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FTL Communications And Networking Soloutions, by Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions, Inc. of Kanuckistan


Are you tired of distance-induced communications lag? FTL relays too expensive, and a tactical liability? Worried that your communications could be jammed, or intercepted?

Well, we here at Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions, Inc. have the soloution for you!

For a small fee, paid either monthly or annually, we can provide access to our instantanious point-to-point entanglment-based data nodes; 100% reliable, 100% secure, and 100% instantanious data transmission!


How much does it cost?

Not much! For as little as $150 USD a month, plus a deposit of $100 USD, a pair of compact, 20 terabit/second bandwidth entangled modems can be yours!


Need more bandwidth?

Higher-capasity modems are only a buck a month per extra terabit per second!


What if you don't want to keep paying?

You can return the modems for a full refund of your deposit. To prevent people from using them after failing to make payment, the entangled nodes in each modem do not connect to each other, but rather to a router which houses a node entangled with one in each modem of the pair, with each modem pair having it's own router.

Naturally, we are contractually obligated to ensure that no monitoring of your data can occur through the router; should you even feel that we have violated this trust, you can take legal action through Kanuckistani courts.


Just be sure to send us specifics on your hardware and software networking systems so we can insure compatibility with your existing systems.

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This isn't your standard quantum entanglment, BTW, but rather Contextual Thermal Entanglment - something of a long story, for this purpose, it's basicly the same.

Just know that you can't reverse engineer anything useful from the modems.

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bumpity because i'm a nice person.

bumpity because i'm a nice person.

If you were nice, you'd buy some. ;) :p

The Ork Confederazy is interested in linking their principle worlds with such a system. Our current technique (yelling loudly through a localized Impossihole) has proven inefficient and unsafe. There are roughly fourteen worlds we would like "hooked up," and we are trusting Kanuckistan to keep their location secret.

You will take shiny bitz, gold, yes?

The Ork Confederazy is interested in linking their principle worlds with such a system. Our current technique (yelling loudly through a localized Impossihole) has proven inefficient and unsafe. There are roughly fourteen worlds we would like "hooked up," and we are trusting Kanuckistan to keep their location secret.

You will take shiny bitz, gold, yes?

*Hands over a phone line*"Now you have some sort of communication while you await your sattelites"

*Hands over a phone line*"Now you have some sort of communication while you await your sattelites"

*attemptes to garrote the Macabees with the phoneline*

Our ships, while admittably clunky and ill-kempt, have fought from one end of the Milky Way to the other. We have plenty of satellites in orbit, so many that we can afford to shoot down dozens accidentally.

Sounds alot like the EPR paradox to me.

The EPR paradox describes the possibility of creating a pair of particle whose quantum state was entangled in such a way as to be mirror of each other. For example a pair or particle with position and velocity given as (x0,v) and (x0,-v), i.e. a pair of particle that at given time are at the same position, but have exactly opposed velocity vectors. After some time, the two particles would be separated by a large distance, and measurement could be done on each of them independently. Now by measuring, say, the position of particle A and the velocity of particle B, the EPR paradox states that you would thus have determined the exact state of both particles, thus violating the Heisenberg relationship.

Long explanation short you make a pare of boxes each with half the partacles in it come up with a way mesure and alter the particles move ment withen the box and bingo you have a encoded un interceptal FTL coms system.

However there is a down side to this. Those boxes can only talk to each other meaning that you coms system will reqire large banks of theas boxes in your command locations and in each of you comand ships. making for alot of space being used in said locations. The largist probly being at you DOD or it's equivlent.

OOC: It's just occured to me that I'll probably need more than 14 connectors, alot more if I'm going to fully link up my planets. Unfortunately I'm lousy with math, so I'll have to get you a complete number tomorrow or Friday (my Soc. teacher has a formula showing how many relationships there are in a group, which should work just fine for this).

Technology...hmmm. Communication tech is anologous to mid-20th century I suppose. Vacuum tubes, transistor radios, old stuff...

OOC: It's just occured to me that I'll probably need more than 14 connectors, alot more if I'm going to fully link up my planets. Unfortunately I'm lousy with math, so I'll have to get you a complete number tomorrow or Friday (my Soc. teacher has a formula showing how many relationships there are in a group, which should work just fine for this).

Technology...hmmm. Communication tech is anologous to mid-20th century I suppose. Vacuum tubes, transistor radios, old stuff...

OOC:
You can actually get away with 13, if you use one world as a centeral hub/router. But that creates a centeral point of failure, and I suspect that with orks, redundency is a good thing.

For total interconectivity between 14 worlds, assuming only 1 per planet, I think you'd need 91 pairs.

If you go with the base 20 terabit/sec on each pair, that would come out to $13'650 USD/month($163'800 USD/year) + a $9100 USD deposit on the modems.

