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Pz-5 Wolfbane Heavy Battle Tank

Intelligent Neighbors
06-03-2005, 13:28
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Specification A

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Specification B

History:
The huge success of the Pz-4 made it seem that nothing more could be done to improve tank design. Then came the Pz-5...

The Pz-5 is designed to be a heavy tank, surpassing others in armour and armament, but lacking in speed. Speed was not a necessity, as escorting Pz-4's could handle that. Featuring a weapons array rivaling that of four normal tanks, the Wolfbane is sure to send enemies running.

Description:

-CACS/DEITY BATTLEFIELD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM

The Pz-5 is fitted with the same CACS (Computer Aided Control System) as the Pz-4, but optimised for the new weapon loadout. Generation IV – Basic computer navigation of the vehicle, utilising navigational aids, weapon system control, group co-ordination. This means that the system communicates with other CACS systems, generation III or higher, so that navigational data, such as that from radar systems, can be exchanged for better situational awareness. Data can also be sent to Deity systems so that an entire battlefield can be viewed in one location from all the various devices used. 512-bit encryption is used to allow secure transmission between systems. Friend or Foe targeting allows the computer to carry out the warfare almost on its own, identifying enemy units and aiding allied units This is done by communicating with object, and if a friendly signal is detected then it is passed over – if an enemy signal, or no signal is detected then the object will be identified as a target to be destroyed by the system. There is a manual override to allow fire-lock and to do the targeting manually.

The Deity system is a battlefield wide system that takes all the data sent by the CACS and sorts and merges it. It then makes this information available to all systems that can use this data such as CACS, Warrior headsets, PHBVS and other such systems. This means that the tank can display locations of freindly units, as well as enemy units spotted by allies.

-ARMAMENT

Specification A
The primary weapon of the tank is a 145mm electro-thermal-chemical (ETC) gun, identical to the one that is installed on the Revenant MkIIU and the Pz-4.


The projectile is loaded into the barrel, behind which there is a "propellant", which is a dot of light metal (solid or liquid). A powerful electromagnetic force is applied to the metal, which causes its atoms to "switch" directions. This happens so violently that the metal turns to plasma, and this expanding gas then drives the projectile forward. The autoloader on this tank can fire at 15 rounds per minute (sustained) and 20 rounds per minute (theoretical max).

The cannon can rotate 360-degrees and has an elevation of +35 degrees and -10 degrees. The recommended range of the cannon is 4.8 miles with a maximimum of 5.8 miles (not very effective). The barrel is covered in a structure that dissapates heat to reduce IR signature considerably.

The rounds for this gun include: APFSDS, SCRAMjet, HEAT, HE, HESH, 'Balls of fire' rounds (ball bearing and napalm), and ATGM's.

Specification B

This uses a 6 barrel gas gun.

By compressing a chamber full of hydrogen with a weak railgun driven piston, then igniting the hydrogen, a projectile be moved at a little less the speed of sound in hydrogen (3.2km per second). The improved ammo capacity is due to the fact that all thats needed is a tank of hydrogen to propel the shell, making it completely caseless.

This technology, combined with tank development from Venom Defence engineers has resulted in an awesome tank killer weapon. Six 70mm gas guns are mounted in a circular shape, with a large hydrogen tank driving all of them. They are all loaded with shaped tungsten slugs, then when fired each gun fires one after the other, in extremely quick succession (takes .2 seconds to fire all six) at one point on the target, designated by a laser (the guns all can move slightly, allowing them to adjust to the correct distance). They all hit in rapid succession at over 2x the velocity of a normal shell.

This added velocity makes up for the smaller weight, as can be seen by the equation: KE= 0.5 x mass x (velocity x velocity). The slugs have more Kinetic Energy than a normal shell 140mm in diameter. Add to this the fact that all six slugs hit on the exact same spot on the armour at a very short interval, and penetration of the armour is almost guarenteed. The range is up to 15km.

Both
The commander’s weapon on top of the turret is a remotely controlled minigun with 6 12.7mm barrels putting out 2000 or 3000 RPM, making it an excellent anti-infantry and anti-helicopter weapon. The gun has been partially covered to reduce IR signature. The ammunition for this gun includes guided ammunition:

The spin of a normal round makes it difficult to hit a target with perfect precision. But venom defense have designed a system that can overcome this shortcoming with the use of two micromotors to deal with the spinning and stationary sections of the bullet separately. Resulting from this innovation, bullet can alter the projected path of the bullet in accordance with the location of the target by moving the non-moving head of the bullet to make it point in different directions. In addition, the intense kinetic energy of the spinning portion boosts the effects of impact thus making the round more destructive.

