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I’ve had this idea in my idea for a while now so here it goes:

Unlike some past WWII RP’s there will be no space ships or anything like that. The only changes are in the way some historical events end.

It starts in late 1943 in a very different world, one where Germany and Russia remain strong partners, pro-Nazi uprisings are erupting in South America, and the British fight to subdue a Nazi sponsored rebellion in Ireland. The major changes are as follows:


1940
May 20: “Massacre at Dunkirk” occurs after German troops surround British and French troops attempting to flee at French town of Dunkirk.

1941
June 22: Hitler and Stalin launch joint-operation Verlassen Sie Sturm, the invasion of the Turkey and Vichy Syria.
August 5: Remaining Turkish army surrenders.
November 17: German General Rommel enters Baghdad, securing a source of oil for the Axis.

1942
February 20: Argentina and Paraguay join the Axis after nearly 15 million dollars worth of investment is promised to both nations.
June 4: Japanese Navy resoundingly victorious at Battle of Midway— The U.S. carriers Hornet and Yorktown are destroy and Enterprise is crippled.
July 16: Japanese declares the American garrison at Midway conquered.
December 25: Irish rebels, supplied arms by the Nazis, declare independence from Great Britain.

1943
July 17: Two divisions of German troops enter Buenos Aires by request of the government.

For those of you who are more historically/tactially challenged, what this means is that the Nazi and allies basically control Europe, have a foothold in South America, and the Japanese have delayed (but most likely not stopped) major U.S. Navel operations.

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Nations Already Taken:
Europe:
Germany: Kordo
Italy: Tomzilla
UK: Certe
French Resistance: Yafor 2
Vatican: HardNippledom
Hungary: Polskay
Sweden: Greater Taiwan

Asia/Australia:
New Zealand: Harlesburg
Japan: Gilabad

North America:
United States: Sharina
Mexico: Relative Liberty
Cuba: Eternal Dragon DPRK

South America:
Colombia: Buben
Venezuela: Vladachek
Argentina: FeDeRania

Africa:

Invasion of Turkey?

And Iraq? Unless Comrade Stalin helped out, Turkey, along with British ruled Iraq, would likely repel such an Invasion, and even if Stalin did tag along, it would be disastrously heavy casualties for both sides.

can i take the 8th army?
Desert Rats!

I would like to play Argentina.

Actually. An invasion from Bulgaria and Greece into Turkey by Nazi Germany, would have quickly destroyed Turkey. Turkey's army is nothing to be impressed with or brag about.

Iraq, like Egypt, had Nazi sympathizers in it, willing to join Nazi Germany in order to break free of British rule. They both believed Germany would liberate them and make them their own nation. Similar to how the Germans did in Croatia.

On top of which. British forces in Iraq were pittiful. British forces had to deal with Italy. Italy was horrible in terms of military, but the British would have to carefully corrdinate their efforts in order to prevent the Italians from gaining the upperhand, while trying to stop Rommel from getting to Bagdad.

Also!

I wish to play the Soviet Union!

what're comrade Stalin and the reds up to? Are they just chillin?

Actually. An invasion from Bulgaria and Greece into Turkey by Nazi Germany, would have quickly destroyed Turkey. Turkey's army is nothing to be impressed with or brag about.

Iraq, like Egypt, had Nazi sympathizers in it, willing to join Nazi Germany in order to break free of British rule. They both believed Germany would liberate them and make them their own nation. Similar to how the Germans did in Croatia.

On top of which. British forces in Iraq were pittiful. British forces had to deal with Italy. Italy was horrible in terms of military, but the British would have to carefully corrdinate their efforts in order to prevent the Italians from gaining the upperhand, while trying to stop Rommel from getting to Bagdad.

Also!

I wish to play the Soviet Union!

The Turkish Army was indeed a wreck, but that does not matter. When faced with that kind of aggression, a nation can very easily create a powerfull military force in next to no time.

Turkey had modern telegraph lines, any invasion would be across the country within an hour, and then that would unite the country against Germany.

Turkey had and has massive manpower to draw from, and a fairly strong economy.

Turkey had, let us estimate, about 90 million people at the time? I don't think Germany would have made much headway without the union.

And the only reason there were Nazi sympatheizers in Iraq was because some people are just crazy, and because the Germans were fighting the British, who they did not like.