Increasing overall network bandwidth would thusly cost an extra $91 USD/month($1092 USD/year) per terabit/second.

Pretty cheap overall.


However there is a down side to this. Those boxes can only talk to each other meaning that you coms system will reqire large banks of theas boxes in your command locations and in each of you comand ships. making for alot of space being used in said locations. The largist probly being at you DOD or it's equivlent.

OOC:
It's contextual thermal entanglment, keyword being thermal; the two bits of matter share linked thermal states, so the transmitted data can be read with a built-in IR scope, while rapid heating/cooling serves to 'transmit' data. There's also nothing quantum about it; it's based off of Contextal Mechanics, something I created to consolidate a number of high level musings as to the potential nature of reality - atleast in a fictional setting, like this.

And yer right about the downside, but networks typicly operate akin to the internet; that being one point being connected to several others, with hubs routing data along different sets toward the desired destination - your data might have to make a couple dozen jumps, but it still gets there.

Atleast, that's the cheapest way of doing it. And it means that any one ship only needs a single transciver. CTE is also easier to make conpact, as it can and usually is implimented on a macroscopic scale, and uses heat to transmit information.

Dont get me wrong, We use a quite simular system. Yes I do agree redundent system is defenatly in order for a planet/ spacestation system as we found out many cycles ago.

Our system is more twords the quantum side of it with the "built" particales (This is done by using superfluid 4-Helium). I must say you system sounds as if it is capable of a higher bitrate then our own. We can get a higher rate by increasing the amount of particles in each modem but that too has a upper limit for us.

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We can't find the formula, so I'll go with 91 connections. I think this comes to $6,825 a month with a deposit of $4,550 (100 for each pair). As usual, we will pay in shiny bitz (gold).

We can't find the formula, so I'll go with 91 connections. I think this comes to $6,825 a month with a deposit of $4,550 (100 for each pair). As usual, we will pay in shiny bitz (gold).

Eh, no; each 'pair' of modems gives you one connection - one modem on each end.

If you go with the base 20 terabit/sec on each pair, that would come out to $13'650 USD/month($163'800 USD/year) + a $9100 USD deposit on the modems, for 91 pairs of modems.

Increasing overall network bandwidth would thusly cost an extra $91 USD/month($1092 USD/year) per terabit/second.

Current gold prices sit at $438.80 USD per ounce


150x91pairs=$13'650 USD monthly cost.
100x91pairs=$9100 USD deposit.


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And sorry about the delay; I've been sick as of late.

OOC: You do understand that we have Terabit Ethernet cards right now?
And that it's only a matter of time before T3B comes out, and is even faster than these things.

OOC: You do understand that we have Terabit Ethernet cards right now?
And that it's only a matter of time before T3B comes out, and is even faster than these things.

OOC:
What's yer point? You can buy higher bandwidth sets if you want; 20tb/sec is just the absoloute lowest-end being offered.

And then there's also the tiny detail of these being totally secure, 100% reliable, instantanious FTL communication devices. Which is the whole point.

If you want more bandwidth, compress your data or buy a higher capasity modem-pair; it's only a buck a month per terabit/sec.

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Eh, no; each 'pair' of modems gives you one connection - one modem on each end.

If you go with the base 20 terabit/sec on each pair, that would come out to $13'650 USD/month($163'800 USD/year) + a $9100 USD deposit on the modems, for 91 pairs of modems.

Increasing overall network bandwidth would thusly cost an extra $91 USD/month($1092 USD/year) per terabit/second.

Current gold prices sit at $438.80 USD per ounce


150x91pairs=$13'650 USD monthly cost.
100x91pairs=$9100 USD deposit.


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And sorry about the delay; I've been sick as of late.

That comes out to approxmiately 373oz of gold, 23 pounds if my math is right (16 oz to a pound?).

That comes out to approxmiately 373oz of gold, 23 pounds if my math is right (16 oz to a pound?).

Close; you forgot the deposit.

373.3 ounces/year + 20.7 ounces/deposit
Or
23.33 pounds/year + 1.29 pounds/deposit


*absently wonders how much money that storefront owners who insist folks do their own math loose.*

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I'd order some, but I already have them implanted in the skulls of ever Otagian citizen...

I'd order some, but I already have them implanted in the skulls of ever Otagian citizen...

Arrogance and ignorance all in the same package; how efficent of you.

:p

Kanuck check your tg box please.....

Any news on the IM search? :confused:

Kanuck check your tg box please.....


OOC:
Any news on the IM search? :confused:

TGs're usually checked befor the BBS. As for the IM search, I've been busy.


And why do folk seem to like posting in my storefront threads for non-commercial-related activity? It's not fair, I tell you!

Arrogance and ignorance all in the same package; how efficent of you.

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Feh. I've had the bitz since inception. You, however, are selling them NOW.

