NationStates Jolt Archive

Groups Not Assigned To Fleets
1st Rapid Assault Expeditionary Force
Admiral James Clark
4 Crocodile-class LCS
2 Lord-class LHD
4 Ungforth-class LPD
2 Rapier-class CVQ
Bastion-class BBGN
2 Charter-class BBGN
4 Duchy-class CAG
6 County-class DDG (AD)
6 City-class DDG (GP)
10 Furtive-class FFH
2 Port-class SSGN
4 Forthar-class SSN
4 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE

2nd Rapid Assault Expeditionary Force
Admiral Kevin Madison
4 Crocodile-class LCS
2 Lord-class LHD
4 Ungforth-class LPD
2 Rapier-class CVQ
Bastion-class BBGN
2 Charter-class BBGN
4 Duchy-class CAG
6 County-class DDG (AD)
6 City-class DDG (GP)
10 Furtive-class FFH
2 Port-class SSGN
4 Forthar-class SSN
4 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE

422nd Carrier Group
Admiral Jerry Lewis
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
2 SSN Los Angeles Class Submarines
2 Freedom Class Aircraft Carrier
1 Manstein Class Destroyer
1 Rommel Class Battleship
1 Seydlitz Class Cruiser

24th Carrier group
Admiral Clark Poore
7 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
2 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel Class Amphibious Assult Carrier
5 Clauswitz Class Frigates
5 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
7 Los Angeles Class Attack Submarines

25th Carrier Group
Admiral Richard Walker
2 Crimmond Class Super Carrier
5 Los Angeles Class SSN
5 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
5 Clauswitz Class Frigates
2 Rommel Class Battleships
1 Hospital Ship
1 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship

30th Carrier Group
Admiral Jonathan Greer
2 Wasp Class Amphibeous Assult Carrier
2 Rommel Class Battleships
2 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
3 Seydlitz Class Cruiser

80th Carrier Group
Admiral Harvard Cheney
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
2 SSN Los Angeles Class Submarines
1 Freedom Class Aircraft Carrier
1 Nimitz Class Assault Carrier
5 Manstein Class Destroyer
5 Rommel Class Battleship
5 Seydlitz Class Cruiser

53rd Carrier Group
Admiral Bob Thorne
7 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
2 EM-150 Dolphin/Piotr Hotamel Class Amphibious Assult Carrier
5 Clauswitz Class Frigates
5 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Seydlitz Class Cruisers
7 Los Angeles Class Attack Submarines
2 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine

71st Carrier Group
Admiral Howard Robinson
1 AGF-11 Coranado Flagship (CNS Excelser)
2 Crimmond Class Super Carrier
5 Los Angeles Class SSN
5 Arleigh Burke Class Guided Missile Destroyers
5 Clauswitz Class Frigates
2 Rommel Class Battleships
1 AOE-6 Combat Logistics Ship
8 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine

40th Carrier Group
Admiral Thomas Bruff
2 Wasp Class Amphibeous Assult Carrier
2 Rommel Class Battleships
2 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
3 Seydlitz Class Cruiser
4 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine

60th Carrier Group
Admiral Jimmy Jameson
2 Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 S-3C Vikings, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 2 C2-A Greyhounds, 3 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 EA-6B Prowlers)

2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 AC-150 Tankers, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters)

1 Thunder Child Class Battleship
2 Saviour Class Medical Ships
4 Seawolf Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Astron Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Warspite Class SSBN
4 Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
2 Mackensen Class Battleships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 Norasia Combat Logistic Ships
6 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
4 Defiance Class Light Frigates
4 Spearhead Class
10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft
4 Thatcher Class Destroyer


61st Carrier Group
Admiral Carl Marvin
2 Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 S-3C Vikings, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 2 C2-A Greyhounds, 3 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 EA-6B Prowlers)

2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 AC-150 Tankers, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters)

1 Thunder Child Class Battleship
2 Saviour Class Medical Ships
4 Seawolf Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Astron Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Warspite Class SSBN
4 Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
2 Mackensen Class Battleships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 Norasia Combat Logistic Ships
6 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
4 Defiance Class Light Frigates
4 Spearhead Class
10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft
4 Thatcher Class Destroyer

