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The General's Dream (OOC thread)

Sino
13-03-2005, 07:56
Like I said before, bitch, moan, piss and expel all your OOC crap here. If you're not part of this RP, just Jap off!
Xiaguo
13-03-2005, 08:13
Tard Tard Tard Tard, TAG.
Sino
13-03-2005, 08:20
Feel free to spam here too. You need to let all that anger out, son.
North Yaman
13-03-2005, 18:42
"OOC 2: Yeh and his red bandit rebels are illegitimate. You separatists have no right to call us 'invaders' while the official and legal regime of a nation sweep all your sorry asses to hell.
OOC 3: If Xiaguo is so smart, why did three civil wars and revolts erupt up there over the coronation of some stupid emporer? I know that power is addictive, if you are truly all for the people, why not resign?
OOC 4: At least the Chinese under the Military Junta ain't gonna worry about a revolution or famine!
OOC 5: Out off your uncontrolled rage at the Japs do you see every Chinese person as a Jap. Were the KMT Japs? Was Mao a Jap? Am I a Jap to you? F*ckin' Taiwan separatist tards will call it 'invasion' someday, when the PLA goes over to hang that Chen Shui Bien's separatist ass. F*ckin' separatists were funded (and are unofficially supported) by the Japs (who hate to see strong, unified China).
OOC 6: "Jap! Nip! Jap!" Whether you call 'em Japs or Nips, you've just started a new expletive- "Jap off, commie!" (I'm a little tired of saying "f*ck" now.)"

-Sino out of character comments

Okay...wow. Your usual racist, bigoted ignorance has just gotten a little more intense. First, and very much foremost, STOP with the racist slurs! No one wants you hear you rant on about 'Japs' or 'Nips' or any other name you can think of to marginalize and de-humanize an entire ethnic population. I know Japanese people...I know Chinese people too...and I understand the deep enmity that exists between the groups, however this is no excuse. We don't need that sort of negative shit in AMW. If you want to have a racist population...fine...its your nation. But keep it off the OOC man.

Now, what else? Yes, of course...Northern China. I was under the impression we started AMW to avoid godmodding and future tech, as well as buildinteresting rp's. Xiaguo has claimed his nation, you've claimed yours. The entire history of AMW earth is different from yours...Why would Xiaguo even be claimed by Sino? Were the five Kingdoms ever united in AMW, or has the 'China' you imagine never really existed.

Also...the Chinese under the military Junta must have some bad things going for them. They live in a military dictatorship that has announced, in the past, mass slaughterings of political groups...most of the nations GDP goes to the aquisition of military hardware, correct? Lastly, due to Sino's aggressive behaviour, there probably isn't as much international investment in Sino as there is in RL China.

Please Sino, understand that AMW is not RL and you only make yourself look bad when you start in with the insults and bigotry.
Sino
13-03-2005, 21:27
If this ain't AMW, then there wouldn't be Putin. It was Xiaguo who called me a "Jap" and my actions "Japanese invasion".

Man, sometimes even I need to go out off character, even I need to get out off this chicken sh*t costume! Now I know how Generalissimo Chiang felt when he fought the Chicoms.
Sino
13-03-2005, 21:46
All you folks ever think about is Sino being a China demonically possessed by Nazi Germany. Xiaguo has an anti-Semitic general, not me.

Why don't y'all sinophobes, unplug your PCs and treat yourselves to a big bowl of brown!
Xiaguo
14-03-2005, 05:51
Anti-Semetic? It is a characteristic of the people I use. Anti-Semetic is no different than Anti-Communist.

Who is David Sassoon? Who sold millitary weapons to the Seperatist Taiwanese? hey are all reasons for the character, Lin, which is a die hard Nationalist, and a Physical Anthropologist.


We need a United Nationalist China. Not a Millitary Bullshit region.
Sino
14-03-2005, 06:08
United and nationalist, that's what the Military Junta stands for? When talking fails, it's time for action. Through military action, led by the Junta, Taiwan returned to the Chinese fold, Hualien was reclaimed, Tibet remains a part of China and Xinjiang was defended. What has the Rebel Beijing done besides being a separatist thorn on the backside of China?
Sino
14-03-2005, 07:45
Anti-Semetic? It is a characteristic of the people I use. Anti-Semetic is no different than Anti-Communist.

Chinese people are NOT anti-Semitic. Many of the Chinese in China even admire the the Jewish race for being resilient. Don't confuse your Gen. Lin and the rest of your losers down at those Chinese nationalist daydreamer forums, with real Chinese people. (You create sh*t characters.)

