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It was a winter night, and the Pyschotikans sat in the cold Northern parts of Finland just outside the Norwegian boarder. They were joined by the Pyschotikan forces that were part of Operation: Grey Storm, and also the Cottish forces that were a part of Operation: Grey Storm too. The joint forces of Pyschotika and Cotland sat eager to invade Norway. Tanks and even more Pyschotikan troops were being pulled to the boarder. An invasion would be soon underway.

OOC: Now to wait for Cotland to post. By the way, I am not sending any of my forces from Nebraska/South Dakota/Kansas. I have other plans for them. And there is atleast 500,000 of my Marines there, and a greater portion of my Air Force.

Prelude, 12 nautical miles off the Norwegian coast

The Admiral of the 2nd Omega Battlegroup and overall commander of the Cottish forces in the Norwegian waters were pleased. The Kriegosians didn't seem to expect them. He passed the word to the rest of the fleet: Begin Operation: Rask Seier!

Seven Ynoga Battlegroups, one Omega Battlegroup, two Wasp Battlegroups, one Wolfpack and 10 Cottish Brigades were going to take Norway and make most of it Cottish. The Admiral was expecting a victory parade down Karl Johan Street in Oslo within the week. It all depended on the Psychotikan allies in Finland. The Kriegos military in Norway would have to fight a two-fronted war.


ICS Harold Wayne (BBG-2), off Bergen

The main guns of the ICS Harold Wayne were elevated and aimed at the first target, Haakonsvern Naval Base, which was the home to most of the Kriegos fleet in Norway. Soon, 18" shells and Pole-axe cruise missiles slammed into the base, wreaking the buildings and sinking the ships that were moored there.

At the same time, the first soldiers began to disembark their ships and headed for Bergen. Once it was taken and secured (within one day according to the battleplan), the Cots would establish a puppet government and win the population over. They were masters at that.


Sotra Island, 50 kilometers from downtown Bergen

Captain Bruce Waters were the first Cottish soldier to set his feet on Norwegian soil. Directly behind him were 29 more Cottish soldiers, armed to the teeth and ready to fight once they got out of the Higgins boat. Waters ran over to the first house he saw, followed closely by the soldiers. Their first objective was to secure the bridge 600 meters to the east. According to the map, this place was named Telavaag and was the key to Bergen.

http://www.allsang.net/familien/bilder/vigdis/telavaag.jpg

The soldiers jogged over to the bridge, keeping their XM-8s ready to shoot anyone standing in their way. A few civilians looked at them, but quickly took cover when they saw the weapons. One police officer stood at the bridge when the soldiers led by Cpt Waters arrived. He was unarmed and didn't try to do anything. Quickly detaining him, Cpt Waters started questioning him.

"Who are you, and what are you doing here? Are there any soldiers here?"

The cop remained calm. The soldiers quickly found out why.

"I'm the local police officer. The soldiers you want to take is the Kriegos I suppose. There are soldiers a bit further down the road. About ten kilometers. But they have tanks and machine guns. They'll massacre you. I know because that's what they did to my family. I hope that you are here to help us?"

"Yes we are. We're here to free you from the Kriegosians." the Captain lied. If he could help them, why not let him believe that they were there only to kick out the Kriegosians?

"Then let me help you in return. There are no-one in this village. If you need a local guide, let me be that guide. The name is Ola by the way. Ola Hansen."

"Captain Bruce Waters, Imperial Cottish Army. Nice to meet you Ola. Now, if you could lead the way? I'll have the rest of the battalion secure the village, just in case."

Captain Waters called the Battalion commander, and within 15 minutes several helicopters, LCACs and Higgins boats landing, bringing in men and vehicles. Fighters and attack helicopters started to make CAS flights, and soon, the first Bradleys were in Telavaag.

The first unit to move deeper inland were Captain Waters' Echo Company. The six Bradleys detected the enemy tanks and locked their TOW-3 missiles before firing and taking out the tanks. The foot soldiers aided by the 7.62mm, 12.7mm and 15.5mm heavy MGs on the vehicles took care of the rest. Telavaag and its surrounding area was secured.

OoC: Jesus Christ...I try and leave II for a day and some lowly hounds try and attack me. If you ever want to RP with me, you have to get in touch and at least research my nation. I hope both of you have read 1984 or you'll have no idea what my nation is about. You are walking into a highly militarised state, the waters are patrolled by battleships, a Floating Fortress stands vigil over the shore line as it patrols with its smaller comrades. Ordos Fedor are on standby (the elite teams of Kriegorgrad) and the military presence is enormous.

Come back and put some effort into it next time, don't just give me some half compiled tripe that I had to read to justify this message.

This is ignored (for the time being, get in contact with me and we could discuss a rewrite of this RP) because:

1.) You assumed control of Kriegos citizens - a Kriegos policemen would flee and within minutes, COMSEC will be arming the willing militias.

2.) You can't RP Kriegos troops. Period.

3.) You had the audacity not to even contact me prior to this "RP", if one can call it that.

4.) You can't declare where my vessels are, my ships are spread out along the coast as well as keeping a lifeline with England via guarded trade routes.

5.) You didn't even count the fact that Kriegorgrad is a 1984 nation, one which is EXTREMELY paranoid and will have extensive defensives...everywhere. cameras...everywhere. Military units....everywhere. Ect. ect.

