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World Anti-Communist League

Kahta
12-03-2005, 15:14
OOC: I'm going to continue this from DA/VE

Ooc- In response to the UN Resolution Rights of Minorities and Women and the general rise of the communist movement. I needed to make a new one so that the list could be edited (Since I'm VE now, and not DA)

Ic-
"With the furtherance of the so-called Civil Rights movement and supposed and alleged global human rights, maintaining the fallacy of world cultural equality, debasing the Mississippian and other whites to the level of the cannibalistic African negro, we are reminded of something, communism... That pathetic system that attempts to make all artificially equal by beating the superiors into a position lower than nature has intended for them, thus making the great men equal of the lesser men by forcing the great men down to the same levels of the lesser men."


"To stop this plague of communism, we propose the creation of the World Anti-Communist League. Racist and non-racist nations may apply, the main this is that the nations be devoutly anti-communist and willing to oppose communism wherever and whenever it rears its ugly head."


"The main purpose of this alliance will be to coordinate efforts to replace communist governments with non-communist governments, to stop the spread of communism, and to assure the security of non-communist governments against communist threats."

"This is Joseph Mladic, of the White Peoples Radio and Television Network, signing off, reminding all freedom loving people, and all those who value quality above equality, to join the WACL."


Members:
Decisive Action/VoteEarly (Founder)
The Parthians
Armandian Cheese
Comdidia
Pernica
Avadria
Right thinking whites
Kahta
Communication
Borman Empire
Doomingsland
The Kievan People
Pacitalia
Modguy
Pantheaa
Unguided Shrapnel
Moronyicka
Aztec Lands
Sevaris
P3X1299
Zackaroth
Safehaven2
Maransune
Lame Bums
Tocrowkia
The Canadian Union
Penpusher Confederacy
SnowValley
Torrey the Psycho
The New Gondor


Enemies List / Those we should target for coups / regimes that need to be toppled or overthrown (Not just communists) :

Masspwnage
Hamptonshire
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Artitsa
Nellisland
Ankhmet
Momanguise
Hawaiian Islands
Zarax
Hogsweat
Muktar (Future tech)
Gilabad
Kelgrad
The Massive Ethiopians
Third Jerusalem
East Lithuania
The Island of Rose
Soviet Haaregrad
Celack
Sanctaphrax
Zarbia
12-03-2005, 17:10
I left this alliance long ago. Get me off the list.
Kriegorgrad
12-03-2005, 18:37
OoC: I declared my resignation from this alliance when I changed regimes. Please edit the list, thanks!
The Illuminati Council
12-03-2005, 19:43
The CEO and founder of Wilson Nano-Industries would like to point out the futility of this league, as communism cannot work thanks to human nature. Therefore, the existence of this league is unnecessary.
Penpusher Confederacy
12-03-2005, 19:45
OOC: Can I join? You might not remember my nation, though :\

IC: The Penpusher Parliament requested that our Nation be allowed to join this alliance. Our government has always been opposed to Communist nations and does its best to not associate with them.
SnowValley
12-03-2005, 19:49
I will join too, hate communist's, although I highly respect russians! :sniper:
Fascist Confederacy
12-03-2005, 20:27
Kahta...REMOVE ME FROM THE WACL MEMBER LIST. Thank you.
Kahta
12-03-2005, 20:33
OOC: Can I join? You might not remember my nation, though :\

IC: The Penpusher Parliament requested that our Nation be allowed to join this alliance. Our government has always been opposed to Communist nations and does its best to not associate with them.

OOC: Doesn't matter

IC: Welcome to the WACL.

Czar Sam Fabus
Kahta
12-03-2005, 20:34
I will join too, hate communist's, although I highly respect russians! :sniper:


Welcome to the WACL.

Czar Sam Fabus
Torrey the Psycho
12-03-2005, 20:39
I'd love to join! I hate all communists, everywhere, every time. Long live capitalism!
Armandian Cheese
12-03-2005, 20:40
I do hope the WACL actually does some good this time. Last time around, DA just used it to settle his own personal scores.
Malkyer
12-03-2005, 21:43
HEY!!! I'm not really up for communisiam and all that but you shouldn't type stuff like that, Russia is a powerful nation and you dis it like that and your gonna be in a heap of troble.

OOC: Stop spamming Kahta's thread.

IC:

We heartily support the ideal of an Anti-Communist alliance, and will consider adding our name to the ranks. One point on which we must ask clarification, though: the WACL has, in the past, been motivated by the racism of Mississippi. Now that they are no more, will this false anti-communism continue, or will true efforts be made to free all peoples from the Red Plague?