Do you think they would have preffered German rule, espicially German rule by a goverment who's stated posistion was for aryan supremacy?

I have a feeling not, my friend.

I would love to join as one of the Pro-German states in S.E. Europe, perhaps Romania or Bulgaria.

And the only reason there were Nazi sympatheizers in Iraq was because some people are just crazy, and because the Germans were fighting the British, who they did not like.

Do you think they would have preffered German rule, espicially German rule by a goverment who's stated posistion was for aryan supremacy?

I have a feeling not, my friend.

I'm not suggesting that Iraq joins Germany my friend, mearly that it becomes a client state or something similir. After all in RL on April 3 1941, a certain Rasid Ali overthowed the pro-British government and asked for German assistence, while mind you they themselves were overthrown by British forces in May. This is signifacant because not only did they have enough power to take control of the country in the first place, they were defeated by British forces, not the Vichy French forces in Iraq.


I would love to join as one of the Pro-German states in S.E. Europe, perhaps Romania or Bulgaria.

Take your pick.

can i take the 8th army?
Desert Rats!

Please choose a specific nation, not a army.

Positions still open!

I shall play Japan or perhaps China........Either be china and do some kind of coup...Or play Japan in its battle against America....

Anyway because my knowledge of WW2 is not particularly amazing....I would prefer it if you can supply me with stats on their Economy, armed forces, bases, complete political overview etc......

On a side note, I would also like to know the exact lands owned by Japan...If I choose or am accepted to play them of course....

Unless Eternal Dragon DPRK really wants Japan... I wouldn't mind taking them... if he wants Japan really bad then if Russia allows me... I could play the Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania partisons and help them in there fight... if not... then I'll play Ireland

I would like to particapate i would love to be Ireland/Irish rebels.

I would like to play the United States.

I want to try a different USA spin, as I love alternate history scenarios. I want to see what I can do with the USA, see if I can turn it into an empire or a cesspool of pacifists. :p

May I have Japan? Note: If Japan is already claimed, I shall take Italy.

I'll take the UK.

Bulgaria it is.

I'm assuimg troops are as follows, according to historical reports:

16 infantry divisions, one cavalry division, two cavalry brigades, one armoured brigade, and two brigades of border guards, four old torpedo-boats, two motor torpedo boats, and two training sailing-ships, 300 combat aircraft, 10 seaplanes, nine military airfields, two naval air bases, and two aircraft manufacturing facilities.

If you dont mind, Ill play Fascist Italy.

Take a look at the second to last post on Page 1.

I'll take China, if China is taken I'll take the Middle Eastern resistance.

Take a look at the second to last post on Page 1.

Doesn't look like anyone has taken Japan yet, but if someone does Ill rightfully abandon my claim and RP another faction.

Okay

May I play as Korea or China. I'd love to kill a few political leaders in Japan but first explain to me as i am only a newby. How does it work and where is it posted
:eek: :sniper:

ill be Germany. and if that is taken ill be France. is there a link or will it be done in NS forums?

ill be Germany. and if that is taken ill be France. is there a link or will it be done in NS forums?

Germany is already taken check the first post! As for France: Do you want to control Vichy France, or the French Resistance?

The following RL nations have been given to the following NS nations:

Japan: East Lithuania
Irish: Comunisticturkeys
United States: Sharina
Italy: Tomzilla
UK: Certe
Bulgaria: Novikov
China: Gilabad

Have a complaint? Want to seced control of your RL nation to someone else? Did I accidentily skip your post? Feel free to tell me! Oh, and the real thread will be coming soon!

Can I take the other France, depending on what Surperier takes? I'll take either.

nevermind ill be Canada. If that is ok.

Then I'll be the French Resistance, it that's ok.

Surperier gets canda and Yafor 2 gets the french resistance.

Germany is already taken check the first post! As for France: Do you want to control Vichy France, or the French Resistance?

The following RL nations have been given to the following NS nations:

Japan: East Lithuania
Irish: Comunisticturkeys
United States: Sharina
Italy: Tomzilla
UK: Certe
Bulgaria: Novikov
China: Gilabad

Have a complaint? Want to seced control of your RL nation to someone else? Did I accidentily skip your post? Feel free to tell me! Oh, and the real thread will be coming soon!

OOC: So you reject my claims.......If so I will perhaps play Cuba or North Korea.