62nd Carrier Group
Admiral Christopher Matthews
2 Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 S-3C Vikings, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 2 C2-A Greyhounds, 3 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 EA-6B Prowlers)

2 Infusion Class Aircraft Carriers (Aircraft Per Carrier: 35 RF-11, 35 DD-3 Sabertooth, 5 E2-D Hawkeye, 5 AC-150 Tankers, 10 DD-2 Infiniti, 10 ASW Sea King Helicopters)

1 Thunder Child Class Battleship
2 Saviour Class Medical Ships
4 Seawolf Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Astron Class Fast Attack Subs
4 Warspite Class SSBN
4 Meteora Class Guided Missile Cruisers
2 Zumwalt Destroyers
2 Mackensen Class Battleships
8 Visby Class Corvettes
4 Norasia Combat Logistic Ships
6 Valiant Class ASW Frigate
4 Defiance Class Light Frigates
4 Spearhead Class
10 Skjold Class Patrol Craft
4 Thatcher Class Destroyer

Western Battle Fleet
Fleet Admiral John Roberts
1 Flagship Group
Admiral Ronald Roland
1 Credonia-class SDN
1 Ocean-class BBGN
1 Duchy-class CAG
2 Province-class CG
2 County-class DDG (AD)
2 City-class DDG (GP)
4 Furtive-class FFH
2 Forthar-class SSN
1 Smith-class AOE

2 Carrier Battle Groups (CVBG)
Admiral Angela Monroe
Admiral Steven Samuels
2 House-class CVAN
1 Bastion-class BBGN
2 Duchy-class CAG
5 County-class DDG (AD)
5 City-class DDG (GP)
10 Furtive-class FFH
4 Forthar-class SSN
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS

2 Surface Battle Groups (SBG)
Admiral Ralph Lawrence
Admiral Frank Beavers
4 Bastion-class BBGN
2 Duchy-class CAG
4 Province-class CG
6 County-class DDG (AD)
6 City-class DDG (GP)
12 Furtive-class FFH
6 Port-class SSGN
6 Forthar-class SSN
2 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
2 Aylesburgh-class AS

2 Light Strike Groups (LSG)
Admiral Dean Rogers
Admiral Rick Johnson
2 Rapier-class CVQ
2 Duchy-class CAG
4 County-class DDG (AD)
4 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
4 Port-class SSGN
2 Forthar-class SSN
2 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS


2 Expeditionary Force Groups (EFG)
Admiral Trevor Kelly
Admiral Roger Redford
2 Crocodile-class LCS
1 Lord-class LHD
1 Ungforth-class LPD
1 Valley-class LSD
1 Charter-class BBGN, Duchy-class CAG
2 Province-class CG
4 County-class DDG (AD)
4 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
4 Forthar-class SSGN
2 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS


1 Rapid Deployment Force Group (RDFG)
Admiral James Walker
8 Gabin-class AKR
10 General Marsden-class AP
2 Walmsley-class CVL
2 Province-class CG
2 County-class DDG (AD)
2 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
2 Forthar-class SSN
2 Smith-class AOE

Eastern Battle Fleet
Fleet Admiral Gerald Rockport
1 Flagship Group
Admiral Erick Barth
1 Credonia-class SDN
1 Ocean-class BBGN
1 Duchy-class CAG
2 Province-class CG
2 County-class DDG (AD)
2 City-class DDG (GP)
4 Furtive-class FFH
2 Forthar-class SSN
1 Smith-class AOE

2 Carrier Battle Groups (CVBG)
Admiral Darwin Smith
Admiral Roger See
2 House-class CVAN
1 Bastion-class BBGN
2 Duchy-class CAG
5 County-class DDG (AD)
5 City-class DDG (GP)
10 Furtive-class FFH
4 Forthar-class SSN
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS

2 Surface Battle Groups (SBG)
Admiral Madison Kelly
Admiral Kenneth Powell
4 Bastion-class BBGN
2 Duchy-class CAG
4 Province-class CG
6 County-class DDG (AD)
6 City-class DDG (GP)
12 Furtive-class FFH
6 Port-class SSGN
6 Forthar-class SSN
2 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
2 Aylesburgh-class AS