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Roach-Busters
12-03-2005, 21:43
Enemies List / Those we should target for coups / regimes that need to be toppled or overthrown:

Masspwnage

Hamptonshire, Sarzonia, Praetonia, Artitsa (who consider suppressing dissent 'abusing human rights')
Kahta
12-03-2005, 21:52
Hamptonshire, Sarzonia, Praetonia, Artitsa (who consider suppressing dissent 'abusing human rights')


They have been added to the list.

Czar Sam Fabus
Kahta
12-03-2005, 21:52
IC:

We heartily support the ideal of an Anti-Communist alliance, and will consider adding our name to the ranks. One point on which we must ask clarification, though: the WACL has, in the past, been motivated by the racism of Mississippi. Now that they are no more, will this false anti-communism continue, or will true efforts be made to free all peoples from the Red Plague?

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs


We will make efforts to rid this world of communists no matter what the race of the red are.

Czar Sam Fabus
Kriegorgrad
12-03-2005, 21:58
OoC: Thanks for taking me off the list Kahta

IC:

Kriegorgrad shows nothing but contempt for the minute nation of MassPwnage trying to be recognised by immaturely mocking a larger and more powerful nation. No matter how misguided the nation in question may be, it could still quash your puny nation in one feel swoop, so I advise you watch your tongue "Great Leader Li".

From,

The Oligarch of Kriegorgrad, Comrade Leader Nikolai Fedorenkov

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Kriegorgrad/easternblocklogo.jpg
Roach-Busters
12-03-2005, 21:59
They have been added to the list.

Czar Sam Fabus

How will we stop them?
Malkyer
12-03-2005, 21:59
We will make efforts to rid this world of communists no matter what the race of the red are.

Czar Sam Fabus

That is fine, but what of the race of the oppressed?

Davis Hanson,
Foreign Minister

OOC: The reason I'm asking all of this is because racism is very much frowned upon by Malkyeri citizens, not because of any liberalism, but because they see it as pointless. Malkyer is very homogenous (97% white, 2% Asian, 1% other), and so they've never had any reason to be racist.
Nellisland
12-03-2005, 22:39
I happened to notice that some of my allies are on your enemies list so you can feel free to add me there as well.
Ankhmet
12-03-2005, 22:47
Feel free to add me as an enemy.
Momanguise
13-03-2005, 11:13
Ditto for me, I was on the enemy list for the old alliance so I would appreciate the same treatment now.
Hawaiian Islands
13-03-2005, 11:15
Tag.

We strongly diagree with this league. We are Communist Pride.
Hogsweat
13-03-2005, 12:10
OOC - If you remember, I made an agreement condemning the WACL. I'd appreciate it if you put me on the enemy list.


IC - Guess who's back.. back again... WACL's back.... back again, tell a friend... We treat the Wankers Against Comradely Love - Er, the World Anti Communist League as we did when Mississippi was a sovereign nation. That is, unfriendly, hostile, and generally warranting a constant watch of this unsanitary alliance.
YouComrade Josef Dorsal, Autocrat of the Soviet Socialist Union (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/SME/Characters/JOSEFDORSAL.png)
Dulce Et Decorum Est, Pro Matria Mori!
http://nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg
Zarax
13-03-2005, 12:19
The Holy Empire of Zarax opposes this nonsense corporativist league and offers the support if its Sardinian facilites to any human rights respecting nation on the so-called enemy list.
Aryan Volk 1488
13-03-2005, 18:07
You have my support Brother... Death to the red menace!
Sanctaphrax
13-03-2005, 18:24
"This rogue nation of Kahta are clearly backstabbers and traitors. We were on this list, now suddenly someone else takes over and we're taken out of place. We're nearly commies! Yet we're not the WACL's enemies? Go figure. We demand Mr Fabus put us back on the enemies list now, and try and invade us. Bring your friends, bring 'em all!
Yours sincerely, may relations between us always be as they are now,
Cowlquape Pentephraxis"
Hogsweat
13-03-2005, 22:36
You have my support Brother... Death to the red menace!
We demand Aryan Volk back down from their support position or we will destroy them.
Safehaven2
13-03-2005, 22:41
We demand Aryan Volk back down from their support position or we will destroy them.

Watch your tongue, they can and will be proud members of this alliance, and if you attempt to intervene it will be Hogsweat who is thretened with destruction.
Fascist Confederacy
13-03-2005, 22:45
Bah. Again Nazi's try and 'unite' for a 'common cause'. Nazi's will never unite. I plan on sitting back and watching as the damn capitalists cave and consume eachother in greed. It sounds rather entertaining. -- Maximilian Krulkov, People's Commissar Of Labour
The White Nations
13-03-2005, 22:47
I would like to be added to the list of allies. :D
Zarax
13-03-2005, 22:48
Bah. Again Nazi's try and 'unite' for a 'common cause'. Nazi's will never unite. I plan on sitting back and watching as the damn capitalists cave and consume eachother in greed. It sounds rather entertaining. -- Maximilian Krulkov, People's Commissar Of Labour

Watch out, capitalists always allies if there is interest.
The world will end only after only capitalist will be left here.
The White Nations
13-03-2005, 22:48
We demand Aryan Volk back down from their support position or we will destroy them.

