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Imperial Class Super Dreadnaught

Picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/Imperial%20Praetonian%20Shipyards/ImperialClassSD.gif

Length: 810m
Beam: 155m
Draught: 21.6m
Crew:: 8,285 Naval; 1,024 Marines
Displacement: 2,432,230 tonnes
Speed:: 28knts (cruise) 31knts (max)
Range: Limited only by consumables and state of nuclear fuel.
Consumables generally stored for 12 months of use.
Armament:
18x 25”/72 ETC Naval Cannon (A, B, C, X, Y and Z positions in a triple turrets)
12x 96 cell Ballista VLS (Superstructure; General Load: SSM / SAM; 2,304 missiles)
4x 16 cell Ballista VLS (Amidships; Discus SAAM, 256 missiles)
8x Quadruple Reloadable Torpedo Launchers (for / aft in armoured mounts)
40x Testudo CIWS (including gun, light rockets and countermeasure suite)
24x SubTestudo (anti-torpedo super-cav 30mm cannon and countermeasures)
Aviation: Space for storing and maintaining twenty four helicopters, or twelve VTOL aeroplanes
Armour:
Standard IPO Armour Scheme (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/TigerAmourScheme.gif) Note: There is a strong possibility of hardened titanium rods being added to the armour mix. Also, the picture represents ratio of armour plating, not actual thickness.
1,350mm (turret and armoured belt)
1,100mm (general hull and deck)
1,575mm (over reactors and magazines)
Air Search Radar: IPO-82 A ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Surface Search Radar: IPO-82 B ‘Causa’ Active / Passive Phased Array
Fire Control Radar: IPO-83 ‘Simplex’ Phased Array
Sonar: IPO-84 'Polax' Bow Mounted and Towed Active / Passive Array Arrays
Propulsion: Ten IPO-02 Pebblebedded Nuclear Reactors powering four high-pressure waterjets
Annual Running Costs: $8.75bn

The Democratic Imperium of Praetonia has long been a naval power, and has also operated a small fleet of Super Dreadnaughts for quite some time. The Imperial Navy has, however, come to the realisation that the older Freedom Class Super Dreadnaughts (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=345131) are approaching the end of their service lives.

The Ministry of Defence has, therefore, commissioned Imperial Praetonian Shipyards to design and construct a new Super Dreadnaught to meet the requirements for a new, larger command and control ship with a powerful gun and missile armament capable of forming the core of a large expeditionary or defencive fleet. The design specification called for a ship mounting at least 12x 24" guns and 1,500 VLS cells, along with an adequate aviation wing of helicopters whilst being able to withstand impacts from 30" shells and large SSMs and torpedoes.

The end result has exceeded these requirements spectacularly, and the first ship, the PWS Imperial is about to be launched onto the high seas for the first time. If the vessel proves a success on sea trials, a further four ships, alread laid down, will be completed within the next 30 years:

PWS Isselmere
PWS Imperator
PWS Praeton
PWS Imperial Glory

If the decision is taken to decomission the current Freedom Class Super Dreadnaughts, it is believed that they will be sold on and a further three Imperials constructed, to be named:

PWS Freedom
PWS Imperium
PWS Sarzonia

Unit Cost: $175bn (Note: Not yet for sale - price to build).

OOC: Can you post it as a link? Its breaking the page REALLY bad.

If I do that the picture looks very small and rubbishy. Besides, so long as you
press enter at the beginning of each line on the reply screen you can read what
people are saying fine. Anyway, what do you think of the ship?

The Incorporation is interested in buying two of these
fine vessals, for a grand total of 350 Billion. Money
to be wired upon confirmation. Thank you!

OOC: Very nice. I like the sheer, um, bigness. I wonder what
would do when pit up against the Argos though...

Telegram to Ramissle

There is currently no intention to sell any examples of the Imperial Class,
however they may be scope for an export version once the 5 or 8, depending on
the decision made upon the Freedom Class, vessels are completed for the
Imperial Praetonian Navy. We do, however, appreciate your interest in the
vessel.

OOC: Ack, I forgot to add the not for sale thing to the post.

OOC: Ok, I just saw the price and assumed so.
Really a very nice ship though.

Very impressive.

Very Cool

Thankye

PWS Isselmere and Sarzonia? Nice little tributes.

PWS Isselmere and Sarzonia? Nice little tributes.
Yar. Well Sarzonia named a ship after me, a class after my capital and another
class after my leader, so I owe him one. Or two. I'm not sure if Isselmere has
done the same *shrug* but he's still a good ally.

Yar. Well Sarzonia named a ship after me, a class after my capital and another
class after my leader, so I owe him one. Or two. I'm not sure if Isselmere has
done the same *shrug* but he's still a good ally.Not to mention yet another class after another former leader. :)

The one naming convention I follow consistently is that flagships in the ISN are named after my close allies. That's why there is an ISS Isselmere and an ISS Praetonia.

