft?

Yes, but it is on my site. I will spare you the trobule
20 F-16s
25 F-15s
5 F/A-22

plus tanker aircraft, but they had broken off long before they reched Farmina AS

In case of more occrances, visit my homepage, got excapt military specs on there.

The Aircraft split into 5 seperate formations of 10 and went into delta formations. Lt. Maxwell's F-16s alert moniters suddenly started a din and light show that put Disney to shame. A missile streaked approximently 2 feet away from his canopy. Looking back, the missile exploded 30 meters behind him. He heard the radio come to life. It was his squadron leader. "On one, two, three, BREAK!!!" Instantly, the 5 formations in the group broke apart in a stream of contrails. A lone Katana XAMA-1 plane soared overhead at 80,000 feet, far above the huge dogfight underway, relying IFF info and taking out the occasinal missle with it's automated Phalanx. The ASVAF commander patched through to the Mondorth Tac-Net, trying to request permission to aid the Mondorth Aircraft in the losing battle.

OOC: Veylka, I allowed LR to have their planes appear quickly. I won't do it twice. It would generally take at least an hour to fly from one country to another. By this time the dogfight would be over. Dumpsterdam could arrive quickly because he was off the coast.

((OOC: Farmina, check TGs))

Yes, but this is NS. Real time doesnt translate into NS time, so by now the fighters would have arrived.

"Checking into target database, looks like nothing left but straglers"

"Roger that, Halo 13, proceed inland."

"Roger that, Raz 1-15 proceed with wild weasal mission."

The 15 jet black fighters cruised in at less than 200 feet ASL. High above the field, the XAMA-1 painted the outlying SAM and target radars.

"Targets painted, Raz 1 fire at will"

"SLEEP NOW IN THE FIRE!!!"

Almost instantly, 30 missiles fired off from hardpoints on the aircraft.
Streaking towards the Farmina Early Warning Systems, the missiles impacted their targets. Meanwhile, at the Capital Building in Velkya City, President Barzard was notified of the strike.

"Then it has begun..."

OOC: Theres no way you can fire 8000 missiles, especially from a few subs! Noone I know has claimed that type of capability. And it is entirely unlikely that you have all your subs, in the exact place where the armada is.

The armada is a force of over 42 ships.

if you haven't been keeping up I have ten Hydra Class Arsenal ships in theater, together they are quite capable of firing 8,000 missiles

:Aboard the Author class fleet supply ship Edgar Allen Poe:

Intel says Farmina has launched 42 war ships of indeterminate class (what's the break down? I have sattelites and surveilance drones)
targetting information is not yet available, should I launch some crows?

Of course, and ready 420 missiles to deal with the threat once it is with in range.

This isn't modern time at all, I'm out, you guys are too future for me.

Mondath this is modern tech, and i don't believe even future tech nations claim that kind of capacity.

Velyka that would count as a godmod, and you don't seem to understand NS time at all.

OOC:LR, this is modern tech, it was Mondoth that was in the wrong.

Also Mondoth, fighting you is tiresome since it is mostly OOC. I have now gathered more than enough allies to blast you off the face of the Earth.

IC: These are our terms to Mondoth.

Upon signing this document Farmina and Mondoth shall be at peace with the following terms:
i) Mondoth will apologise for declaring war against Farmina, when failing to recognise all the facts,
ii) Mondoth will apologise for attacking the Resi Corporation,
iii) Mondoth will repatriates Resi Corporation’s oil refinery,
iv) Mondoth will pay Resi Corporation $1 billion US to Resi Corporation in damages,
v) Mondoth will pay Farmina $50 million US in damages ,(OOC: Token sum)
vi) Mondoth will end its embargo and blockade of Farmina,
vii) Mondoth will recognise Farmina's new constitutional amendments will prevent any further such disgusting displays,
viii) Mondoth will hand over a $1 billion US in assets, to a neutral nation, to ensure that the treaty is not violated,
ix) Mondoth will recognise all those executed in Farmina were criminals.

Greetings.
The people of The United Socialist States of SMRA are disgusted by the slaughter committed by cruel, twisted, evil Farminas.
We have a large air force and are willing to dispatch bombers and fighters straight away. We will need aircraft carriers from a fellow nation, because all our carriers are being scrapped and will be replaced with new nuclear-powered aircraft carriers soon.