I want to be Mexico!

Since Italy has already been taken, Ill claim The Union of South Africa.

I'll be Brazil.

Sweet. This might actually go somewhere. Please post a link to the real thread here when you get one up.

I'd like to be the vatican or spain. Vatican is first choice.

Thank you

OOC: So you reject my claims.......If so I will perhaps play Cuba or North Korea.

Sorry about that. I did not really mean to skip you. You can have Cuba though if you want it!


Cuba: Eternal Dragon DPRK
Mexico: Relative Liberty
South Africa: Lachenburg
Brazil: Bolivariana
Vatican: HardNippledom

I'd like to be the vatican or spain. Vatican is first choice.

Thank you
The Vatican?! Are you going to throw an 82 year old pope at us (no offense ment, catholics)?

Thats what I was thinking, but whatever.

Link to RP added!

weres the link?

http://s9.invisionfree.com/Alternate_WWII/index.php?act=idx

If anyone has any suggestions/problems with the board post them here!

Come on guys the Pope could be a powerful ally in this war with what he says and what he dosen't. This would really be shown if you have a large Catholic population Latin america eastern europe Spain Germany.

Come on guys the Pope could be a powerful ally in this war with what he says and what he dosen't. This would really be shown if you have a large Catholic population Latin america eastern europe Spain Germany.

Lol mainly on somewhere like cuba....Shall i be batista, or create my own political leader..?

Ok, I just thought I'd post some numbers on the Soviet Red Army to see what you all think. I'm using technology here. I looked on the sites, and since most of the Soviet high tech stuff came AFTER the Germans attacked, I've had to go with what I got:

Soviet Red Army
23,000,000 Infantry
4,000 T-60 Light Tank
8,200 T-70 Light Tank
2,000 BT-7 fast tank
1,500 T-34 (relativly new to the Soviet Armies)

Weapons of the Red Army
Tokarev SVT40- Used by most Soviet Infantry
PTRS-41- Anti-Tank Rifle used by Soviet Infantry
PPS-43- Submachine Gun used by the Soviet Infantry

(Remarkably, and I didn't know this, the AK-47 was never widely used in WW2!)

I'm having a lot of trouble getting ANY type of numbers on Aircraft Numbers or Naval Numbers on the Soviet Union. Any chance one of you could help me?

Ok, I just thought I'd post some numbers on the Soviet Red Army to see what you all think. I'm using technology here. I looked on the sites, and since most of the Soviet high tech stuff came AFTER the Germans attacked, I've had to go with what I got:

Soviet Red Army
23,000,000 Infantry
4,000 T-60 Light Tank
8,200 T-70 Light Tank
2,000 BT-7 fast tank
1,500 T-34 (relativly new to the Soviet Armies)

Weapons of the Red Army
Tokarev SVT40- Used by most Soviet Infantry
PTRS-41- Anti-Tank Rifle used by Soviet Infantry
PPS-43- Submachine Gun used by the Soviet Infantry

(Remarkably, and I didn't know this, the AK-47 was never widely used in WW2!)

I'm having a lot of trouble getting ANY type of numbers on Aircraft Numbers or Naval Numbers on the Soviet Union. Any chance one of you could help me?
http://www.angelfire.com/ct/ww2europe/index.html

WTF???
Turkey would have been/Was Pro German

EDIT:
So did Italy invade Africa/Egypt?
Can we assume Rommel went thru Turkey to get to Baghdad/Iraq opposed to going thru Egypt.
What is the position of Spain,Gibraltar,Malta,Crete the Balkans(Fair to assume they have been subdued)?

The Food Basket of the British Empire New Zealand and Australia must certainly be cut off with South Americas position.

8th Army would surely not exist as is likely of Britain.
The Turkish front would be 1/10 the size(if not more)of the Russian front Turkey also having little Factories to sustsin a long defence from a 2 pronged attack hence their easy defeat.

November 17: German General Rommel enters Baghdad, securing a source of oil for the Axis.-Good Day. ;)

As a result Operation Sealion would have been launched easily.
Tommy Kaput!

Your thoughts?

I'll be Australlia.

Id like to join as Switzerland

Iraq was pro-German and should German troops egt anywhere near Iraq, it would declare independence. Also Turkey was not pro-German. Infact they were more leaned to the Allies, they were just affraid to join the war.

