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Commonwealth Shipyards today announced the placement of a new missile boat on the international market. Named the Tiufekchiev class, these boats are designed primarily for patrol of home waters, but do have a 2,000 nm range, and the hull strength for transoceanic cruises.

The Tiufekchiev class has been in service for over a year now with the Commonwealth Coast Guard, and have destroyed 12 illegal fishing vessels in one-on-one engagements, utilizing ASMs and their 4 inch auto cannon.

These vessels are not built of steel, but are manufactured from spiderglass, which is reinforced with aluminum. An explanation of spiderglass can be found at the bottom of this post. This lends for a light, but highly strong construction. The high strength of spiderglass serves as a layer of armor as well as a making the ships survivable in up through sea state 5. They possess high speed, and are capable of being re-supplied from larger vessels, thereby undergoing longer cruises.


Tiufekchiev Class Patrol Boat Missile:

Engines:
2 Commonwealth Engine Works W-32 marine diesel engines, 3,600 shp each.

Dimensions:
Length: 140 feet
Beam: 35 feet
Displacement: approx. 275 tons full load

Speed: max 38 kts; cruise 25 kts.

Range: 2,225 nm @ 25 kts.

Crew: 4 officers and 17 enlisted

Weapons:
***1 76mm Auto cannon, forward.

***2 ASROC vertical launch modules, mounted in tandem immediately before the superstructure; 8 missiles (4x2)

***1 8 cell Sea Sparrow Launcher. On extreme rear of superstructure, 16 reloads

***5 Harpoon vertical launch modules, mounted triangularly (see below). 20 missiles (4x5).

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NEW!
***5 Penguin vertical launch modules, mounted triangularly (see below). 20 missiles (4x5), 20 reloads.

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The Tiufekchiev class ships mounts a powerful radar in an egg shaped dome atop the superstructure. It is capable of performing sea scan out to 60 nm and air search out to 100 nm. It also has high quality radio communications, as well as being Street Fighter capable. GPS and LORAN receivers are both provided.

ASW is facilitated by the presence of ASROC launchers, with detection provided by a simple passive sonar system. The only decoy system provided is a simple towed decoy, on a 250 foot cable. However, due to the size of the boats, evasive maneuvers are normally effective in avoiding torpedoes, while the ship is small enough to often pass for a fishing boat on a submarine's sonar scopes.


Finally, the price tag:
$1.5 million USD.


Spiderglass:
Due to a dwindling supply of iron ore in the Commonwealth, a new material was sought that was both strong and cheap. The solution was spider silk, which tends to be 5 times as strong as steal. However, how to employ this was a quandary. The solution was found to be to use a fiberglass construction technique, except to use spider's silk as the material. This produces a strong but extremely light material, which can be manufactured to almost any shape and thickness. Patent Pending.

The Free Lands of Nedalia would like to take delivery of 5 Tiufekchiev class patrol boats, totalling $7.5 which we will wire to you in a full sum. We await your prompt reply. Thank you.

Gerard Louvre
Minster of Defense

Mationland is willing to purchase 10 of your ships , totalling 15 Million USD which we will wire to you once we get your reply and the shipment starting . Note that we will test the 1st ship delivered to see if it meets our standards .
we look forward to have future deals with you .

Mationland Minister Of War
and
Mationland Minister Of Defence
and
Mationland Minister Of Finance
and with full support from his majesty ,
Dictator Of Mationland

OoC: I'm not going to buy this since I have an excellent coastal vessle myself but I do have several comments;

1) Provide pictures if you can

2) Provide some more stats on the ship, how long, wide, crew, speed, etc.

3) For god sakes, remove the harpoon launchers, they can't dent a pack of butter...

4) Could you explain how the spiderglass is made and how it works?(OoC'ly so I won't use the information IC'ly) since I am interested in how it should.

5) Add some decoys, atleast towed torpedo decoy since they cost near nothing and give your ship an extra chance against torpedo attacks.

6) Soon as you provide the other stats I can say if its too cheap or to expensive, probably to cheap.

Mationland and Nedalia, both orders are confirmed and will be filled via T-AK ships.

OoC: I'm not going to buy this since I have an excellent coastal vessle myself but I do have several comments;


Stats will be expanded later, when I get time. The cost will be cheap as everything I sell is cheap. Harpoon missiles are perfectly effective missiles, as well as being easy to aquire. Decoy's wouldnt be a bad idea.

As for spiderglass:
Due to a dwindling supply of iron ore in the Commonwealth, a new material was sought that was both strong and cheap. The solution was spider silk, which tends to be 5 times as strong as steal. However, how to employ this was a quadry. The solution was found to be to use a fiberglass construction technique, except to use spider's silk as the material. This produces a strong but extremely light material, which can be manufactured to almost any shape and thickness. Patent Pending.

Rommelwood would like to buy some of this weaponry. :D

Rommelwood would like to buy some of this weaponry. :D
A number of boats desired would be nice.

A number of boats desired would be nice.

100 Boats to test please. :D

[OOC: Interesting design. Is the spiderglass technique used anywhere IRL or is there a RL basis for it? Also, how is the patrol boat constructed for seaworthiness? I'm assuming it would need a fairly high freeboard since that was a major reason monitors were poor choices for oceangoing ships.

BTW, I notice you mentioned Upper Marlboro in your profile. I used to go to PGCC!]

