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Okay. So I am trying to prepare an army for my new nation of Aliados and I am having trouble figuring out what to do. For those who do not know, Aliados is nations of "The Massive Ethiopians" and "Third Jerusalem". I am wondering what numbers I should use in making my army. How do I divide them? And anything else that I may need know when making this military.

Here is some stats:

Population of The Massive Ethiopians: 1,419,000,000

Population of Third Jerusalem: 1,255,000,000

Population of Aliados: 2,674,000,000

I really need help on military numbers, so can someone please help me.

you should have from 1% to 5% of your population in the millitary

the more you have the worse the ecuiptment will be and training will also be worse

if you need someone else to train them you can do that i.e. me

if you want to know some types of units i can tell you

Make it compulsury to own a gun and then recruit everyone into the army. Sure, it will kill your economy but you will have your fifteen minutes of fame and glory.

you should have from 1% to 5% of your population in the millitary

the more you have the worse the ecuiptment will be and training will also be worse

if you need someone else to train them you can do that i.e. me

if you want to know some types of units i can tell you

Why does the equipment have to be worse. I mean I know that money has to split all ways but I do have pretty good economies.

I am also thinking of having the military split into two sections. Like one for the T.M.E. side and the other for the Third Jerusalem side. Both are under my nation, but train differently. However that might cause some problems down the road.

Also 2% of my population = 53,480,000 which seems like a nightmare. What should I do.

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Yeah. I'm having that problem too :/

The Massive Ethiopians]Why does the equipment have to be worse. I mean I know that money has to split all ways but I do have pretty good economies.

well lets look at china and then the USA. china has a masive millitary but the navy doesnt evin have air craft carriers the USA has a much smaller millitary and more carriers than anyone else im not shour how much of a help this is


I am also thinking of having the military split into two sections. Like one for the T.M.E. side and the other for the Third Jerusalem side. Both are under my nation, but train differently. However that might cause some problems down the road.

i dont see why you cant do that millitarys train solders diferently all the time

Also 2% of my population = 53,480,000 which seems like a nightmare. What should I do.

have a nightmare of a millitary if smaller nations try to invade thay will not be abel to stand up to you or if you invade you can just run right over them (entil the gurilla forces start poping up) also i forgot to mention that you should have logistic personel something like 10 for every combat solder or four for evry combat solder so your total combat solders would be little over 5 million

Your military stats depend on your age and tech type. (Medieval, fantasy, FT, modern) and the amount of funds you put into defense.

It depends if you're going to have a draft or not.

I would suggest you create reserves and different branches.

Right but is there a general idea of how I should divide them up. That is my big problem.

I think I could split my military like this: 2 Army sections, one navy, one air force...but what I want to know how should I split them them up. Like a divisions, plantoons, or what not...what is a general rule for them. Also the same for my navy and air.

Oh and thanks for all the help so far!

I'm doing
Army
Navy
Air Force
Marines

I'll post my military when I finish the numbers/chain of command.

(I'm Modern tech if that helps at all)

I am modern tech too so no worries!

Mandatory gun ownership is not an economic nightmare, in fact Switzerland has been doing that for about 200 years and they're one of the most economically stable countries in RL. The way to do it is have a national militia, like the revolution era americans. Train them starting at 16 and have them "on-call" till 40 and you shouldn't have any issues.

Are you combining two nations you created? Regardless, make certain less than 2.5% of your population is in the military and less than 1% of the population is active duty (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=297064).
The way to do it is have a national militia, like the revolution era americans. Train them starting at 16 and have them "on-call" till 40 and you shouldn't have any issues.The USA actually still has an official militia, but it seems almost no one knows about it. /not very on-topic

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_unit

1%? Bah.

I use 0.7%. And back then 0.2%.

Mandatory gun ownership is not an economic nightmare, in fact Switzerland has been doing that for about 200 years and they're one of the most economically stable countries in RL. The way to do it is have a national militia, like the revolution era americans. Train them starting at 16 and have them "on-call" till 40 and you shouldn't have any issues.

I do not plan on complusory gun ownership. I am combining two nations, but in the old forum I did an old history of my region...named Aliados...which consisted of Nellisland, T.M.E. and Third Jerusalem. But is lost and what I am doing is having the region combine together to make Alaidos. I have already started an RP for it. But I want to have a military before I do anything. My idea is split the army into two sections. One from T.M.E. and one from Third Jerusalem.

I am wondering how to split them?

New Zealand had around 9% fighting in WWII
Wow shake in your boots 150,000 people out of 1.6 million.
But also supplyed Britian with unbelievable food resources.
But thats total war.

Infantry Structure
Army:two or more Corps
Corps:Two or more Divisions
Division:3 Brigades
Brigade:Commanded by a Bigadier comprising 2 or more battalions,has full range of equipment.
Battalion:600 is a rough minimum but 750 is good comprises several companies of infantry with ancillary/auxillary companies of administration and heavy weapons(Artillary,Tank Mortar etc)
Company:Commanded by a Major and has at least 100 men from 3 Platoons.
Platoon:Commanded by a Lieutenant,each Paltoon has 30 or more men from 3 sections
Section:Commanded by a Corporal,with each section comprising 10 men

The Regiment is basically a Battalion with Pomp and Splendor and can range from the 'Brave 600' to around 1200 it can be comprised of more than 1 Battalion up to 3(???)

Hope that helps!

Thank you. I am going to try and put it together.

Thank you. I am going to try and put it together.
If you ever need more useless info just TG me or anyone else! :p

The Regiment is basically a Battalion with Pomp and Splendor and can range from the 'Brave 600' to around 1200 it can be comprised of more than 1 Battalion up to 3(???)The link I posted (that no one seems to have noticed...) says three or four.

Edit: Here are some links I've posted before:
http://www.awm.gov.au/atwar/structu...f_structure.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squadron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_(air_force_unit)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_(air_force_unit)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_(military_unit)

The link I posted (that no one seems to have noticed...) says three or four.

Half your stuff isnt working completly.
Australia tended to have 1000 men Battalions at Gallipoli(NZ too)but if you have the 4 regiments(4000) at that size your doing it at the expense of the Brigade!

Which is fine The Germans in WWII ignored the Brigade and had their supped up Regiments.

The Brigade is gennerally the smallest unit you can have with the full complement of Arms.

thanks for confirming my belief of the 25 craft Squadron. ;)

Half your stuff isnt working completly.Oh, thanks...The right parentheses were left out of the url tags. I fixed them.
Australia tended to have 1000 men Battalions at Gallipoli(NZ too)but if you have the 4 regiments(4000) at that size your doing it at the expense of the Brigade!

Which is fine The Germans in WWII ignored the Brigade and had their supped up Regiments.Yeah, different nations, the same nation at different times, or even just different types of infantry (http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/) for the same nation at the same time can have really different unit sizes...