"The attempt to silence a man is the greatest honor you can bestow on him. It means that you recognize his superiority to yourself." -Joseph Sobran
Fascist Confederacy
13-03-2005, 22:51
OOC: Hogsweat, please sign on to MSN Messenger.
Keltar 7
13-03-2005, 22:54
you will all die. go to hell.
The White Nations
13-03-2005, 22:58
you will all die. go to hell.

Not the sharpest tool in the shed now are we?
Lesser Scythia
13-03-2005, 23:02
Greetings to all,

If I may be so bold as to pose a question:

How would you classify socialism on a comparative scale with communism?

For, if you detest socialist ideals similarly, by all means add the new nation of Lesser Scythia to your enemy list. I do not wish to provoke war by any means, but now that I have myself targeted for coup, here is my official statement:

I'll be waiting for your first move.
Lesser Scythia
13-03-2005, 23:17
Pardon Scythia,

It has come to our attention that Hogsweat has our backing in full, and we suggest your "league" back down and begin civilized, political talks. We will graciously take part in any debate that is held, please inform.
Safehaven2
13-03-2005, 23:20
Safehaven2 has no problem with Hogsweat even though they are communist but we have a problem with nations that threaten allies. We will stay away from Hogsweat if they stay awau from our allies.
The White Nations
13-03-2005, 23:27
The issue that TWN has with Hogsweat is simple. Hogsweat directly attacked my ally without any formal suggestion of intelligence, the comment was irrelivant and rude. AV has done nothing but propose an alliance, and who is the enemy of that alliance to decide if AV should fullfill his proposal? Hogsweat seems to have a problem with intending to threaten other nations, and as an ally I back AV. You move to destroy AV, you move to threaten the Aryan Nations.
Kahta
14-03-2005, 01:28
To all:

This is a recruitment thread, and nothing else. If you want to be on the enemies list TG or IM me.
Roach-Busters
14-03-2005, 01:57
RB regretfully withdraws from this alliance.
Kahta
14-03-2005, 02:03
RB regretfully withdraws from this alliance.


Why?

Czar Sam Fabus
The White Nations
14-03-2005, 03:45
Thank you for adding TWN and AV onto the ally list. Aryan Volk has been banned from the forums for five days because of other issues, so he asked me to speak for him. He'll continue to reply just as soon as his ban is over. :D
The White Nations
14-03-2005, 04:41
Nevermind to my last post, he's not banned for 5 days, he's banned for 3 weeks. BUT he will be back!
The New Gondor
14-03-2005, 16:56
"We would like to join this alliance"

Signed-King Denith
Roach-Busters
14-03-2005, 17:09
Please remove my name. I recently joined the RWC, and one of their demands was that I resign from all Mississippi/Fabus-affiliated organizations, treaties, and alliances.
Muktar
14-03-2005, 17:11
The CEO and founder of Wilson Nano-Industries would like to point out the futility of this league, as communism cannot work thanks to human nature. Therefore, the existence of this league is unnecessary.Half-Orcs, however, can do with communism just fine. The rascism based on unjust stereotypes really builds a sense of community. So, if you ever do get any fantasy tech nations in this alliance that are looking for trouble, they know who to look for.

(Please note on the enemies list that I am fantasy tech, to avoid RP issues of cross-tech scenarios.)
Gilabad
14-03-2005, 17:19
This is a failing act by pro-capitalists. If it takes war to keep you from continuing this groce propoganda line, then so be it. You have been warned!
Kelgrad
14-03-2005, 17:56
Add my country to the enemies list.
The Massive Ethiopians
14-03-2005, 18:12
Do to the fact that some of my closet allies are on your enemies list: Feel free to add me to it.
Third Jerusalem
14-03-2005, 18:14
Add me to the enemies list as well!
The Island of Rose
14-03-2005, 23:13
Official Statement from The Imperial Commonwealth of The Island of Rose:

The Imperial Commonwealth is not a communist nor a socialist nation, though it does have a socialist. Though we condemn it due to the fact of the hypocracy of the list.