As soon as the invasion of Norway had been heard of, the North Atlantic Flotilla was preparing for battle - extended logistics had made sure that it was possible for them to be ready in half the the time normally. The huge northern fleet was preparing itself for battle as the giant supercarriers, huge superdreadnaughts, and smaller but still powerful escorts prepared for battle.

Northern Atlantic Flotilla
3x Unity Superdreadnaught
3x Victory Supercarrier
60x Type 62 Destroyers
25x Type 28 ASW Destroyer
40x Type 26 FFG's
20x Swiftsure Submarines
4x Vanguard SSBN's

The Baltic Flotilla, smaller, but still packing a punch, was also preparing to move out of their ports.

Baltic Flotilla
1x Unity Superdreadnaught
1x Victory Supercarrier
40x Type 62 Destroyers
10x Type 28 ASW Destroyer
20x Type 26 FFG's
10x Swiftsure Submarines
4x Vanguard SSBNs

Hopefully if the Cottish noticed the huge battlegroups they may stand down - if they didn't, the Southern Atlantic Battlegroup A and the Mediterranean Battlegroup was also stocking up but it would be a long time
before they would be able to get to battle, if tjhere was one.

OOC: Kriegorgrad, the reason they're doing this is because you've become eligible for Decree 12 in Earth II. Basically put, any RPers in Earth II who hold land but don't do any RPs with it are holding up space that could be occupied by active RPers.

Check this please: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7470032&postcount=1

OoC: That does not give them the right to godmod and throw some tripe at me that they haven't even researched. They should follow my suggestions and they can have an RP with me about them trying to take Norway, however they will not be allowed to godmod in it. And I'll gladly RP in Earth II but I have other things to do besides NS and alot of my RP is consumed by different areas to Earth II. Should they rewrite this, they can have the opening chapters* of the RP written for me to reply to.

*meaning stuff like ships beginning to attack and all.

OOC: Kriegorgrad, the reason they're doing this is because you've become eligible for Decree 12 in Earth II. Basically put, any RPers in Earth II who hold land but don't do any RPs with it are holding up space that could be occupied by active RPers.

Check this please: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7470032&postcount=1

Point of fact:

They cannot RP Kriegs, Citizens.

They cannot RP Kriegs, Military.

Thats the basic rules of RP (barring permission).

Now, take it up with Layarteb, now I suspect that clause deals with people who have left NS, Krieg obviously has not, since he is still semi-active.

I would have suggusted they at least try and contact Krieg before RPing this, to do so without attempt before hand is lunancy, as it's hostile RP's which usually result in ignores.

OOC: Actually, the clause deals with both those who have left NS and those who are still on it. It's to stop people claiming land on Earth II and then never coming back again. Here's the exact wording:

Therefore, if nations possessing more than 25,000 square miles are not active inside of Earth II then their territory will be open for claiming without their consent but subject to some limits. The concept of "Claim Land & Run Away" shall not be the staple point of Earth II.

There are many nations that do not have a stake in a claim in Earth II but who very much want to and will be active if they could claim land. Therefore it is the necessary action that all nations which do not maintain a minimal level of Earth II activity be removed against their will if they do not choose to do so on their own. The limits imposed upon the claiming of land that is held by inactive players will be of the following. First and foremost, the claiming MUST be done with an RP, no questions asked. Secondly, nations who are not part of Earth II must RP as well but as an insurgent or rebel force. And lastly, the nations whose land is being attacked can defend themselves but only on the pledge that they will continue to be active in Earth II. If said nations abandon their pledge then they will be removed and their land open for anyone. Inactivity will be defined loosely. Nations who are a part of Earth II and were never involved within a single RP or action of Earth II will be considered inactive. Nations who in the past were active but have since become less active or even not active at all will be considered "on the fence." This means that if their nations goes to 14 days of NS inactivity, rather than 21, their nations will be open for the taking without their consent but MUST BE DONE SO WITH AN RP.

(Mostly Layarteb's emphasis, but some of it mine as well)

I don't know if Kriegorgrad went past 14 days of NS activity; if he did, then the decree is quite clear. If not, then if he can pledge to continue activity in Earth II he can defend his lands and do whatever he likes with them.

Just a statement of the facts. The reason given for placing Kriegorgrad within Decree 12 is in this post here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8408550&postcount=2964

OoC: 14 days of NS activity? No, I'm never that long from NS, 2-3 days isn't uncommon but 14 days is stretching it. And I'm not against this RP, I simply want it done right.

OOC: Actually, the clause deals with both those who have left NS and those who are still on it. It's to stop people claiming land on Earth II and then never coming back again. Here's the exact wording:

Therefore, if nations possessing more than 25,000 square miles are not active inside of Earth II then their territory will be open for claiming without their consent but subject to some limits. The concept of "Claim Land & Run Away" shall not be the staple point of Earth II.

There are many nations that do not have a stake in a claim in Earth II but who very much want to and will be active if they could claim land. Therefore it is the necessary action that all nations which do not maintain a minimal level of Earth II activity be removed against their will if they do not choose to do so on their own. The limits imposed upon the claiming of land that is held by inactive players will be of the following. First and foremost, the claiming MUST be done with an RP, no questions asked. Secondly, nations who are not part of Earth II must RP as well but as an insurgent or rebel force. And lastly, the nations whose land is being attacked can defend themselves but only on the pledge that they will continue to be active in Earth II. If said nations abandon their pledge then they will be removed and their land open for anyone. Inactivity will be defined loosely. Nations who are a part of Earth II and were never involved within a single RP or action of Earth II will be considered inactive. Nations who in the past were active but have since become less active or even not active at all will be considered "on the fence." This means that if their nations goes to 14 days of NS inactivity, rather than 21, their nations will be open for the taking without their consent but MUST BE DONE SO WITH AN RP.