The Chinese actually sympathize the Jews over the Holocaust. both the Jews and the Chinese were massacred in the war. Just because some individual Jew donated to a loser's cause, does that mean the whole Jewish race needs to be wiped out? The Israeli government doesn't give a sh*t about Taiwan. In the war, some Jews have even found work within the Todeskopf (the SS department responsible for carrying out the Final Solution). The shameful acts of some individuals do not represent that race. Or what about some obscure punk rock band from the Mainland that went over to Taiwan to perform a song titled "The Separatist Revolution" then never returned (to face justice), does that make all Chinese bands separatist-sympathizing traitors?

Because the Chinese in WWII have managed to save some Jews that we can now enjoy the pleasures of kevlar vests, J-10s and AWACS. What goes around, comes around, Chinazi! If you so desperately want to justify Hitler's Holocaust, then I'm sure you've enjoyed every moment of the Nanking Massacre.

Why don't you shut the f*ck up and think before you speak/RP? It's not like the Jews were responsible for NanKing! Cocks*ckers like you would have rushed to join the Hitlerjugend if this is Nazi Germany. One of the greatest mysteries of the human race is why is it that a race that practices male circumcision is always the scapegoat?
_Taiwan
14-03-2005, 11:04
Well...this is an OOC thread alright.

Now seriously, is anyone going to continue this "war"? There is an absolutely lack of clarity regarding territories captured, and it seems that the original thread has too become a bitching thread.
Xiaguo
14-03-2005, 16:16
And yet you directly compare my character to ALL Chinese. I see that you sympathize with the Jews, and in turn hate the Whites?

Please don't mix in your personal feelings.
Sino
15-03-2005, 04:14
And yet you directly compare my character to ALL Chinese. I see that you sympathize with the Jews, and in turn hate the Whites?

Please don't mix in your personal feelings.

I don't particularly hate any races, except for viewing some Japanese with contempt, I don't mix personal feelings into anything. Only out off your boyish ignorance and brainwashing (conducted by those online political forum lamers) do you confuse reality with fiction.
Sino
15-03-2005, 04:19
Well...this is an OOC thread alright.

Now seriously, is anyone going to continue this "war"? There is an absolutely lack of clarity regarding territories captured, and it seems that the original thread has too become a bitching thread.

Referring back to the map of the tradition Sino-Xiaguo divide, current areas captured by the South stretchs in an almost straight line from just north of Chengdu to Nanjing. Other lengths of the front have yet to be opened.
Xiaguo
15-03-2005, 16:31
"I don't particularly hate any races, except for viewing some Japanese with contempt, I don't mix personal feelings into anything. Only out off your boyish ignorance and brainwashing (conducted by those online political forum lamers) do you confuse reality with fiction."


You have no need to feel comtempt for the Japanese. Is contempt the word you're searching for? Confuse reality with fiction? I can only see oppression when you mention national unity, because your words are harsh when said, but well meant. However, when you do consider national unity, your idea of national unity is a forced identity using 'military' oppresion.


I will agree to the traditional mapping.
Sino
15-03-2005, 20:52
Why do you always make an ass of yourself? The Tang-Song organization is one reason of failure. It only works in a case of man-to-man warfare. Are you switching back to swords and arrows as well? F*ckin' idealists in the modern day! Flying any upside down is an act of insult. LOL!

Hmm, looks like it'll be Age of Empires II vs. C&C: Generals! LOL
Beth Gellert
15-03-2005, 22:43
Flying a flag upside down can be a distress call, certainly, in some cases. Of course, it doesn't work with our red banner.
Xiaguo
16-03-2005, 02:52
OOC:You dumbshit. The formation that led to the fall of Tang and Song, is called the Mercenary Formation which drained the Tang economy.

We adopted titles and organization, not swords and spears. We are using modern day tactics, not stabbing men with gun butts.

Actually that way mistake, since my flag is a star circled with stars, wouldn't make too much of a difference. LOL, you're an ass for pointing out something wrong anyways. Flying a flag upside down on a pole calls for distress.

In Age of Empires, I have a machine gunning car, with cow launching catapults that explode units around it.
Xiaguo
16-03-2005, 03:12
"Most of the Sinoese military operations begin with a boom, it must be foolish to think that this one is an exception. This came as unexpected to the world as the killing of Gen. Liu's body double in Moscow. Three days after the assassination attempt is over schedule in Chinese eyes. The day has come for armed struggle for a unified China."

