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Which NS country is the worst human rights abuser?

Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:04
Who is it?

(Poll coming up!!)
Guffingford
25-03-2005, 17:08
None of the above. If I had to pick one it'd be AMF. On the other hand why am I excluded?
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:09
None of the above. If I had to pick one it'd be AMF. On the other hand why am I excluded?

To be honest, I don't know much about your nation, other than that you're among NS's best RPers.
MassPwnage
25-03-2005, 17:10
Hmm...
I would say The Parthians, or The Merchant Guilds.
Guffingford
25-03-2005, 17:12
To be honest, I don't know much about your nation, other than that you're among NS's best RPers.Why thank you :)
Bonstock
25-03-2005, 17:12
The scene shows an officer of the Bonstocknian Secret Services, wearing a black suit and dark sunglasses. Standing on a city street, he says, "Of course, as everybody knows, the Federal Republic of Bonstock is the best nation for human rights! We'll never be on this list!"

Another man walks on to the scene. Handing out little flyers, he says to the passing crowd, "Jesus loves you all! Open your hearts to god!"

The agent says, "Excuse me for a moment." He grabs the man, and leaves the scene. Two gunshots ring out. The agent walks back. "Again, we're the best nation for human rights!"
Dumpsterdam
25-03-2005, 17:12
Guffingford, no doubt about that one...
Warta Endor
25-03-2005, 17:13
The scene shows an officer of the Bonstocknian Secret Services, wearing a black suit and dark sunglasses. Standing on a city street, he says, "Of course, as everybody knows, the Federal Republic of Bonstock is the best nation for human rights! We'll never be on this list!"

Another man walks on to the scene. Handing out little flyers, he says to the passing crowd, "Jesus loves you all! Open your hearts to god!"

The agent says, "Excuse me for a moment." He grabs the man, and leaves the scene. Two gunshots ring out. The agent walks back. "Again, we're the best nation for human rights!"

I vote Bonstock :P
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:14
Thanks, New Endenia! :D
Momanguise
25-03-2005, 17:23
Guffingford...
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:23
I am shocked at the meager number of votes I am receiving. Perhaps I had better work harder to stamp out civil rights.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 17:24
I voted for the Parthians because he's the only one I've seen so far who kills people weekly...I'm sure others do it, I just haven't seen it.
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:24
I voted for the Parthians because he's the only one I've seen so far who kills people weekly...I'm sure others do it, I just haven't seen it.

Then it looks like I'll have to do the same.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Eredron
25-03-2005, 17:34
I tend to ignore the desperate attention seekers who are always starting some thread about killing babies for licking lollipops the wrong way; it's been a while since I've seen a great RP involving on-going, quality posts of human rights abuses. I'd probably vote for AMF, although I've never done more than glance through his RPs.
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 17:36
I tend to ignore the desperate attention seekers who are always starting some thread about killing babies for licking lollipops the wrong way; it's been a while since I've seen a great RP involving on-going, quality posts of human rights abuses. I'd probably vote for AMF, although I've never done more than glance through his RPs.

I don't kill people to get attention. I kill people because it's fun.

-Generalissimo J.L.
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 17:38
I tend to ignore the desperate attention seekers who are always starting some thread about killing babies for licking lollipops the wrong way; it's been a while since I've seen a great RP involving on-going, quality posts of human rights abuses. I'd probably vote for AMF, although I've never done more than glance through his RPs.

They are amusing... in any case, AMF is the self-proclaimed master of genocide..and I believe him..very good choice.
The Parthians
25-03-2005, 18:12
Either Doom or Guffingford, I cannot decide.
Huntarian Alliances
25-03-2005, 18:27
My main nation of Huntaer. It doesn't just deny any rights, but also almost exterminated an entire race of Force Sencitive people known as the Malkir (my Jedi Faction) when the Kirtir(my sith Faction) took over the Huntarian Republic and replaced it as "the Galactic Empire of Huntaer."