(Mostly Layarteb's emphasis, but some of it mine as well)

I don't know if Kriegorgrad went past 14 days of NS activity; if he did, then the decree is quite clear. If not, then if he can pledge to continue activity in Earth II he can defend his lands and do whatever he likes with them.

Just a statement of the facts. The reason given for placing Kriegorgrad within Decree 12 is in this post here:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8408550&postcount=2964

The point is it must be taken with RP... now if they were to RP as per the Rules of NS and Roleplaying that would be fine, but that little bit by Cotland violated the most basic rules of RP (bar in cases of total inactivity).

Now, like I said messaging Krieg before hand would have been the most intelligent thing to do, but that was not done so we shall leave that to the side.

Now, because Krieg is here and as said as much. Cotland and Co, need to go back to square one to RP with Krieg properly. I am sure we both agree on that much.

I will talk to Layarteb directly about it.

OOC: Hey, Cotland, need help?

Kriegorgrad, I can see your point about wanting it done right. Please understand that being gone for that long from Earth II did cause people to question if you were coming back. I suggest waiting until Cotland and Pyschotika reply to this, and try sorting it out from there. I know it might seem annoying, but I'm sure you can sort something out between the three of you.

Now, what I will do is suggest that all Decree 12 nations are informed of their status and asked if they're coming back or not. The reason why that has not been done so far is that most nations Layarteb has TGed in the past regarding Earth II have just ignored him.

Until Cotland and Pyschotika reply, there's not much else to do.

OoC: Yes of course Marmy, I'm trying to do that and I would like this RP to happen but only my terms which consist of good RP. And Pushka, feel free to try and attack me, but in doing so, you'll be attacking not only a member of the CCSN; an alliance you are bartering for membership in, but also the leader of the alliance. I find that quite humorous. And to let you know, any attack on Kriegos sovereignty will result in a fast and painful annexation of your lands.

OoC: That does not give them the right to godmod and throw some tripe at me that they haven't even researched. They should follow my suggestions and they can have an RP with me about them trying to take Norway, however they will not be allowed to godmod in it. And I'll gladly RP in Earth II but I have other things to do besides NS and alot of my RP is consumed by different areas to Earth II. Should they rewrite this, they can have the opening chapters* of the RP written for me to reply to.

*meaning stuff like ships beginning to attack and all.

OOC: Cough, when the conflict with Aequatio and The WIck started up, I had placed troops at our boarder.....ass munch. I didn't godmod it. So fuck you, you're being a little bitch over a game. I am at school checking posts, and so I won't be responding in big scale.

OoC: Yes of course Marmy, I'm trying to do that and I would like this RP to happen but only my terms which consist of good RP. And Pushka, feel free to try and attack me, but in doing so, you'll be attacking not only a member of the CCSN; an alliance you are bartering for membership in, but also the leader of the alliance. I find that quite humorous. And to let you know, any attack on Kriegos sovereignty will result in a fast and painful annexation of your lands.

OOC: Its ok Pushka, you can allign to me making you allign to someone who isn't as bitchy as Kriegor is, and that would be NG.

OOC: Cough, when the conflict with Aequatio and The WIck started up, I had placed troops at our boarder.....ass munch. I didn't godmod it. So fuck you, you're being a little bitch over a game. I am at school checking posts, and so I won't be responding in big scale.

OOC: And if you wanna bitch about this being false, I'll link you to the posts. ( When I'm at home 32 minutes from now )

OOC: Cough, when the conflict with Aequatio and The WIck started up, I had placed troops at our boarder.....ass munch. I didn't godmod it. So fuck you, you're being a little bitch over a game. I am at school checking posts, and so I won't be responding in big scale.

OoC: That post in itself tells me why I shouldn't RP with you, perhaps Cotland, he put some effort into his posts, he godmodded a bit but he did try, so I will gladly RP with him. You, however, seems to be an immature person who I may have caught in a bad mood, I don't know how you normally act but this is a pretty aweful first impression. And also, why should I go through your posts to find about some random action, you should've told me, not the other way round.

OOC: Cough, when the conflict with Aequatio and The WIck started up, I had placed troops at our boarder.....ass munch.

No need for insults.


I didn't godmod it.

Cotland did.


So fuck you, you're being a little bitch over a game. I am at school checking posts, and so I won't be responding in big scale.

There is no need for that kiddo, I suggust you go and learn some manners.

OOC: Hey Krieg, ya still need guns or gizmos beyond the surveillance bots? Checkin' for approval before the automated sales system goes on "Oh shizzle! A respected patron is under attack! SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL..." Godulan S-70 Assault Rifles are a thing to behold (even though I haven't actually thought up the stats for the damn things yet)

OoC: Hey Godular, that'd be great - I tried to contact but I forgot your MSN addy and couldn't do so, we could purchase the bots really soon now. And don't worry about this attack...I doubt Pyschotika will last long against a Kriegos-Hogsweatian coalition.