Ok, I just thought I'd post some numbers on the Soviet Red Army to see what you all think. I'm using technology here. I looked on the sites, and since most of the Soviet high tech stuff came AFTER the Germans attacked, I've had to go with what I got:

Soviet Red Army
23,000,000 Infantry
4,000 T-60 Light Tank
8,200 T-70 Light Tank
2,000 BT-7 fast tank
1,500 T-34 (relativly new to the Soviet Armies)

Weapons of the Red Army
Tokarev SVT40- Used by most Soviet Infantry
PTRS-41- Anti-Tank Rifle used by Soviet Infantry
PPS-43- Submachine Gun used by the Soviet Infantry

(Remarkably, and I didn't know this, the AK-47 was never widely used in WW2!)

I'm having a lot of trouble getting ANY type of numbers on Aircraft Numbers or Naval Numbers on the Soviet Union. Any chance one of you could help me?

I always thought the AK-47 was design 1947.

Actually, the most widely used rifle was the mosin-nagant. The Tokarev, while semi-automatic, took awhile to train a soldier how to use it. The REd Army didn't want to waste time so they give them the easier-to-use bolt action mosin-nagant.

WTF???
Turkey would have been/Was Pro German

EDIT:
So did Italy invade Africa/Egypt?
Can we assume Rommel went thru Turkey to get to Baghdad/Iraq opposed to going thru Egypt.
What is the position of Spain,Gibraltar,Malta,Crete the Balkans(Fair to assume they have been subdued)?

The Food Basket of the British Empire New Zealand and Australia must certainly be cut off with South Americas position.

8th Army would surely not exist as is likely of Britain.
The Turkish front would be 1/10 the size(if not more)of the Russian front Turkey also having little Factories to sustsin a long defence from a 2 pronged attack hence their easy defeat.

November 17: German General Rommel enters Baghdad, securing a source of oil for the Axis.-Good Day. ;)

As a result Operation Sealion would have been launched easily.
Tommy Kaput!

Your thoughts?


Right. Did the Japanese win at the Kokoda Trail? How did my attack at North Africa go?

Actually, the most widely used rifle was the mosin-nagant. The Tokarev, while semi-automatic, took awhile to train a soldier how to use it. The REd Army didn't want to waste time so they give them the easier-to-use bolt action mosin-nagant.

True, but then at that time the Germans were rushing across Russia. Though in this game, I've had time to let my forces train with it.

Thats why, when dealing with the USSR, it's kinda weird in Alternate-History. Cause the USSR created a whole bunch of weapons and technology after getting invaded by Germany, so it's hard to say what would have happened.

Since Hitler and Stalin are basically "allies" in this game. Maybe the Soviets got some German technology and blueprints. It could have spead up a lot of Soviet weaponary development.

Also then could you assume that Italy still controlled Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia because the British were never able to get into Italian East Africa?

I would suppose so.

Also, what about the armiament of our East-European friends (Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Croatia, etc.) Are we looking at an influx of German equipment, or more of local (and hence inferior) designs. Or perhaps Soviet equipemnt?

Also, that would mean Italy's invasion of Egypt and Sudan would have succeeded which means Italy would control everything from the Alps, down through the Balkans and through Libya all the way to Somalia. That means only Kenya and South Africa would still have British influence.

I'll try to address the questions I know the answers to (in no particular order):

Also then could you assume that Italy still controlled Eritrea, Ethiopia and Somalia because the British were never able to get into Italian East Africa?

Most likely. However, if Italy and UK (sorry, to lazy to look up who) want do have the lands controlled by the UK or vise versa, thats fine. I guess I'm trying to make this as free form as possible.

I would suppose so.

Also, what about the armiament of our East-European friends (Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Croatia, etc.) Are we looking at an influx of German equipment, or more of local (and hence inferior) designs. Or perhaps Soviet equipemnt?

Yes most likely there would be a increase in Axis weapons, however probably do to the fact that they would not want to re-equip their entire armed forces, their equipment would likely not change that much.

Right. Did the Japanese win at the Kokoda Trail? How did my attack at North Africa go?

Mostly likely the Japanese would have failed at Kokoda Trail. The Japanese troops were under supplied and over worked, while admitily so where the Aussies but they had reinforcements comming and they were defending their home land.