Masspwnage
Hamptonshire
Sarzonia
Praetonia
Artitsa
Nellisland
Ankhmet
Momanguise
Hawaiian Islands
Zarax
Hogsweat

The nations of Sarzonia, Hamptonshire, and Praetonia are capitalist powerhouses, far from the communist ideal. Ankhmet, Nellisland, Hawaiian Islands, MassPwnage, and Zarax either are harmless non-communistic democracies, religious autocracies, dictatorships, or none of the above. But they aren't communist. Also, our NATO ally Momanguise is also on there, we don't like that. One finger laid on Momanguise is one finger laid on the Imperial Commonwealth. And as for Hogsweat... well he's screwed. Therefore we condemn the alliance due to the fact that it is not anti-communist, but pro-fascist. Good-day.
Sergei Ilyanov
Chancellor of Diplomacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Byeltsin.jpg)
http://img189.exs.cx/img189/9735/tior23tn.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)
Protector of the Seven Stars
Fascist Confederacy
14-03-2005, 23:17
OOC: I'm surprised I am (The Union of Soviet Republics) isn't on the list.
Praetonia
14-03-2005, 23:20
[i]The nations of Sarzonia, Hamptonshire, and Praetonia are capitalist powerhouses, that are from the communist ideal.

OOC: Hey I spend loads on welfare:

nseconomy.thirdgeek.com?nation=Praetonia

Although I agree, Im a nation that happens to have an elected government that leans towards Social Democracy, not a Communist State.

Again though, I'm rather anti-Kahta. Not that my government sees Kahta as an entity any more, now that their Mississippian masters are gone.
East Lithuania
14-03-2005, 23:30
We Completely disagree with this. Coimmunism is a good thing. Why stop it?

-Dictator Scharfetter
Newkraine
15-03-2005, 00:29
We join with one demand -

Cotland is on the enemy list - just look its resume and see why.

Cordially,
King Max of Newkraine
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 00:42
Therefore we condemn the alliance due to the fact that it is not anti-communist, but pro-fascist. Good-day.

Fascists ARE essentially anti-Communist. Your reasons for condemning the alliance are contradictory. The most notable characteristic of a fascist country is the separation and persecution or denial of equality to a specific segment of the population based upon qualities or belief systems. Whereas Communism is the abolition of power of people over people. This means abolishing "oppression," whether the oppression be of nations by nations, classes by classes, women by men or any other division in society. Communism is based on mutual cooperation, peace and justice.

Therefore based on the definitions of both governmental systems, pro-fascist ideals ARE anti-communist. My nation is a fascist nation, thus we are outwardly as well as inwardly ANTI-Communist.

Please, if you have reasons to condemn the alliance, make sure that they are logical and cannot contradict eachother.

Thank you.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
15-03-2005, 00:46
Official Reply:

What we meant was, the WACL is not made mostly of democracies against communism, we said it was made of pro-fascists. Besides, logic is a relative term.
Department of Foreign Affairs
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 00:51
This is a failing act by pro-capitalists. If it takes war to keep you from continuing this groce propoganda line, then so be it. You have been warned!

*sigh* Ok, this thread did not in any shape or from start off as a declaration of war. It started off (as I have taken it) as a proposal to any willing nation to join an alliance. So far it has not shown itself to be "a failing act by pro-capitalists." It is merely an alliance, and it will be the nations such as YOURSELF to declare war on us, therefore by already threatening a warning to the WACL you are taking the first step. The WACL is merely building an alliance, YOU are the ones threatening war.

So, in contradiction to your statement, I believe that it is YOU who have been warned.

-TWN, 14/88
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 00:55
Official Reply:

What we meant was, the WACL is not made mostly of democracies against communism, we said it was made of pro-fascists. Besides, logic is a relative term.
Department of Foreign Affairs

Logic in dealing with contradictions on any terms, governmental or not, shows intelligence. Intelligence is half the battle.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
15-03-2005, 00:58
Logic in dealing with contradictions on any terms, governmental or not, shows intelligence. Intelligence is half the battle.

-TWN, 14/88

Official Reply:

Since you're new to foreign politics, we'll say this. Nobody is intelligent in the game of diplomacy. Nobody.
Department of Foreign Affairs
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 01:05
All I stated was that your condemning the alliance was contradictory. It WAS contradictory on a literal level. I'm new to this game but I am not new to the science of politics. Contradicting yourself makes you look weak. I'm not saying that you are stupid, you're definately not stupid so don't take it the wrong way.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
15-03-2005, 01:08
(OOC: I was posting ICly... I don't why you had to make an OOC post that time.)
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 01:11
(OOC: I was posting ICly... I don't why you had to make an OOC post that time.)

(OOC: o_O eh?)
The Island of Rose
15-03-2005, 01:14
(OOC: o_O eh?)