The rounds will be cost effective as they will be manufactured with standard materials. Further reducing the cost is the fact that bullets will not require an internal seeker to be effective, the gun just needs to have a small invisi-laser pointer. Accuracy is a result of the actual system and the bullet together, not just the bullet by itself. Last but not least, these rounds are compatible with current gun systems.

The coaxial weapons are dual 12.7mm machineguns, specially suited for anti-infantry work.

On top of the turret, there is a small 'pop-up' box, holding two Awe King SAM missiles. Upon detection of enemy aircraft the CACS system pops the box up and fires at the target. When both missiles are used, the box dropps down into the turret and is reloaded. There are only 4 missiles for this feature stored within the tank usually.

In addition, there is a duel 40mm mortar system in the tank, this saves valuable ammunition in a firefight and gives a top attack capability allowing the tank to fire over obstacles. The duel system allows for a higher ROF to keep infantry under cover. This is coupled to the CACS system for automatic targetting.

There is also a small 7.6mm MG on each side of the tank, these are fully controlled by the CACS system and fire upon targets to the front and sides.

-ARMOUR

The Pz-5 uses multiple armour types, including Triada, LASH and composite.

LASH: The first layer is a titanium-aluminium alloy, very hard and brittle, but with a film on the inside that will hold the fragments in place after a hit. The second layer is a dilatant liquid (the more pressure you apply, the tougher it is) inside multiple compartments. This helps aid the prevention of the penetration of SABOT rounds. The next layer is an extremely heat resistant foam, stopping HEAT warheads burning through. The final layer is a titanium-aluminium alloy, with carbon fibres extending through it.

The LASH is present over the entire turret, and on the front and sides of the hull.

Triada: This armour is composed of the following layers: the first is a self-healing layer, similar to that in the Triad Armour; the second layer is a thin layer of a titanium-aluminium alloy; the third is a layer of Depleted Uranium, increasing the protection of the tank; the fourth layer is a titanium-aluminium alloy, threaded with carbon-whiskers; the fith layer is composed of a carbon-silicon nano-mesh that will seriously slow down any bullets that penetrate the first four layers.

The Triada is present on the turret and the front section of the hull.

Optional AERA: With the AERA-II 3rd Gen. ERA system, the primary layer ignites outwards with the second layer following behind after a certain time-delay nearly doubling the effectiveness of the system. The primary layer ignites when a proximity sensor/network detects an object with projectile-like movement coming towards the tank, then using an onboard supercomputer it quickly calculates the variables of tank speed, tank heading, projectile speed, projectile heading, wind, weather and projectile altitude to determine where the projectile is to hit... Upon finishing the calculations (with plenty of seconds to spare before the round hits), the computer activates a 3-5 ERA block area (made of primary layers) to ignite at a set time with the second layer following after. An auxilary system, although not as effective, works to ignite the ERA blocks upon contact with a high-speed projectile...

Optional Kaktus ERA: Kaktus ERA can also be installed. This system uses the idea of plates of metal sliding sideways upon impact, increasing the amount of metal the HEAT warhead has to burn through. In addition, this rapid action has been known to split APFS rounds in two.

-COUNTERMEASURES

The Pz-5 has standard flare/chaff pods, in addition to 16 81mm grenade launchers on the turret.

There are several jamming systems to attempt to stop missiles, as well as linking the CACS system with the commanders gun to allow automatic firing on enemy infantry threats. The SAM pod and the 80mm mortar are also linked.

There is an extensive NBC protection system to help the crew and equipment to survive EMP pulses and radiation, as well as toxic chemicals.

-ENGINES

The Pz-5 is equipped with hydrogen fuel cell engine providing 2,600hp at 3,400rpm. The engine provides a road speed of 32mph and cross country speed up to 25mph.

The tank also has a Turbomeca TM-307B gas turbine auxiliary power unit to provide power when the engine is switched off.