2 Light Strike Groups (LSG)
Admiral Noel Perkins
Admiral Richard Atkinson
2 Rapier-class CVQ
2 Duchy-class CAG
4 County-class DDG (AD)
4 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
4 Port-class SSGN
2 Forthar-class SSN
2 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS

2 Expeditionary Force Groups (EFG)
Admiral Yung Chung
Admiral Norbert Krupa
2 Crocodile-class LCS
1 Lord-class LHD
1 Ungforth-class LPD
1 Valley-class LSD
1 Charter-class BBGN, Duchy-class CAG
2 Province-class CG
4 County-class DDG (AD)
4 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
4 Forthar-class SSGN
2 Stortbek 'B'-class SSF
1 Lem-class AFS
5 Smith-class AOE
1 Aylesburgh-class AS

1 Rapid Deployment Force Group (RDFG)
Admiral Max Kade
8 Gabin-class AKR
10 General Marsden-class AP
2 Walmsley-class CVL
2 Province-class CG
2 County-class DDG (AD)
2 City-class DDG (GP)
8 Furtive-class FFH
2 Forthar-class SSN
2 Smith-class AOE

bump ^__^

Space or surface fleets?

Space or surface fleets?The term 'Surface Battlegroup' doesn't tell you anything, does it? Or the terms 'Eastern Battlegroup' or 'Western Battlegroup'...

Mind you, I find the idea of a monstrous (And boring) listing without even mentioning (Equally boring, but probably useful) basics for the different classes to be somewhat amusing...

In my defence north south east and west are aplied to space as well.
Not widly mind you.

In truth I did't get past the non-bound battle groups befor I just speed scroled to the bottom. ^_^

The term 'Surface Battlegroup' doesn't tell you anything, does it? Or the terms 'Eastern Battlegroup' or 'Western Battlegroup'...

Mind you, I find the idea of a monstrous (And boring) listing without even mentioning (Equally boring, but probably useful) basics for the different classes to be somewhat amusing...


Note, this is just a reference thread so I can keep a close monitor and count on my nation's navy. If you think its a boring list, then dont read it. Simple as that ;)

Ummm... And this is preferable to keeping a tiny .txt on your comp because...?

My allies use it thank you

Well, I think I can saftly say that I do not want to mess with your Navy, lol

Mine's better, I actually named my ships. And plus you don't use any Hogsweatian ships.

Mine's better, I actually named my ships. And plus you don't use any Hogsweatian ships.


Haha... My country focuses mostly on its naval power.... I went through naming over 50 ships before giving up and just putting the ship type.

Haha... My country focuses mostly on its naval power.... I went through naming over 50 ships before giving up and just putting the ship type.OOC: I don't name all my ships because you start getting into ridiculous names once you get past 100 or so. I mean, I was using Eschequer as the name for a battleship for Chrissakes!

OOC: I don't name all my ships because you start getting into ridiculous names once you get past 100 or so. I mean, I was using Eschequer as the name for a battleship for Chrissakes!


Lol. Yeah. I just started thinking of common names like the RIS James and stuff like that after a while. So, I'm keeping names only in the Emperor's Private Fleet and the Risban City Defensive Third Fleet. The rest, I just list the stats.

Lol. Yeah. I just started thinking of common names like the RIS James and stuff like that after a while. So, I'm keeping names only in the Emperor's Private Fleet and the Risban City Defensive Third Fleet. The rest, I just list the stats.

Hence the reason I only name Carriers, Cruises/Battleships (though I have none of the latter), and ships I use a lot (Like the LHD-1 Assault Ship, The Poldi'sk). Anthing else just becomes nasty.

bump

Be quiet Hogsweat, one ARSB's Torrent Class Arsenal Ships could destroy most of one of your Fleet's without too much effort, numerous of which actually serve in my own Navy. I recall, during the Klatchian Invasion of Neo Tyr, destroying at least one, maybe more, of your 'oh-so good' ships.

Naming your ships is ok though, until you get to the 900th and you suddenly run out of inspiration!

Hm, that's bullshit, because the Neo Tyr conflict was a conflict were I did NOT use homegrown ships, I used the most recent Soviet innovations. Hirgizstan if you fought me in a naval conflict now I am most sure that the results would be FAR different.

