The Westwind Chronicles- Your opinion
Automagfreek
28-03-2005, 01:06
OOC: 'The Westwind Chronicles', my long running saga in the story of Automagfreek that kicked off with a shocker: Damien Dreadfire had a son. Since July 2004, I've added onto the story and did my best to perfect the series in any way I could. After becoming quite the international figure, I decided to introduce another character, but this time one that some people already knew: Rayne.
The timing was perfect, there was massive spiritual turbulence throughout the country, and the vile spirit of Rayne crossed between the realms and came back into this world. Her hatred for Damien drove her to manifest once again and take Dreadfire down once and for all. After luring Azrael into her clutches and tainting his mind, Rayne quickly began attacking anything and everything under Damien's control, and before we all knew it there was a full blown civil war.
Here is an index for the entire series, which I consider one of my best ever. Feel free to browse these threads over, but keep in mind that they are all closed now.
The Westwind Chronicles
...As The Flames Purify (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=339734)
Abomination! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385455)
BREAKING NEWS: New government installed in Automagfreek, chaos imminent (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391482)
Domination (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393450)
Rise- The Final Chapter (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8540408)
End of the AMF civil conflict- Dreadfire victorious (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=408071)
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I'm thinking of starting another series, and the response I get to this series will determine if I do or not. Thanks to all who participated and read.
-AMF-
Automagfreek
28-03-2005, 01:32
Bump
Automagfreek
28-03-2005, 02:51
Another bump for comments.
Granted, I just skimmed much of it, but what I did read in-depth was excellent.
And no, I'm not just saying that so you won't invade me. :D
Roach-Busters
28-03-2005, 03:23
You'd have to be an idiot not to love AMF's work. :p
Crimmond
28-03-2005, 10:12
*lip quivers*
Damn I wish I could write as well as you.
If you could make a series of novels about Damien's life, I'd buy it, no question's asked. I'd even help you as much as I could on the latter books, that might involve me.
But with or without publication, you are a kick ass writer.
Dumpsterdam
28-03-2005, 10:45
You'd have to be an idiot not to love AMF's work. :p
Make me an idiot then RB, sure AMF's stories are pretty good but I have seen better writers around, not only on NS but also in my circle of online friends.
A friend of mine; Destiny, she's only 13 but she outdoes me, and frankly everyone on our RP site she's even publishing her first book soon.
So AMF, even with your long time on NS, a few improvements here and there would be in order such as going deeper into what exactly your charachters are doing(military actions are your weakest side I think)
Now enough with the sucking up and act like people, type up some critisme since its only going to improve his writing if he tries on to improve on what we think are his weakspots.
Praetonia
28-03-2005, 11:39
I think you're a great RPer at the kind of RP that you do, even if I don't like to RP in that style myself (ie the Fire and Brimestone, mainly focusing on characters etc). It'd be nice to see another 'Saga' though, as the last one was certainly an enjoyable read.
Automagfreek
29-03-2005, 00:49
So AMF, even with your long time on NS, a few improvements here and there would be in order such as going deeper into what exactly your charachters are doing(military actions are your weakest side I think)
I do that intentionally. I paint the picture to a certain extent, and I let your imagination do the rest. I refuse to be one of those RPers who tells you exactly how long their cahracter waits before drawing breath again, or tells you exactly how many bullets each soldier carries. Over-detail kills stories, and I provide just enough to keep the reader focused and entertained. I have no intention of changing my style.
Dumpsterdam
29-03-2005, 08:08
Well thats not exactly the point, I do that too but most of the time you RP your sentinels or warbands as one group of men which makes me believe you;
1) Don't want to type this up, preffering this way of organisation.
2) Don't know what the hell you are talking about in the first place.
Although I highly doubt the second one. To me, your army's like a mob of armed people lacking most forms of organisation using the human wave tactic as primary means of overcoming the enemy.
Its your choice to RP them like this, but its the only thing that makes me twitch my eye from time to time when I read your stories.
Automagfreek
29-03-2005, 19:14
Well thats not exactly the point, I do that too but most of the time you RP your sentinels or warbands as one group of men which makes me believe you;
1) Don't want to type this up, preffering this way of organisation.
2) Don't know what the hell you are talking about in the first place.
