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The Commonwealth Guild of Merchants Makes 'Aggressor' Warship Available for Sale


The Commonwealth Guild of Engineers designed and built Aggressor Warship is being offered for sale on the open market by the Commonwealth Guild of Merchants. The Aggressor is multi-role stellar warship with full FTL capabilities and an impressive array of offensive and defensive weaponry.

Each Aggressor is also equipped with an AI Construct that can operate the ship independant of crew, or without crew being present.


Commonwealth Aggressor Warship

Length:1,121 feet
Width:672 feet
Draft:453 feet

Equipment:
2 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
1 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
4 Main ION Particle Cannon Batteries
8 secondary Particle Cannon Batteries
4x 18 Anti-Matter Torpedo Batteries

Hull:
22" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
15 Disruptor Point Defence Batteries
1 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 1.92 billion Commonwealth mil (roughly 1 billion USD)



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OOC:

More information on the Commonwealth: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=342114

MOBAT Attack Drone

The Commonwealth Guild of Engineers has designed the MOBAT Attack Drone as a multi-role point defence/cluster attack weapon. The heavily armed and armoured MOBAT is capable of generating a withering field of fire over a specific area, maximising the economy of firepower at a specific defensive/attack point as needed.

The MOBAT is designed to operate with no crew and is manned by a single AI Construct.

Commonwealth MOBAT Attack Drone

Length:834 feet
Width:829 feet
Draft:492 feet

Equipment:
1 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
1 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
1 Main ION Particle Cannon Batteries
8x 18 Anti-Matter Torpedo Batteries

Hull:
18" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
2 Disruptor Point Defence Batteries
1 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 850 million Commonwealth mil (roughly 300 million USD)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/commonwealthnav/MOBAT/MOBAT4.jpg

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Tasker Tanker/Transport

The Commonwealth Guild of Engineers Tasker transport has been designed as an interstellar tanker/transport. This Transport can carry several hundreds of thousands of tons of equipment or raw materials over vast distances. The Tasker can operate with a crew of 22 and makes perfect sense for military or merchant transport. Small crew and large capacity make it a profitable workhorse.

Length:3000 feet
Width:1000 feet
Draft:982 feet

Equipment:
1 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
1 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
none

Hull:
10" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
1 Disruptor Point Defence Batteries
1 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 950 million Commonwealth mil (roughly 400 million USD)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/commonwealthnav/Tasker/Tasker1.jpg

Commonwealth MALUT Gunship

All weaponry and engine. The MALUT is designed for bringing maximum amount of firepower to bear fast. This small, fast, cheap craft is perfect for an inexpensive patrol vehicle or a massed offensive strike. The MALUT requires only 26 crew and to keep maintenance and price low it has no AI or erroneous systems.

Length:750 feet
Width:367 feet
Draft:125 feet

Equipment:
1 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
1 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
1 Main Ion Particle Cannon Battery
4 Secondary Particle Cannon Batteries
5x18 Anti-Matter Torpedo Batteries

Hull:
21" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
1 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 350 million Commonwealth mil (roughly 100 million USD)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/commonwealthnav/MALUT/MALUT4.jpg

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Commonwealth Supremor Orbital Strike Ship

The Largest of the Guild of Engineers commercially available ship is the impressive Supremor. Armed with a variety of super-heavy weapons that are ideal for pummeling planetary defenses or defensive space stations from a safe range. The Supremor operates with a crew of 1,000 and is capable of carrying 1,500 marines and accompanying equipment and drop craft. The Supremor is easily able to ruin planetary defences from a range of 10,000 miles and then move in to deliver occupying forces. The Supremor also is outfitted with an AI Construct to improve functioning and provide ship control with a disabled or skeleton crew.



Length:4550 feet
Width:3890 feet
Draft:2025 feet

Equipment:
5 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
4 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
1 Razer 1,100ft Particle Accelerator Cannon
6 Main Ion Particle Cannon Batteries
1x18 Anti-Matter Torpedo Batteries
2x15 225 gigaton anti-matter missle batteries

Hull:
48" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
22 Disruptor Point Defence Batteries
2 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 5 billion Commonwealth mil (roughly 2.4 billion USD)

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All sale ships added. Let the buying begin and the buyer beware!

OOC: I'm no expert on FT, but $800 million seems AWFULLY cheap for the Commonwealth Aggressor-class warship. I would say you'd need to increase the price by at least 50 TIMES the amount you're charging. Check out the link to Saugerties Space Works in my signature for an idea of a more reasonable price range for your ships.

OOC: The make and materials in these ships are very 'cut-rate'. The Navigators are an avaricious race that don't care about quality or safety. The Merchants Guild priced them to simply make as much profit as possible from a 'fair' product. Think of the Aggressor as the 'Hyundai' of space cruisers.............

Having said that, I would advise that purchasers take that into account when purchasing these ships ;)

Compared to the Dyan-XD and the Voltaug that the engineers build specifically for Commonwealth forces, these are noticeably inferior.

Incidentally the MOBAT and Tasker are the best values, the others will suffer from cut rate production standards when actually used in combat.