And ONE ship destroying one of my fleets? ROFLMAO

-tagged-

now, now boys..no need to fight and bicker

Hogsweat, read the specs before you laugh, type ARSB Torrent Class into the search engine and i'm sure you'll find what your looking for. A whole fleet? You obviously haven't been introduced to civilised 'off the cuff' remarks, i suggest you look into it otherwise, you got problems.
Anyway, your quite a small nation so i won't press the issue any further, picking on children, i find, is foolish.

Yeah, so i won't continue to pick on you any longer, as i have a full 400 million more citizens than you do. [therefore bigger]

Hogsweat, read the specs before you laugh, type ARSB Torrent Class into the search engine and i'm sure you'll find what your looking for. A whole fleet? You obviously haven't been introduced to civilised 'off the cuff' remarks, i suggest you look into it otherwise, you got problems.
Anyway, your quite a small nation so i won't press the issue any further, picking on children, i find, is foolish.
[OOC: Not only is he a bigger nation than you in population, but his military budget is bigger than yours, he has several times as many posts and is generally a much wider known and respected player. You sir, for all your talk of understanding such civilised and intellectual modes of speech as those you have clearly demonstrated in that equisite last post of yours, clearly let yourself down by seemingly lacking the ability to capitalise the letter "I" when used on its own and having to resort to childish comments to press your point.

Goodday.]

OOC: Lol, cheers. I don't dignify idiocy with any amount of my time. Any fool who knows me for more than 5 minutes and has RP'd with me will know better than you two. Your the kind of person who gets a kick out of bullying noobs and making fun of people whose first language is not english. I'm sure you have typed a post in a hurry, and got more than one thing wrong.
My government, as you will see via the NS:Wiki link is isolationist because i don't have a big mouth and i don't brag 24-7, nor do i wish to be involved in anything i am not 100% interested in. I also do not believe in arguing with noobs and making meaningless posts.
Some people who started this game after me have posts in the thousands, i choose what and where i post carefully.

(Also, if you would have done some 'background' checks you would realise my population doesn't just exceed but eclipses Hogsweats and yours. The pleasure of being a Commonwealth...).

Why, also, did you feel the need to back someone up? This is what i would call 'sabre rattling' and it seems strange to back someone up so vehemently and assuredly like that.

OOC: Lol, cheers. I don't dignify idiocy with any amount of my time...

[snip]

OoC: Bottom line is, you can't own Hogsweat's fleets that easily. I personally disagree with the naming of each ship as it seriously restrains you on what names you can use for RP's and certain names can suit certain moods.

But then again, he can't own yours just as easily, so it goes both ways.

"War, It's Fantastic" - Great quote there!

"War, It's Fantastic" - Great quote there!

OOC: its from Hotshots part deux isnt it?

OOC: its from Hotshots part deux isnt it?

OoC: The very same, very funny film that, ridiculous but very funny.

OOC: You know your the first person to get that right IH, i always get people going 'I've heard that somwhere...', your the first one to get it, lol.

I agree with Kriegorgrad, you make a valid point.

OOC: Lol, cheers. I don't dignify idiocy with any amount of my time. Any fool who knows me for more than 5 minutes and has RP'd with me will know better than you two. Your the kind of person who gets a kick out of bullying noobs and making fun of people whose first language is not english. I'm sure you have typed a post in a hurry, and got more than one thing wrong.
Oh of course... the thing is, I don't type posts in a hurry whilst insulting someone for their apparent lack of intelligence in the same breath. If you're going to throw around petty insults then don't be suprised when people react badly to you.
My government, as you will see via the NS:Wiki link is isolationist because i don't have a big mouth and i don't brag 24-7, nor do i wish to be involved in anything i am not 100% interested in. I also do not believe in arguing with noobs and making meaningless posts.

Some people who started this game after me have posts in the thousands, i choose what and where i post carefully.
And nor do I. Indeed, I don't think I've ever seen you RP. Still, you're willing to come into a thread, tell someone to shut up and then insult their navy in a three line post... not entirely meaningful don't you think?

(Also, if you would have done some 'background' checks you would realise my population doesn't just exceed but eclipses Hogsweats and yours. The pleasure of being a Commonwealth...).
You mean you puppet wank to boost your stats? Oh joy!

