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President Holtz stepped up to the podium in a conference room in his home. He waited for everyone to quiet down, and then began his speech:

"My fellow Holy Paradisians and people of all nations. An evil is trying to regain the strength it had not long ago, an evil that hides beneath the well meant idea of unlimited civil rights and a government-controlled economy, where everything is equal and such. The evil I am talking about is Communism, the parasitic worm that infests all things free and destroys them. If we do not stop Communism now, our children and their children and their children will be living in a country ruled by an evil, fear-mongering totalitarian dictator, who will control everything you do. Communism comes in many forms: Socialism, Anarchism, Marxism but they all are evil. They comprise of an evil triumverate of totalitarian governments that will spit on all that has to do with democracy. They will burn down your churches, your temples, your synagouges, your mosques, as they know that morality, decency, and religious beliefs will be their downfall. If you own a corporation, they will come in, close your company, and maybe even kill you! If you are a worker, they will make you do jobs you don't like, and if you complain, they will kill you, too. No one is safe from them: Men, Women, Children, they will kill you if you criticize them, go to church, or anything else that you rightfully disobey their sick, perverted system. Babies, they promote abortion and such so now you are in danger! Elderly folks, they will kill you while saying that you are, "Being freed from suffering," So as you can see, no one is safe from Communism, and that's why we, the free peoples of the world and the people who are being oppressed under these Communist governments, must rise up and destroy these evil governments before the world is taken over by those psychotic Communists. Thank you, and God bless Holy Paradise."

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Though we are a capitalist society ourselves, Japanese Antarctica does not endorse the statements made by Holy Paradise. In fact, the above statements are contradictory.

...an evil that hides beneath the well meant idea of unlimited civil rights...
...our children and their children and their children will be living in a country ruled by an evil, fear-mongering totalitarian dictator, who will control everything you do...

Although Communism may not be the right choice, it is by no means evil.

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The statements made by the so-called: "Holy-paradise" are greatly offensive and abusive of the great state of Gashtekka, it's people, and it's goverment.

We have for some time now known it is infact - the democracies and capatalists of the world which are "evil". Communism, socialism, (anarchism is not of these two) are goverments which care for the people above all, they do not seek to take advtage of their peoples, but instead seek to enrich their people's lives with a sense of unity and generosity. To break down the walls of injustice and division.

The democracies of the world however - can never be more than bickering childish states of inefficiency; our people have long realised this is the way, after our leaders have shown them the way forward towards a greater sense of humanity.

With constant disagreements, and fickle "elections" doing naught but provoking a simplistic popularism in goverment, providing weak and lieing politicians as well as providing situations for the population to become divided and weakened in opinion and resolve.

This also provokes injustice in politics, as it is well known voters are not nessisarily the best judges of quality - and as has been afore mentioned - elected politicians can and will lie to get into office.

Capatalism, spawned by democracy, is sin too, it in an unwatched and un-goverened state will promote greed, unfriendly competition and such things as job insecurity.

These evils of capatalism and democracy directly oppose what must be the way forward for humanity; unity, co-hesion, strength and sharing generosity.

Think of goverment like this; a state being the parent, a people being a child.
A good, strong goverment will be the parent. - pointing the people in the right way, and getting them to work unquestioningly towards greater acts of humanity, responsibility and unity, not division - However, a democratic goverment; will simply be the most popular child on the street being allowed to bully those small minorities which are not on the best of terms with him/her.

These are several reasons why strong, solid socialist or communist leadership are the only ways forward for a humane and progressive society.

The socialist or communist goverment may not nessiarly grant the greatest political freedoms, but it will grant equal social freedoms for it's peoples, so your comments of it "tearing down your churches" are noting but black propoganda lies.

-Diplomat's statement

(OOC: Holy Paradise, by the amount of "bumping your doing, it seems like some kind of dance :D ..."the bumb"...no...o.k, forget it)

IC: His Excellency, Supreme General Emporer of Naglegrad, Nagle I approched the podium hastily set up out side the imperial palace, where the monarchy had once resided. He felt that after haveing had so much to drink, perhaps now wasn't the best time to make a speach.