However...guns and gizmos may be needed in the near future - have you played Half Life 2...you know the Combine Overwatch weapons... ;)

Wow, a lot of action here. Let me start off first by offering my appolagy to you Kriegorgrad. I didn't know if you were even interested in keeping your E2 territory, and with it getting up for grabs thru Decree 12, I had to RP some resistance. In the Decree 12 situations I've been in before, noone have RP'd any resistance and I've been forced to take matters into my own hands. If you want me to rewrite, I'll do that.

Second, I want to make this to go off as correctly as possible. My appology to anyone who was offended by my godmod. Since I don't want to waste energy repeating what I just said, read above for reasons why I did it.

Kriegos, if you want to RP this, let me know. And again, sorry.

OOC: Heh, I have yer MSN already put in. Should prolly send a line so ya can catch up, although I'm swamped nowadays with CW/Klington/US stuff in my FT form.

I am afraid that I haven't had any exposure to Half-Life 2. Although I could likely hunt down a site that gives a decent overview of the technologies used in the game.

Wow, a lot of action here. Let me start off first by offering my appolagy to you Kriegorgrad. I didn't know if you were even interested in keeping your E2 territory, and with it getting up for grabs thru Decree 12, I had to RP some resistance. In the Decree 12 situations I've been in before, noone have RP'd any resistance and I've been forced to take matters into my own hands. If you want me to rewrite, I'll do that.

Second, I want to make this to go off as correctly as possible. My appology to anyone who was offended by my godmod. Since I don't want to waste energy repeating what I just said, read above for reasons why I did it.

Kriegos, if you want to RP this, let me know. And again, sorry.

OoC: Oh no worries, I should be apologising for my unfair brutality in retort to this little situation. And yes, I'd be very glad to have an RP with you, you seem a nice guy and you seem reasonable, by the way, we could RP and have it ending up that you get a small chunk of Norway in return for a NAP or something. This RP could be quite good...however, I must let you know that I value emotions and characters over techology, so try and work interesting and realistic (or just interesting) characters into your RP!

I look forward to it.

-A merry Kriegling

OoC: Oh no worries, I should be apologising for my unfair brutality in retort to this little situation. And yes, I'd be very glad to have an RP with you, you seem a nice guy and you seem reasonable, by the way, we could RP and have it ending up that you get a small chunk of Norway in return for a NAP or something. This RP could be quite good...however, I must let you know that I value emotions and characters over techology, so try and work interesting and realistic (or just interesting) characters into your RP!

I look forward to it.

-A merry Kriegling

ooc: Hmm.. I had hopes to gain all of southern (or atleast western) Norway (IRL I'm a Norwegian, so I'd like to own my home).... Anyways, thanks for being fair enough to be willing to RP it. It will be much more interesting that way. I'll delete my post and start anew if thats ok with you. Thanks again.

OOC: Ok fine:

1. I'm a jackass
2. I was in a frustrated mood
3. I shouldn't have called you names nor take it out on you
4. You were gone for so long you were put on Decree 12, me and Cotland have been contemplating to invade you even before you.
5. I, in legitimate ways, have had troops a couple of miles off of the Kriegish/Pysghotik boarder and it was mostly for safety because me, NG, Lay and everyone else was practically convinced you would have sided with Aequatio and The WIck.
6. Yea, as I said before I'm a jackass. But also, I was at school, did not have time to read everything as thorough as I should have, there for I should have waited until I was home and was able to post after reading everything fairly.
7. Yes, actually, you were freaking out a bit to much. I've seen people in your sitaution handle it in a more better way.
8. If I knew you were going to be active in EII, and you wern't under decree 12, I would have respectfully not invaded you and would have been more peaceful as I actually try to be.
9. If Cotland really really really wants this to go on, and you don't mind, then I'll remake the thread and we'll start fresh.
10. I promise to keep cool, ok?
11. Do you forgive me?

4.) You can't declare where my vessels are, my ships are spread out along the coast as well as keeping a lifeline with England via guarded trade routes.

OOC: I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but did you pay attention to the Grey Storm and Blut and Stuhl threads? I am sure Layarteb had made a blockade in the atlantic, especially where your trade route may be. I don't know, so don't hold me to my words. I am just stating what I think/thought/whatever.

OoC: Hey Godular, that'd be great - I tried to contact but I forgot your MSN addy and couldn't do so, we could purchase the bots really soon now. And don't worry about this attack...I doubt Pyschotika will last long against a Kriegos-Hogsweatian coalition.

However...guns and gizmos may be needed in the near future - have you played Half Life 2...you know the Combine Overwatch weapons... ;)

OOC: I would state the Plasma Gun being FT, unless you are FT >_> then well yay I guess.

OOC: Ok fine:

1. I'm a jackass
2. I was in a frustrated mood
3. I shouldn't have called you names nor take it out on you
4. You were gone for so long you were put on Decree 12, me and Cotland have been contemplating to invade you even before you.
5. I, in legitimate ways, have had troops a couple of miles off of the Kriegish/Pysghotik boarder and it was mostly for safety because me, NG, Lay and everyone else was practically convinced you would have sided with Aequatio and The WIck.
6. Yea, as I said before I'm a jackass. But also, I was at school, did not have time to read everything as thorough as I should have, there for I should have waited until I was home and was able to post after reading everything fairly.
7. Yes, actually, you were freaking out a bit to much. I've seen people in your sitaution handle it in a more better way.
8. If I knew you were going to be active in EII, and you wern't under decree 12, I would have respectfully not invaded you and would have been more peaceful as I actually try to be.
9. If Cotland really really really wants this to go on, and you don't mind, then I'll remake the thread and we'll start fresh.
10. I promise to keep cool, ok?
11. Do you forgive me?