Mondoth,
We request that our air force be allowed to use (i.e. re-fuel, land, take-off, base) any carriers you may have.

We have a large stockpile of long range missiles, which we will position on our own ships and send to the sea surrounding Farmina.

All-out-war!

Greetings.
The people of The United Socialist States of SMRA are disgusted by the slaughter committed by cruel, twisted, evil Farminas.
We have a large air force and are willing to dispatch bombers and fighters straight away. We will need aircraft carriers from a fellow nation, because all our carriers are being scrapped and will be replaced with new nuclear-powered aircraft carriers soon.

Mondoth,
We request that our air force be allowed to use (i.e. re-fuel, land, take-off, base) any carriers you may have.

We have a large stockpile of long range missiles, which we will position on our own ships and send to the sea surrounding Farmina.

All-out-war!

OoC: Ignored, bye.

Greetings.
The people of The United Socialist States of SMRA are disgusted by the slaughter committed by cruel, twisted, evil Farminas.
We have a large air force and are willing to dispatch bombers and fighters straight away. We will need aircraft carriers from a fellow nation, because all our carriers are being scrapped and will be replaced with new nuclear-powered aircraft carriers soon.

Mondoth,
We request that our air force be allowed to use (i.e. re-fuel, land, take-off, base) any carriers you may have.

We have a large stockpile of long range missiles, which we will position on our own ships and send to the sea surrounding Farmina.

All-out-war!
Prove to me your a serious RPer and then I'll respond otherwise, I dont have time for you at the moment. I've had enough of unexperienced RPers this week to last me a very long time. I note you didn't even say how many planes you were sending. And I've heard the "we have lots of missiles" before.

OOC: Allright, I won't bother quoting and what not, You'll just have to muddle through this action packed reply to all Y'alls

Aresenal Ship: N; A Naval vessel consisting of multiple Verticle Launch Systems, usu. containing more than 500 Guided surface to surface or surface to air missiles. Most currently considered employ other means (I.E. surveliance drones/ other naval vessels, sattelites) to target for , defend and navigate to save room for maximum missile capacity, using modern constructionmethods and computer technology a maximum of automization can be applied to bring necesary crew down to below 200 personel (Swear to god not making this shit up, look it up on google or something, current U.S. estimates say they can build one with a crew of fifty that can launch five hundred missiles a minute with a total load of over a thousand per salvo (For the record mine fire 400 missiles a minute, have 800 missiles and a crew of 200))

Here's some information on current Arsenal Ship proposals (http://www.answers.com/topic/arsenal-ship)
Here's some more (http://www.cdi.org/issues/naval/arsenal.html)
Here's a PDF on it (http://www.rand.org/publications/MR/MR1030/mr1030.appb.pdf)

mine are just bigger and less maneuverable. I use my Barrier class design to substitue for an AEGIS (It's basically an evolution of the AEGIS concept anyway) and its mainly controlled via datalink by the mondothian naval command suite usually found on am AUthor class supply vessel (they go everywhere with a fleet anyway, why not make em your flagship?)

IC: The Mondothian Government dismisses Farminas treaty out of hand, We do not acknowledge the current government as legitimate and will not deal with it, furthermore we have yet to see any criminal evidence against the individuals that were executed, either it has not been provided to our satisfaction or it does not exist.
Further more we find that the Farminan threat of force is grossly out of hand and notes that similiarly we have enough allies to wipe Farmina off the map, armed conflict will help no one, we could wage a mssive war of attrition against each other and each others allies and the result would be tha no one wins, it might even escalate to a nuclear exchange which could end many more lives than is necesary. We offer one solution; That the currnet Farminan government steps down or is removed from power and is sent before a Worl Court Judge on charges of crimes against Humanity. and a new government is freely decided upon and elected by the people of Farmina. until our objectives and sensibilites are met we will and must continue to enforce a military blockade against the Rogue nation of Farmina.

Official Government Response

Although the Holy Empire of Tannenmille is a capitalist/authoritarian government, we cannot condone this act. I urge the entirety of the United Emperies to form an Embargo upon this Nation, as well as cutting off any and all support that may have been given to this atrocious Nation.