Feh. I've had the bitz since inception. You, however, are selling them NOW.

I've have entanglment-based devices for more that a year befor you were created, I just happen to be selling them now.

And what I'm selling is based on contextual thermal entanglment, not quantum entanglment; fundimentally different tech. :P

Yeah, well... uh... I HAVE A GALAXY SPANNING AI! Nyah! ;)

Yeah, well... uh... I HAVE A GALAXY SPANNING AI! Nyah! ;)


Well I'm working on plans to destroy the universe*! So nyah yerself! :D








*Not much will be 'destroyed' until will after the heat-death of this universe, but it's the thought that counts.

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What he said.

What he said.

ditto :P

Entanglement is NOT secure. Entanglement occurs via interactions within hyperspace, which can be monitored.*

*or something

Entanglement is NOT secure. Entanglement occurs via interactions within hyperspace, which can be monitored.*

*or something

That is, at best, one theory regaurding quantum entanglment - probally from fiction.

This is contextual entanglment.

It's about any form of entanglement.

And although I did just make it up, you must understand that entanglement involves some sort of interaction between the entangled particles. If this can be said to occur over hyperspace, so be it.

It's about any form of entanglement.

And although I did just make it up, you must understand that entanglement involves some sort of interaction between the entangled particles. If this can be said to occur over hyperspace, so be it.

OOC:
So you've invented some possible, if flawed, ficticous explination. It has no bearing on this because:

A)Entanglment is instantanious regaurdless of distance; this rules out any form of hyperspace with any area/volume whatsoever, and so is improbible at best.

B)I invented Contextual Entanglment and the entire body of "science" behind the concept.

C)You pulled your explination out of thin air; it therefor has no inherent bearing on anything, unless the participants/creators desire otherwise.



No offence, but it is really anoying when folks come into my storefront and try to tell me how to do things while passing their own preconceptions off as gospel truth.

Now, if you don't have constructive criticism, or solid scientific objections(which are moot in this case as it's only inspired by proven science), please save your complaints?



And why won't anyone buy anything, damnit?

OOC:
So you've invented some possible, if flawed, ficticous explination. It has no bearing on this because:

A)Entanglment is instantanious regaurdless of distance; this rules out any form of hyperspace with any area/volume whatsoever, and so is improbible at best.

All interactions over hyperspace are instantaneous. This may be a bold assertion, but it's one that the vast majority of FT players seem to operate under. Granted, hyperspace travel may take time, but nearly everyone plays as if communications are instantaneous.

B)I invented Contextual Entanglment and the entire body of "science" behind the concept.

You did not. Entanglement is a preexisting scientific concept. If you say it's not "quantum entanglement" that does not change the fact that particles are acting in a like manner, despite the absence of any known interaction in normal space. Let me say this again: the particles are interacting with one another in an instantaneous manner, and there is no detectable medium of interaction within normal space. This points to an interaction within a medium beyond normal reality.

C)You pulled your explination out of thin air; it therefor has no inherent bearing on anything, unless the participants/creators desire otherwise.

No offence, but it is really anoying when folks come into my storefront and try to tell me how to do things while passing their own preconceptions off as gospel truth.

You are claiming to have developed a means of communication that cannot be tracked or intercepted by any means. This is not a matter of your personal taste, and it is other people's business. You are forcing on others the idea that they have no technology which can pick up your communications. This is the same as saying you have totally perfect shields or cloaking devices.

I understand you have fair intentions, and I've seen that you roleplay well. I'm just asking you to think about this a little deeper.

All interactions over hyperspace are instantaneous. This may be a bold assertion, but it's one that the vast majority of FT players seem to operate under. Granted, hyperspace travel may take time, but nearly everyone plays as if communications are instantaneous.


I've seen little evidence of this, although admittedly I've never inquiored about it, and folks usually don't elaborate about it when I'm around.

The fact of the matter is, however, that instantanious communications through any medium is physicly impossible unless that medium has no volume/area - which is not consistant with hyperspace, save a few exotic examples.

It would also mean that QE comms would be perminatly severed by exposure to most FTLi feilds.

Really, how hard is it to acknowledge that we don't know as much about the inner workings of the universe as we'd like to think?


You did not. Entanglement is a preexisting scientific concept. If you say it's not "quantum entanglement" that does not change the fact that particles are acting in a like manner, despite the absence of any known interaction in normal space. Let me say this again: the particles are interacting with one another in an instantaneous manner, and there is no detectable medium of interaction within normal space. This points to an interaction within a medium beyond normal reality.


I invented the phenominon of contextual entanglment, and named it so because of it's aparent similarity in effect to quantum entanglment.

Contextual Mechanics are, basicly, another way of looking at the structure of reality - it doesn't necessarily obey the observed laws of physics, and, in fact, operates at the level which determins what the laws of physics are.