-AUTOLOADER

Specification A
The Pz-5 uses the perfected TL-M-50 auto-loader as seen in the Pz-4. This autoloader does not require the cannon to be brought down to a horizontal position but instead follows the cannon up and uses a variable drive assembly system to load the shell into the cannon's chamber at any elevation. This auto-loader only has a ready-rack of about six rounds which is then fed by a 'chain-link drive' to the ammunition storage compartment. Each time a shell is fired and one is loaded into the weapon, the armored partition (between the ammo storage compartment and interior of turret) opens, a hydraulic arm pushes the shell onto a 'plate' which then runs the shell to the auto-loader ready-rack. The auto-loader can also load a barrel-fired ATGM providing that a crew member put the weapon on the rack and designate its firing properties.

Statistics:

Crew: 3
Armament:
A: 1- 145mm ETC Rifled Cannon
ROF: 16 per minute
B: 1- Six barrelled Gas Gun
ROF: 120 shots per minute (20 rounds)
Both: 1- 6 barrel minigun, 2- 12.7mm MG, 2- 7.6mm MG, 2- 40mm mortars, 1- SAM launcher and 16 grenade launchers.

Armour: LASH, Triada, Composite, AERA, Kaktus ERA (3600mm RHA protection against HEAT [inc. 800mm AERA/Kaktus ERA protection], 1800mm against APFS SABOT).

Dimensions:
length (gun forwards) 11.6 m
length (over hull) 8.8 m
width 4.1 m
height 3.6 m
ground clearance 480 mm
Ford Depth: 1.8m

Weight: 78 tons
Speed: Max 32 mph
Range: 280 miles

Cost
$22,000,000
United Clan Kinsmen
06-03-2005, 14:35
Tthe Proud and Free Peoples of the Federation of United Clan Kinsmen are happy and eager to announce that we are ready and willing to distribute (at cost plus 20%) large quantities of the improved model M-48 YakPanzer to member states of The Darth Alliance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/jadodge/M-48YakPanzer.bmp

Thtis model is equipped with the standard gravity repulsar lift/drive, 150mm rail-gun, 2- 20 mm multi-purpose chain guns, and 200mm thick depleted iridium base armor clad in 25mm reactive sheathing.

Cost per unit supplied on request. ;)
Lachenburg
06-03-2005, 16:54
My associates and I at the Department of National Defense are quite impressed by this amazing weapon and wish to purchase 2,000 of these tanks (1,000 Spec A, 1,000 Spec B) for further use in our own Armored and Mechanized Infantry Divisions.

The total alotted cost of 44 Billion USD shall be wired to your nation's financial assets upon the confirmation of this order.

Signed,

Francias Apletion
Direteur de Defense
Confederacy Unie de Lachenburg
Intelligent Neighbors
06-03-2005, 17:04
*Laughs at United Clan Kinsmen and his tank*

Whatever you say, now get outa this thread! Please.

Lachenburg: Confirmed, even though that is a lot of tanks. For your standard tank I would use the Pz-4 Jager-Morder (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=34) a much more rounded tank. This tank is best used to hold up enemy tank divisions for a while.
AfrikaZkorps
06-03-2005, 17:40
OOC: You woudln't mind presenting this at the Armour Research Conference would you? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=402565
Nargopia
06-03-2005, 17:45
Nargopia wishes to purchase 200 of the Pz-4 Jager-Morder Tanks and 50 of the Spec-B Pz-5 Tanks.
KHAAAAN
06-03-2005, 17:49
The Dominion in the current economic climate would request 1 Wolfbane (specB) for peacekeeping purposes.
Dracun imperium
06-03-2005, 18:21
We would like to make this our front line tank and replace the already outdated Challenger II Tank. We would like to purchase production rights for it. Prices are quite neogitatable.
Lachenburg
06-03-2005, 18:53
*Laughs at United Clan Kinsmen and his tank*

Whatever you say, now get outa this thread! Please.

Lachenburg: Confirmed, even though that is a lot of tanks. For your standard tank I would use the Pz-4 Jager-Morder (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=34) a much more rounded tank. This tank is best used to hold up enemy tank divisions for a while.

We already have purchased nearly 1000 Pz-4 units, but we will trust the word of your advisors and and re-adjust our purchase, if you do not mind, from 2,000 Pz-5 Tanks to 1,500 Pz-4 Tanks and 500 Pz-5 Tanks (250 Spec-A and 250 Spec-B) for the same price of 44 Billion USD.