OoC: We all get in moods some times, I know, and I handled the situation like I always try to: as a calm annoying bastard. Don't take it personally. Of course I forgive you, however, when we RP, we do need to place emphasis on characters and emotions rather than technology. So rather than:

"The AMK-13 Missiles soared through the air and engaged their mach 3 ect. ect."

It should be more like:

"Durkin watched in a stasis of fear as the missile screeched as it sent the air fleeing, the engines began to kick into life as the afterburners set in, the tail of the missile erupted in a display of flame in the night time air ect. ect."

I'd like this to be more of a story than a "I win rawr rawr"-style RP, so place more value on description than tech. Also, if you have to include a name for a specific type of war vehicle, please post a link for those who haven't a clue what an "FV432" is.

Also – do you have MSN?

Thanks!

OoC: We all get in moods some times, I know, and I handled the situation like I always try to: as a calm annoying bastard. Don't take it personally. Of course I forgive you, however, when we RP, we do need to place emphasis on characters and emotions rather than technology. So rather than:

"The AMK-13 Missiles soared through the air and engaged their mach 3 ect. ect."

It should be more like:

"Durkin watched in a stasis of fear as the missile screeched as it sent the air fleeing, the engines began to kick into life as the afterburners set in, the tail of the missile erupted in a display of flame in the night time air ect. ect."

I'd like this to be more of a story than a "I win rawr rawr"-style RP, so place more value on description than tech. Also, if you have to include a name for a specific type of war vehicle, please post a link for those who haven't a clue what an "FV432" is.

Also – do you have MSN?

Thanks!


OOC: Yea I do RP the way you find pleasingly better, just not when it is Decree 12 or a unclaimed nation. Because it is kind of a waste of good rp. And yea, my MSN is:

nexuslc@hotmail.com

I'll be off for a while, I'll be on around 5 or 6 PM CST.

OOC: But you not on MSN now? I'm glad we all solved the problem out. Now I can kick ass with my navy :-D Remember, in E2 I roleplay as the Soviet Union, not as Hogsweat. Therefore the Adjective is Soviet, not Hogsweatian.

IC:

The Soviet Government demands that Cottish forces withdraw from Norway or they will face swift retribution from Soviet forces in the vicinity. We will not be afraid to use violent force to dislodge Cottish forces from the area. Again, we demand that the Cottish Government withdraw all military units from Norway and officially apologise to the Kriegos government for their unprovoked actions.

All Soviet Forces were immediately put on high alert and where preparing for offensive and defensive actions, respectively. Soviet Strategic Bombers were being fueled up and armed for long range strikes - naval groups in all bases throughout the world were on alert as where border divisions and air regiments. all reserves were called up and began to mobilise.

A union that span the globe, a union upon the sun never set [literally, it's true :-p], was preparing for a possible war should it come to it. The Soviet Union was confident that they could easily crush anything in it's path.

Hogsweat, me and Kriegos are working it out via MSN. There's no need for you to get involved. At least not quite yet. Besides, we're allies remember? BTW, I thought that you weren't friendly with Kriegorgrad...

OOC: Actually, Godulan S-70 Assault Rifles are kinda like autofire shotguns with a grenade launcher attachment. Light, multiple uses, and has a nice camera attachment so soldiers can fire from behind cover with relatively good aim.

Godulan S-90s are the ones my FT forces use, and those are pretty much Hand Cannons in the truest sense of the word. Each shot pretty much packs the same punch as a steam piston to the face. S-90s ain't fer sale. :)

The reason these gentlemen are invading your land is because of Decree 12. While you are not part of 14 days of NS inactivity, which no one in Earth II understands what that purpose is (people think that if you don't do anything for 2 weeks then you are Decree 12 [not true]), your activity in Earth II has been beyond non-existent. I have not seen an Earth II post from you in months and we're talking prior to even this revitalization. I've held off on naming you Decree 12, which has been in effect for some time now, because I had some hope you would take part in the Aequatio, Wick, invasion scenario but it seemed as you have done squat. I have seen your RP'ing elsewhere on NS so I know that it isn't just an inability to RP in general because of personal committments, as was shown through Aequatio.

A similiar situation developed some time ago. Yelm invaded Squornshelous, as part of Decree 12. Now if you will notice, in Decree 12, I stated: "And lastly, the nations whose land is being attacked can defend themselves but only on the pledge that they will continue to be active in Earth II. If said nations abandon their pledge then they will be removed and their land open for anyone."

This clause right here gives everyone a "second chance" so to speak, to recant on their inactivity to Earth II as a whole and therefore allows you to effectively RP and fight this, through the sword or through the pen, or whatever other mean you wish.

Kreigograd, also keep in mind that we had a similiar situation with Samtonia calling in the members of NATO to fight for him as he went to war with Binthor. If they aren't a part of Earth II then they're not fighting here as force. What was suggested is that Samtonia hire the NATO members as mercenary forces and such, which would allow them to act but as states with full state power? Nope.

Everything seems settled so perhaps this won't be such a bad RP. I do have forces cutting off the North Sea and Baltic Sea but since the possibility of war with The Wick has gone to peace discussions I am at a cease-fire and will only attack if I am attacked... Now with that I don't actually have an official stance (IC) on this war as it does not serve my interests either way so I'll prob. go neutrality but who knows.