You are claiming to have developed a means of communication that cannot be tracked or intercepted by any means. This is not a matter of your personal taste, and it is other people's business. You are forcing on others the idea that they have no technology which can pick up your communications. This is the same as saying you have totally perfect shields or cloaking devices.

I understand you have fair intentions, and I've seen that you roleplay well. I'm just asking you to think about this a little deeper.


Entanglment is limited by it's nature as a fixed point-to-point system. It only allows you to communicate with someone who physicly posesses a 'node' in your network.

And, really, I could create a much more flexible, equally unjammible, equally secure system(in fact, I have a couple that've been sitting in the 'ol 'Armoury' for a couple years now) - entanglment just has a certain intangible quality, call it style, that I happen to like.

As for your implied apeal to ballance considerations, rest asured that I always keep such in mind; this is nothing compared to a 'perfect' sheild or cloak - good, frequently changed encryption and a properly designed, fast FTL comm will get you most of the same advantages. And quantum entanglment - without your unsubstantiated 'hyperspace aspect' - is a moderatly common FTL communications technology already in use.

If you really want to eves-drop on entanglment-based comms, figure out a way to bug their networks - most folks are probally going to consider 'em 100% secure and thus not bother with encryption in general. They do physicly exist somewhere, afterall, and if you can get an agent or a microbot close enough...

The fact of the matter is, however, that instantanious communications through any medium is physicly impossible unless that medium has no volume/area - which is not consistant with hyperspace, save a few exotic examples.

You are assuming that hyperspace is simply another space that follows similar laws.

Contextual Mechanics are, basicly, another way of looking at the structure of reality - it doesn't necessarily obey the observed laws of physics, and, in fact, operates at the level which determins what the laws of physics are.

This basic level of existence is known as hyperspace. This may or may not be the way that physicists see it, but it is the way the concept is used by sci-fi writers and nationstates players.

In any case the heart of the argument is not science, especially not puffy science that we make up separately and then criticize one another for not understanding properly. It is that you claimed to have a perfect system. I was aware that one might be able to directly monitor the communications device, but I also assumed the perfect comm system would be matched with an equally perfect sensor-jamming device.

As this is not the case, I won't consider you among the new generation of subtle Godmodders. However, if we ever meet IC, I'll be sure to intercept the Admirals private chats with his underage mistress.

I will have to disagree with you there, and believe it or not, I am siding with Kanuckistan. No Kanuck hell has not frozen over :P However the basic level of existence is in fact Subspace. Nationstates players accept that, and it is widely roleplayed as such. You on the other hand are a March 2005 nation, which, and don’t take offence when I say, I believe you are too young to know the general opinion on the nationstates board, compared to veterans such as Kanuckistan and myself.

Communications on nationstates can easily be secure, its not godmoding, one just has to look at the coded transmissions used daily by sovereign nations on Earth. His communication system is acceptable, to me, and I am known as one of the main criticisers of Kanuckistan and his technology.

1. Hyperspace IS subspace. Not to mention that science, real or imagined, is not the point.
2. The idea of roleplaying communications is, IMHO to play a thoughtful game of cat and mouse, with neither side having a real advantage.
3. The Old Guard vs. New Guard struggle is, pardon me, old. As is the attempt to assert one's own superiority by seeming to feel insulted oneself:

Step 1: Assert the weakness of the person you are speaking to. "You on the other hand are a March 2005 nation"

Step 2: Affirm, by retraction. Say that the insult is not an insult at all, and is thus valid. "which, and don’t take offence when I say"

Step 3: Forgive the other person for insulting you, and for being mistaken. He insulted you, and he was mistaken, in thinking he was your equal. "I believe you are too young to know the general opinion on the nationstates board"

Step 4: Openly state your own superiority, possibly enlisting the aid of allies. "compared to veterans such as Kanuckistan and myself."

Now instead of pulling so much manipulative garbage, I have the decency to simply insult you: go to hell.

1. Hyperspace IS subspace. Not to mention that science, real or imagined, is not the point.
2. The idea of roleplaying communications is, IMHO to play a thoughtful game of cat and mouse, with neither side having a real advantage.
3. The Old Guard vs. New Guard struggle is, pardon me, old. As is the attempt to assert one's own superiority by seeming to feel insulted oneself:

Step 1: Assert the weakness of the person you are speaking to. "You on the other hand are a March 2005 nation"

Step 2: Affirm, by retraction. Say that the insult is not an insult at all, and is thus valid. "which, and don’t take offence when I say"

Step 3: Forgive the other person for insulting you, and for being mistaken. He insulted you, and he was mistaken, in thinking he was your equal. "I believe you are too young to know the general opinion on the nationstates board"

Step 4: Openly state your own superiority, possibly enlisting the aid of allies. "compared to veterans such as Kanuckistan and myself."