Propaganda by the Sinoese? The Xiannese have already made all necessary preparations before such attacks especially when Xiaguo had made the first moves. The Xiannese were prepared for the fake defection, and the assasination.

The Sinoese are not the only ones who have place artillery units at the border. The Xiannese would of have almost the exact figures, especially since you have attacked along the whole border. Either way, your troops are thinned compared to the Central, and Eastern Concentrated Xiannese forces.

Once your artillery fires, Xiannese Computer Assistance programs and equiptment can detect Sinoese artillery locations and with the satelite assistance. Xiannese forces can hold out a counter attack.

more to come..
Lunatic Retard Robots
16-03-2005, 03:20
You guys...why don't you just stop this inane one-sentencing and name calling and actually RP for mabye a couple posts? Its a waste of bandwidth when stuff like that happens.

Of course, Nationstates as a whole is probably just as useless as any of this, but...er...back on topic.

So please, for the sake of making a good read, could you perhaps RP something coherent, mabye develop characters or events, and make it, perhaps, interesting?
Xiaguo
16-03-2005, 03:24
We have to get things clear, or we'll be really fighting each other with words.
Xiaguo
16-03-2005, 03:56
1.
The Xiannese is offering Special Governing rights with now, the most free-regions of course with the occasional government on-looking.

The Xiannese campaign targets minorities, and political groups. "Many Minorities, Many Persperctives, but One Country. Chinese are well aware of their own intentions, especially a major change. Sinoese propaganda does not work the same in Xiaguo, as Xiaguo offers more than just a gun and ammo. Xiaguo, like the current China had insured itself with the policies of Defense, and Unity by the bonding of political parties, and minorities.

The Defensive Nation of Xiaguo was attacked by Sino, giving Xiaguo a better use of propaganda and including support from the people, and the international community.

2.
Xiannese technology would be head on with the SInoese, especially military deals with Russia, Spyr, North Yaman, and its overall process of research and engineering. Xiannese ships would be able to stock itself with Mosquito missiles from the Spyrians since the deal was long before such an attack was carried into SHanghai, within only several hundred miles from Bohai, and with such a close range near the Changjiang. Sinoese ships within the harbour would be the easiest targets, having pushed by both the larger Xiannese Navy, and the outstanding numbers of prepared fengyuns from the Northern Region where it was untouched by the Sinoese faked defections.

3.
The Xiannese have only issued evacuations to Civilians, and thousands of Xiannese troops, which, especially pointing this toward the Shanghai posts, are well trained, equipted, strong morale, good positions, and with the bases in Nanjing, Suzhou, Wuxi, Wuhu, Ma'anshan, and several dozen cities.

Right North of the Changjiang, are dozens of Major Eastern cities,. Most of the Eastern cities near Shanghai, are of Northern origin. The Eastern Coast, which Xiaguo has seen as a vital coastline is well defended.
Sino
16-03-2005, 08:16
1.
The Xiannese is offering Special Governing rights with now, the most free-regions of course with the occasional government on-looking.

The Xiannese campaign targets minorities, and political groups. "Many Minorities, Many Persperctives, but One Country. Chinese are well aware of their own intentions, especially a major change. Sinoese propaganda does not work the same in Xiaguo, as Xiaguo offers more than just a gun and ammo. Xiaguo, like the current China had insured itself with the policies of Defense, and Unity by the bonding of political parties, and minorities.

The Defensive Nation of Xiaguo was attacked by Sino, giving Xiaguo a better use of propaganda and including support from the people, and the international community.

2.
Xiannese technology would be head on with the SInoese, especially military deals with Russia, Spyr, North Yaman, and its overall process of research and engineering. Xiannese ships would be able to stock itself with Mosquito missiles from the Spyrians since the deal was long before such an attack was carried into SHanghai, within only several hundred miles from Bohai, and with such a close range near the Changjiang. Sinoese ships within the harbour would be the easiest targets, having pushed by both the larger Xiannese Navy, and the outstanding numbers of prepared fengyuns from the Northern Region where it was untouched by the Sinoese faked defections.

3.
The Xiannese have only issued evacuations to Civilians, and thousands of Xiannese troops, which, especially pointing this toward the Shanghai posts, are well trained, equipted, strong morale, good positions, and with the bases in Nanjing, Suzhou, Wuxi, Wuhu, Ma'anshan, and several dozen cities.