Why, also, did you feel the need to back someone up? This is what i would call 'sabre rattling' and it seems strange to back someone up so vehemently and assuredly like that.
I feel the need to back someone up because maybe... err... I know them? Maybe... I don't like people randomly insulting people. Maybe I just find people annoying who say things like:

"Anyway, your quite a small nation so i won't press the issue any further, picking on children, i find, is foolish."

Errm... yes. Anyway, bye.

OOC: You know your the first person to get that right IH, i always get people going 'I've heard that somwhere...', your the first one to get it, lol.

I agree with Kriegorgrad, you make a valid point.

OoC: Hey I knew it was from Hot Shots Part Deux as well! And Praetonia - can't we just drop it? There is no point in arguing, I think my post covered it well enough and seeing as Hirg can agree with it, why can't you?

Thanks

OOC: Hey thanks Praetonia, you just proved my point, and your own by the looks of things.

By the way Hogsweat was the first to insult anyone around here, by bad-mouthing Credonia's navy. I stepped in to defend a freind and ally, just as you have. I simply let off a brash remark to let Hogsweat know just because Credonia doesn't have any of his 'oh-so-good' ships does not mean his Navy has any less prowess, and that there are always bigger and better designs out there, no matter how much you think yours is the best. Its life, no matter how good you are at something, there is always someone better, unless of course there is a way to prove your the best, and in the case of Defence Armament's there ain't, as you should probably know from looking at places like the International Mall.

Also 'puppet wanking'? I had four nations on the go at once, i only RP'd with this one, so i though why not amalgamate them all and make this one stronger, improvise, adapt, overcome--not my fault if you get pissed off, after all you could do the same, there are plently of people around who do the same as me, more than you think. People who call it 'puppet wanking' or whatever other profanity you use, are those who don't have the extra resources to call on.

Just because you have 4000 posts or whatever, does not make you 'King Ding', nor does it make you an authority. I started this game quite a while before you, and indeed i actually started before Hogsweat, and from day one i was introduced to guys like you, and your operation hasn't changed, still the same old stuff.

Anyway, I say leave it here, if you are a mature person you will be able to see that this is going round in circles. Also, as a fellow member of the Ottoman Alliance i don't believe that this argument merits our standing in this organisation.

As a note Hirgizstan, you can bring all your puppets into one, but very few people round here nowadays will RP with your population if you do that..Clearly it's an indication that you want to WIN! OOC. anyway as you've said this is going round in circles, so I take my leave from this thread.

OOC: Well I was reading the original post in the thread and I came across this... An interesting navy, though it should be more of a "Carrier Battle Group" rather than a "Division", as division is pretty much used as the name of a type of ground formation only. As well, I think it might be better if you increase the number of escorts in these carrier battle groups, and the "Arleigh Burke" (just for reference) is the name of an American guided missile destroyer in RL.

Also 'puppet wanking'? I had four nations on the go at once, i only RP'd with this one, so i though why not amalgamate them all and make this one stronger, improvise, adapt, overcome--not my fault if you get pissed off, after all you could do the same, there are plently of people around who do the same as me, more than you think. People who call it 'puppet wanking' or whatever other profanity you use, are those who don't have the extra resources to call on.

Doing so is still using your puppet nations for your own advantage, where you are just combining all the stats of your puppets and your main nation into one, thus very unfairly making your nation much more powerful at a very large scale than other nations. Such act, while practiced by some others, is highly frowned upon by most players in NS (obviously I don't speak for them, but this is my observation in almost 2 years). Just because someone godmodes and sends 100 million troops to invade a nation doesn't mean that you should too.

If you'd like a bigger population (for some particular reason), wait it out. Patience is the key.

OOC: Well I was reading the original post in the thread and I came across this... An interesting navy, though it should be more of a "Carrier Battle Group" rather than a "Division", as division is pretty much used as the name of a type of ground formation only. As well, I think it might be better if you increase the number of escorts in these carrier battle groups, and the "Arleigh Burke" (just for reference) is the name of an American guided missile destroyer in RL.

OOC: Might wanna tell Isselmere that. The 2 main battle fleets were bought from him (in the same naval grouping as shown..no modifications were made to it). Thanks for the info though.