Now instead of pulling so much manipulative garbage, I have the decency to simply insult you: go to hell.

Well then, your opinion of the nationstates board is utterly flawed you ignorant fool. Most nationstates players, myself included, use two primary dimensional forms of faster than light travel. Subspace and Hyperspace. If you had gathered the general consensus of the forums as you previously stated you had, you would know this, and would not, at this moment in time, be looking like an idiot.

Secondly, may I add, that my point that you are too young to know the consensus of the forums has just been justified by your lack of knowledge on how people roleplay.

Thirdly, I am so happy that you regarded my writing as manipulative, after all this is a political roleplay game, so well, if you don’t want to see manipulative writing, that I suggest you leave.

Point Number Four. The old guard versus the new guard is a valid point, as, and I’m sure you recognise it, I have just shown that you, and your knowledge of nationstates is in fact quintessentially flawed. Perhaps you could learn from the older players instead of insulting them ehh?

I'll be brief. You have gone out of your way to involve your macho posturing in a matter that does not concern you. I agreed to disagree with Kanuckistan before you came on the scene. Despite the total stupidity and selfishness you have shown, I will do the same with you. If you now feel compelled to talk to yourself, Kanuckistan will blame YOU for having his thread deleted

I'll be brief. You have gone out of your way to involve your macho posturing in a matter that does not concern you. I agreed to disagree with Kanuckistan before you came on the scene. Despite the total stupidity and selfishness you have shown, I will do the same with you. If you now feel compelled to talk to yourself, Kanuckistan will blame YOU for having his thread deleted

Funny, I do believe you also have gone out of your way to sate as disagreement with whatever is being said. There is a word for people like you and this is hypocrite. Total stupidity I have shown? It is not I that contradicted myself in flawed and useless arguments.

I do not care for what Kanuckistan feels to blame me for, as I think he would join me in saying that you need to learn when to shut up.

You are a new nation, who struts around the forums contradicting players older and more respected than yourself, you are a new nation, who, does not know when its time to keep silent and accept that he is wrong.

I fear we are seeing another GZ….

Alright, I'll start by saying that both of you are wrong about hyperspace/subspace. They are names for, nominally, either other spatial planes or dimentional axis'.

There are also a bazillion different types of 'subspace' and 'hyperspace', each of which will more often than not have unique properties. In general, the two terms can be used interchangibly - it's only when you start talking about specific instances of such that distinctions arise.

Babalyon 5 hyperspace is not Star Wars Hyperspace is not Honor Harrington hyperspace etc.

Star Trek subspace is not Shivan subspace is not Halo subspace, etc


And neither are, in all but a handfull of sci-fi universes, considered "the basic level of existence." Frankly, neither of you seem to understand the implications of such a statment. "The basic level of existence" is not a place, so much as a perspective, or maybe scale, somewhat like quantum mechanics, but more fundimental; the underlying framework that determins the nature and behanior of all things above it - and that's 'above' as in scale, not spatial refference.





As this is not the case, I won't consider you among the new generation of subtle Godmodders. However, if we ever meet IC, I'll be sure to intercept the Admirals private chats with his underage mistress.

And how would you propose to pull something like that off?

By detecting effects produced by your entanglement communications. The psychological background of my scientists will lead them to rationalize these effects as "fluctuations in hyperspace", hyperspace being that which they consider the basic level of reality.

You must realize that alien civilizations, or even alternate human civilizations, may develop radically different scientific explainations for natural phenomena that are a) incompatable with our own b) equally apt for the purpose of understanding and predicting nature.

Tell you what. I'll be nice and say they would have to directly scan the thermal tank thing you use.

By detecting effects produced by your entanglement communications. The psychological background of my scientists will lead them to rationalize these effects as "fluctuations in hyperspace", hyperspace being that which they consider the basic level of reality.

You must realize that alien civilizations, or even alternate human civilizations, may develop radically different scientific explainations for natural phenomena that are a) incompatable with our own b) equally apt for the purpose of understanding and predicting nature.

Yes, but developing a different explination doesn't change what is right and what is wrong, no more than beliving the world flat makes it so. IDIC is important to recognise when dealing with an open, freeform RP enviroment like NS, but you've got to realise that you can't go about redefining other people's technology to suit your whims.

And the fact is that contectual thermal entanglment has nothing to do with hyperspace - if it did, I couldn't use it, because my FTLi would block it.

Additionally, as the creator of CTE, I am the final authority on how it works. It is not a debatible theory, but rather absolute fact - what you propose is akin to insisting that my ship's computers are run by invisible gnomes with magic power, and that you know how to communicate with them telepathicly.


Tell you what. I'll be nice and say they would have to directly scan the thermal tank thing you use.

Considering that would be an 'offencive'-type action, the nature of freeform RP actually gives me, as the defender, final say in if you succeed or not.