Right North of the Changjiang, are dozens of Major Eastern cities,. Most of the Eastern cities near Shanghai, are of Northern origin. The Eastern Coast, which Xiaguo has seen as a vital coastline is well defended.

1. Xiaguo does not believe in a united China. It exists as a separatist regime, like Taiwan. As separatist rebels, the legimate government of China have the right to kick their ass (I bet you now feel the opposite towards Taiwan). Due to the deadly assassination attempt, instant suspicions would be formed towards the rebels that hate Liu so much. With the assassin having claimed the lives of others, denounciations towards Xiaguo would fly.

2. Larger? How much larger? Our JH-15s can easily take your fleet of floating bathtubs out. Size does not matter, technology does. We also have a large presence of subs in the area. You fleet can be knocked out easily by NF-7As. Fengyuns are still outdated F-16 types. You can have a fleet the size of a sumo's ass, but your 80s vessels have limited capabilities.

3. Shanghai will not fall easily. We have 100,000 men protecting that city, with five tank brigades and countless SAM sites. Mass relocations will damage morale greatly, think back to the strategic hamlets in 'Nam. You can bitch and moan about how nice your bases are, but I can assure you, it only takes 20 minutes for all bases in Taiwan to be critically damaged by MRBMs. As for the surprise factor of barrages and bombings, there is no chance given the sheer concentrated firepower and range. If the shells don't get you, the stealth bombers will.

4. A willingness to use nuclear weapons on your own people only makes you a coward. If the PLA were cowards, not even bacteria would exist in Taiwan for the next millenium or so.
Sino
16-03-2005, 08:43
UN Category: Corrupt Dictatorship
Civil Rights: Average
Economy: Thriving
Political Freedoms: Rare

The Constitut Socialist Republic of Xiaguo is a massive, economically powerful nation, notable for its compulsory military service. Its compassionate, cynical population of 3.108 billion are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich. In their personal lives, however, citizens are relatively unoppressed; it remains to be seen whether this is because the government genuinely cares about its people, or if it hasn't gotten around to stamping out civil rights yet.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, Law & Order, and Defence. The average income tax rate is 100%. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

Government officials have to morgage their homes to make ends meet, refugees from other nations are flocking to Xiaguo's border, marijuana is legal in the privacy of your own home, and all guns must be registered. Crime -- especially youth-related -- is totally unknown, thanks to the all-pervasive police force and progressive social policies in education and welfare. Xiaguo's national animal is the Red Panda, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Xinhua Bi.

Since when was China a synonym for f*ckup? No private sector, widespread poverty, undemocratic government (contrary to claims) and drugs legalized. It's not my fault that China crumbles like dried turds on NS and in real life. We wouldn't even 'import' the lemonades, they're probably watered down with piss.

All you folks do is calling Sino an oppressive police state. Is the real Singapore an oppressive police state? Having laws that legalizes drugs is not freedom, f*cking your dog is not freedom and having your properties ceased for no reason isn't freedom. At least people in Sino enjoy the protections and strength under the Junta. If Mao f*cked a Qing princess and the little bastard grew up with the Triads, Xiaguo is what you get.
Beth Gellert
16-03-2005, 09:36
Private property isn't a right: it's theft. Having the government legislate what one can and can not put into one's own body is not protection: it's nanny-state oppression. If Sino would relax for one moment out of character, he might realise that most accusations typically hurled at the communist world are going 180 degrees off course.
See, I don't know, maybe you just enjoy the bitching, but this could go back and forth forever.
Are you going to fight, or sit around until someone points out that nobody's trading with you anymore, and there's a wave of desertion in the north and a revolutionary rabble marching up Liu's driveway?



(Heh, sorry, I'm bored and nobody's bleeding, there's something wrong with that.)
Sino
16-03-2005, 20:19
The Sinoese don't desert as the war is winning. Now that we don't trade with Xiaguo, most of our trade is with the Russians, the Taiwanese or the Europeans. Revolutionary rabble or pure cannon fodder? I don't enjoy bitching but the fact is, both Liu and Yeh are dictators, it's just that Yeh lies about democracy and Liu tells the truth about kicking rebel asses.
Spyr
16-03-2005, 22:25
Could you post some source info on the guided cluster bombs you mention? The closest thing I'm aware of are SFWs, and even they dont have the purported accuracy you indicate.
Sino
17-03-2005, 00:09
I'm not having any luck with Global Security (http://www.globalsecurity.org), their USAF weapons database is still pretty much pre GWII. The thing is, in the early stages of that war, only two of them were dropped by B-2s and it wiped out the entire Iraqi tank force. One bomb splitted into 800 or so bomblets; about 1700 Iraqi tanks (all were sent on a massive charge to counterattack the U.S. Army) were destroyed within those two days. The current new Iraqi Army only has 18 tanks.