Only 20 or so Malkir remain where as the Kirtir number in the thousands.
Praetonia
25-03-2005, 18:47
I think it's very silly how you all seem to compete for the title of "most evil nation" (well not AMF and Caelta, and only to a lesser extent Generic and Borman Empire). In real life nations that do "evil" things always try to deny and cover things up, not make a big fuss over it to show everyone just how "evil" they are.
Basque Spain
25-03-2005, 18:49
Definenitly the worst human rights is in the NS version of Nazi Germany is Coreys Land. For crying out loud he has concentration camps and his leader is named the furuer
The Parthians
25-03-2005, 18:49
My main nation of Huntaer. It doesn't just deny any rights, but also almost exterminated an entire race of Force Sencitive people known as the Malkir (my Jedi Faction) when the Kirtir(my sith Faction) took over the Huntarian Republic and replaced it as "the Galactic Empire of Huntaer."

Only 20 or so Malkir remain where as the Kirtir number in the thousands.

Not really that bad, hell, I've killed Shoobans, Communists, PETA members, etc, etc in numbers over 100,000 and thats just executions. Lets not forget the people in my prisons suffering a living death. Or perhaps how in wartime, I used chemical weapons on civilian towns and slaughtered several million over the last few months.
Basque Spain
25-03-2005, 18:52
Coreys land still beats you all and I think that it is sick that he would make a tribute to the Nazi monsters on NS this is not for Nazis
Communist Brazil
25-03-2005, 18:53
I think it's very silly how you all seem to compete for the title of "most evil nation" (well not AMF and Caelta, and only to a lesser extent Generic and Borman Empire). In real life nations that do "evil" things always try to deny and cover things up, not make a big fuss over it to show everyone just how "evil" they are.
Exactly my sentiment, which is why I voted for AMF, because most of the others, such as The Parthians and Roach-Busters have the "abuse flavor of the week" ala Baskin Robbins, which loses its luster after the fifth genocide.

This isn't meant to be an insult to The Parthians/Roach-Busters/nations implied, but only my observation and sentiment that it seems trivialized because of it prolific and "liberal" use. Interesting choice of words indeed.
Praetonia
25-03-2005, 18:56
It also appears to be done for no apparent reason, or a stupid reason that would probably never happen in real life. Hitler, in his sick, twisted mind, presumably honestly believed that Jews were going to destroy Germany, and didn't just decide to exterminate them "for fun". That, in my opinion, is bad RPing. For that reason I voted "other" because I refuse to be party to silly attention-grabbing RPs, but I would otherwise probably have voted AMF or (if he were on there) Guffingford. Still, RB and Parth can RP however they want, I just dont want to be a part of that kind of RP.
The Parthians
25-03-2005, 19:01
It also appears to be done for no apparent reason, or a stupid reason that would probably never happen in real life. Hitler, in his sick, twisted mind, presumably honestly believed that Jews were going to destroy Germany, and didn't just decide to exterminate them "for fun". That, in my opinion, is bad RPing. For that reason I voted "other" because I refuse to be party to silly attention-grabbing RPs, but I would otherwise probably have voted AMF or (if he were on there) Guffingford. Still, RB and Parth can RP however they want, I just dont want to be a part of that kind of RP.


The Shah orders it for Parthian security. He believes that those who oppose his reign are agents of Ahriman, and thus, heretics and evil who need to be purified. He thinks there is a Communist conspiracy to overthrow his government.
Falcania
25-03-2005, 19:36
Well, to be fair, I do order the extermination of all sufferers of AIDS or HIV by eunuchs, specifically castrated for the purpose. This means that the number of AIDS sufferers in Falcania is almost zero.
Basque Spain
25-03-2005, 19:39
No biggy alot of countries do that
The Yautja Homeworld
25-03-2005, 19:41
I think it's very silly how you all seem to compete for the title of "most evil nation" (well not AMF and Caelta, and only to a lesser extent Generic and Borman Empire). In real life nations that do "evil" things always try to deny and cover things up, not make a big fuss over it to show everyone just how "evil" they are.

This is something I've wondered ever since I first started, back in July last year. I've had a lot of trouble thinking of any RL nations that put up big neon lights, grab loudspeakers and shout "LOOK HOW FRICKIN' EVIL WE ARE, MAN! WE'RE KILLING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON!"
Basque Spain
25-03-2005, 19:44
This is something I've wondered ever since I first started, back in July last year. I've had a lot of trouble thinking of any RL nations that put up big neon lights, grab loudspeakers and shout "LOOK HOW FRICKIN' EVIL WE ARE, MAN! WE'RE KILLING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FOR NO GOOD REASON!"