Emperor Aven Tannen

Supply aide to Mondoth that will assist military action and it shall be considered an act of war. The consequence being I shall eat you for lunch.

Emperor Justinian

Eat your for lunch... heh.

Official Statement from the Liberal Robenian Fascist Council:

The Liberal Robenian Fascist Council agrees with the actions taken by Farmina by amending their constitution to end the persecution and killing of socialists. We offer our support to Farmina and it should be noted that we condemn the actions by Mondoth for not pursuing peace. We shall, therefore, offer our help to the Farminian government militarily.

Official Statement from the Liberal Robenian Fascist Council:

The Liberal Robenian Fascist Council agrees with the actions taken by Farmina by amending their constitution to end the persecution and killing of socialists. We offer our support to Farmina and it should be noted that we condemn the actions by Mondoth for not pursuing peace. We shall, therefore, offer our help to the Farminian government militarily.

We thank Liberal Robenia for supporting us, although we are concerned you did not take any diplomatic action before launching head first into war.
I would like to request naval aid to help sink these Mondoth trespassers.

Emperor Justinian

OOC: for the record, and I may be remiss in not saying this before but I thought my terminology was clear; Mondothian naval vessels have yet to enter Farminan territorial waters. The term Exclusion zone, while conventionally meaning about the same as a blockade is not the same, an exclusion zone is declared around a countries territory, not in it. Its just a bit of diplo-military jargon I picked up and assumed it was well known (I do an unfortunate amount of that) I hope this doesn't come too late but I haven't noticed anyone reffering to my navy implicitly violating Farminan Territory (which it has not even though in a strictly diplomatic sense it does not recognize such a thing as existing)

Semi-official response from Krioval:

Would everybody please just stop moving things and shooting at things for ten minutes and let everybody sort out what in the seventy-five hells is going on? I mean, constitutional amendments and exclusion zones and Gods-only-know what else aside, is there really any reason that you all can't stop fighting just long enough to puzzle things out? And really, consider bringing this problem to Krioval to talk out, rather than seeing who can obliterate who the fastest. There's been plenty of death and destruction in the past few weeks to go around, ya know.

~ Raijin Dekker

OOC: No ship can fire 400 missiles in a minute. If you keep up this absurd claim, I'll ignore down a great deal of missiles.

IC:
The Farminan armada didn't move foward. It stopped, well out of the range of the enemy.

But twenty submarines did move foward, dispersed, but foward. Guided torpedos were at the ready, several hundred meter away from the target. The the torpedos flew out, 40 in the first volley, each backed by both radar and Under Water Motion and Sound Detector.

Farmina, I am sending two representatives to your country in order to plan and grow relations. Our air force is huge as most of our military funding goes towards it, the rest is devoted to the army. Therefore, I can not promise or commit any LR naval presence.

To Raijin Dekker

We would talk good sir, but no one seems interested in what we have to say.

Most countries didn't even look at diplomatic channels before actions of war or embargo were taken.

It is a sad reflection on so called 'humanitarians' when they act in this way.

Thomas Goth
Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs

Semi-official response from Krioval:

Would everybody please just stop moving things and shooting at things for ten minutes and let everybody sort out what in the seventy-five hells is going on? I mean, constitutional amendments and exclusion zones and Gods-only-know what else aside, is there really any reason that you all can't stop fighting just long enough to puzzle things out? And really, consider bringing this problem to Krioval to talk out, rather than seeing who can obliterate who the fastest. There's been plenty of death and destruction in the past few weeks to go around, ya know.

~ Raijin Dekker

Communiqué to Krioval

You will be pleased to learn that your frustration is shared by other nations. We, too, wish that the belligerents on both sides would stop their chest-pounding, take a breath, step back, count to ten, and think rationally.

You and I both know how unlikely that is.

Your attempts at a diplomatic settlement are admirable, but our long and sad experience has taught us that all we neutral nations can really hope to do in these situations is to step back and carefully hand out the band-aids and body bags.

- Ministry of External Affairs [name of sender suppressed]

OOC: No ship can fire 400 missiles in a minute. If you keep up this absurd claim, I'll ignore down a great deal of missiles.