(OOC: My Department posts were in-character, and I just noticed that you did an out-of-character post in response to that. Or am I wrong? =/ )
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 01:18
(OOC: My Department posts were in-character, and I just noticed that you did an out-of-character post in response to that. Or am I wrong? =/ )

(OOC: LOL yea I was posting as my nation the whole time. LOL!! It's ok I got confused too.)
Nellisland
15-03-2005, 04:28
Here is my stance on this "alliance." It is a scapegoat so that they can attack other nations. That was why Sarzonia and others were on it. I am on it because some of my allies are on it. I don't stand for that.
Hamptonshire
15-03-2005, 10:01
Hamptonshire is as far from communism as one can get in economic terms. In political terms, depending upon which party you support, you can run the gambit from right to center-right, to centrist, and finally center-right libertarian. Our only left leaning party has the support of less than twelve percent of the populace and then they are "left wing" because they advocate a 2% national income tax.

I'll just come and and say it-- To be placed on a list like this, to be labeled an enemy by nations like you all, well, that just means that we're doing something right.

So you can now go back to playing cowboys or cops...whatever you need to do to feel important.


-Princess Anne, Vicereine of the Grand Duchy
Vastiva
15-03-2005, 10:32
Response to be found here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8442447&postcount=62)
Celack
15-03-2005, 15:34
Official response from the government of Celack

WE find the WACL to be a laughable excuse for an "alliance." They supposedly are set on opressing communism but the majority of their enemies are not ruled by communist regimes. Their incompetence in choosing targets is really funny.

We saw this "alliance" for what it was when it was first founded by the Fabus' in missisipi. It was a group of nation that were manipulated to do Fabus' dirty work, even if said work had nothing to do with communism. Now that the Fabus in charge of Kahta is running it, you think it will different?

Sam Fabus is renown for having the least intelligence and clout of the Fabus family, which itself is renown for having no intelligence or clout. Which means that Czar Fabus has negative intelligence and clout.

We ask that the WACL adds us to their enemy list. We are very non-communistic which means we'll fit right in with the rest of them.

Jim F. Tuesat
Prime minister of Celack.
Orphiana
15-03-2005, 16:44
The King of Orphiana, the celebrated Orpheus the Great, the Orphian Royal Council, the head of the General Council, Mbandaki, the Council of Foreign and Military Affairs, the Ministery of Foreign and Military Affairs, the new Loyal Council of Noble Generals, have decided to enact the Communists Support Act. This has following consequences:

1) All offensed, attacked or threatened Communist nations may get support from Orphiana

2) All communists in exile can find a shelter in Orphiana.

3) All Orphian trade with communist lands is supported by the government.

4) All communist countries who are willing to make part of a safe Communist Region may find this in the European Lowlands.

5) All nations who dare to take up arms against or to threaten Communist nations, or to supply internal anti-communist activities in communist countries, are now declared Enemy's of the King of Orphiana and his Allies.

6) All Communist nations are invited to build up a World Communist League.

7) Orphiana forbids Orphian trade with all enemy's of the King.

8) The Communist Party is accepted as an official political faction in the Orphian Congress, next to The Liberal Front, the Catholic Refractionaries and the Royal Party of Noblemen.

9) The Communist Party is accepted as an official political faction in the General Council, counting 7 of the 51 chairs.

10) The Communist Party is acceptant as participant in the First Orphian Elections that take place 16 March 2005.

The King of Orphiana calls every communist nation to participate in a good relationship with Orphiana.

Still, the King of Orphiana declares "that Orphiana is not a communist nation, but is willing to take a lead in the freedom of internal politics of all countries."

Long lives Orpheus the Great

Slavinskly
Minister of Foreign and Military Affairs
Roach-Busters
15-03-2005, 17:09
I left this alliance long ago. Get me off the list.

Same here.
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 23:26
I'll just come and and say it-- To be placed on a list like this, to be labeled an enemy by nations like you all, well, that just means that we're doing something right.

Obviously not. If you were doing something *right*, there wouldn't be an alliance against you.
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 23:28
Official response from the government of Celack

WE find the WACL to be a laughable excuse for an "alliance." They supposedly are set on opressing communism but the majority of their enemies are not ruled by communist regimes. Their incompetence in choosing targets is really funny.

We saw this "alliance" for what it was when it was first founded by the Fabus' in missisipi. It was a group of nation that were manipulated to do Fabus' dirty work, even if said work had nothing to do with communism. Now that the Fabus in charge of Kahta is running it, you think it will different?

Sam Fabus is renown for having the least intelligence and clout of the Fabus family, which itself is renown for having no intelligence or clout. Which means that Czar Fabus has negative intelligence and clout.

We ask that the WACL adds us to their enemy list. We are very non-communistic which means we'll fit right in with the rest of them.

Jim F. Tuesat
Prime minister of Celack.