Your join date says march
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 19:44
But the real world isn't pocketed by massive amounts of 2 billion + nations who all kill massive amounts of their own citizens. Moreover, unlike NS, the RL has a police state, called the United States, as well as Europe, who like to bully the smaller nations, who are the most likely candidates for genocide/murder/political oppression. The ambience of NS advocates the creation of large, powerful, oppresor states and I don't see it as a gimick to gain views... well, it is.. but not entirely.
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 19:45
Your join date says march

Probably resurrected.
The Yautja Homeworld
25-03-2005, 20:04
Your join date says march

This nation is one of many I use to RP with :D
Caelta
25-03-2005, 20:09
Why am I on here? I never RPed anything as Caelta....
Praetonia
25-03-2005, 20:12
Well, to be fair, I do order the extermination of all sufferers of AIDS or HIV by eunuchs, specifically castrated for the purpose. This means that the number of AIDS sufferers in Falcania is almost zero.
I really don't understand people who do this either since AIDS isnt a very contageous disease and can be largely erradicated using cheap drugs and a modicum of education on the subject.
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 20:19
As far as I know AIDS cannot be healed, and the fact remains that there will always be a strain in a country if the policies taken against it are liberal. Quarantine and erradication of the threat has always been the most accurate policy to completel destroy AIDS.
Praetonia
25-03-2005, 20:21
As far as I know AIDS cannot be healed, and the fact remains that there will always be a strain in a country if the policies taken against it are liberal. Quarantine and erradication of the threat has always been the most accurate policy to completel destroy AIDS.
AIDS can be slowed significantly to the point that (in Western countries) suffers can lead almost normal if somewhat shorter lives and it takes very little to teach people to act in such a way as to not contract the disease. That's why the incidence rate is so low in Western countries. On another matter, I don't know how all you "purge zem all" countries survive a week without a revolution. Some of them really are very silly.
Matokogothicka
25-03-2005, 20:28
Coreys land still beats you all and I think that it is sick that he would make a tribute to the Nazi monsters on NS this is not for Nazis
And yet, you seem to forget freedom of speech so easily when it applies to someone you strongly disagree with. I disagree with them too; so what? They still have a right to speak their minds.
Matokogothicka
25-03-2005, 20:30
AIDS can be slowed significantly to the point that (in Western countries) suffers can lead almost normal if somewhat shorter lives and it takes very little to teach people to act in such a way as to not contract the disease. That's why the incidence rate is so low in Western countries. On another matter, I don't know how all you "purge zem all" countries survive a week without a revolution. Some of them really are very silly.

For that matter, I don't see how they manage to have any population left.
The Macabees
25-03-2005, 20:30
AIDS can be slowed significantly to the point that (in Western countries) suffers can lead almost normal if somewhat shorter lives and it takes very little to teach people to act in such a way as to not contract the disease. That's why the incidence rate is so low in Western countries. On another matter, I don't know how all you "purge zem all" countries survive a week without a revolution. Some of them really are very silly.

Well slowing AIDS might not be the agenda of said nations - instead complete destruction of the strand is. However, in California, where I live, AIDS infection is particularly nasty - at least 20,000 infected...either 20,000 or 200,000...either way, that's a huge number..and I think right now it's 200,000.

In any case... they probably bestow very draconian laws on their citizenry and are always on martial law. Rebellions are most likely put down before they even begin. I wouldn't doublt secret murders during the night - Gestapo type stuff.
Kriegorgrad
25-03-2005, 20:36
OoC: I say Chronosia, the Chaos gods are nasty! Guff is evil but he wouldn't be the worst human rights abuser...simply because Chaos use peopel as sacrifices, among other inhumane things.
Basque Spain
25-03-2005, 20:40
And yet, you seem to forget freedom of speech so easily when it applies to someone you strongly disagree with. I disagree with them too; so what? They still have a right to speak their minds.