OoC: Don't wana burst your bubble Farmina but my new Apocalypse class Arsenal Ship pumps out 600 missiles per minute...

But that’s what an arsenal ship is for right? And you also have to consider that the reload times are freaking huge! Not considering the expenses made by firing such a weapon, let alone four, let alone several times(reloading at port or at sea is tricky under fire)

IC:

The Empire wishes for nothing but peace and therefore will guard its ally against aggressions but will not aid said allies in increasing aggression against those that seek to destroy it.

But unfortunately, the “other” side is one of fools and cavemen where you cannot talk against and only the raw power of our military might has any chance of stopping.

Farmina will back down from its offensive actions or will do so alone and unsupported by DDF troops and DRN ships.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Liberal Robenia shall back down from any use of it's military for 24 hours. I suggest all do the same.

Hitro Lerbert
Chancellor of Liberal Robenia

You're all crazy socialists. No true capitalist would waste money and workers on unbelievably pointless violence such as this. It's not conductive to profits at all.

Moreover, the event that spurred this inconceivably stupid chain of events was not a particularly capitalist move either. It was just as 'socialist' as the socialists being executed! No amount of TV coverage could make back the money that would be lost from executing one million workers/consumers.

Did all of these people act upon their socialist beliefs?

Socialists are not conductive to profits; their beliefs are warped, blasphemous. But unless they act upon their beliefs, there is little need for action. Many socialists can be forced to lead a normal, healthy life. Some can even lead a profitable life, and even die with no debts! And if they do act on their socialist notions, a much better system is to incarcerate them in one of your corporate economic incarceration facilities, which I assume, as a self-proclaimed 'capitalist', you have in excessive numbers. There, they can work off their debts to the economy and then some. Do you know what murdering them does? Cost money. Take away a source of labour. Take away a potential consumer. It is a wholly pointless waste of human resources.

The Divine Economy, in all its wisdom, has a habit of purging anti-economists from the Great Marketplace naturally. I have a feeling we won't be seeing you around in any fit state for much longer. Though the Allied Corporations have agreed that any future trade with your nation be avoided; the insurance costs of trading with a nation ruled by insane socialists are usually quite high, high enough to cause a loss.

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You're all crazy socialists. No true capitalist would waste money and workers on unbelievably pointless violence such as this. It's not conductive to profits at all.

Moreover, the event that spurred this inconceivably stupid chain of events was not a particularly capitalist move either. It was just as 'socialist' as the socialists being executed! No amount of TV coverage could make back the money that would be lost from executing one million workers/consumers.

Did all of these people act upon their socialist beliefs?

Socialists are not conductive to profits; their beliefs are warped, blasphemous. But unless they act upon their beliefs, there is little need for action. Many socialists can be forced to lead a normal, healthy life. Some can even lead a profitable life, and even die with no debts! And if they do act on their socialist notions, a much better system is to incarcerate them in one of your corporate economic incarceration facilities, which I assume, as a self-proclaimed 'capitalist', you have in excessive numbers. There, they can work off their debts to the economy and then some. Do you know what murdering them does? Cost money. Take away a source of labour. Take away a potential consumer. It is a wholly pointless waste of human resources.

The Divine Economy, in all its wisdom, has a habit of purging anti-economists from the Great Marketplace naturally. I have a feeling we won't be seeing you around in any fit state for much longer. Though the Allied Corporations have agreed that any future trade with your nation be avoided; the insurance costs of trading with a nation ruled by insane socialists are usually quite high, high enough to cause a loss.

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they never said they were capitalists, smart one

Farmina will not enter talks or stand down until Mondoth ends their blockade of Farmina, and return all their vessels to their waters.

Thomas Goth
Chancellor for Foriegn Affairs

OOC: No ship can fire 400 missiles in a minute. If you keep up this absurd claim, I'll ignore down a great deal of missiles.

IC:
The Farminan armada didn't move foward. It stopped, well out of the range of the enemy.