I forgot the name but the USAF's smartest bomb has a CEP of only 2m. There is also the deployment of guided bomblets for TBM warhead. Are you trying to sell systems to Xiaguo again?
_Taiwan
17-03-2005, 01:58
That would be the Small Diameter Bomb right? 250lb Smart bomb with 50lb of explosive but brilliiant penetration capability.

Are the guided cluster bombs you refer to NATO's "BAT" (Brilliant Anti-Tank) MLRS delivered munition system?
Sino
17-03-2005, 08:31
Whatever's cluster and good against tanks, I've got. To fight a force like the Xiannese, a garden variety of such devices are essential.
Spyr
17-03-2005, 14:00
Well, it does make a difference what you have... the SDB is light, but im not sure 800 of them could be crammed into a cluster munition, and the BAT is a rocket artillery weapon, not an air-launched one. As for the 'two bombs killed all Iraq's tanks', I still cant find anything for what would seem to be a brilliant US military propaganda coup... _Taiwan, as you seem to be most knowledgeable on the subject, could you think of where that data might be found?

Essentialy, Sino, your last statement has all the meaning of me saying 'whatever it takes to kill the Sinoese leadership and transform the populace into socialists, I've got'.

When it comes to armament that will have the effect you claim, at least some sourcing needs to exist.
Beth Gellert
17-03-2005, 18:36
Yeah, erm, I know the idea of precision cluster munitions deploying against tanks is great and all, but I've never heard of them being all that effective even if thousands of tanks were formed up together on a tank park, let alone deployed against an enemy with such weapons available to it. If some wonder weapon does exist with the ability to destroy hundreds of tanks in one go, we need to know about it sharpish so that we can counter it. Anything that destroys the enemy in one go with no negative aspects has to be considered a godmod, otherwise.
Sino
17-03-2005, 20:20
I've been driven to the point of madness trying to find the source on FAS and GS, I've read the article during the first month of GWII. Cluster bombs are still damn effective against tanks. The turret tops always lack armor. Tanks don't exactly travel at great speeds, making them vulnerable to air attacks. Even dumb bombs can take them out, with accurate parabolic motion calculations.

Everyone here is against Sino, no matter what. Y'all hate my nation's strength and even the slightest fictional concept of a strong China is enough to piss off the entire Western world. I don't enjoy being the AMF of the AMW. Why don't you wannabe defense analysts just unplug that beige box called a PC and treat yourselves to big bowls of brown!
Spyr
17-03-2005, 22:13
OOC: ...Meanwhile, let's see some specs... It pays to add in the details.

Couldn't agree with you more.

...though apparently you don't hold to your own opinion.
_Taiwan
18-03-2005, 01:51
The CBU-105?

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bin/client/modele.pl?prod=17817&session=dae.10627252.1111107065.Qjol@cOa9dUAADvFmvU&modele=jdc_1
Beth Gellert
18-03-2005, 06:31
Ah. Taking that into account, one should remember that Iraq had no army to threaten even a stone-age cave full of people, let alone a modern nation. After, "GWI" anyway. That hundreds if not thousands of cruise missiles and thousands or tens of thousands of guided bombs more or less took out the organised defence of a desperately poor nation of 20-odd million people that had spent piss all on defence in over a decade after seeing its military shattered ages ago and making no attempt (no matter what Rumsfeld might tell you) to rebuild it... well, it tells me that applying slightly (maybe twice) stronger measures against a nation inarguably dozens if not hundreds of times better placed to resist will, well, not really bother Xiaguo all that much. Game on.
Xiaguo
18-03-2005, 07:34
*thumbs up*

I've got the time to go on the offensive.

Well, I'll stop posting attacks until Liu returns. I'll just post some ramblings in China for now, jsut for some touch-ups.
Sino
20-03-2005, 05:39
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8468637#post8468637

Some of you punks should read up on that in the mean time if you haven't done that already.
Sino
20-03-2005, 05:42
I am unable to find threads/posts regarding Quinntonian Spyran movements in related to the conflict. Someone said that Quinntonia's redeploying fleets and and that Spyr is plotting to invade Sino through Tibet.