This purchase is intended to replace our ailing arsenal of T-3 and T-2 Main Battle Tanks that currently make up the majority of our Armored forces, thus explaining the rather large scope of this purchase.

We wish to apologize for our mistake and we can assure you that further purchases made by our government will not be conducted in this fashion.

Signed,

Francias Apletion
Direteur de Defense
Confederacy Unie de Lachenburg
United Clan Kinsmen
06-03-2005, 22:32
*Laughs at United Clan Kinsmen and his tank*

Whatever you say, now get outa this thread! Please.

.

Blow it out your ear/bunghole :upyours:
United Clan Kinsmen
06-03-2005, 22:40
The M-44E5.
http://david-drake.com/HSHandbook/101125000304.jpg
Intelligent Neighbors
07-03-2005, 11:04
We already have purchased nearly 1000 Pz-4 units, but we will trust the word of your advisors and and re-adjust our purchase, if you do not mind, from 2,000 Pz-5 Tanks to 1,500 Pz-4 Tanks and 500 Pz-5 Tanks (250 Spec-A and 250 Spec-B) for the same price of 44 Billion USD.

This purchase is intended to replace our ailing arsenal of T-3 and T-2 Main Battle Tanks that currently make up the majority of our Armored forces, thus explaining the rather large scope of this purchase.

We wish to apologize for our mistake and we can assure you that further purchases made by our government will not be conducted in this fashion.

Signed,

Francias Apletion
Direteur de Defense
Confederacy Unie de Lachenburg

OOC: No problem, I wasn't pointing out a mistake, I was merely providing free advice.

IC: ALL orders confirmed, the items will be sent as soon as possible.
Intelligent Neighbors
07-03-2005, 11:08
Blow it out your ear/bunghole :upyours:

*sigh*

Listen, you do not seem to have grasped the simple rules of this forum. First, this is a thread for the sale of my tank, please start your own thread and stop hijacking others. Second, you are rude an uncouth, please take your 'clever hard man' insults and smilies elsewhere, they do not intimidate me in the slightest.

Please delete your posts above into something more appropriate, or I shall inform the moderators of you actions.

Regards,
Intelligent Neighbors

PS: Your tank is future tech, and poor future tech at that. My tank is modern tech, and still better than yours. Before selling you may wish to improve it somewhat, expand on the description and statistics.
Intelligent Neighbors
07-03-2005, 11:38
We would like to make this our front line tank and replace the already outdated Challenger II Tank. We would like to purchase production rights for it. Prices are quite neogitatable.

The production rights include:
-Hull Design
-Turret Structure Design
-Electronics
-Gun(s) Ammunition (Including Guided ammo)
-Specification A Gun Design
-LASH Armour Design
-SAM system
-Mortar System
-Machine/mini guns
-Kaktus ERA
-Engine

They do not include however:
-Autoloader design ($140,000)
-CACS Design ($80,000)
-Diety System ($80,000)
-Specification B gas guns ($100,000 x 6 = $600,000)
-Triada armour ($100,000)
-AERA-II armour ($100,000)

(Total: $1,100,000 per tank)

In other words you can make all the stuff in the top list yourself, but the other items will need to be supplied by me. You obviously cannot sell any of the tanks/equipment or use the technology in your own designs without purchasing patents. By purchasing the production rights ($22,000,000,000) each tank you build will only cost $600,000 plus how much you can get the other materials for.

You can purchase the prod. rights if you wish.
Tocrowkia
07-03-2005, 11:45
We'll buy 1,000.
Intelligent Neighbors
07-03-2005, 20:07
Ok, confirmed.
Einhauser
07-03-2005, 20:23
In accordance with our plan to increase the size of our military forces, we would like to purchase the production rights for the agreeed price. Money will be provided via wire from our banks and defense fund.
Einhauser
07-03-2005, 21:15
Are the rights not for sale any longer, or have you just lost interest?
United Clan Kinsmen
07-03-2005, 23:44
up yours
Einhauser
07-03-2005, 23:53
seriously clan, thats really stupid.
Verdant Archipelago
07-03-2005, 23:59
PS: Your tank is future tech, and poor future tech at that. My tank is modern tech, and still better than yours. Before selling you may wish to improve it somewhat, expand on the description and statistics.