And there'd be more to it than 'scanning the modem', considering, as you pointed out, our technologies are probally pretty alien relative to each other. And I would, naturally, have countermeasures in place, atleast if you were scanning from a distance; you could bypass most of that if you managed to infiltrate an agent or remote.

Considering that would be an 'offencive'-type action, the nature of freeform RP actually gives me, as the defender, final say in if you succeed or not.

And there'd be more to it than 'scanning the modem', considering, as you pointed out, our technologies are probally pretty alien relative to each other. And I would, naturally, have countermeasures in place, atleast if you were scanning from a distance; you could bypass most of that if you managed to infiltrate an agent or remote.

You said earlier that the signal was sent by rapidly altering the temperature of the tank. If my sensors can detect the temperature of the tank, even basic analysis will show a large amount of data is involved. I'm using scattering jammers myself, so of course your countermeasures seem reasonable.

As for intercepting the signal in hyperspace: What I was saying is that this works in the aspect of existence that my scientists call hyperspace. Your scientists might call it something else. To use your example, if your computers work on things that your scientists call electrons, my scientists consider electrons to be tiny gnomes. In any case, it wouldn't be a function of hyperspace useful for FTL travel. I also won't be developing the tech for at least 20 years.

As for intercepting the signal in hyperspace: What I was saying is that this works in the aspect of existence that my scientists call hyperspace. Your scientists might call it something else. To use your example, if your computers work on things that your scientists call electrons, my scientists consider electrons to be tiny gnomes. In any case, it wouldn't be a function of hyperspace useful for FTL travel. I also won't be developing the tech for at least 20 years.

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It is not a aspect of existance; it is not a tangible place. In this sense it's more like quantum mechanics; the underlying makeup of of everything larger, like the bricks and boards of a house.

Additionally, the link between two contextually entangled particles does not manifest in reality at large, and might as well not exist, relative to the rest of the multiverse; it only exists within the subjective contexts of the entangled mass.

If your 'hyperspace' and my contextual mechanics were the same, you would have to get a rediculously intensive and fundimental scan of the specific matter involved to directly detect the link, althought obviously it would be much easier to infer it's existance if you knew what to look for because of the altered thermal properties of CTE(and that would still requior getting a look at the specific matter involved in the entanglment).

And I'm not concerned about what you develop, so much as I'm trying to press home the reality that you can't reinvent other people's technology to suit your whims or preconceptions; that's godmodding.

is it godmoding to say that the shield designed to "block everything" in fact does not?

is it godmoding to say that the shield designed to "block everything" in fact does not?

OOC:
Designed to? No, not if you can find some way in the explination to get around it. And even then, your work-around is subject to the defender's aproval.

If the OOC creator defines it as, in fact, actually blocking everything, without exception, then it would be godmodding to RP as if it didn't. Of course, unless it has some substantial drawback and/or limitation, or is used as a plot device, the shield itself would probally also be a godmod.


In this case, however, you are trying to redefine what my technology actually is, in direct contradiction to the technical explination. I'm not describing a falible theory, but, as the creator, the OOC factual absolutes.

Your people could come up with a theory that would perdict that it would create "fluxuations in hyperspace", but like many in RL, it would be a flawed theory, and those fluxuations would not be observed, because they don't exist - or, atleast, not as a result of CE.

Hell, your people could belive that all worlds were flat, and you could RP that those you created were, too; but that wouldn't make my worlds flat, and trying to force that upon me would be Godmodding.

You can also say, "Oh, we call that hyperspace," but you can't redefine what it means for what I create. Of course, as they're obviously different, they certaintly aren't the same - not in the absolute sense. Related, prehaps, but not the same, because they're not.

If you really want to eves-drop on entanglment-based comms, figure out a way to bug their networks - most folks are probally going to consider 'em 100% secure and thus not bother with encryption in general. They do physicly exist somewhere, afterall, and if you can get an agent or a microbot close enough...
Not bother with encryption? With all due respect, this assumes remarkable stupidity on whoever you're attempting to spy on. Menelmacari communications are entanglement-based, and we still encrypt just about everything. No matter what you've got, someone somewhere has something that counters it. It's a lesson the Kanuckistani would do well to learn.

Not bother with encryption? With all due respect, this assumes remarkable stupidity on whoever you're attempting to spy on. Menelmacari communications are entanglement-based, and we still encrypt just about everything. No matter what you've got, someone somewhere has something that counters it. It's a lesson the Kanuckistani would do well to learn.

I did say 'most folks'; you're talking to someone whose boarder requiors an invasive(but not painful or harmful) telepathic scan to cross, while the person being scanned is under the influance of fields supressing magic and psionics - we specialise in 'paranoid' when it comes to national and military security.