The one naming convention I follow consistently is that flagships in the ISN are named after my close allies.

So that's why the ISS Hamptonshire is a supply ship... :p


Back to Prae's ship-

You have 1,024 Marines but I don't see listed what sort of boats come with this thing. You surely can't have helicopters as the only way to move all those Marines.

So that's why the ISS Hamptonshire is a supply
ship...:P


Back to Prae's ship-

You have 1,024 Marines but I don't see listed what sort of boats come with this
thing. You surely can't have helicopters as the only way to move all those
Marines.
The marines are mainly there to repel anyone who lands on the ship. I assume it
has some small boats, as do all my other ships, but as my V2.0 of IPS is now
over half the character limitation and I havent even put up my ASW Frigate yet,
I've had to adapt my layout to ommit some of the less vital information.

OOC:

Very, very, very.... well big, actually. But very cool all the same. Nice work Prae, keep it up.

OOC:

Very, very, very.... well big, actually. But very cool all the same. Nice work Prae, keep it up.
Thanks :)

Wow... Im amazed I havent gotten any "SDs are rubbish and godmod u nub" or "Thousands of subs could kill this. It's useless u nub" posts.

Yar. Well Sarzonia named a ship after me, a class after my capital and another
class after my leader, so I owe him one. Or two. I'm not sure if Isselmere has
done the same *shrug* but he's still a good ally.
OOC: The RINN is nervous about naming ships after nations following the old naval/political concerns about one's nation having the same fate as a particular ship. :) There are Coronation-class battleships named for allies' capitals or symbols and the RINN does practise a tradition of sister-ships with those of allied nations. Once those are decommissioned, newer vessels will receive their names.

bravo I myself resently created a similar ship the TK-75 sea king mobile sea base,(I am not accusing you of copying) but you did alot better then I could ever do. I never got a single reply. I wish I could have made one this good. Did you make that picture yourself, if so I am truley impressed. I await when your great ship will be for sale, I hope it will be soon.

So that's why the ISS Hamptonshire is a supply ship... :p Could be worse. It could have been a missile boat. :p

If Hampto-Sarzonian relations continue to improve, you may get an ISS Hamptonshire as one of the big brutes just yet. ;)

(OOC: What does TIoR have as a boat?)

OOC: A garbage scow? j/k

Rowboat. j/k

If you want to ask me questions about my naming convention, can we do so off this thread? It's rude of us to keep doing this on Prae's thread.

Length: 810m
Beam: 155mm
Draught: 21.6m

Wow a beam of only about 6 inches and stil all those weapons and missiles!!!! This is a certainly a revolutionary new type of vessel!! ;)

Isselmere: That's understandable and perfectly fine. Thanks.

The tokera: Thankyou. Yes, I did make the pic myself in MS Paint. There are
better line arters about though, such as Freethinkers, Soviet Bloc (although he
doesnt do an awful lot that I've seen) and Hogsweat is pretty damn good too.

TIoR: Hmmm... I might name a battleship after you. A nice big battleship, a
400m thingy.

TPM: Yes, the ship is in fact made to have 0 bow profile and appear like a
massive floating silicone wafer. :rolleyes:

*corrects typo*

Nice ship. Are you going to deploy it in Netherlands? Would be nice if we can have a SD showdown there.......

Which reminds me. 'Today' seemed to be taking longer than 48 hours..............

Nice ship. Are you going to deploy it in Netherlands? Would be nice if we can have a SD showdown there.......

Which reminds me. 'Today' seemed to be taking longer than 48 hours..............

Hm, would this be a good time to tell you guys that I have had a SD in development since december? *pokes*

I'll get a post up as soon as I rewrite the stats for my fighter, the forum swallowed it.

Nice ship. Are you going to deploy it in Netherlands? Would be nice if we can have a SD showdown there.......

Which reminds me. 'Today' seemed to be taking longer than 48 hours..............
I think deploying an SD to the Netherlands would be considered at home a massvie overreaction. Unless you deployed one there for some reason, that is.

I'm sending mine in to 'reinforce the Commonwealth forces there', quoting Senator Ivy Lai. The public will surely understand the government's decision to defend the Netherlands with her full force.......

Imperial Praetonian Navy - Imperial Class Refit Confirmed!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/IPBCBanner.png

"News was received from the Admiralty in Praeton today that the 7 Imperial Class Super Dreadnaughts definately would be going in for refit. One Government spokesmen had this to say on the matter when questioned by our reporters just after the announcement:

'We've been considering this for some time, after seeing the rise of more powerful foreign Super Dreadnaughts like the Isselmere-Neilander Europa Class and the Sarzonian Valiant Class. We gave brief consideration to a new class, but in the end we decided to keep the Imperial Class on with a substantial refit. They are truely excellent vessels - far exceeding our expectations in a way the Freedoms never did. They also have a lot of potential left, and we thought this was the fairest, most economical thing to do.'