At least we've agreed on the protection of civvies.
Xiaguo
20-03-2005, 06:22
Heil. Go on msn.
Sino
20-03-2005, 07:17
Heil. Go on msn.

My system's too 'Made in China' to do that. Hopefully I'm getting a new PC within the next fortnight.
Xiaguo
20-03-2005, 08:08
Alright. Well, launching my offensive. *Wiggles fingers*
Xiaguo
20-03-2005, 08:12
It's quite hard to get really good stats when Sino and I use the same sinodefense. Luckily, I've found other sites which actually has just as much good information as sino-defense.
Sino
20-03-2005, 08:20
I don't mean specs of real systems. I kept referring to the specs of systems created by YOU. You've got a whole bunch of aircraft that we need to check out (you've mentioned that they are comparable to F-16s, so we shall deal with them in that fashion). If you want us to compare them an RL system, then tell us. And please get the names right, I couldn't find sh*t on A-30/50s until you mentioned that they were S-300 PMU-Is.
Xiaguo
20-03-2005, 08:37
Yeah, I was researching on anti balistic missiles and I had used the wrong names. The A30's and 50's were outdated, still in use, but wouldn't be of like for you.

I thought I posted something about Fengyun Fighter/Bomber Planes. Note that many planes I jsut changed the names, and switched tech and stuff around.
Xiaguo
20-03-2005, 08:41
Yeah, I was researching on anti balistic missiles and I had used the wrong names. The A30's and 50's were outdated, still in use, but wouldn't be of like for you.

I thought I posted something about Fengyun Fighter/Bomber Planes. Note that many planes I just changed the names, and switched tech and stuff around.
Sino
20-03-2005, 22:30
S-300s have very limited use against DF-15s considering that the Chinese program theirs to fly lower than their optimal heights, disallowing enemy SAMs (such as the PAC-3s or the S-300s) to engage them successfully. Armed with anti-armor bomblets, DF-15s become a serious threat to SAM networks also.

Due to the previous SEAD campaign of high intensity, the only radars and SAMs you can rely on are the mobile ones (if that's what's left).

As for 'war crimes', if you ban the napalm, shrapnel and shotgun, you might as well have ban the whole f*ckin' army! Did you realize that the Junta has not made any official declarations of war?
Xiaguo
21-03-2005, 07:04
Not declaring War on means that you are only murdering Xiannese, not killing them.

I never said Xiannese program THEIRS to fly lower.
Sino
21-03-2005, 21:34
Ah shite! Looks like the earliest I can post replies is sometime during the Easter break.
Sino
21-03-2005, 21:39
Not declaring War on means that you are only murdering Xiannese, not killing them.

I remembered that Chiang only called his 'war' against the commies as 'Bandit Hunting Expedition'. I shall follow the words of my political ancestry and crush the pathetic uprising.
Sino
22-03-2005, 02:46
For the sake of realism, let this be made clear to everyone. The 'war' is currently 5 days to a week old. Foreign aid of any sort arriving by land would require three weeks to get to the front (remember that it's a huge country and the distances from the source country must add up), any Quinntonian fleet to arrive would take three months (even longer for one to arrive from the Indian Ocean).

Don't just read, then ignore the above paragraph then tell me to "shut the f*ck up" like you would normally do, because I'm only doing this for the sake realism and anti-godmoding policies chartered by AMW.

Some of you people here really need to relax, this is all a game.
Xiaguo
22-03-2005, 06:27
They're currently moving troops to India on a two prong. Possibly, opening up two other fronts if necessary.

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-Sun Zhong Shan

"The Revolution has not yet succeeded. Comrades, you must carry on!"
-Sun Zhongshan

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``Placing Sun in Tiananmen Square for May 1 is an appeal to nationalism and unity for Chinese everywhere, regardless of political outlook,''

``It could be part of the party's drive to replace communist ideology with a more neutral authoritarianism based on traditional Chinese values and national pride,'' he adds.

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Beth Gellert
22-03-2005, 08:54
A minor nitpick that may never be realised in practical form, but BG could get over four thousand tons of supplies or nine thousand troops from the Indian Ocean to China by sea before lunch tomorrow if we chose to, and three months from now our capacity will be up to seven thousand tons or fifteen thousand troops, not to mention the near fifty-ton or 350-troop capacity of each in a growing number of smaller and almost as rapid delivery vectors. Ah, assuming we don't get a speeding ticket down the Strait of Malacca, heh.