"Peoples of the free and democratic world. I, SGE Nagle I, feel it is my duty to correct a horrible lie that is being prepetuated by the capatilitic fanatics, who seek nothing but their own success at the expeness of others. We, the Communist nations of the world, the protectors of the underprivilaged, are constantly under attack from those who would gladly turn on their own homeland if it bought them more money. Evil? How is provideing for the health and education of our peoples evil, instead of telling them "tough luck. My father is a rich oil company owner, and I get better health care then you. You should have been born into the right family". That, that is the true evil. Capitlism. All the wealth of the world, held in the hands of a few, who use it to cause war, and to perpetuate their false religions. "It is Gods plan for you to be poor. In heaven you will receive your reward. Now give all your money to the King, for he is Gods right hand man" Pah!!!! Capitlism and Religion, the true evils of the world. It is our duty, the Communist Nations of the World, to stand against those who would keep people down for their own gain, those who hold the world in a grip of fear by their wars and lies of "afterlifes" and "Gods plan". We are the defenders of the peoples, we are the ones who spread the truth, instead of spreading lies of plans and hard luck. We are the Government of the people, we are the true world order!!!!

(Rapturious applause, followed by SGE Nagle I staggering off the stage)

The Colony of Magna Cartman finds these statements truly unacceptable.

It is because of nations like these that we are currently in the midst of political upheaval, people who think they can have democratically elected governments, instead of a single president who manages the country, with his mayors beneath him.

The people need only elect one person as the president (for the presidents life), once they have made their choice that is it, final, sealed. They decide and must live by everything you do. All national affairs should be decided by the single person, city affairs by the president appointed mayor (who is also appointed for life).

Democracy is unstable and evil. The Magna Cartman Colony will not allow this to spread to it's own nation, and as such states such as your own are dangerous to our security. You will give the likes of our Elante City the belief that democracy is good.

T.R. Cairo
Presidential Castle
Neptune, Magna Cartman Colony

I stand were I am. Communism is an athiestic dictatorship and must be stopped. I will never stoop down to the level of such. I truly feel sorry for your people, Communist leaders, because they want freedom so bad, and you won't give it to them.

(OOC: Holy Paradise, by the amount of "bumping your doing, it seems like some kind of dance :D ..."the bumb"...no...o.k, forget it)

IC: His Excellency, Supreme General Emporer of Naglegrad, Nagle I approched the podium hastily set up out side the imperial palace, where the monarchy had once resided. He felt that after haveing had so much to drink, perhaps now wasn't the best time to make a speach.

"Peoples of the free and democratic world. I, SGE Nagle I, feel it is my duty to correct a horrible lie that is being prepetuated by the capatilitic fanatics, who seek nothing but their own success at the expeness of others. We, the Communist nations of the world, the protectors of the underprivilaged, are constantly under attack from those who would gladly turn on their own homeland if it bought them more money. Evil? How is provideing for the health and education of our peoples evil, instead of telling them "tough luck. My father is a rich oil company owner, and I get better health care then you. You should have been born into the right family". That, that is the true evil. Capitlism. All the wealth of the world, held in the hands of a few, who use it to cause war, and to perpetuate their false religions. "It is Gods plan for you to be poor. In heaven you will receive your reward. Now give all your money to the King, for he is Gods right hand man" Pah!!!! Capitlism and Religion, the true evils of the world. It is our duty, the Communist Nations of the World, to stand against those who would keep people down for their own gain, those who hold the world in a grip of fear by their wars and lies of "afterlifes" and "Gods plan". We are the defenders of the peoples, we are the ones who spread the truth, instead of spreading lies of plans and hard luck. We are the Government of the people, we are the true world order!!!!

(Rapturious applause, followed by SGE Nagle I staggering off the stage)
Religion is no evil! Rather the "religion"you follow: Marxism, is the evil.

The Grand Assembly condemns The anti-communist statements made by Holy Paradise's leaders. Communism is not a way of life but simply a way the Government is structured and how it affects its citizens daily lives. Communism by definition is simply giving power back to the workers. Democracy, though more widley acclaimed as the worlds #1 government structure, has its flaws as well such as corruption, fixed elections, and even government spending deficits. The Grand Assembly advises The Holy Paradise to choose its words more carefully next time before these blatent and irresponsible comments come back and bite you in the -censored-.