I was saying that they were the worst human rights abusers
Roach-Busters
25-03-2005, 21:55
I am grateful to have received votes. I thank whoever voted for my nation.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Iuthia
25-03-2005, 22:06
Bah, this all assumes that human rights are universally the same, given that a nation makes it's own laws I wouldn't really concider a nation which permits the ownership of slaves to be breaking any human rights, unless they have actually given humans the rights not to be enslaved in their nation and are breaking their own law intentionally.

Like many things, human rights are relative to the nation which is defining them.
The Real ALM
26-03-2005, 00:56
OOC: Wow....somebody actually voted for me. I guess my reputation is not that small.
Huntaer
26-03-2005, 01:06
Not really that bad, hell, I've killed Shoobans, Communists, PETA members, etc, etc in numbers over 100,000 and thats just executions. Lets not forget the people in my prisons suffering a living death. Or perhaps how in wartime, I used chemical weapons on civilian towns and slaughtered several million over the last few months.

I've also killed people just for failing the emperor. Link to post:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8489353&postcount=16
(I don't even think that is his worst capability form of tourcher.

One of my Kirtir Lords has the ability to destroy an entire planet through the use of the force (ever played KOTOR 2?) just to keep his power growing. I'm planning to use my INR cannon (if I actually do use it) on a Huntarian Alliance system to get a captured spy to talk about where they got more ships from not stealing ships from Huntaer. The weapon will destroy the whole system.
The Yautja Homeworld
26-03-2005, 01:12
Bah, this all assumes that human rights are universally the same, given that a nation makes it's own laws I wouldn't really concider a nation which permits the ownership of slaves to be breaking any human rights, unless they have actually given humans the rights not to be enslaved in their nation and are breaking their own law intentionally.

Like many things, human rights are relative to the nation which is defining them.

Indeed. Also, some FT nations (maybe even odd MT nations, who knows) may be humans at all, and would see no reason to treat them with any level of respect. To the Yautja, humans are nothing more than prey. They are recognised as worthy prey, to be sure, but when all is said and done they are not thought to deserve any more 'rights' than a lion or a dog.
Pacitalia
26-03-2005, 03:24
Other. Because you're all equally terrible ;)
Roach-Busters
26-03-2005, 03:24
Other. Because you're all equally terrible ;)

Thank you, my friend.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Nation of Fortune
26-03-2005, 03:28
I dunno, at NoF were pretty bad

this is evidence (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406100)

But past us, I'd say Roach-Busters
Pacitalia
26-03-2005, 03:29
Thank you, my friend.

-Generalissimo J.L.

OOC: Josh, that was OOC. ;) As is this.
Xenonier
26-03-2005, 03:36
Probably AMF, because I actualy find his characters believeable in what they do, to a level beyond that of most " look! We killed people! Omg we killed people aren't we bad lol??" nations. Plus, the way Amf is portrayed is probably the most effective way of doing things when you are looking at a title like this.
Roach-Busters
26-03-2005, 03:36
I dunno, at NoF were pretty bad

this is evidence (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=406100)

But past us, I'd say Roach-Busters

I am flattered beyond words.

-Generalissimo J.L.
Ratheia
26-03-2005, 04:20
You all do it so well...

Who to picK?

Ah hell, AMF will do.
The Parthians
26-03-2005, 04:30
Sorry I didn't vote for you RB, its because Shoobans don't have human rights to abuse since they aren't human.... so I'm stuck with judging you on the basis of killing commies and a few other groups. Still, I'd put you on the same level as a put myself, below Doom and AMF but about the same as BE and GE.
The Fedral Union
26-03-2005, 05:49
Tag
Eredron
26-03-2005, 06:20
Shouldn't these circlejerk threads be put in one of the other forums? This is not an IC RP or discussion about the policies of nations. Doesn't it belong more in Gameplay or NationStates than in Intl. Incidents?

Same for all the "Who'se the Best RPer!!!!!?!@!?" or "WHO LIKES ME?" threads that were such a fad.
Pacitalia
26-03-2005, 07:14
I am grateful to have received votes. I thank whoever voted for my nation.

-Generalissimo J.L.

Just click the vote total number on the right side, and it will show who voted for you and for others.
Axis Nova
26-03-2005, 08:26
I would have voted Chellis or Kahta or DA, but all 3 are gone :<