Nothing was specified as to WHO the enemy list had to be made up of. The title alone specifies that WACL is AGAINT Communism, but obviously *any* nation that is willing to protect any other Communist nation is going to be an enemy of this alliance.

What I find laughable are your sad attempts at downtrodding this alliance.

-TWN, 14/88
Nellisland
15-03-2005, 23:35
Upon reading the statement from The White Nations President stood up tall knowing that his hunch about the WACL was correct.
The White Nations
15-03-2005, 23:39
Here is my stance on this "alliance." It is a scapegoat so that they can attack other nations. That was why Sarzonia and others were on it. I am on it because some of my allies are on it. I don't stand for that.

In declaring war there is no 'scapegoat'. You either stand against something, or you are for it. The initial reason for the WACL is to form an alliance AGAINST Communism ... there is no 'scapegoating' in that. It's a straightforward simple reason. Nothing more, nothing less. And no, we are not DECLARING war (as of yet) against any nation, we are merely creating an alliance.

-TWN, 14/88
Nellisland
15-03-2005, 23:54
You claimed to have form the WACL to stop the spread of communism. However you choose to put nations that do not have communist governments on your list. My take on this is that you are using this "false" alliance as a backing. And don't tell me that there are no scpaegoats in war either. For example the United States Civil War was not about slaves...it was about Power...but in the history books it goes down as slavery. So you see this alliance is nothing but a way to gather power. I have no problem with alliances but when you use them as shielding for other causes then I do not like them.

Blah!
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 00:40
You claimed to have form the WACL to stop the spread of communism. However you choose to put nations that do not have communist governments on your list. My take on this is that you are using this "false" alliance as a backing. And don't tell me that there are no scpaegoats in war either. For example the United States Civil War was not about slaves...it was about Power...but in the history books it goes down as slavery. So you see this alliance is nothing but a way to gather power. I have no problem with alliances but when you use them as shielding for other causes then I do not like them.

Blah!

Correction, the US Civil War was about many things, not just Power. It WAS partially about slavery, partially about power, partially about race and different laws coming into effect or already in effect (Crow Laws), it was about economy AND the issue of whether the states should hold powerful individual rights (as in a Confederate government), or whether the Federalits should gain power and have the US be an entire Union. So no, you cannot place the Civil War as only happening under one category and yes, this alliance is about being ANTI-Communist, HENSE THE NAME.

-TWN, 14/88
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 00:45
Stop trying to find other reasons to be against this alliance. If you are Communist or ally with Communist nations, then fine, you have a legitimate reason to be against it. If not, you're just looking for things to argue about because you have nothing better to do. The name of this entire thread speaks for itself. WORLD AGAINST ANTI-COMMUNIST LEAGUE. Stop trying to add more drama into the situation. It's pointless and retarded.

And stop complaining about putting non-Communist nations on the enemy list.

Nothing was specified as to WHO the enemy list had to be made up of. The title alone specifies that WACL is AGAINT Communism, but obviously *any* nation that is willing to protect any other Communist nation is going to be an enemy of this alliance.

That was one of my posts on the page before. Please read things before you continue bashing them.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
16-03-2005, 00:48
Official Reply:

Well it's kind of hard to believe that it's anti-communist when most of the nations are capitalistic. But maybe we're just crazy.
Department of Foreign Affairs
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 00:56
Official Reply:

Well it's kind of hard to believe that it's anti-communist when most of the nations are capitalistic. But maybe we're just crazy.
Department of Foreign Affairs

America is a capitalistic country but has proven itself time and time again to be anti-communist, hense the Cold War and McCarthyism.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
16-03-2005, 00:58
Official Reply:

We mean in your enemy list, not your member list.
Department of Foreign Affairs
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 01:00
Official Reply:

We mean in your enemy list, not your member list.
Department of Foreign Affairs

Nothing was specified as to WHO the enemy list had to be made up of. The title alone specifies that WACL is AGAINT Communism, but obviously *any* nation that is willing to protect any other Communist nation is going to be an enemy of this alliance.

Again I have to quote myself. If you back Communist nations and are willing to protect them against us, you are our enemy. Point proven, for the 3rd time.

-TWN, 14/88
The Island of Rose
16-03-2005, 01:04
Official Reply:

We still love you. The flowers will be in the mail.
Department of Foreign Affairs
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 01:07
Official Reply:

We still love you. The flowers will be in the mail.
Department of Foreign Affairs

(OOC: o_O;; Er ...)

Umm ... well ... thanks? LOL

-TWN *clearly confused*, 14/88
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 01:40
Upon further reconcideration regarding the views of the leader of the WACL, I hearby decline my alliance in the WACL. I speak on the behalf of Aryan Volk, for he is banned and cannot speak for himself. To be pro-Jewish and anti-Communist, in the eyes of TWN and the Aryan Nations, is contradictory in of itself. Please withdraw The White Nations and Aryan Volk 1488 from the allies list.