Note to everyone: Keep the flames down, don't need the mods getting involved!

FYI Marimaia's word is as good as mine. He, since Colodia left us ;(, is co-moderator of Earth II so there will be no disagreement between the two of us.

OoC: Sounds good Layatarb and fyi, I never even saw that war against Wick so I could hardly participate in it. However, if I ever go onto the 12th decree again, just take away Norway and assume Kriegos forces retreated to Britain. Also, can you let Kriegos shipping have a line with England, it's just because Cotland and I have a small naval RP worked out that involves England (if only in a minor role) and it would be a great help if you could let the ships go.

Cotty - I'd be willling to let you and Psychotika share a large chunk of northern Norway, southern Norway is something that will remain mine for the timebeing though BUT if the 12th decree happens again, assume you and Psychotika took Norway when Kriegos forces pulled out.

OoC: Sounds good Layatarb and fyi, I never even saw that war against Wick so I could hardly participate in it. However, if I ever go onto the 12th decree again, just take away Norway and assume Kriegos forces retreated to Britain. Also, can you let Kriegos shipping have a line with England, it's just because Cotland and I have a small naval RP worked out that involves England (if only in a minor role) and it would be a great help if you could let the ships go.

Cotty - I'd be willling to let you and Psychotika share a large chunk of northern Norway, southern Norway is something that will remain mine for the timebeing though BUT if the 12th decree happens again, assume you and Psychotika took Norway when Kriegos forces pulled out.

ooc: That sounds good to me.

Okay, so is there no actual military action being taken? Because- and I don't mean to throw a wrench into your plans but you, Cotland, and Kriegorgrad are allies (since you're both in the Roman Confederacy). For the record, in the invasion of The WIck, they would have had to have taken your side anyway.

Okay, so is there no actual military action being taken? Because- and I don't mean to throw a wrench into your plans but you, Cotland, and Kriegorgrad are allies (since you're both in the Roman Confederacy). For the record, in the invasion of The WIck, they would have had to have taken your side anyway.

Whose side? Mine? Anyway, there will be no military action... yet.

Yeah. Kriegorgrad is on your side.

Yeah. Kriegorgrad is on your side.
No, no. I meant: who would have taken my side?

For the record, in the invasion of The WIck, they would have had to have taken your side anyway.

Kriegorgrad. You said that you were afraid he'd join with The WIck when they're obligated to join against The WIck with you.

Kriegorgrad. You said that you were afraid he'd join with The WIck when they're obligated to join against The WIck with you.
I didn't say that. It was Psychotika that said that. Anyway, me and Kriegos have some plans laid for Norway...

I didn't say that. It was Psychotika that said that. Anyway, me and Kriegos have some plans laid for Norway...

My mistake then.

Krieg I assume nothing when I put people on Decree 12. If they are on that any piece or all of their land is fair game for the taking through RP.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT

The Empire of Layarteb will not assist in any conflict of such a nature unless it is directly attacked and then the belligerant in question will be the sole target of a Layartebian spear. Currently deployed in the Atlantic Ocean, North Sea, Celtic Sea, Belarus, and Baltic Sea are a mere fraction of our Navy and Air Force.


Layarteb Order of Battle

These are the following Layartebian ships and aircraft as well as a summary of the weaponry that is being employed for operations throughout the European theater. I want to bring special note to the submarines. The Centurion, New York, and Scythe class submarines are actually top secret projects that, for all intents and purposes, simply do not exist. The aircraft with an asterick (*) are top secret IC as well.

Task Force Alpha

Goal: To provide sea support to North Germania and its allies in Europe.

8th Enterprise Battlegroup - North Sea

AEGIS Class: 4
Earthquake Class: 2
Emory Land Class: 1
Enterprise Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 2
Hurricane Class: 2
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 4
Supply Class: 4
Ticonderoga Class: 4
Verrazano Class: 4
Watson Class: 2


9th Enterprise Battlegroup - Atlantic Ocean

AEGIS Class: 4
Earthquake Class: 2
Emory Land Class: 1
Enterprise Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 2
Hurricane Class: 2
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 4
Supply Class: 4
Ticonderoga Class: 4
Verrazano Class: 4
Watson Class: 2


11th Nimitz Battlegroup - North Sea

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 2
Improved Nimitz Class: 1
Layarteb Class: 1
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Watson Class: 2


12th Nimitz Battlegroup - Atlantic Ocean

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 2
Improved Nimitz Class: 1
Layarteb Class: 1
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Watson Class: 2


13th Nimitz Battlegroup - Celtic Sea / English Channel

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 2
Improved Nimitz Class: 1
Layarteb Class: 1
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Watson Class: 2


11th Wasp Battlegroup - North Sea

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 1
Jackal Class: 2
Layarteb Class: 1
LCAC: 60
LCU-2000: 30
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
San Antonio Class: 2
Sea Shadow II Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Wasp Class: 1
Watson Class: 1
Ynoga Class: 1


12th Wasp Battlegroup - Atlantic Ocean

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 1
Jackal Class: 2
Layarteb Class: 1
LCAC: 60
LCU-2000: 30
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
San Antonio Class: 2
Sea Shadow II Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Wasp Class: 1
Watson Class: 1
Ynoga Class: 1