General Blackshadow-President of The Grand Assembly
General Gerat- Vice President of The Grand Assembly
General Buttinik- Chairman
General Haitian- Chairman
General Johnson- Chariman

Another speech by Pres. Holtz:

"Peoples of the world. Communist leaders spread lies that they care for their people, while their people live in filth and oppression. They say that capitalists don't care for the poor. On the contrary, we do care for the poor. We have welfare programs which give them money, and if they invest wisely, they will be able to open small businesses, which can grow, and that wouldn't happen in a Communist country. Communism is a lie, within itself. They say religion is the opiate of the masses. Well, if that is so, then by God, it seems the people like that opiate. Religion is the founding structure of civilization, law, morals, and intellect. Science cannot survive without religion, and religion cannot survive without science. The first government was thought up of due to religion. So do not badmouth religion, as it is what made civilization."

The Grand Assembly condemns The anti-communist statements made by Holy Paradise's leaders. Communism is not a way of life but simply a way the Government is structured and how it affects its citizens daily lives. Communism by definition is simply giving power back to the workers. Democracy, though more widley acclaimed as the worlds #1 government structure, has its flaws as well such as corruption, fixed elections, and even government spending deficits. The Grand Assembly advises The Holy Paradise to choose its words more carefully next time before these blatent and irresponsible comments come back and bite you in the -censored-.

General Blackshadow-President of The Grand Assembly
General Gerat- Vice President of The Grand Assembly
General Buttinik- Chairman
General Haitian- Chairman
General Johnson- Chariman

When you say "definition" that means theory. And its true, in theory, Communism is good. But you can't trust the amount of power it gives to humans. Communism doesn't work in practice.

-President Holtz

On TVs in households across the country:
"This is HPBC News with Bill O' Really."

"Hello, I'm Bill O' Really. Today's top story: President Holtz's anti-Communist speeches today have brought about harsh criticism from other countries. But here, he has received applause for his speeches from the nation's conservative majority. In a poll done by Gullup, 74% of those polled supported President Holtz's anti-Communist stances. 25% disagreed with Holtz's statements, and 1% didn't really give a crap."

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OOC: Good to see you back RPing, HP. :)

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Official Pacitalian Government Statement

Much of what President Holtz has said is true, as communism does not practice what it preaches in most cases. But that is not true for all communist nations. The Pacitalian people and government, allied to Hogsweat and Euroslavia, is of the definite opinion that these two nations are a prime example of the proper way to follow a communist ideology. They allow civil liberties and have true collectivisation policies, while maintaining a solid benevolence in the government ranks. There are no purges. There is no distrust. And most importantly, there is no substantial and overbearing poverty in the populace.

Yes, Pacitalia is a capitalist nation, and yes, we prefer not to look on communism favourably. However, we find that it is a better idea to agree-to-disagree with a communist nation, to use the English colloqualism in this context. We are happy with our current alliances and political strategies with communist nations - in fact, Euroslavia and Hogsweat are two of our strongest and most beloved allies, both inside the government and out.

Therefore, I would hope that Signore Holtz knows the severity of his comments, and although fair and true in many cases, do not apply to every communist nation, as the examples provided prove. This is no way a scorn on Holy Paradise's government or people but more of a mature, concise attempt to neutralise the situation and broaden the understanding of it.

Adrian Copilul-Minune
Senior Deputy Prime Minister

Letter from the office of P.J. Longhorn, Elante City Mayor

President Holtz
Holy Paradise

Your Excellency,
I write this on behalf of the citizens of Elante City, a region of the Magna Cartman Colony that yesterday voted to become a democracy independent of the colony.

We wish to advise that we wholeheartedly agree with your statements and the comments made by dictator Cairo are not reflective of our feelings.

When the semantics of our breakaway are complete, we invite you to visit our great city (and then nation).

Regards,
P.J. Longhorn
Elante City Mayor

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I support you 100%, my friend.

-Generalissimo J.L.

I support you 100%, my friend.

-Generalissimo J.L.


As do I

-Shah Khosru III

OOC: The funniest part is that you can totally tell how far right each of us are by our comments.

From the Office of T.R. Cairo, President of Magna Cartman Colony

I wish to inform those who wish to condemn dictatorships that under no circumstances will we tolerate having your evil capitalist democratic governments forced upon us. Will will resist these with force if needed.

Under no circumstances will our great nation have our tradition of a single person national executive who is elected for life changed without a fight. The people of this nation have lived peaceful stable lives for many years and it is becasue of nations like Holy Paradise that the evil axis in my nation are trying to duplicate.

Again, we will not succum to evil capitalism.

T.R. Cairo
Presidential Castle
Neptune City