Calling yours moiderntech is going a bit far. You haven't dealt adiquitly with the massive recoil problems with the gasguns, your rates of fire for the main gun and the gas gun are... high to say the least. The description of your reactive armor makes it impossible (not enough time for all those calculations when you have a HEAT round incoming) and I suggest you modify your armor package. Your sensor packages and AI are way beyond moderntech, and SCRAMJET rounds are just as bad.

Just a note... HEAT shells don't burn through armor, they use a shaped charge to focuse a blast, forming a thin jet of superheated metal going at about 6km/s

Sorry... just reread this. It's a bit rude... I appologise, but I'm in a tearing hurry. Lots of things I like about the design too...
Intelligent Neighbors
08-03-2005, 13:58
It is modern tech, everything on it could be produced now, if a nation wished. Gas guns are used in laboratories around the world, plus, the recoil is still present, but due to the fact that opposite guns fire after each other the movement of the gun is minimal. The autoloader on the main gun (as well as the AERA) is technology developed by The Armed Republic Of Soviet Bloc, one of the most respected technology developers, as is the tech designed by Pheonixius ('AI' and sensors). Take it up with them and the hundreds of other developers who use similar systems.

I know how HEAT shells work, they melt through the armour, perhaps burn was a bad choice of word, I did not mean that they combust the metal.

Thanks for your criticism.

Einhauser: confirmesd, sorry I was busy. The Pz-4 can be found here (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=34), as can many other of my products. The information on prod. rights is detailed above.

EVERYONE PURCHASING THIS VEHICLE WILL RECIEVE FREE UPDATES WHEN THEY ARRIVE.
Einhauser
08-03-2005, 19:21
Thnak you. Plus verdant, the French already have an autoloader on one of their MBTs. Its not just an NS invention.
Verdant Archipelago
09-03-2005, 02:31
It is modern tech, everything on it could be produced now, if a nation wished. Gas guns are used in laboratories around the world, plus, the recoil is still present, but due to the fact that opposite guns fire after each other the movement of the gun is minimal. The autoloader on the main gun (as well as the AERA) is technology developed by The Armed Republic Of Soviet Bloc, one of the most respected technology developers, as is the tech designed by Pheonixius ('AI' and sensors). Take it up with them and the hundreds of other developers who use similar systems.

I know how HEAT shells work, they melt through the armour, perhaps burn was a bad choice of word, I did not mean that they combust the metal.

Thanks for your criticism.

Einhauser: confirmesd, sorry I was busy. The Pz-4 can be found here (http://s7.invisionfree.com/Venom_Defense/index.php?showtopic=34), as can many other of my products. The information on prod. rights is detailed above.

EVERYONE PURCHASING THIS VEHICLE WILL RECIEVE FREE UPDATES WHEN THEY ARRIVE.

Gas guns are used in laboratories. They don't have the rates of fire you state. And since each shell from the gas gun has more kinetic energy than a standard 140mm high velocity round, it also has more recoil. The combined recoil of firing all six barrels in such quick succession would quite litterally flip the tank. We're talking about 10 times the energy transfer to the hull as when an Abrams fires it's main gun.

The autoloader... I've had experience with Soviet Bloc. I tend to ignore most of his stuff as it is almost all past 2020. (I used to be Chardonay, currently, I'm a member of the OMP, and advise a number of major arms designers on NS including Praetonia, Freethinkers, and Sarzonia). Any system that can fire a 120mm shell every three seconds with an autoloader that can fit in a tank is far and away in advance of anything today. I think. If I'm wrong, please let me know and I'll update my vehicles =) Currently, human loaders actually have superior rates of fire to autoloaders, at least for relatively large caliber weapons. I'm not saying the autoloader is impossible... but I doubt you could fit it on a tank, it's simply too bulky and mass intensive.

AS for Phoenixus, I used to be tech advisor in his region, and a lot of his stuff is impossible given current tech... I didn't try to convince him that his old equipment was impossible, but I did discourage him from making tesla guns, walkers, and subfighters.

Er, that's not quite how HEAT shells work. They don't melt the armor they hit. They penetrate. The entire process is too fast for there to be any appreciable heat transfer or thermal shock until after penetration has already occured. THe metal jet doesn't even really melt, it's simply deformed by the intense pressure of the explosion.