I did say 'most folks'; you're talking to someone whose boarder requiors an invasive(but not painful or harmful) telepathic scan to cross, while the person being scanned is under the influance of fields supressing magic and psionics - we specialise in 'paranoid' when it comes to national and military security.
Ouch. That's gotta be an absolute bitch on your foreign trade numbers. :) Most people consider their thoughts to be their own. But whatever works for you.

Ouch. That's gotta be an absolute bitch on your foreign trade numbers. :) Most people consider their thoughts to be their own. But whatever works for you.


It hurts, but when less cautious folks fall victim to things like world-devouring nanite swarms and the ilk, ya can't be too careful. Tho the teeps doing the scans in question all sign confidentiality agreements and the ilk; most opt to have the memories purged, too, both for liability's sake and to keep traces from accumulating.

However, a number of private interests - chiefly the Kanuckistani Merchant's Association - maintain a number of commerce stations clustered around the Home Cluster's two gateway stations; they're 'extra-national', and manage to largly off-set most of the negative economic impact.

It's even benifical, in a way, as it helps insure we maintain a trade surplus; presently to the tune of $2 trillion USD.

With the current state of war between the CFG and the Fedral Union And an invasion of the Beta arm, the Colonial and Federal Military both need a fast, sacure and Large system to pass infomation. So far sending data from one side of the Empire to the other takes nearly a week, we hope that your system can cut this time down by half. With our current system infomation that is passed is limited to only 10 terabits and that pushing it. As you can imagin in times of war lots of infomation is needed to be sent (letters to familys, tactical infomation and so forth). For this reason we request Several questions:-

Is it possible to buy a total military Network useing your system connecting Fleet Carriers (command ships), military bases, Key planets etc to effectively send and recive com chatter.

Are you able to make/place this system within a week.

As this is for military reasons and much infomation would be classifed is it possible that your Corporation is unable to monitor, view etc any infomation (eg it dont go outside this network).



WE are willing to pay what ever it takes and make meny compromiseing if needs be.

Otagia would like to enquire as to the possibility of using CTE as a coolant method for several of our star ships by heating one entangled tank on one end (the vessel) and cooling it on the other (some ice world or another).

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Wow, I thought this was dead; only reason I kept it in my sig was that it allowed me to easily pick out my own posts while rapidly scrolling through a thread. :D

Tho given your stated comms capabilities, this kit should revolutionise that part of your nation; if the civies pick it up, it would probably cripple your domestic competitors' market share(CTE isn't quite as versatile a networking tech, being fixed point-to-point, but it's transfer rates and speeds cheaply best your stated military capability). Just a thought.


IC:

To: The Colonial Federal Government of CorpSac
From: Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions Inc., Kanuckistan
Subject: Re: Military Network


Salutations;

Our modern CTE networks are reliable, secure, and effectively instantaneous, with a sub-nanosecond transmission delay not affected by distance, and an infinitely scalable data carrying capacity that increases directly in line with cost. Furthermore, the privacy of your data traffic is contractually guaranteed; it is our legal obligation to insure that noone can monitor it on our end, and one we have steadfastly upheld for over three and a half centuries.

The network you request sounds relatively simple and straight forward, and can be implemented in several ways, with cost and time frame depending on several factors.

The fastest method would be the implementation of simple repeater nodes, which can be placed where needed and programmed to retransmit any transmission of the proper form that they receive. Being a simple 'plug-and-play' system, it can be rapidly implemented without any real concern for integration, but is crude and possesses a number of both real and potential drawbacks; I would only recommend it as temporary a stop-gap measure, providing basic functionality while a properly integrated network is installed. All you have to do is sit them somewhere they can pick up the appropriate transmissions, and their rebroadcasts can be received.

Otherwise, a properly integrated network should be fairly simple; modems are independently powered, compact, and simply require compatible data port connections of sufficient capacity. Based on what we know of your civilian computer technology it should be a simple matter to fabricate compatible modems once you provide us with the proper connector specs, assuming your military uses a different standard.

The primary question that must be answered is three-fold; how many points do you want to network, how redundant do you want this network to be(keeping in mind that CTE is fixed point-to-point; each modem can only directly communicate with it's partner), and of what networking capacity do you want particular links to be(ie, a link between two major bases would probably want a higher transfer rate than one connecting two ships, or a ship and a base).

Attached is a copy of our pricing scheme, standard customer contract, and miscellaneous information, including basic technical data so that you can start preparing your systems in preparation, as this seems a time-sensitive matter.

Should you maintain interest, I await the data port connector specifications, as well as details of the desired network, and any further questions you may have.


Signed:
Nigh Morgan
Nigh Morgan, Sales Rep.,
Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions Inc.,
Kanuckistan



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To: The Corporate Monarchy of Otagia
From: Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions Inc., Kanuckistan
Subject: Re: Cooling Systems


Salutations;

Tho we specialise in communications systems, this is a common alternative application of the technology. Befor I could say more, however, I'd need to have some idea as to the magnitude of the cooling required.