That doesn't take the skies into account, but that's because, for some reason, we don't feel like flying over Sinoese airspace :)
Spyr
22-03-2005, 16:09
I remembered that Chiang only called his 'war' against the commies as 'Bandit Hunting Expedition'. I shall follow the words of my political ancestry and crush the pathetic uprising.

Ah, yes... and the Japanese Imperial Army referred to the massacre of Nanjing as an effort to suppress bandits.

Your choice of semantic company betrays your true hypocricy.
Xiaguo
22-03-2005, 16:12
LOL. Flying over Sinoese airbase is volunteering yourself to be a duck in a shooting event.
Quinntonian Dra-pol
22-03-2005, 19:36
For the sake of realism, let this be made clear to everyone. The 'war' is currently 5 days to a week old. Foreign aid of any sort arriving by land would require three weeks to get to the front (remember that it's a huge country and the distances from the source country must add up), any Quinntonian fleet to arrive would take three months (even longer for one to arrive from the Indian Ocean).

Don't just read, then ignore the above paragraph then tell me to "shut the f*ck up" like you would normally do, because I'm only doing this for the sake realism and anti-godmoding policies chartered by AMW.

Some of you people here really need to relax, this is all a game.


Spoken truly like someone not up on the latest Quinntonian affairs. We still have our nation in a state of readiness, left-over form the Bonstock conflict, which everyone thought was going to last a heck of a lot longer, we had prepared for a WWIII-like conflict that turned out to be a minor police action.
Not only that, but Quinntonia currently has something like 550,000 troops deployed in ROK and Hamhung, with the appropriate air support, due to the ongoing situation with Dra-pol.
Also, we have about 2/3 of the Quinntonian navy sitting just 200 kms north east of Japanese waters. So, three months is a little much, I could theoretically move to full invasion in a week.
And all of these have been established by numerous post, some dating back months and months, to the beginning of AMW and even before.

But I digress, Quinntonia is in a situation where they are able to force project (because of the build-up, stockpiles and other situations, including the near stand-off that happened with Lyong) around 200,000 troops into South East Asia in 30 days time. And, I maintain that I could project and support 100,000 more a month after that. (That is how many the USA projected just to the European theatre in WWII)
The reason for this, is that I have been involved in over two decades of conflict and cold-war in Korea in one way or another, and so, have spent that kind of time building force-projcetion naval and air capabilities for this very area, for this very kind of situation for two decades, with a very highly militarised, cold-war mentality that saw over 1,000,000 citizens killed in Dra-pol already. Quinntonia is more prepared for this conflict, should it come, than the USA was during WWII.

WWJD
Amen.
Sino
22-03-2005, 21:46
Ah, yes... and the Japanese Imperial Army referred to the massacre of Nanjing as an effort to suppress bandits.

Your choice of semantic company betrays your true hypocricy.

Well this isn't the Japanese Imperial Army we're talking about, this is the ARSA killing the rebel militants. All you folks ever care about is comparing a good natured Chinese person (like me) to a blood thirsty Japanese invader (unlike me). If Sino is so gung ho over uniting all Chinese people, would it be policy to kill civvies?

Why don't you go and have yourself a nice big cup of shut the f*ck up!
Sino
22-03-2005, 21:48
LOL. Flying over Sinoese airbase is volunteering yourself to be a duck in a shooting event.

More like flying 200km within a Sinoese AFB. LOL
North Yaman
22-03-2005, 22:00
Well this isn't the Japanese Imperial Army we're talking about, this is the ARSA killing the rebel militants. All you folks ever care about is comparing a good natured Chinese person (like me) to a blood thirsty Japanese invader (unlike me). If Sino is so gung ho over uniting all Chinese people, would it be policy to kill civvies?

Why don't you go and have yourself a nice big cup of shut the f*ck up!

Looks like someone can dish it out, but certainly can't take it. Also, I wonder if 'good natured' includes the mass bombings...you can't maintain that NO chinese citizen has been killed in your impressively extensive attack.
Xiaguo
23-03-2005, 01:18
Hey, that's what the Qing army said about killing the Taiping rebels.
Sino
24-03-2005, 02:15
Hey, that's what the Qing army said about killing the Taiping rebels.

You can compare the Taiping Rebels with the Falongong that you hate so much.
Sino
24-03-2005, 02:19
New Absence Notice:

I am currently in mourning due to my grandmother's death. Now if you will excuse me, I've got a plane to catch...

