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The Brink of Civil War

United Sociologists
26-03-2005, 07:25
This tape arrived in the mail of many world leaders from Jon Cardin, Chief Regent in the United Sociologists Executive Council.

*Begin Tape*

Cable News Correspondent Tom Tsugota Reporting from the De-Militarized Zone at the eastern border of United Sociologists:

"Tensions continue to rise in the small region of the world known as the "Leftists are Right Coalition". Two months ago, a province in the borders of the Democratic Republic of United Sociologists seceeded from the Exective Council and withdrew its members from the DRUS Parliament. The province declared it's independence from the "increasingly communistic tendencies" of the DRUS. The small province with a population of only 8 million members now calls itself "The Holy Empire of Neocon-desention."

Though the DRUS has not formally recognized the secession or independence of the new country, they have, to this point not done anything to reacquire the province and bring its' population back under the direct rule of the DRUS govenrment.

Early on, it appeared as if the DRUS would allow Neocon-desention to form it's own empire. Parlimentary Majority Leader Alvin Aquinas said "Personally, I'm happy to see them go. The people of this so-called "nation" have always stood in the way of progress and the betterment of our society. They represent the minority of the ideals held dear to DRUS and its' citizens."

Chief Regent Jon Cardin of the Executive Council, though visibly saddened of such civil disturbance happening while he is head of the executive branch, echoed a similar sense of relief, despite his frustration: "We love our country and want everyone to get along, but there has always been a small but stern undercurrent of resistance to the policies of our government. We have done our best to provide the best education and civil equality to all of our citizens, but some people have always resisted."

Some citizens were not so willing to accept the passive stance of the government. Ellen Geoffery, world famous political and civil rights activist and former DRUS Executive Council member was infuriated when she heard of the secession: "This is exactly what we have tried to prevent for years. The exorbitantly wealthy and non-native DRUS citizens have duped the masses in this province and have tricked them into believeing this socio-economic 'survival of the fittest' and right-wing moralistic bull**** that we have disproved time and time again. If we give them up now then they will only continue to use their resources to convert more and more people to their side and soon our beloved nation will be no more."

Noted Libertarian author Alan Weisel disagreed: "Who are we to force our way of life on someone else? If they choose to disagree, then so be it. They have all the rights to form their own nation, just like we did so long ago. Now I don't like some of the policies that DRUS has adopted, but this nation was founded on the idea that all ideologies are worthy or respect, and while the government has held up their end of the bargain, the social mind has shifted dramatically progressive. These neoconservatives feel ostracized in the social atmosphere of DRUS. Though their ideas are respected by the government, the fact that we are a democracy will always prevent any of their beliefs from becoming law due to the socially progressive mindset of the vast majority of our people. I think that they thought secession was probably their last option.""

*End Tape*

The following letter was enclosed as well:

Fellow world leaders:

As you can see, we are in a very precarious position, but the situation has only grown more strenuous. In the last 3 months since this report was made, tensions have only grown. Neocon-desention's policies of unregulated business have begun to affect our nation in very direct ways. They have begun preparations to strip-mine inside of one of our country's lush rainforests located in their province, which will utterly destroy the forest and its native wildlife. Their pollution laws are virtually non-existant, and birth defects in neighborhoods on the borders have risen dramatically as well, and these are only a couple of the short term problems. We would not even begin to speculate on the long term effects of their envitonmental practices on our nation.

Furthermore, they have shifted from a proposed democracy to a theocratic autocracy, and have begun punishing followers of other religions. Our intelligence agencies have turned up evidence of many civil and political rights violations, but no concrete proof.

The pressure has risen on my government to reclaim the province calling itself Neocon-desention, however all of our top ethical advisors share the opinion that it would be a violation try to reclaim the nation because its members felt oppressed in our country. Furthermore, the new government has made it abundantly clear that they will not rejoin our country peacefully and there will be no negotiations to return. They have begun a massive military buildup on the border.

Our nation has never engaged in conflict and, while we believe that we could easily reacquire the rogue state, it would be very bloody and losses would be very high on both sides. Our people are not anti-war, but many would rather let the province go than suffer the loss of human life that this war would generate. As far as we can tell, the pro-war and the anti-war stance in the population is split about 50/50.

I am deeply troubled for this incident to have happened under my watch, and troubled by the fact that I could be responsible for our nation's first armed conflict, a problem further exaserbated since this war will be against my own nation's citizens. I am asking the world community for its opinions, as my advisors are deadlocked and the parliament has remanded the decision to the Executive Council, saying that it will back my decision 100%.

Any insight you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time,

Jon Cardin
Chief Regent, Executive Council
Democratic Republic of United Sociologists

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Hrstrovokia
26-03-2005, 07:49
Hrstrovokian response -

"You of course have my sympathies Mr. Cardin, you are in an inenviable position. However, as Chief Regent, you know your are the one who has to make the decisions, however much the consequences are disliked. The harmful exploitation of natural resources, military enlargement and uncooperative stance of Neocon-desention's Government will lead to their own problems and ultimately their own demise.