"The vessels are due to keep their 25" armament as opposed to the 30" proposed in some quarters. Many prominent engineers and naval designers dislike the 30" gun, saying that it's too large, bulky and slow to be used properly in naval combat, and point to the increased rate of fire and barrel life offered by the 25". They also point to several occasions on which the Freethinker and Doujin Governments have openly admitted that the 30" gun was only there for 'political reasons'.

"The triple turrets are, however, due to be replaced by quadruple turrets, increasing the vessel's armament from the below-average 18 guns to an above average total of 24. It is estimated that, with the increased number of barrels, the overall weight of fire offered by the 25" gunned Imperials will be equal to the 30" gunned Valiants of the Incorporated Sarzonian Navy. The Government spokesmen we interviewed continued:

'The vessel will truely be a rival to the Doujin in a way the original Imperial and Freedom Classes never intended to be. We hope that we've created one of the most powerful ships on the face of the earth, and with seven vessels in service along with the 3 Freedom Class vessels currently in reserve we will certainly have one of the largest Super Dreadnaught fleets in the world.'

"The Government has also announced that the refit will significantly improve the vessel's secondary armament, with twelve dual 8" turrets scheduled to be fitted to respond to surface and large-scale aerial threats, along with ninety individually mounted 'triple-purpose' 57mm autocannon in sponson's along the ship's hull. The specially designed weapon is reported to be able to engage light surface, aerial and seak-skimming missile threats. Armour is also reported to be increased over several key areas, and an extra nuclear reactor is to be fitted to each vessel.

"In contrast, the Government has been slow to comment on the fate of the 42 working turrets, along with their 126 guns, also in working order, which will be removed from the Imperial Class. It is currently expected that the guns and turrets will be stored, and 'May be utilised at a later date.' Speculation has been growing about the possible commissioning of a new class, possibly of small "Pocker-Super Dreadnaughts" that will provide a more modern alternative to the ageing Freedom Class. Government sources have vehemently denied this, saying that the navy is a huge strain on the national budget as it is, and that an extra class of superdreadnaughts would be 'superfluous in the extreme'. The most likely outcome is that they will be incoporated into national coastal-defences, possibly around Praefele or Praeton Flumens.

"The Government has also been hesistant to speak out about the possibility of the Imperial Class or its refit being built by Imperial Praetonian Shipyards for export. An anonymous source inside Imperial Praetonian Shipyards said yesterday:

'Of course I would never support the sale of working ships, especially ones that have taken so much time and money to create, from our own navy, but I don't see anything wrong in building them for export. Both Isselmere-Neiland and Sarzonia offer modern Super Dreadnaughts for export, whilst all we have is the ageing Freedoms on offer."

"The Liberal-Imperialist Party remains fixed on this issue, however. The Government has consistently made it clear that although they acknowledge the harm this could be doing to the Praetonian warship export market, they will not tolerate the sale of highly advanced Praetonian military equipment to foreign powers.

"The move has, overall, been welcomed by the naval community and by the general public. In a recent poll, 78% of the population was found to be in support of increased funding of the navy even if it meant tax rises or cuts to Social Security. The first three vessels will go into dry-dock within the next month, with the remaining four vessels scheduled to be refitted within 4 years."

Refit Picture: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/Praetonia/ImperialClassSDRefit.png

At her weekly press conference with defence industry media outlets, Vice President for Naval Operations Kathy Bunhall was asked about the impending refit of the Imperial-class superdreadnaughts.

"Stacee Dale from the Portland Press Herald here. What is your reaction to the Praetonian government's announcement of the refit of the Imperial-class?"

Bunhall: "We congratulate our Praetonian brethren on creating an excellent ship, both in its original configuration and in its refit. Praetonia have long had an excellent naval tradition and ships like this are a prime example."

"Howard Walker from Nautilus Magazine here. What is your reaction to the Praetonian statement about their 25 inch guns compared to the 30 inch guns of the Vigilant?"

Bunhall: "It's all a matter of doctrine. We prefer a doctrine of heavier shot when compared to the smaller and faster firing Imperials. We are aware of the arguments and we're familiar with them. They've been taken into account in our own fleets as we look toward possible refits of our own."

"Madame Vice President, Jeff Burriss of the Portsmouth Pioneer-News here. With the recent rollout of the Glorious-class, is there anything in the works for the Independence-class?"