Although I highly doubt the second one. To me, your army's like a mob of armed people lacking most forms of organisation using the human wave tactic as primary means of overcoming the enemy.
Its your choice to RP them like this, but its the only thing that makes me twitch my eye from time to time when I read your stories.
I prefer to use the human wave tactic, but I can also RP many different spectrums of war. Not to sound arrogant, but I was considered by many to be a military superpower long before I created the Sentinels, mainly for my ability to RP spec ops and incorporate different combat tactics.
I just prefer the human wave, it's interesting to me.
Crimmond
29-03-2005, 19:19
You were considered to be the single greatest threat to several GDODAD nations. Steel was just the olny one that tried something with you on a rugular basis.
And I would critique his writing style, but I can't. I like it. I try to write in that style, allbeit with a bit more detail, so the times I don't include detail stand out more.
Guffingford
29-03-2005, 19:27
I've read not all of your civil war but so far it's a good read, but I agree with Dumpsterdam, writing may be your strongest point, it certainly isn't strategy. And it does make me wonder, Automagfreek has already put little to no strategy in his present RP's, how on earth did your long-gone opponents defend themselves?
Automagfreek
29-03-2005, 19:33
I've read not all of your civil war but so far it's a good read, but I agree with Dumpsterdam, writing may be your strongest point, it certainly isn't strategy. And it does make me wonder, Automagfreek has already put little to no strategy in his present RP's, how on earth did your long-gone opponents defend themselves?
As Crimm said, in my heyday I was all about strategy. And as far as the long since vanquished go, let's just say I have many, many tricks up my sleeve that I always pull out. My 'human wave' style may not seem very strategic, but I always have at least a half a dozen methods of staying one step ahead of an opponent.
The FWS slaughter comes to mind, along with WW4 and WW5. A TON of strategy on my part, but I honestly do not go the extra mile on strategy unless it's needed.
The FWS slaughter comes to mind, along with WW4 and WW5. A TON of strategy on my part, but I honestly do not go the extra mile on strategy unless it's needed.
Unified Sith here,
Now as usual I attempt to criticise you whenever possible AMF, mainly because I’m a bitch, but I did vote that it was a good series. I like your writing style, and I too am a firm believe in keeping out the tactical part, but at times it is necessary just to give the reader a greater feel and scope to the situation at hand. Though a writer in learning, I have tried putting a little bit of tactics into my rp’s with detailed descriptions and it does work a treat.
Perhaps you could try it, write out the same post twice with and without the military part in it and see what the reader and yourself likes the most?
Oh, and killing FWS, yes my greatest memory of NS. Thank you for ridding him once again, even though I tried my hardest.
I've read all of those in-depth and I have to say that they are some of the best threads I have ever read...Some of the best books, maybe.
Please write another one! The whole world would benefit!
(Well, maybe not, but the writing world would!)
Kriegorgrad
29-03-2005, 22:39
OoC: For heaven's sake, strategy isn't the foundation of good writing! Look at Tarlachia and The Golden Scimitar, they both wrote very well and they don't need to implement strategies and tactics in order to catch the reader's eye. The same holds true for Automagfreek.
Stay your course, I say, don't become like all the other IIers hell-bent on "winning" a war rather than RPing it well.
Dumpsterdam
30-03-2005, 06:52
Stay your course, I say, don't become like all the other IIers hell-bent on "winning" a war rather than RPing it well.
Getting all suggestive Krieg?
Kriegorgrad
30-03-2005, 13:39
Getting all suggestive Krieg?
OoC: Of course, I'm famed for my subtlety. ;)
Xenonier
30-03-2005, 13:57
OoC: For heaven's sake, strategy isn't the foundation of good writing! Look at Tarlachia and The Golden Scimitar, they both wrote very well and they don't need to implement strategies and tactics in order to catch the reader's eye. The same holds true for Automagfreek.
Stay your course, I say, don't become like all the other IIers hell-bent on "winning" a war rather than RPing it well.
So true, so very, very true.
Now, onto the story. Another would be awesome. True, you left out strategy, but when I finished reading the first piece, I didn't expect great strategic detail, nor did I receive. I got highly polished and attention grabbing roleplaying, and I enjoyed the read thoroughly.