Einhouser: yes, I know autoloaders exist. There are autoloaders in T-72s. I just dislike them because it's hard to switch ammo, they tend to malfunction, and when they do jam, they tend to do so spectacularly. And 18 year olds with strong arms are faster, cheaper, and more easily replacible.
Intelligent Neighbors
09-03-2005, 13:09
Gas guns are used in laboratories. They don't have the rates of fire you state. And since each shell from the gas gun has more kinetic energy than a standard 140mm high velocity round, it also has more recoil. The combined recoil of firing all six barrels in such quick succession would quite litterally flip the tank. We're talking about 10 times the energy transfer to the hull as when an Abrams fires it's main gun.

Yes, but there are several other factors:
a) Gas gun does not (cannot) fire a barrage of six shells on the move, it has to be still to fire a barrage of six.
b) The counterweight anti-recoil system and the shock absorbing system reduces the kick of the guhns considerably.
c) The tank is very heavy, and a lot of weight is in the front (front based engine).
d) The energy transfer would be roughly 6 times a 140mm cannon firing.

The autoloader... I've had experience with Soviet Bloc. I tend to ignore most of his stuff as it is almost all past 2020. (I used to be Chardonay, currently, I'm a member of the OMP, and advise a number of major arms designers on NS including Praetonia, Freethinkers, and Sarzonia). Any system that can fire a 120mm shell every three seconds with an autoloader that can fit in a tank is far and away in advance of anything today. I think. If I'm wrong, please let me know and I'll update my vehicles =) Currently, human loaders actually have superior rates of fire to autoloaders, at least for relatively large caliber weapons. I'm not saying the autoloader is impossible... but I doubt you could fit it on a tank, it's simply too bulky and mass intensive.


Yes, but this tank is very large and heavy, most of the weight is the internal components, as the armour is lightweight in comparison to many tank armour types. The autoloader is possible, all that limits current systems in manufacturing capability, and as I am quite a large nation (~2.3 billion) it is possible. Yes, I have heard of Chardonnay, you used to have an international mall storefront. I always thought your ideas were very advanced. My tank here is 2015 tech really. Also, it fires a 140mm shell.

Again, thanks for your advice, perhaps we could jointly design a tank sometime?
Verdant Archipelago
09-03-2005, 17:27
I would love to do a project with you =)

This will be my last post in the thread... if you want to continue the debate, TG me for my IM.

Anti recoil systems and counterweights don't actually reduce the energy of the recoil, they reduce the power, spreading the energy out over a longer time. Given the increased power of your shells and the high rates of fire, either the energy will not have disapated by the time you fire the next salvo, or the tank flips. Though your vehicle is heavy (something I was going to comment on... it's not going to be able to cross bridges), it isn't 6 times as heavy as a modern MTB.

The abrams fires a 120mm shell. Your gasguns fire six shells with the KE of a 140mm shell. SInce a 120mm shell actually masses less than two thirds the mass of an equivelent 140mm shell, my statement that there would be 10 times the recoil is fudging the numbers in your favor =)

I also fail to see how your armour can be lightweight and still twice as effective as modern tank armour...

The autoloader... it depends. YOu say it has a ready fire ammunition store of 6 shells. I could accept that you could fire off those six at a rate of one every three seconds. That's reasonable. But that you could fire off six shells, reload the ready ammunition store, fire off another six shells, reload the autoloader, and fire off another six shells, reload the autoloader, and begin firing off ANOTHER six shells in one minute is streatching the imagination.

FInally, the hydrogen fuel cell engine... read this
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8395492#post8395492

The size of your nation isn't really relevant. Israel has some of the best tanks in the world, and she only has a population of 6 million. America is 40 times bigger, but I'd take the Merkava IV over the M1A2. Yes, you could build this tank if you devoted lots of research and money to it... but then it wouldn't be modern tech any more. I'm sure if your nation put in enough resources, it could come up with a functional AT laser that would fit on a humvee... but that's not moderntech either. Or a workable scramjet fighter, but that's not moderntech. I'm sure you would ignore a vehicle designed by a 4 billion nation that was armoured with a carbon nanotube matrix, had a railgun, and an antiaircraft laser. Lasers, railguns, and carbon nanotubes all exist today... but the tank is definately 2050.
Intelligent Neighbors
09-03-2005, 20:18
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