OOC: That said, you're still losing a lot of money per ship built even if you use the most slipshod workmanship and slaves to build these. The cost of excavating, refining, welding, assembling, etc. the metals just to build hulls is expensive. I haven't even mentioned the cost of engines, equipment or other costs associated with getting even a low-quality ship into space.

Believe me, I understand the concept behind import versions vs. domestic versions, but you may find a problem with FT players accepting this as is.

OOC: How do you feel the prices are on the others? I think in light of your info I will increase the Aggressor's cost.

Aggressor price adjusted.

OOC: I edited my first post on this thread because I realized that I misswrote in terms of how much more you should charge for the Commonwealth Aggressor. Here (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=1051&hl=) is a range you can look at with the ships in my storefront.

That should give you some idea of what you should charge for your ships.

OOC: Final pricing analysis:

I have decided to keep the prices for Navigator ships as is. There are several reasons for this, which I will now explain.

First, when selling my ships I intend to use the NSEconomy calculator on ThirdGeek. The way it calculates national economies (I am guessing) is based on 2005 world economies and economic models. This basically would make it impossible for ANY NS nation to build, buy, sell or trade ships that are in the 30-40 billion dollar range. While I realize that stellar nations SHOULD have hundreds of times the resources from single terrestrial based nation, there is no tool that I can use to calculate and verify a space faring nations real economic strength and assets.

Second, in using ThirdGeek, it is important that we look at what prices a nation could likely sustain in real dollars as far as 'ships' go. In NS , depending on what type of nation is rp'ed (future tech, current tech, etc.) 'ships' could be airships, naval ships, wooden masted sailing ships, space ships etc. and the only impartial way to decide whether a nation can afford to build,buy or maintain a ship of whatever type is appropriate. A modern tech naval cruiser that costs 1 billion USD on todays market, also costs millions of USD a year to outfit and maintain, since ThirdGeek is calculating for current economies, I felt it best to try and set prices in line with what a modern nation could afford to build and maintain for my ships.

While in the future spacefaring nations may well be spendind 100 billion USD to build and maintain ships, I'm simply not comfortable attempting to extrapolating ThirdGeek's economic model into the future and arbitrarily assigning what I believe a future space faring nation can afford. To make it easier on myself, and on purchasers I will simply use ThirdGeek's economic model as a guide and price accordingly.

Incidentally using ThirdGeek as a guide, Sarzonia with it's 17 trillion USD defence budget would only be able to afford to buy and maintain a space fleet of only about 20 ships at the prices suggested by Al-Imvadjah, not very realistic. With my pricing, a nation can easily use ThirdGeek's calculator and plan a purchasing plan that will give them 100+ ships for their stellar nation, the future equivalent of a navy like that of the United States.

I'm just trying to find some parity with the tools afforded by NS, as well as way where I can sort out what people can afford to buy from me. It could get very sticky to RP every purchase or transaction, so using ThirdGeek's calculator is fair for all.

ThirdGeek's calculator: http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php

OOC: Well that makes sense at least. Again, I'm no FT expert, but that's just what I had heard from the FT people I'd been talking with when I was pondering a jump to FT.

I think if you can explain what you're doing logically and the explanation makes sense, I'll go along with it. Besides, I'd rather have a larger space force than a smaller one. :p

OOc: well, hopefully it makes sense ;)

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Commonwealth Bokrug 'Pocket Carrier'

The Guild of Engineers has seen several examples of other races single pilot fighters. The Engineers do not see the benefit of such fighters but has decided in the interst of providing for the needs of highly variable military systems to build a ship capable of transporting, protecting and deploying these single pilot fighter craft. The Bokrug has been built to serve this purpose. The Bokrug has a crew of 325 and intelligent control Construct and room for up to 125 single fighter craft and pilots.

Length:3550 feet
Width:1590 feet
Draft:915 feet

Equipment:
2 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
3 ATMOS Anti-Matter FTL Drive

Weaponry:
16 Main Ion Particle Cannon Batteries
10x18 Anti-Matter Torpedo Batteries


Hull:
32" of composite viridium steel with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
22 Disruptor Point Defence Batteries
2 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Carrying Capacity: up to 125 single pilot fighters or drone fighters (depending on size and configuration.)

Cost to consumer: 6.8 billion Commonwealth mil (roughly 2.4 billion USD)

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Mostar Mining Construct

The Mostar Mining Construct was recently developed by the Guild of Engineers to allow asteroid mining or surface mining in harsh atmospheric conditions. The Mostar requires no no crew and is programmed to operate independantly for weeks at a time. The Guild of Merchants has also designed the Mostar so that four of them, and several loads of ore, can be carried in a single Tasker Transport, giving them unlimited range and allowing for a manned command station.

Length:500 feet
Width:500 feet
Draft:650 feet

Equipment:
1 VOL Anti-Matter Power Plants
1 VERGA Ion Drive

Weaponry:
none

Mining Equipment:
1 Plasma Cutter
1 Crusher/Drill
2 Control Claws
1 Ore Bay capable of displacing 100,000 tons of ore

Hull:
10" of composite ceramic alloy with ceramic alloy frame

Defensive Equipment:
1 Disruption Field Generator, capable of dispersing energy weapon attacks

Cost to consumer: 450 million Commonwealth mil (roughly 225 million USD)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/commonwealthnav/Mostar/mostar-1.jpg

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