Concluding in sadness, her fight with lung cancer was lost. That poor woman suffered incredibly in the last year of her life on the deathbed, I sincerely hope that her next life would be of higher pleasure.

*Stands to attention and salutes*
Sino
24-03-2005, 02:22
Looks like someone can dish it out, but certainly can't take it. Also, I wonder if 'good natured' includes the mass bombings...you can't maintain that NO chinese citizen has been killed in your impressively extensive attack.

Mass bombings were conducted in precision strikes against military targets. Sadly, civilian lives will be lost, but their numbers are far fewer than those of the rebels sent to hell. Civilian casualties are by all means accidental, or that our enemies prefer to use the people as living shields. Sad facts cannot be ignored in a civil war...

All of you accuse me of being an evil Nip bastard. If I am that evil, would the nukes have flown?! This is a civil war, only then conventional arsenal's door will be flung open.
Beth Gellert
24-03-2005, 09:03
Sorry to hear that, Sino. My grandfather recently passed in the same fashion. I shan't stand to attention as such, but the sentiment's there.
Sino
24-03-2005, 09:33
(Last post, just before boarding*)

Pity how she had never smoked in her life, but she fell victim to lung cancer...

At least my family handle grief well. No one has wept and at least I never will.





*I'm currently at some internet cafe at the airport.
Xiaguo
24-03-2005, 16:12
I'm sorry to hear that Liu. Unfortunately, disease is still an enemy of the whole human race.
Xiaguo
25-03-2005, 08:13
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8522916#post8522916
Chinese Conspiracy, Ye and the many under house arrest.
Sino
26-03-2005, 23:44
I'm sorry to hear that Liu. Unfortunately, disease is still an enemy of the whole human race.

So is communism! LOL
Xiaguo
27-03-2005, 05:28
And so is fascism.
Sino
28-03-2005, 00:55
And so is fascism.

Ooh, that's something I'm not.
Armandian Cheese
28-03-2005, 01:02
OOC: Sorry about your loss, Sino. Don't worry, your grandmother is with Jesus now.
Xiaguo
28-03-2005, 03:57
OOC:I don't think, with Jesus is necessary, especially when you do not know their religious preference. I myself would be insulted.
_Taiwan
28-03-2005, 23:20
OOC: Sino, are you going to allow Liu's death this time?
Armandian Cheese
28-03-2005, 23:37
OOC:I don't think, with Jesus is necessary, especially when you do not know their religious preference. I myself would be insulted.
OOC: I'm simply stating my belief. I think she is with Jesus. How is that offensive? What would you prefer I say?
"I hope she's roastin' in Hades now, that little b**h!"
Seriously. I hate vague mentions of "a better place" as much as I hate "happy holidays." Sucking religion out of things sucks the soul out of things.
Sino
28-03-2005, 23:41
OOC: Sino, are you going to allow Liu's death this time?

No. Would you allow Zhang's death? I wouldn't even allow Ye's death. These people are pretty hard to kill, especially your stunt of doing up the rifle in a refugee camp. _Taiwan, do you know anything about sniping?!
Sino
28-03-2005, 23:42
OOC: Sorry about your loss, Sino. Don't worry, your grandmother is with Jesus now.

We're not a Christian family.
Armandian Cheese
28-03-2005, 23:44
We're not a Christian family.
Whether you are Christian or not doesn't affect where I think she has gone. But I don't mean to argue. In simpler terms, I hope she is happy, wherever she has gone off to.
Xiaguo
29-03-2005, 05:11
Sorry, I don't mean to have it in a harsh tone. I just find things like this offensive.
Sino
31-03-2005, 10:03
New Inactivity Notice:

Mountain piles of work this weekend and early next week will prevent any new posts made by me.
Sino
31-03-2005, 10:06
Whether you are Christian or not doesn't affect where I think she has gone. But I don't mean to argue. In simpler terms, I hope she is happy, wherever she has gone off to.

I'm sure she gone to a happy, peaceful place now...
_Taiwan
31-03-2005, 12:17
OOC at Xiaguo: Is Lin really dead? I'm planning to have my explosives expert meet up with the aerospace scientist (who is still back in Beijing working on the aircraft).
Xiaguo
31-03-2005, 19:55
OOC:Rumour.
Sino
01-04-2005, 02:13
OOC at Xiaguo: Is Lin really dead? I'm planning to have my explosives expert meet up with the aerospace scientist (who is still back in Beijing working on the aircraft).

OOC: Don't know if his developments survived. According to Xiaguo, Beijing's once again a flaming sh*thole.