But twenty submarines did move foward, dispersed, but foward. Guided torpedos were at the ready, several hundred meter away from the target. The the torpedos flew out, 40 in the first volley, each backed by both radar and Under Water Motion and Sound Detector.

well out of range? Unless you're on the other side of your country from my fleet you're 'within range' A Shrike SCRAMjet cruise missile (The design My ships use) has a range of just over 1k km, by intrnational convention a nations territoial waters extend less than 300km from their shore, I don't know where these ships came from but if they came from Farmina and are headed towards my fleet, they're in range, also If you're within several hundred meters, hek, if your within a few hundred KILOmeters you're impounding on the area patrolled by my SSK defense subs and SSN Hunter Killers, and that is not force to reckon with with impunity.
(To avoid your ability to find GODmoding in the most ridiculous places, The above reference to my Submarines as a force to be reckoned with is meant in the same vein as the earlier coment that my Fighters would be 'nasty' and is not an actual relation to any technology you now or have ever possessed)
IC: The Nation of Mondoth a grees to a staged stand down of our offensive fleet units currently within the Farminan theater and will send representatives to any peace talks following a similiar stand down of current military units also within the Farminan Theater. However, Mondoth will not at this time recognize the current government of Farmina nor engage in trade with Farmina or its allies.

they never said they were capitalists, smart one

OOC: They're a member of the 'Anti-Communist Entourage', they're killing socialists... it stands to reason that they're capitalists.

OOC: They're a member of the 'Anti-Communist Entourage', they're killing socialists... it stands to reason that they're capitalists.
OOC: Wrong, they're fascists if you looked hard enough, you can read up on it here http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html

EDIT: And just for your information, socialism and communism are not the same thing.

IC: Farminan military units will end all orders to engage Mondoth's military when encounted.

OOC: LR from the definition you provided I don't think Farmina's fascist. I think of them as 'unique.'

IC: Farminan military units will end all orders to engage Mondoth's military when encounted.

OOC: LR from the definition you provided I don't think Farmina's fascist. I think of them as 'unique.'

OOC: Conservative with fascist roots?

IC:

Good day to the Farminan and Mondoth leaders,

I request each country send two representatives to meet in my capital city of New Robenia to discuss peace terms. This meeting shall take place in three days.

Regards,


Hitro Lerbert
Chancellor of Liberal Robenia

OOC: Just seconds ago I finished typing a post where dignitaries were invited to my nation.

Here is the link:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8625040#post8625040

OOC: Conservative with fascist roots?

IC:

Good day to the Farminan and Mondoth leaders,

I request each country send two representatives to meet in my capital city of New Robenia to discuss peace terms. This meeting shall take place in three days.