100 Boats to test please. :D
Sure. Delievery will be made by T-AK container ships, as soon as $150 million USD is wired.

[OOC: Interesting design. Is the spiderglass technique used anywhere IRL or is there a RL basis for it? Also, how is the patrol boat constructed for seaworthiness? I'm assuming it would need a fairly high freeboard since that was a major reason monitors were poor choices for oceangoing ships.

BTW, I notice you mentioned Upper Marlboro in your profile. I used to go to PGCC!]

I believe I invented spiderglass, as I've never heard anyone else use it. It just struck me one day that it would be the most practical way to employ spider silk as a steel replacement.

As for seaworthiness, it was designed primarily as a coastal defence vessel, but with the Commonwealth claiming a 200 nm exclusion zone, some level of ocean going ability was nessicary. It does have a fairly high freeboard.

As to PGCC, that's about 10 miles north of me.

Tiufekchiev Class Patrol Boat Missile:



wait... so the boats are missiles?

wait... so the boats are missiles?
No, they're patrol boats that fire missiles. See: here (http://united-states-navy.com/pboats/phm.htm) for another example of such naming.

Bump.

ay? ay? ay?

Haveing both a fair sized SAM system and a Bunch of Harpoon tubes (particualrly with relaods for each) seems a bit much on such small vessel especial since you seem to claim a fair degree of endurance.

Also why on earth would you waste expensive Harpoons on fishing boats, the 3" gun would do the job of sinking them perfectly well and its not as if fihsing vessels tend to put up much of a fight to begin with.

My limted suggestions would be:
down grade the gun to a DP 57mm mount
switch the medium rnage SAMs for the likes of Simbad or RAM
replace the 5 harpoon with 2 tubes for Otomat 2 or 4tubes for late model exocet. Sea Skua might be an alternative as it is nice and light

Haveing both a fair sized SAM system and a Bunch of Harpoon tubes (particualrly with relaods for each) seems a bit much on such small vessel especial since you seem to claim a fair degree of endurance.

Also why on earth would you waste expensive Harpoons on fishing boats, the 3" gun would do the job of sinking them perfectly well and its not as if fihsing vessels tend to put up much of a fight to begin with.

My limted suggestions would be:
down grade the gun to a DP 57mm mount
switch the medium rnage SAMs for the likes of Simbad or RAM
replace the 5 harpoon with 2 tubes for Otomat 2 or 4tubes for late model exocet. Sea Skua might be an alternative as it is nice and light

Because I can. We have problems with pirates and do not wish to risk our boats in close engagements usually. The purpose of using Sea Sparrow over the use of a shorter range weapon system is to defend against the only real threat to a missile boat, which is helicopters: ie Sea Lynx helicopters armed with Sea Suka missiles.

Furthermore, I am not interested in your suggestions nor your opinion of my boat. This thread is not for taking a poll, it is for taking orders.

I have now wired you the money.

Thanks.

I have now wired you the money.

Thanks.
No problem. Ships are on their way.

Hi , Seversky ,

I just need help how to wire the money to you .

Thanks lot ,
Mationland Minister Of Finannce .

If this thread is for taking orders it would help if your design was at least feasable.

Based on soem quick calculation you are trying to pack 90tons of weapons onto a 125ton vessel which doesn't leave a huge amount of room for useful thigns like engines, fuel or your much vaunted radar.

300tons might be a more useful displacement or this vessel.
Oh and relaods for VLS tubes are a bit pointless you would be aswell just putting 20 VLS cells on...

If this thread is for taking orders it would help if your design was at least feasable.

Based on soem quick calculation you are trying to pack 90tons of weapons onto a 125ton vessel which doesn't leave a huge amount of room for useful thigns like engines, fuel or your much vaunted radar.

300tons might be a more useful displacement or this vessel.
Oh and relaods for VLS tubes are a bit pointless you would be aswell just putting 20 VLS cells on...
There are no reloads for the VLS cells. There are just 20 VLS cells. However, you're right, I'll bump up the displacement.


Mationland: just say you wired it. Its one of those nationstates things.

The Armed Republic Of Mationland has wired seversky the money . We hope to receive a reply , the ships (as soon as possible) and we also wish to have future technologies trading/sales with you .

Mationland Minister Of Finance
and
Mationland Minister Of War
and
Mationland Minister Of Defence

OOC: This is quite a nice ship actually. A little cramped, but then my ships are often rather cramped. I assume that this is for use against pirates, smugglers etc rather than navies, because as previously stated the Harpoon isnt a very good missile IRL let alone in NS.

OOC: This is quite a nice ship actually. A little cramped, but then my ships are often rather cramped. I assume that this is for use against pirates, smugglers etc rather than navies, because as previously stated the Harpoon isnt a very good missile IRL let alone in NS.
Thank you. Its purpose is not against any particular threat, but was seen as a cheap solution to the need to patrol national waters. Its packed with weapons so that it can realistically replace frigates and destroyers in coastal waters, and free them up to be used on the high seas. If anything, its main enemy would be submarines.

Stats updated.

New: alternative to Harpoon missile availible: Penguin ASM.

Bump

How much will it cost to buy the production rights to Spiderglass? It seems like a material we could have much use for.

How much will it cost to buy the production rights to Spiderglass? It seems like a material we could have much use for.
Errr... hold that thought. I'll start a new thread for that.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409253