No. I believe, despite the changes listed. British forces in Eygpt still repelled the Italian Invasion, and drove deep into Libya. Since Rommel was headed towards Bagdad. Then again, that puts the British in a hard position.

Their rear is exposed to Rommel, and they're probably having to pour a lot of valueble resources into their offensive against the Italians. So, it's safe to assume, that Britian hasn't occupied Libya so much as it's a stalemate. Due that British forces now have to defend their rear from Rommel.

Thought it is safe to assume that Ethopia, Somalia, and French and British holds in those areas are under Italian occupation. Britian, in this game, would never have the resources to send forces or even weapons to the areas.

Now is Bulgaria still intitled to her extended claims inthe Balkans (Macedonia and an outlet to the Ageian)?

Do we have to use authentic technology or can we use modern weapons?

Authenitic. Otherwise, I'll whine like the little bitch I am.

(Sorry guys, I'm delerious. It's like 10:00 and I haven't slept in two days. Give me a break.)

I would like to play Sweden, I just registered as Sweden on the forums.

I would like to play as Sweden. I just registered on the forums as Sweden.

I would like Colombia if it's not already taken.

Id like to join as Switzerland

Iraq was pro-German and should German troops egt anywhere near Iraq, it would declare independence. Also Turkey was not pro-German. Infact they were more leaned to the Allies, they were just affraid to join the war.
Turkey had Russia to fear no one likes Commies!

Actuall fact Turkey was Pro German and if Stalingrad had been Taken Turkey was joining in!!!

No. I believe, despite the changes listed. British forces in Eygpt still repelled the Italian Invasion, and drove deep into Libya. Since Rommel was headed towards Bagdad. Then again, that puts the British in a hard position.

Their rear is exposed to Rommel, and they're probably having to pour a lot of valueble resources into their offensive against the Italians. So, it's safe to assume, that Britian hasn't occupied Libya so much as it's a stalemate. Due that British forces now have to defend their rear from Rommel.

Thought it is safe to assume that Ethopia, Somalia, and French and British holds in those areas are under Italian occupation. Britian, in this game, would never have the resources to send forces or even weapons to the areas.
Britain was defending he Middle east they had a whole nother Army there.
Off course with the loss of Baghdad the British would be hopelessly screwed.

Harlesburg would like New Zealand and for issues raised by said nation of Harlesburg to be addressed.

Does anyone know where to get info about the Swiss army during WWII? ive been searching trough Google and havent found much except the numbers (435,000, but the maximum capability is 700,000)

I would like to be Bolivia if its not already taken.

All requests granted! If I missed yours please tell me, I most likely did not do it on purpose .

Ok I'm having some trouble replyng on that board on the link. Everytime I try to reply to something, it says I need to log in, and I don't know how to register.

I've got a problem. I am not authorized to create a thread in the ¨Amercia's¨. Everything else works, though. Why?

I've got a problem. I am not authorized to create a thread in the ¨Amercia's¨. Everything else works, though. Why?

I've got a problem. I am not authorized to create a thread in the ¨Amercia's¨. Everything else works, though. Why?

I've got a problem. I am not authorized to create a thread in the ¨Amercia's¨. Everything else works, though. Why?

The promblem should be fixed. If its not, I have no idea whats wrong with the crappy board.

Attention all participating nations!

Axis or Allies?
Which side will your nation join? The ever expanding Axis, or the freedom fighting Allies? Will you defend your homeland to the death or die to conquer someone elses? You decide!

Well, drama aside, it seems to me like we should get sides going. And to keep it simple, it seems like they should stay as the Axis and Allies. Now, I would like to keep the sides like they were in RL or as affected by the timeline changes, however I have no problem with them changing in the future.

I will remain neutral unless hostilities arrive at my country.

bump!

I shall take Venezuela.

done/bump

Since theres a French Resistance, can I be the Polish Resistance? :D

Granted!

Note!

Please general/non-combat related posts in the General IC section under politics. Thank you.

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Decide what side you will be one now!

Lets get some RP's going on the forum!!

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To do the lack of inactivity, it has been decided that any nation who has not been active (on the forums) since March 16, 2005, will have their nations be deleted(on the forums), and offered up to other nations. If you wish to protest this, or plea for your nation's continued existence, you have until Saturday, April 2. Thank you for your time, and I apologize for any inconvenences.