13th Wasp Battlegroup - Baltic Sea

AEGIS Class: 2
Arsenal Class: 1
Emory Land Class: 1
Henry Kaiser Class: 1
Jackal Class: 2
Layarteb Class: 1
LCAC: 60
LCU-2000: 30
Miscellaneous Class: 4
Oliver Hazard Perry Class: 2
San Antonio Class: 2
Sea Shadow II Class: 2
Supply Class: 2
Ticonderoga Class: 2
Verrazano Class: 2
Wasp Class: 1
Watson Class: 1
Ynoga Class: 1



Subs - 3rd Attack Group

Centurion Class: 1
New York Class: 2
Scythe Class: 6
Seawolf Class: 4
Virginia Class: 4


Aircraft - 8th Enterprise Airwing

C-2A Greyhound: 4
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 8
E-2C Hawkeye: 4
EA-6B Prolwer: 4
EA-18A Growler: 4
ES-3A Shadow: 4
F-14E Super Tomcat: 12
F/A-18C Hornet: 18
F/A-18E Super Hornet: 18
F-19B Ghostrider*: 10
F-22N Raptor: 10
F-24B Knightowl: 10
F-26B Typhoon*: 16
F-29A Vulture: 16
HH-60H Seahawk: 6
S-3B Viking: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 36


Aircraft - 9th Enterprise Airwing

C-2A Greyhound: 4
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 8
E-2C Hawkeye: 4
EA-6B Prolwer: 4
EA-18A Growler: 4
ES-3A Shadow: 4
F-14E Super Tomcat: 12
F/A-18C Hornet: 18
F/A-18E Super Hornet: 18
F-19B Ghostrider*: 10
F-22N Raptor: 10
F-24B Knightowl*: 10
F-26B Typhoon: 16
F-29A Vulture: 16
HH-60H Seahawk: 6
S-3B Viking: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 36


Aircraft - 11th Nimitz Airwing

C-2A Greyhound: 4
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 4
E-2C Hawkeye: 4
EA-6B Prolwer: 4
EA-18A Growler: 4
ES-3A Shadow: 4
F-14E Super Tomcat: 12
F/A-18C Hornet: 12
F/A-18E Super Hornet: 12
F-22N Raptor: 8
HH-60H Seahawk: 5
S-3B Viking: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 20


Aircraft - 12th Nimitz Airwing

C-2A Greyhound: 4
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 4
E-2C Hawkeye: 4
EA-6B Prolwer: 4
EA-18A Growler: 4
ES-3A Shadow: 4
F-14E Super Tomcat: 12
F/A-18C Hornet: 12
F/A-18E Super Hornet: 12
F-22N Raptor: 8
HH-60H Seahawk: 5
S-3B Viking: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 20


Aircraft - 13th Nimitz Airwing

C-2A Greyhound: 4
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 4
E-2C Hawkeye: 4
EA-6B Prolwer: 4
EA-18A Growler: 4
ES-3A Shadow: 4
F-14E Super Tomcat: 12
F/A-18C Hornet: 12
F/A-18E Super Hornet: 12
F-22N Raptor: 8
HH-60H Seahawk: 5
S-3B Viking: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 20


Aircraft - 11th Wasp Airwing

AH-1W Super Cobra: 4
AV-8B+ Harrier II: 14
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 13
HH-60H Seahawk: 3
MV-22A Osprey: 4
SH-60F Seahawk: 16
UH-95A Huey II: 4


Aircraft - 12th Wasp Airwing

AH-1W Super Cobra: 4
AV-8B+ Harrier II: 14
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 13
HH-60H Seahawk: 3
MV-22A Osprey: 4
SH-60F Seahawk: 16
UH-95A Huey II: 4


Aircraft - 13th Wasp Airwing

AH-1W Super Cobra: 4
AV-8B+ Harrier II: 14
CH-53E Sea Stallion: 13
HH-60H Seahawk: 3
MV-22A Osprey: 4
SH-60F Seahawk: 16
UH-95A Huey II: 4


Aircraft - 11th Ynoga Airwing

AH-94B Stalker: 2
F-29A Vulture: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 4


Aircraft - 12th Ynoga Airwing

AH-94B Stalker: 2
F-29A Vulture: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 4


Aircraft - 13th Ynoga Airwing

AH-94B Stalker: 2
F-29A Vulture: 8
SH-60F Seahawk: 4


Combined Weaponry

MK-50 ALWT: 360
MK-55 ADCAP II: 824
RGM-84G Harpoon: 448
RGM-165A Standard LASM: 1,168
RGM-176A-2 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 250KT): 70
RGM-176A-4 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 1MT): 50
RGM-176B Tomahawk II (Anti-Ship): 710
RGM-176C Tomahawk II (HE): 1,728
RGM-176D Tomahawk II (Cluster): 760
RGM-180F Harpoon II: 328
RIM-116B Rolling Airframe Missile: 6,678
RIM-161A Standard SM-3 LEAP: 1,158
RIM-162A Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile: 1,642
RIM-184A Standard SM-4MR Block I: 3,100
RIM-184B Standard SM-4MR Block II: 1,450
RIM-185A Standard SM-4ER Block I: 2,260
RIM-185B Standard SM-4ER Block II: 1,420
RUM-139A ASROC-VL: 1,088
UGM-84G Harpoon:: 88
UGM-133B Trident D-6 (Nuclear 8x MIRV 9.5MT):: 30
UGM-176A-1 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 150KT): 40
UGM-176A-2 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 250KT): 101
UGM-176A-3 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 500KT): 40
UGM-176A-4 Tomahawk II (Nuclear 1MT): 52
UGM-176B Tomahawk II (Anti-Ship): 193
UGM-176C Tomahawk II (HE): 344
UGM-176D Tomahawk II (Cluster): 90
UGM-180G Harpoon II (Nuclear 250KT): 4
UGM-180H Harpoon II: 324


Task Force Bravo

Goal: To provide air support to North Germania and its allies in Europe.