Regards,


Hitro Lerbert
Chancellor of Liberal Robenia


We will send our senior representative Susan DelMarr and her aide James Brooke

We will send our senior representative Susan DelMarr and her aide James Brooke

The meeting has been redirected to Farmina

--Capitol City of The Holy Empire--
The day was quite beautiful. The sun shone brightly all over The Holy Empire Of Christopher Thompson that day, and amidst the rustling trees in the wind, and the bright blue sky, one could almost forget the mourning of Christopher Thompson's untimely death. The war in Dregruk was nearing its' conclusion, and the navy had been back for a fewe months now, as the Marine Corps mopped up the remaining resisters in the area. Everyone was overjoyed at the sight of peace, if it only lasted a little while. And a little while was all it looked like it was going to last.
"What the Hell is this?!" Fuehrer Alucard said in both anger and pure childish questioning, rising from his chair in the office as he perred at it.
"It's a sattilite photo over Farmina during routine recon, and it piqued our intrests." Replied Lt. General Conners, head of the recon operations of The Holy Empire.
"Well I should damn well hope it would pique your intrests, you baffoon! Now, where did this photo come from? Dregruk? Some other helplessly pathetic nation?"
"No sir. From The Holy Empire of Farmina."
He looked up with renewed intrest. "You're fucking kidding me, right? A Holy Empire is persecuting thousands?"
"Yes," he replied matter-of-factly, "in fact it's also a non-socialist nation. Apperently, from what we've been able to discern, these men, women, and children, are all socialists. So be it, damn reds."
The Fuehrer, at the mention of the murder of women and children, suddenly became furious as his jaw dropped in awe. After what the Lt. General said last, he struck across the face, hard enough to draw blood, and cause him to plumet to the ground. "Don't you EVER say that!I should have you killed on the very ground you stand, you fool! I would support a compassionate socialist over THIS!" He looked at the photo with disgust as Conners picked himself back up, wiping himself of his blood. Alucard peered up at him as if he had just appeared there, and said with contempt, "Now get OUT of my sight! And come back with the High Admiral!" The man saluted and was quickly to oblige, practically scrambling out the door.
A holy Empire do this? He questioned himself, and decided what must be done, even before the man Conners was out of the hallway leading to his office. He must make a show of force.
--3 Hours later--
A camera, of direct link to Farmina was established, and Fuehrer Alucard began sending the message, which would replay once more for those hard of hearing in Farmina. The message hailed the leader of the country to respond rather quickly. It went:
Alucard was in his chair, seated neatly behind the mahogony desk, in his red trenchcoat, one favored in the 1600s, with his red long-brimmed hat about his head. His shades of a most unusual shape were on, and he had his legs crossed, hands placed neatly upon his lap. He spoke with eloquence and a strong assurance as if his mere words could change reality. He spoke, "Greetings, most esteemed leader of The Holy Empire of Farmina," he said with a glare and an underlying tone of sickening. "My name, as you may well know, is Alucard, Fuehrer of The Holy Empire of Christopher Thompson. We recently came upon a set of recon sattelite photos-" They popped up on the screen, moving from one to the next "-that detail, quite clearly, what appears to be a concentration camp. However, it is not just that. There appear to be people staked to the ground, and in this one, a child," he changed tone to a somewhat loud yet controlled yell, "A mere CHILD being shot in the head like a DOG!"
The camera snapped back to him, now standing, hands on his face, shaking his head as if he was a father seeing his child make a careless error. "What you have done must be explained. You have twenty-four hours to explain why you feel the need to murder, en masse, thousands of your own populace." He spoke these words in a deep, hard voice that was far beyond anger and contemp, it was pity and God-like, as if by mere word he could smash the man who heard it. "If you do not respond, if we are attacked, or if your pathetic excuse for this disgusting act is not sanctified by us, despite your pety arguments, we will come down upon you like a holy flame, scorching the earth that we cross, and turning flesh and bone to ash. We will come crashing down upon your land, dragging the black iron horse of death upon us, lest you prove your innocense. In the name of the Father, the Son, and The Holy Ghost, we will PURIFY YOUR LAND! Amen." Then, a clock appeared. It counted down from 24 hours, and continued to do so.
--The Holy Docks--
Fifteen divisions prepared to leave that night. The preistene docks, carved into the very rock of a gigantic cliff face on the islands around the Holy Empire became a hive of activity, men stirring themselves awake and scurrying around. Some were getting on ships, some loading supplies on them, and some were loosening the moors that tied them in. Of the great docks, Fifteen groups launched that night, met up and pulled thirty knots to the nearest international waters of Farmina as quickly as possible. It would be a good four days before they arrived, but they made a mad dash nonetheless. Five of the divisions were assault divisions, which were no more than heavilt modified NIMITZ carriers, designed to accomodate 12,000 Marines and 100 Chinooks and their normal compliment of tanks and vehicles. The other ten groups, however, were pure navy. They each consisted of 2 NIMITZ CVNs, 10 VLS AEGIS Ticonderogas, 2 AOE-6 Supply ships, 5 Los Angeles SSNs, and 5 Seawolf SSNs. They thumbed away through the black waters of the night, with only the moon shining its pale silvery light upon the decks as the ships cut through the water much like a knife being pulled through fresh bread, parting with the Holy Empire ever furthur as time dragged on, ever nearing Farmina, which, in the eyes of The Holy Empire had lost such a title.

The Holy Empire of Christopher Thompson:

We request you stand down as peace process negotiations are taking place. You are welcome to ask Farmina to attend. If you do not stand down, we will be forced to use other means.

Regards,

Mark Nowenskie
Spokesman for the Council of Liberal Robenian Diplomatic Relations

In light of the peace talks, The Holy Empire will halt it's navy from attacking, but will have a continued presense in International waters One day out from Farmina's waters. It has sent the delegate Shelby Sievers, and she should arrive soon.
OOC: As soon as he approves me being there :P