Today is the last chance you get to alert me to your continued participation!

Tagged for future reference. Should any interesting nations become free, I might consider joining.

That's one. Keep your fingers crossed for more.

Nations have been released! Take them while you still can!

I'll take Japan.

I'lll be Hungary. Axis allinged.

bump

Acknowledged

Just so the new aplliers will know, im switching from Switzerland to Argentina.

Bump for new participants....Anyone!

Ill play a Allied or Axis nation I dont care which. China would be preferable though (People's army)

[OOC: Bump for exposure]

I'm quite certain Kordo wont mind, so head over when you have the chance and sign up, all the China's are still available.

http://s9.invisionfree.com/Alternate_WWII/index.php?act=idx

I'm quite certain Kordo wont mind, so head over when you have the chance and sign up, all the China's are still available.

http://s9.invisionfree.com/Alternate_WWII/index.php?act=idx

Thanks! Should I sign up as China, or the Peoples Army of China, or what?

I suggest you sign up as Communist China.

me now be you regional ww2 expert

Screen name is upto you, Peoples Army of China like you say would be good.

I'm quite certain Kordo wont mind, so head over when you have the chance and sign up, all the China's are still available.

http://s9.invisionfree.com/Alternate_WWII/index.php?act=idx


Thanks for getting him for me. I've been quite busy lately.

No Proplem, Glad to help :)


And now seems like a good time to ask anyone else if there intrested.....

Thanks for switching me to Argentina. Oh and btw, you have to delete Switzerland.

Don't know whether this RP has already begun if not can I give a little suggestion for the alternative history.

Firstly if Dunkirk were a disaster for the allies then unfortunately I believe that operation Sealion (invasion of Britain) would have gone ahead and been successful, effectively ending the war. The evacuation of Dunkirk had to have been successful for the war to still be raging in 1943.

There are two events, however, that I believe would have made the changes that are required for the RP top be in the position required in 1943.

The first is the construction of the German aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin a very useful introduction to the Battle of The Atlantic. Expected to enter service at the end of 1940 but in game terms probably arrived mid 1941. This could be a useful introduction of South America into the war. Imagine what dive bombers could do to the lock gates of the Panama Canal!!!

The next significant event would be the completion by the Soviets of the invasion of Finland. This would certainly increase the Germans wariness of Soviet capabilities and would lead to the extension of the Soviet/German no-aggression pact or even as suggested a more permanent alliance.

One further question, how do I get further involved in this RP game, I have a major interest in all things relating to WW2 and have often wondered what effect small changes in history would have?

1. Operation Seelöve would have been preluded (is that the correct term?) by massive bombings of fortifications and airfields by Luftwaffe. This happened in real life and the Chain Home stations proved invaluable as they allowed the British to see every bomber in Normandy and Pas-de-Calais. I don't think the Germans could have won the Battle of Britain.
Even if they did win the war in the air it would be very hard to launch an amphibic operation against England Normandy-stile (white cliffs of Dover anyone?)

2. The Graf Zeppelin is already in the Caribbean but has retreated to Cartagena after a small battle with the British 1st Fleet and the entire Mexican navy (seventeen ships :p ).

3. The invasion of Finland is already underway.

4. Sign up, get accepted and follow the link.

As you mention the first stage of Sealion was the bombardment of Britain which was defended, but only just, by the RAF. At that time the forces of the RAF pilots included over 250 foreign nationals, many of which would not have been able to fight if the "massacre of Dunkirk" had taken place. Some of the Polish squadrons had the highest of kill rates in fact the Poles accounted for 5% of all pilots and managed 12% of all planes shot down. Then there were the French, Czech and Belgian pilots not to mention those Brits that managed to escape back over the sea.

With the lose of 350,000 troops at Dunkirk and the skies cleared of RAF fighters I doubt that the Germans would even have needed to launch the amphibious phase of Sealion before Britain had crumbled. Even if the landings were required I doubt it would have taken more than 50,000 men to subdue what was left of the British army.

The RAFs flyers were superior to the Luftwaffes and they had the advantag of RADAR and thye were defending their homeland. Even if the Germans conquered Britain they would have been forced to leave because of the uprisings and riots that not even Gestapo could control. Britain would simply suck resources from Germany wich would definatley mean that the Allies Allies would win the war.
That was all real life though, in the game I would guess that the Home Guard, the Grand Fleet, the remaines of the RAF together with the Chain Home and the rest of the British army that was present would have made it quite hard for Germany to win, after all only the BEF was in France. In the end it all depends on the roleplayer.