OOC: Might wanna tell Isselmere that. The 2 main battle fleets were bought from him (in the same naval grouping as shown..no modifications were made to it). Thanks for the info though.
OOC: Well, I was speaking about the "Carrier Divisions", not really Isselmere's organization. On a higher level however, you might also want to have larger fleets (each with a certain number of battle groups and battle fleets), each commanded by an Admiral or Fleet Admiral.

OOC: Oh, whoops. Lol, i didnt catch that. Yea i know bout the A.B's. Dont ask me why i listed them as a submarine. I'll fix that right away (wow..that means thats been listed like that for 2 years).

Thanks for pointing that out

OOC: I'm aware puppet wanking is frowned upon, but i'm isolationist and i don't pander to peer pressure. I also do not exaggerate my military numbers, in fact you could have the same force numbers i have with a lesser population than any one of my colonies. I use the puppets in this way because i hated the idea of running two or three countries differently, so why bother, i just brought them all together.

Also, i have never spoken of my population, the only place its displayed is NS:Wiki and its usually not up to date, as you can see here i don't mention it, other than it was larger. I'm not a blow-hard and i don't feel the need to sabre rattle.

I would never dream of sending 100 Million troops anywhere, that is downright stupid no matter what size your nation is. Believe it or not but i RP'd 'The War on Sino' with ARSB and it was either Sino or Belem that tried to land 100 Million troops somewhere, this was from a supposedly 'experienced' player. I have never done that, and don't plan to.

In RP's i don't brag about the size of my population, and i never will. The most recent non-private RP i was involved in was with the Klatch in Neo Tyr, Hogsweat was there, i'll post a link below to justify what i have said.

Link:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7431029#post7431029

OOC: I'm aware puppet wanking is frowned upon, but i'm isolationist and i don't pander to peer pressure. I also do not exaggerate my military numbers, in fact you could have the same force numbers i have with a lesser population than any one of my colonies. I use the puppets in this way because i hated the idea of running two or three countries differently, so why bother, i just brought them all together.

Also, i have never spoken of my population, the only place its displayed is NS:Wiki and its usually not up to date, as you can see here i don't mention it, other than it was larger. I'm not a blow-hard and i don't feel the need to sabre rattle.

I would never dream of sending 100 Million troops anywhere, that is downright stupid no matter what size your nation is. Believe it or not but i RP'd 'The War on Sino' with ARSB and it was either Sino or Belem that tried to land 100 Million troops somewhere, this was from a supposedly 'experienced' player. I have never done that, and don't plan to.

In RP's i don't brag about the size of my population, and i never will. The most recent non-private RP i was involved in was with the Klatch in Neo Tyr, Hogsweat was there, i'll post a link below to justify what i have said.

Link:

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=7431029#post7431029
Mellow out, people. You want to argue, do it on an OOC thread, or in general, not someone's reference thread.

OOC: Oh, whoops. Lol, i didnt catch that. Yea i know bout the A.B's. Dont ask me why i listed them as a submarine. I'll fix that right away (wow..that means thats been listed like that for 2 years).

Thanks for pointing that out
OOC: If that's the case (2 years!?), then you might want a more "unified" organization, where each group has the same amount of surface escorts and submarines as the other, in addition to same class of ships. It'll be not only easier to organize and rememer, but also easier to sort out after a military conflict, where you would lose a number of those vessels. On top of that, since they are so old, you might want to retire some of those as well, as ships tends to age over a period of time (not mention being obsolete, and that's a fact with RL ships). Isselmere's storefront, from what I've seen, offers a great selection of vessels along with packages.

OOC: If that's the case (2 years!?), then you might want a more "unified" organization, where each group has the same amount of surface escorts and submarines as the other, in addition to same class of ships. It'll be not only easier to organize and rememer, but also easier to sort out after a military conflict, where you would lose a number of those vessels. On top of that, since they are so old, you might want to retire some of those as well, as ships tends to age over a period of time (not mention being obsolete, and that's a fact with RL ships). Isselmere's storefront, from what I've seen, offers a great selection of vessels along with packages.


OOC: My 2 main fleets are from Isselmere lol, but yea I see what your saying. My original Carrier Groups should be retired. Ive used them so many times the number is ungodly.