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The AerDynamics FJ-19 Shark is undoubtedly the best and most advanced single seat supersonic air superiority fighter jet in Jaghur and possibly the world. It has finally come on the market.

A basic overview:
-Stealth
-the RAM/composite skin absorbs most radar and the rest of the radar is
reflected in different directions with very little intermittently being reflected
back to the transmitter
-Extremely quiet engines with very little or no exhaust
-Flowing, smooth platform shaping as opposed to a sharp, angular design
like the F-117
-Inner Aluminum skeleton surrounded by RAS
-HUD
-Control stick to the side of the pilot and not in the center; allows the pilot the freedom of resting the arm instead of bending to reach the center
-Bird-safe polycarbonate canopy, birds only leave a dent in the canopy and then the canopy reshapes itself
-"Supercruise", the ability to go to supersonic speeds without afterburners
-2D Vectored Thrust
-G-force range: 8 G/-4 G
-Long-range combat radius
-Advanced radar
-Advanced computer/navigation/attack system which reduces the pilot's
workload
-basically all the pilot has to do is flip a few switches, turn a few knobs,
operate the throttle, fly, shoot, and check the instrument readouts
-Carrier and land based
-Internal weapons bay
-High agility and maneuverability

Statistics:
-Engine: Two ENGINeer T803-EE-J19 low-bypass turbofans
-Max Speed: Mach 2.1
-Combat Speed: Mach 1.5
-Service Ceiling: 65,000 feet
-Combat Radius: 900 miles
-Dimensions:
Length: 64 ft
Height: 17 ft
Wingspan: 45 ft
-Armament:
Two 15 mm rotary cannons with 1000 rounds
Room for 6 medium range ATA misssiles OR
4 medium range ATA missiles and 2 long range ATA missiles OR
4 medium range ATA missiles and 2 AS missiles OR
4 medium range ATA missiles and 2 AT missiles

Price tag: 59.5 million USD

Here are some pictures of what the design incorporates:
http://www.fas.org/man/ dod-101/sys/ac/f-22.htm
-those pictures of the F-22 Raptor is largely what the design is based off except for a single tailfin shaped like a parallelogram instead of a trapezoid and other minor changes
-go to the bottom of the page to see the pictures

(OOC: ATA: Air-to-Air, AS: Anti-Ship, AT: Anti-Tank, HUD: Head-Up Display, RAM: Radar absorbent material, RAS: Radar absorbent structure)

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the rotary canons need more ammo, 600 is not much for that kind of weapon, and you probably mean turboJETS not turboFANS (though maybe not, I'd just prefer the jets cuz there faster and generaly better for fighters) and how exactly is stealth achieved? is it angular? is it flowing? is it made of special materials, what kind of heat signature does it have? these are all questions you should ask yourself about this aircraft

I assume combat radius is in miles, not missiles. Also, make it more comprehensive, talk about the technology used.

the rotary canons need more ammo, 600 is not much for that kind of weapon, and you probably mean turboJETS not turboFANS (though maybe not, I'd just prefer the jets cuz there faster and generaly better for fighters) and how exactly is stealth achieved? is it angular? is it flowing? is it made of special materials, what kind of heat signature does it have? these are all questions you should ask yourself about this aircraft

OOC: It's flowing. I always thought of the aircraft as a cross between the F-16 Falcon, the F-14 Tomcat, and the F-22 Raptor. There is such a thing as turbofans if that's what you were asking. But I suppose I'll change it to turbojets, that does sound better. And by the way, if I went a little farther into the stealth technology would you be willing to "buy" some?

I know there are turbofans, but correct me if I'm wrong they're psuedo jets whereas for fighter aircraft its best to have the real thing.

also, I'm quite happy with my own fighters (check out my storefront in my sig) and If I hear coreectly you'll be facing some of my designs being used by an ally of mine (Namely NNS)

My bad, did a quick bit of research to back myself up and found that TurboFans and Turbo Jets are really pretty equal, apparently turbofans are quiter and more efficient but have a little bit of loss in highend speed and are more expensive, but the speed loss is negligible
also, you want a lower combat speed bcuz higher speeds reduce maneuverability which is always a bad thing, a good rule of thumb should be that you can't out maneuver a missile if you're trying to outrun it and you can never outrun a missile ever (means that in moder combat good highspeed is useful to get to and from battles but once your there you should slow down.)
here's a good thread to help with designing aircraft
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=322078

keep up the good work

I know there are turbofans, but correct me if I'm wrong they're psuedo jets whereas for fighter aircraft its best to have the real thing.

IIRC, Turbofans are merely Turbojets with a couple of additional parts. I believe that they are actually more powerful and more efficient than turbojets, delivering greater thrust while at the same time being more feul efficient.

I also believe that it is nearly impossible to make them small enough to be reasonable for a fighter chassis.

On the assumption this is your first try at designing your own fighter aircraft, I'll say "kudos" for a job well done. My advise, find a picture you can use - it will help immensily in "selling" the plane.

Some things to note:

1) Stealth would have to be by RAM coatings and composite construction. There's limited room for shaping in a Mach 2+ design.

2) There are three main jet engine types to choose from:
A. Turbojets: The oldest and least effective. These are the original jet engines, and are louder than turbofans. They also have lower top speed due to a much lower boost provided by afterburning. The last US fighter to use them was the F-4 Phantom II. The main advantages of a turbojet are lower cost, ease of maintenance, and slightly lower vulnerability to foreign objects.
B. High Bypass Turbofans: These are the primary form of aircraft propulsion today. Almost every production aircraft since the 1970s has used them due to their efficiency. They're much quieter and more fuel efficient than turbojets, and thus often cost less in the long run. They also get a greater boost from afterburning, giving higher top speeds. Finally, turbofans are more powerful for their size, so you can get higher speeds with smaller engines and less fuel.
C. Low Bypass Turbofans: These are the new kid on the block, and are what allow modern aircraft to supercruise. They drop some of the benefits of high bypass turbofans, becoming more like turbojets. This means that they have a lower top speed than high bypass turbofans due to lesser gains from afterburning. But, when combined with a proper airframe design, they can allow for impressive cruising at supersonic speeds (high bypass turbofans and turbojets are limited to subsonic cruising), and are still much more powerful and fuel efficient than turbojets.


3) An important thing to note is that with airframe and engine restrictions, the higher the top speed is, the lower the supercruise speed will be. If it's pushing Mach 2.5 as a top speed, it's likely to be cruising closer to Mach 1.2. Shave it to Mach 2.0, and it might supercruise around Mach 1.6 instead.
The only way to push it to a Mach 2 supercruise with a Mach 2.5 top speed is to have grossly oversized engines (a la MiG-25), which will adversely affect maneuverability, range, and payload.

Will someone buy some, at least for testing?

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The empire of Jamum will take 15 that will be picked up by 2 ***** at the nearest airport at **:**pm

They will be delivered. The cost is 892,500,000 USD.

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They will be delivered. The cost is 892,500,000 USD.

money wired

Thank you.

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