Bunhall: "You're going to have to ask Barbie [Rear Admiral Barbara Tucker] about that. We see the Independence as a successor to the Freedom-class superdreadnaughts we and Praetonia designed. We believe the Glorious and the Brandywine may herald a new era of ship design in their own right, as a true successor to the mantle held by the Freedom-class."

OOC: Great ship Praetonia, especially the refits, I'd buy some, but I have like no money.

*bump*

To:Praetonian Government
From: High Seas Fleet Command of Khailfah al Muslimeen
Topic: Sale of Imperial Class Super Dreadnaught

Dear Sirs
The KLM fleet would like to buy four Imperial Class Super Dreadnaught for the price of $700bn for these ships. When the order is confirm ,we will send the funds.

To: High Seas Fleet Command of Khailfah al Muslimeen
From: The Rt. Hon. Lucius Agrippa, MP
Prime Minister
Subject: Imperial Class Super Dreadnaught Purchase

Having examined your application to purchase 4 Imperial Class vessels, and having taken into account the long standing friendship between our two nations, I am pleased to be able to confirm your order for the 4 ships. In total, they will take 20 years to complete, with all ships being constructed at the same time in seperate yards. I wish to make it clear that the vessels are not for general sale, and your order has been approved only because our two nations have been long standing allies (a friendship which I am sure will continue long into the future). Once again thankyou for placing this valuable order for Praetonian industry, and I hope that the vessels will serve your navy well in future.

OOC: Another incredible creation from Prae...*drools* Man, how I wish I could buy one of these. Seeing as that's pretty much out of the question, though, I'd like to inquire as to the status of the Freedom-class SDs you're going to decommission. Might it be possible for us to purchase one or more of these vessels?

OOC: Another incredible creation from Prae...*drools* Man, how I wish I could buy one of these. Seeing as that's pretty much out of the question, though, I'd like to inquire as to the status of the Freedom-class SDs you're going to decommission. Might it be possible for us to purchase one or more of these vessels?
Well Im probably going to convert the Freedoms into 30" armed shore bombardment barges, but I might (well probably anyway) manufacture the Glorious Class for export, which is similar to the Imperial but smaller. Would you be interested in buying one of those? Link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422124

Well Im probably going to convert the Freedoms into 30" armed shore bombardment barges, but I might (well probably anyway) manufacture the Glorious Class for export, which is similar to the Imperial but smaller. Would you be interested in buying one of those? Link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422124

OOC: Intriguing. Yes, your Glorious-class looks quite formidable. I may end up purchasing one. Let me know if you change your mind on the Freedoms, though, as I'd gladly buy of them as well.

OOC: Well I could probably be persuaded to manufacture another Freedom for export, but I'd like to keep the actual 3 I have as mine for the time being.

OOC: Well I could probably be persuaded to manufacture another Freedom for export, but I'd like to keep the actual 3 I have as mine for the time being.

OOC: Thank you muchly. If you make another Freedom, we'll take it.

IC:

To: The Rt. Hon. Lucius Agrippa, MP
Prime Minister
From: Admiral Ben Cordell, Chief of Naval Operations, the Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Freedom-class Superdreadnaught Purchase

We would like to congratulate you on the successful release of your formidable Imperial-class superdreadnaught. We would purchase one, but as it is out of our reach (politically, but not financially, speaking), we are afraid we cannot. However, we were informed about the possibility of the Imperial Praetonian Shipyards manufacturing one more Freedom-class superdreadnaught for us. We greatly appreciate the offer, and graciously accept it. The Freedom-class will serve as the proud flagship of our navy, and we are honored to have a Praetonian vessel fill that role. We believe that the cost for the vessel was $125 billion, and we will wire this payment upon confirmation of the order. Once again, our sincerest thanks for offering us this opportunity.

Respectfully,
Admiral Ben Cordell
Chief of Naval Operations
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia

To: Admiral Ben Cordell, Chief of Naval Operations,
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
From: The Rt. Hon. Lucius Agrippa, MP,
Prime Minister
Subject: Freedom Class Superdreadnaught Purchase

I have received word from Imperial Praetonian Shipyards that in accordance with your wishes to purchase a Freedom Class Superdreadnaught, production of a single vessel will begin at once in the Lion Dock of the IPS Sattellite yards in Neo-Praetonia. I thankyou for your interest in our fine vessels, and I hope that your vessel (which will take 18 years to complete) will serve your navy to your satisfaction.

To: The Rt. Hon. Lucius Agrippa, MP,
Prime Minister
From: Admiral Ben Cordell, Chief of Naval Operations, The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia
Re: Freedom Class Superdreadnaught Purchase

The requisite payment has been wired. Again, our sincerest thanks. We look forward to doing business with you again soon.

Respectfully,
Admiral Ben Cordell
Chief of Naval Operations
The Democratic Republic of Halberdgardia