Signed:
Nigh Morgan
Nigh Morgan, Sales Rep.,
Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions Inc.,
Kanuckistan

From: The Colonial Federal Government Department of Defence
TO: Sufficiently Advanced Data Soloutions Inc., Kanuckistan
Subject: Re: Re: Military Network

The Com systems we use at the moment have not changed for a vary long time, only the encryption. Once a basic military network is made and if we win the Helghan war, we will want a more advanced network aswell as a civilian network (to allow the inter-Planet-net, we havent come up with a name net). We are hoping to devlop a MMI (machine mind interface) and crate a Vertral network and an instant data transfer is the best thing for this.

We gladly accept your First option for the network and after the Helghan war we would wish for a total revamp of the comm system. All your teams will be givin clearance to work in all the military bases and ships in dry docks to start as soon as your people can.

Message from Alexander Kirillovich Kazansky

Sometimes being rich – but really, humongously rich – helps.

I request the following high-security, high-bandwidth connections to be installed.

1.A 10-petabyte connection for my palace, known as Alcarinqua, to connect to an Internet provider of choice on Earth. That should cost approximately $121,560 a year.

2.A 10-petabyte connection for my yacht, the SS Miriel nos Feanor to connect to an Internet provider of choice on Earth. That should cost approximately $121,560 a year.

3. A 1-petabyte connection for my laptop, as above, for $13,560 a year.

The total would be $256,680, an easy sum for an individual of my wealth.

Further, a $450 deposit will be made with your company for the modems.

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O.o

Yer math seems off.

Also, thought this was dead and buried, sorry it took so long to respond.


IC:

To: Alexander Kirillovich Kazansky
From: Sufficiently Advanced Data Solutions Inc., Kanuckistan
Subject: Re: Secure Connections


Salutations;

I believe, Mr. Kazansky, that you will be pleased to discover the actual price to be a mere ~67% of your estimates. I've taken the liberty of attaching a breakdown for your review.

Additionally, I regret to say that we aren't in the business of hardware installation. However, once you have provided technical specifications for the modem connectors - simply naming any well known standard capable of supporting your requested bandwidth is usually sufficient - we can ship them to a specialist of your choice to handle the details, or at added cost, have the appropriate service personnel come on-site and do it for you, should you have no one on hand to conduct installation.

Be advised, however, that set up is usually a matter of plug-and-play, with the device functionally indifferent from a networking cable in most cases. Who ever handles your existing network should have no problem incorporating the devices.

Signed:
Nigh Morgan
Nigh Morgan, Sales Rep.,
Sufficiently Advanced Data Solutions Inc.,
Kanuckistan



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File Attachment:
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1x 10 Petabyte Connection:

10 Petabytes = Bytes -> Bits (10240 * 8) = 81 920 Terabits

$150 = 20 Terabits
$81'900 = 81 900 Terabits extra bandwidth
+______
$82'050 Annual
+
$100 = Modem Pair Deposit

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1x 10 Petabyte Connection:

10 Petabytes = Bytes -> Bits (10240 * 8) = 81 920 Terabits

$150 = 20 Terabits
$81'900 = 81 900 Terabits extra bandwidth
+______
$82'050 Annual
+
$100 = Modem Pair Deposit

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1x 1 Petabyte Connection:

1 Petabytes = Bytes -> Bits (1024 * 8) = 8 192 Terabits

$150 = 20 Terabits
$8'172 = 8'172 Terabits extra bandwidth
+______
$8'322 Annual
+
$100 = Modem Pair Deposit

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Total:
$172 422 Annual

$300 Deposit

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Response on shiny Alexander Kazansky Letterhead


This is wonderful. I accept these conditions. Money will be wired immediately. By the way, do you have any modems small enough to be compatible for use in portable phones?

OOC:

Assuming tech and delivery details were in an attached file with your last message.

IC:
To: Alexander Kirillovich Kazansky
From: Sufficiently Advanced Data Solutions Inc., Kanuckistan
Subject: Re: Secure Connections


Salutations;

A pleasure, Mister Kazansky. Payment has been confirmed, and your modems should be enroute presently.

As for your additional inquerry, modems small enough to act as FTL relays within one's own nervous system are on the market, and others smaller still. Expense increases as bandwidth goes up and size goes down, naturally enough, but I believe we could provide you with, say, a one petabyte connection on a modem measuring no more than 5 by 10 by 20 millimeters, while remaining within our existing pricing structure. If you were to provide bandwidth and volume specifications, I could provide a firmer answer.

Signed:
Nigh Morgan
Nigh Morgan, Sales Rep.,
Sufficiently Advanced Data Solutions Inc.,
Kanuckistan