-TWN, 14/88
Sovietany
16-03-2005, 01:52
You people will see soon enough the true strength of the communist government! The newly formed UCN (United Communist Nations) will set out to destroy democracy. We take this forum as a threat and it will not be tolerated. Dont be surprised if you here from one of these three nations soon regarding war: Sovietany, New Sovietland, North-Anti-Gua. We are currenyly trying to unite all communist countries in the Siberia, USSR, and North Korea regions. We will prevail over you. There is no more hope for democracy.

Farewell,
-Sovietany's President, Pavel Oskoeva-
Malkyer
16-03-2005, 01:54
The three of you are welcome to "destroy democracy" in Malkyer. Or at least try.
-Official Reply from the Ministry of Sarcastic Responses
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 01:54
Well, even though my nation does not see eye-to-eye with the WACL we accept that as a threat Sovietany. Due to the fact that we are a democracy. Don't get me wrong I do plan on going out and stoping the spread of communism but if you are planning war then please don't leave me out. I will have no problem helping the WACL. See you then...comrad.
Borman Empire
16-03-2005, 01:57
You people will see soon enough the true strength of the communist government! The newly formed UCN (United Communist Nations) will set out to destroy democracy. We take this forum as a threat and it will not be tolerated. Dont be surprised if you here from one of these three nations soon regarding war: Sovietany, New Sovietland, North-Anti-Gua. We are currenyly trying to unite all communist countries in the Siberia, USSR, and North Korea regions. We will prevail over you. There is no more hope for democracy.

Farewell,
-Sovietany's President, Pavel Oskoeva-

We don't like democracy.
Sovietany
16-03-2005, 01:59
Shall we discuss the place and time of battle then gentlemen? I want to atleast give you fellows a chance. Give you the heads up on the attack. When are on what soil will this battle take place. Get back to me please. We have taken what you said as agression tworads us Nellisland. The fall of democracy is soon to come.

-Sovietany's President, Pavel Oskoeva-
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 02:18
Shall we discuss the place and time of battle then gentlemen? I want to atleast give you fellows a chance. Give you the heads up on the attack. When are on what soil will this battle take place. Get back to me please. We have taken what you said as agression tworads us Nellisland. The fall of democracy is soon to come.

-Sovietany's President, Pavel Oskoeva-

I suggest you wait for the leader to update the allies list. My country along with my ally is currently on it eventhough we have asked to be withdrawn, therefore we take no part in this alliance.

-TWN, 14/88
Soviet Haaregrad
16-03-2005, 02:40
They have been added to the list.

Czar Sam Fabus

The Confederacy of Independant Socialist Republics (aka Soviet Haaregrad) should be on the list... we're at least as 'pinko commie scum' as anyone else. :p

...but you know, contact before you wanna RP.
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 02:42
The White nations...I request your assistance to ward off the threat of these nations.
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 02:56
The White nations...I request your assistance to ward off the threat of these nations.

I will have to consult with my region first. I decline to defend this particular alliance due to its pro-Jewish ideals, but if you are asking for assistance for yourself and not the WACL, then I will consider.
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 03:04
I am asking for help for myself, if you want to put it that way. Really I just don't want these nations to attack me because I am a democracy. They have made it clear that they plan to and gaining allies so I am doing the same. And if it helps my leader is Jewish and one of my closet allies is Third Jerusalem.
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 03:08
I am asking for help for myself, if you want to put it that way. Really I just don't want these nations to attack me because I am a democracy. They have made it clear that they plan to and gaining allies so I am doing the same. And if it helps my leader is Jewish and one of my closet allies is Third Jerusalem.

The reason as to why we withdrew from the alliance was because the WACL is pro-Jewish. My region and myself are Anti-Jewish. We decline any assistance to pro-Jewish nations.

-TWN, 14/88
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 03:10
(OOC: I feel kind off stupid for writing that now..anyway...)

Well I don't like anti-semitism, but I would still like your help. If you are willing to give it.
NewSovietland
16-03-2005, 03:15
WE WILL come to the aid of Sovietany. Along with North-Anti-Gua. You have have chosen to be a democracy Nellisland and you will pay the price for it too!

Sovietany's Foreing minister
Malkyer
16-03-2005, 03:20
I will have to consult with my region first. I decline to defend this particular alliance due to its pro-Jewish ideals, but if you are asking for assistance for yourself and not the WACL, then I will consider.

One hardly thinks of Kahta or the Fabus family as pro-Jewish.
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 03:21
Good come...then you will equal about 1/5 of my nations population. I didn't realize that most of you were N00bs!!!!!!!!!!
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 03:29
Good come...then you will equal about 1/5 of my nations population. I didn't realize that most of you were N00bs!!!!!!!!!!