Aircraft - 1st Expeditionary Force

A-10A Thunderbolt II: 30
A-13A Viper*: 20
AC-130H Spectre: 10
AC-130U Spooky: 10
B-5A Lightning : 20
C-17A Globemaster III: 10
C-130J Hercules: 20
E-3C Sentry: 2
E-8C J/STARS: 2
EC-130E CallCommando Solo: 2
EC-130H Compass: 2
EF-111A Raven: 30
F-15C Eagle: 50
F-15E Strike Eagle: 40
F-16C Falcon Block 50: 40
F-16CJ Falcon Block 50D: 32
F-19A Ghostrider*: 40
F-22A Raptor: 50
F-24A Knightowl*: 40
F-26A Typhoon: 26
F-28A Talon*: 20
F-30A Comet: 30
F-31A Tornado ADV: 30
F-31B Tornado GAV: 30
F-32A Foxhound: 10
F-111M Aardvark: 24
F-117A Nighthawk: 24
FB-22B Manta: 40
KC-10A Extender: 2
KC-135R Stratotanker: 2
MC-130E Combat Talon I: 4
MC-130H Combat Talon II: 4
MC-130P Combat Shadow: 4
MQ-9A Predator: 12
RQ-1A Predator: 15
RQ-4A Global Hawk: 15
RQ-10A Pegasus*: 15

OoC: Ugh...can't you just stay out Layarteb, we have this sorted. I don't want your massive uber navy spoiling what -could- be a great RP. And I need access to England, if your ships don't fire on Kriegos shipping, then that's alright.

ooc: Kriegos, you want to start the new RP now?

OoC: Cotland, could we discuss this via MSN? Thanks.

OoC: Yes of course Marmy, I'm trying to do that and I would like this RP to happen but only my terms which consist of good RP. And Pushka, feel free to try and attack me, but in doing so, you'll be attacking not only a member of the CCSN; an alliance you are bartering for membership in, but also the leader of the alliance. I find that quite humorous. And to let you know, any attack on Kriegos sovereignty will result in a fast and painful annexation of your lands.

OOC:Shit you are the dude who is the leader of that alliance. I am not really worrying about my land being annexed, you'll find me having few surprises up my sleeves. I won't interfere until you attack Cotland. Damn, a only good communist alliagnce is forming and a dude like you is on top of it. What happened to the "freindship amongst nations" principle? How did this start anyways?

OOC:Shit you are the dude who is the leader of that alliance. I am not really worrying about my land being annexed, you'll find me having few surprises up my sleeves. I won't interfere until you attack Cotland. Damn, a only good communist alliagnce is forming and a dude like you is on top of it. What happened to the "freindship amongst nations" principle? How did this start anyways?

If he attacks me, I have a few surprises for him too.. Thanks for the offer of assistance Pushka.

OOC: As long as I have a Pyschotic Dictator, I'll be verry crazy war wise. Of course, today marks the day that he will die verry verry soon. * Check the EII Revit thread, I'll have a link posted as soon as I do the kidney failure thing *

OOC:Shit you are the dude who is the leader of that alliance. I am not really worrying about my land being annexed, you'll find me having few surprises up my sleeves. I won't interfere until you attack Cotland. Damn, a only good communist alliagnce is forming and a dude like you is on top of it. What happened to the "freindship amongst nations" principle? How did this start anyways?

OoC: I'm not the leader, Hogsweat is - and Hogsweat and I are watching each others' backs in EII and as for your surprises: bring it.

Tag for later posting. I've been a little inactive these days, and I might send up a few aerial assets and maybe a division or two as mercenary forces to the highest bidder.

Cotland appologize for invasion theaths. No invasion is to take place. I consider this thread finished.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404707

OoC: I'm not the leader, Hogsweat is - and Hogsweat and I are watching each others' backs in EII and as for your surprises: bring it.

OOC: Strange, Hoqsweat is listed as one of your enemies in your factbook. Anyways this conflict seems to be resolved.

OOC: Strange, Hoqsweat is listed as one of your enemies in your factbook. Anyways this conflict seems to be resolved.

OoC: Oops, outdated that is, the reason for that is because of this (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=393477&page=1&pp=15) conflict.

Krieg, I can't just stay out of it LOL. I got forces there and both Cotland & Psychotika are allies of mine. But seriously, that's not an uber-navy deployment. Hell it isn't even a whole fleet.

Krieg, I can't just stay out of it LOL. I got forces there and both Cotland & Psychotika are allies of mine. But seriously, that's not an uber-navy deployment. Hell it isn't even a whole fleet.

OoC: Precisely why the RP was called off...

OoC: Precisely why the RP was called off...

:|

:|

OoC: Sorry, that was harsh. It wasn't only you, it was alot of people, I had a few people declaring for me in the shadows and Cot and I wanted this to be a small RP.

OoC: Sorry, that was harsh. It wasn't only you, it was alot of people, I had a few people declaring for me in the shadows and Cot and I wanted this to be a small RP.

Ah well I could use the shells anyway ;).