I advise that the United Sociologists procede with caution, and make plans to counter military expansionism by Necon-desention. It is your duty to protect those people who wish to remain represented by the DRUS parliament and remain party to United Sociologists rights and institutions. If you threathened by them, you have a legitimate mandate to defend yourselves and your people. Until then, we agree in the view that the sovereignty and political integrity of a people who wish to excercise their voice of dissent and form their own political entities for self-government for self-determination should not be infringed upon. Of course, you are only bound to this if you officially recognise the Necon-desention state..."

Deputy Prime Minister Hakka Gormavski
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia
United Sociologists
26-03-2005, 08:00
Hrstrovokian response -

Until then, we agree in the view that the sovereignty and political integrity of a people who wish to excercise their voice of dissent and form their own political entities for self-government for self-determination should not be infringed upon. Of course, you are only bound to this if you officially recognise the Necon-desention state..."

Deputy Prime Minister Hakka Gormavski
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia


That is the question, indeed. We are perfectly within our legal bounds to use force against them if we do not recognize Neocon-desention as a nation, which, at this point, we do not. However, there will be severe political backlash in engaging in hostilities against people that we recognize as citizens of our nation.

The population is divided. Half believe we should reclaim the rogue province, and half say we should let them have their "freedom", however many believe that it is not freedom they desire, but unchecked power over the people in their nation and some even suggest that they will eventually seek to overthrow the government of the Democratic Republic of United Sociologists, something that I cannot idly stand by and allow to occur. Their population, military, and resources are still relatively small compared to ours, and if they actually do seek the destruction of our government, now would be the time to act and to crush their resistance before they can pose a true threat to our nation. But, while they do despise our government's policies, we have seen no proof that they actually want to see us destroyed.

I do not know how to ethically persue the situation at this juncture.

Jon Cardin
Chief Regent, Executive Council
Democratic Republic of United Sociologists
Hrstrovokia
26-03-2005, 09:00
"Your dedication to moral ethics will be of no relief if present events continue to spiral out of hand and something is not done to assert your authority here. This crisis has the possibility of causing dissent and division in the Democratic Republic. I believe that you have full powers to reintegrate Neocon-dissention, which broke away without any formal notification to the DRUS parliament or by the standard legal framework provided by for such an event. The disarmament of security forces in Neocon-dissention should be your primary concern, but take timid steps and try not to provoke uproar and fury. That might cause an 'incident' But do not fret, this is your backyard and your jurisdiction, the international community has no right to pry."

Deputy Prime Minister Hakka Gormavski
Federal Socialist Republic of Hrstrovokia
Jagada
26-03-2005, 09:42
Interesting events to say the leasts. It appears to me that Necon-desention has a radically different view on the world than you do. Those who live under their reign obviously do not seek to return to DRUS.

Do not get me wrong, the Commonwealth is highly against revolts and rogue provinces. Though this rebellion should be taken with great caution on the part of your government. You have people who, while a minority, are obviously displeased with your government and as you stated threw your own democratic system they will never be happy due that in fact, they are a minority. Prehaps it is best to let the rogue province go, they will obviously never be pleased under DRUS control.

I am curious though, what religion do the leader of Necon-desention follow. You stated they were turning into a Theocracy of sorts, yet you never stated what kind of theocracy.
United Sociologists
26-03-2005, 10:15
Under different circumstances, we would have let this secession go unhindered. However, there are several facets of this situation that we cannot allow to continue. 1)Neocon-desention's environmental policies are already causing severe problems and they have only been outside our jurisdiction for five months. We fear that they could cause severe health problems to our nations citizens as well as have permanent effects on the world at large. 2) We cannot tolerate civil and human rights abuses and would involve ourselves in any conflict that would right such injustices. While we cannot prove that thye are occuring, the reports and evidence is too much to ignore. 3) They are incredibly hostile to our government's policies and, while they do not pose an immediate threat, they continue to build up their military and we feel that, though they continue to iterate that they will never seek hostilities against our nation (yet continue to reinforce their position that they will defend themselves against "outside agressors" if necessary), its easy to see why my military and political advisors are very uneasy about letting them go and not stopping them now while we can.

Re: what religion are they?
They are an amalgam of right wing conservative Christians and have formed a Department of Religious affairs which, so far as we can tell, serves two purposes: 1) perpetuation of the conservative Christian agenda and 2) identifying sects considered to challenge the moral authority of the government to be targets of political and, if necessary, police actions.

Again, none of this can be proven and we are operating on reports from citizens that have escaped into DRUS and our intelligence services continued observation (obviously we cannot go into detail for fear of compromising the cover and/or endangering the lives of our operatives in the field).

Jon Cardin
Chief Regent, Executive Council
Democratic Republic of United Sociologists
Jagada
26-03-2005, 10:30
What kind of civil rights violations are occuring? Are we talking violations such as banning of gay marriages, or failure to recieve a trail?

On the subject of enviromental issues, perhaps you could speak with Necon-desentions about prehaps restraining themselves and putting up laws which will at least protect your nation to an extent (as it is impossible for you to be completely unaffected).

On top of which, perahps it is better said that this government of Necon-desentions religious agenda is their own political agenda and should not reflect upon the actual religion itself. They will ensure that Christians within your own nation are not singled out by you population for the actions of their fellow believers in the rogue province.