I would say even at the height of German power, they never had the resources to build a fleet, much less defend it from the British fleet. Even a noted historian(I'll have to look up the name) believed that if a scenario similiar to this RP happened (I actually based the RP off his work) they wouldn't have had the necessary ships, or the correct types of ships to do a water invasion of the Middle East (Via the Med. Sea), so it seems unlikely they would have the resources to invade a much heavily defended territory, with much more limited invasion points. But thats just my two bits. I don't claim to know everything about history.

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operation sealion would not have worked as most of the german destoyers where sunk in Norway leading to the lack of escort of the invasion fleet if did go ahead

In order for the Germans to win against Britain, they would have had to have air superiority, which they almost did have. But nevertheless, the invasion would happen 3 years later ((1943....current year :D)). Anyway in the mean time Britain would be bombared to hell and when the invasionf orce would come,t here wouldnt be much that would resist.....witht he exception of guerrila fighters.

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chill Kordo im yamato the one helping you out with infomations in your RP

fine i wont post it again if you are going to be like that


oh hmm can i be sweden ?

chill Kordo im yamato the one helping you out with infomations in your RP

fine i wont post it again if you are going to be like that


oh hmm can i be sweden ?


Sorry 'bout that, I just saw something that appeared like spam and lashed out. And you now are the proud owner of sweden

np hey you got msn where we can talk ?

seems like nothing much is happening in your RP no offence but thats the truth as we both have a intrest for ww2 RPs we could pull our resoruces and stuff together and i could maybe make up some of the empty spaces in your RP the older RPs ive run on my fourm has been quite successful

if you are more intrested in this contact me at fatboy540@gmail.com

np hey you got msn where we can talk ?

seems like nothing much is happening in your RP no offence but thats the truth as we both have a intrest for ww2 RPs we could pull our resoruces and stuff together and i could maybe make up some of the empty spaces in your RP the older RPs ive run on my fourm has been quite successful

if you are more intrested in this contact me at fatboy540@gmail.com


Check e-mail please.

bump

seeing as a whole bunch of nations just got deleted I'll swoop in and take canada!
Heh heh heh...I have plans for this country...

'Bout time you showed up SM, confirmed.

Hm, I'll play Turkey, if it's alright with you.

Hm, I'll play Turkey, if it's alright with you.

Done

I would say even at the height of German power, they never had the resources to build a fleet, much less defend it from the British fleet. Even a noted historian(I'll have to look up the name) believed that if a scenario similiar to this RP happened (I actually based the RP off his work) they wouldn't have had the necessary ships, or the correct types of ships to do a water invasion of the Middle East (Via the Med. Sea), so it seems unlikely they would have the resources to invade a much heavily defended territory, with much more limited invasion points. But thats just my two bits. I don't claim to know everything about history.
Ah yes but they did have the Italian Navy and with the Zepplin they would have rolled up Malta and made Tel El Alamein unteniable to hold.

Ok this has gone too far. If you intend to join the game, then make sure you stay active. The forum has gone inactive again :mad:

I agree, should we contact all players via TG?

Sounds.. Spiffy..

All nations should now have a TG stateing the terms.


EDIT: Certe and Vladachek, do either of you still have NS nations 'cause when I typed your names in they said your nations didn't exist.

I'll continue to rp as Mexico.

New Zealand is still active what about Italy cause there is no way im letting them hold Egypt!

I bees still here.

Me and tiger elam are still in he lives next door to me so i know he's in.

I'm just letting you know I'm still active in the rp. Wish other people would be, so we can actually have a war.

Argentina definitly still active

a small question:
well, is the Polish Underground taken?

Not that i'm aware of, feel free to register as such if you like.

I am willing to resume RP if this WW II project stays active. Whenever something goes inactive, or crawls along at a snail's pace, I lose my RP'ing ambition.

I am willing to resume RP if this WW II project stays active. Whenever something goes inactive, or crawls along at a snail's pace, I lose my RP'ing ambition.


O me too, right now it seems to be about 4 to 5 active nations, could be 1 or 2 I missed, but yeah come back and give it a try.

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