Nice way to make yourself look like an idiot in a political game. N00bs? You say N00b in games such as Diablo and Warcraft, not political simulation games.
Rushmoria
16-03-2005, 03:29
wait, wait, ppphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahahahaah.
wow.

you guys should get the guy form numa numa as your mascot, he represents accurately the level of thought and rationality that went into this whole idea, as well as the ideology in general.

hallo? salut?.....
Malkyer
16-03-2005, 03:31
Nice way to make yourself look like an idiot in a political game. N00bs? You say N00b in games such as Diablo and Warcraft, not political simulation games.

OOC: Actually "n00b" is a pretty common insult on NS. don't challenge our 1337 5l<i1z :p
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 03:32
OOC: How long have you played this game...people get called Noobs all the time...especially in this game!
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 03:36
OOC: How long have you played this game...people get called Noobs all the time...especially in this game!

Oh, I appologize for thinking that people were more mature on here. My fault.
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 03:38
OOC: You know what I am sorry for calling thm n00bs. Worse things have happened. However people are called n00bs on this game everyday. So get used to it. But I am sorry.
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 03:38
One hardly thinks of Kahta or the Fabus family as pro-Jewish.

I spoke with the leader and creator of this alliance, and he is pro-Jewish.
Noitan Teppup
16-03-2005, 04:01
OOC: How long have you played this game...people get called Noobs all the time...especially in this game!

OOC: Not during diplomacy they don't... you're either In Character, or Out of Character. Saying it In Character would make your government's diplomatic efforts look childish...
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 04:03
OOC: I know I am way off today. So I am sorry that I wrote it at all.
The Island of Rose
16-03-2005, 04:03
OOC: Not during diplomacy they don't... you're either In Character, or Out of Character. Saying it In Character would make your government's diplomatic efforts look childish...

(OOC: Got it right out of my mouth. Besides the last time I heard the word n00b before you was... a month ago.)
Nellisland
16-03-2005, 04:05
OOC: Can please let it go...I am very sorry!
Vastiva
16-03-2005, 07:37
I spoke with the leader and creator of this alliance, and he is pro-Jewish.

OOC: :confused: When the hell did that happen?
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 22:38
OOC: :confused: When the hell did that happen?

(OOC: I spoke to him ... or her, I dunno, on AIM er ... yesterday.)
The White Nations
16-03-2005, 22:40
Please take me and Aryan Volk off the alliance list!

-TWN, 14/88
Kahta
17-03-2005, 02:11
OOC: From now on, if you want to be removed from the list, please contact me on an IM service, or TG me and I will get back to you. Please do not treat me as though I don't have a life, I have more important things to do than check nationstates.
Borman Empire
17-03-2005, 02:44
Ok
The White Nations
17-03-2005, 03:19
OOC: From now on, if you want to be removed from the list, please contact me on an IM service, or TG me and I will get back to you. Please do not treat me as though I don't have a life, I have more important things to do than check nationstates.

(OOC: OK, I appologize.)
The Illuminati Council
17-03-2005, 18:30
OOC: From now on, if you want to be removed from the list, please contact me on an IM service, or TG me and I will get back to you. Please do not treat me as though I don't have a life, I have more important things to do than check nationstates.

:D
Sanctaphrax
17-03-2005, 19:24
I spoke with the leader and creator of this alliance, and he is pro-Jewish.
ooc: :eek: Ah yes, you caught him on the schizo day, in reality he hates Jews. He has said so many anti-Israel and Jewish stuff, nobody could believe him.
And Kahta, I sent you a TG ages ago asking to be added to the enemy list, I posted here as well, now could I please be added?
Celack
17-03-2005, 22:28
And Kahta, I sent you a TG ages ago asking to be added to the enemy list, I posted here as well, now could I please be added?
Ditto
Kahta
18-03-2005, 00:07
ooc: :eek: Ah yes, you caught him on the schizo day, in reality he hates Jews. He has said so many anti-Israel and Jewish stuff, nobody could believe him.
And Kahta, I sent you a TG ages ago asking to be added to the enemy list, I posted here as well, now could I please be added?

OOC: I don't hate Jews, I have nothing against them. I think they are on the same level as: whites, Japanese, and Koreans. (some Chinese also qualify, but most are peasants)

TWN was refering to me, as the new leader of this alliance.
Daimosa
21-03-2005, 20:22
And what is wrong wth the communist nations of our world?
Celtayoshi
21-03-2005, 20:47
Celtayoshi would like to register its opposition to the Anti-Communist League. Altough we do not agree with our communist friends they do have a right to practice their governemnt style where the majority of the people see it as the best way forward.