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After their recent short stint in Talzeckia, both the Isselmere-Nieland Army and the Royal Isselmere-Nieland Marines found the standard 5.56mm x 45mm SS109 round to be unsatisfactory both in terms of trajectory and stopping power. The new round would have to be sufficiently light enough for each soldier to carry as many rounds on his or her person as before without an enormous weight increase. The new round would have to permit an average soldier to fire a standard service rifle on full automatic. Following months of trials, both the INA and the RINM have decided upon the 6.5mm Grendel 123-grain bullet. Conversion of existing weapons (assault rifles and light machine guns) will place a heavy burden on the UKINDF's finances, but the Chief of Defence Staff declares that for the safety of its personnel, it's a load worth bearing.

L19 General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG)

Based on the superb Mitrailleuse d'appui général (MAG) and Minimi machine guns from the Fabrique Nationale - Herstal, the L19 GPMG will serve as the new section and platoon-level machine gun in the UKIN Defence Forces (UKIN-DF).

Like the Minimi, the L19 can accept either belted ammunition or magazines from the new L17 assault rifle to fire providing flexibility of operation. Similar to both the MAG and the Minimi, the L19 has a gas regulator allowing the gunner to select the rate of fire or to compensate for adverse conditions. As with those two designs, this gas regulator is attached to the quick change barrel permitting rapid barrel changes in combat without having to resort to tools. The barrel has, however, been chromed to reduce fouling and to prolong barrel life. The barrel release is on the sturdy carrying handle.

The L19 has a push button safety.

Characteristics
Calibre: 6.5 x 39mm Grendel (123gr {7.97g} bullet, 17.17g cartridge)
Mass: Overall (empty): 8.86kg; Barrel: 2.4kg
Length: Overall: 1075mm; Barrel: 540mm
Range: 1,000m (bipod) (generally 800m)
Operation: Gas (open bolt), air-cooled, belt- or magazine-fed
Cyclic rate: 650-1,000 rpm
Firing modes: Full automatic only
Price: $4,500 (includes spare barrel)

L17 Assault Rifle

Bullpup design based on the British EM-2 rifle but using the forward case/cartridge ejection system of Fabrique Nationale - Herstal's F2000 5.56 x 45mm assault rifle for improved ambidextrous firing. Charging lever on spine of rifle. Bolt works on the rotating bolt principle minimising both parts and complexity.

The operation of the rifle is as follows: gas from the propellant impinges through a cavity in the barrel to the gas tube above. This gas pressure then forces back a gas piston that acts on the bolt carrier, causing the bolt itself to rotate ejecting the case or round. Cases/rounds are then ushered out of the front of the rifle by the bolt carrier. The ejection port in the front of the rifle opens and closes with the action of the bolt carrier, closing when the bolt is forward.

Characteristics
Calibre: 6.5 x 39mm Grendel (123-gr {7.97g} bullet, 265-gr {17.17g} round)
Weight: 3.54kg (empty, with 1.5-power scope); 4.94kg (loaded with 3.5-power scope)
Length: 800mm
Barrel length: 533mm (21")
Operation: Gas (piston), rotating bolt
Cyclic rate: 750-800 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 792.5 m/s
Firing modes: Single-shot semi-automatic, two-round burst, full automatic
Magazine: 30 rounds
Price: $2,250 with 1.5-power scope, $2,450 with 3.5-power scope, $2,175 with holographic weapon sight, (HWS), $2,850 with computerised aiming system

ooc:You should use 10mm. low recoil high power.

ooc:You should use 10mm. low recoil high power.
10mm implies heavy recoil if it is to be effective at long distances (ca. 1,000m). I'd prefer a service round to be general purpose rather than one that's great at short distances (for which special service weapons (submachine guns for urban environments, etc.).

10mm would require heavy recoil if it is to be effective at long distances (ca. 1,000m). I'd prefer a service round to be general purpose rather than one that's great at short distances (for which special service weapons (submachine guns for urban environments, etc.).

spoilsport :P :D

But the damage done by a 10mm at 200m would be great :)

spoilsport :P :D

But the damage done by a 10mm at 200m would be great :)
I prefer 0.45" ACP myself :D

OOC:
I hope you dont mind a little IC post.

IC:
We are glad to see another nation choose such an effective round as the 6.5x39mm and are curious if you would be interested in purchaseing the designs for our GSJHP round which without adding much weight (its a 130 gr projectile) is capable of increaseing both its soft tissue lethal effect, and penetration, with a low chance of ricochet...

A GSJHP or Glaser Special Jacketed Hollow Point round which is a unique JHP round with a large tear drop shaped cavity with a small opening at the tip that gradually widens as the cavity descends. This cavity has been filled with 30-40 small tungsten spheres (#6 shot) which due to the shape of the cavity and the small initial opening upon impact with a hard target the tip deforms pinching the opening closed and allows it to punch through the target much like a traditional FMJ round, but against soft targets the round 'blooms' and fragments rapidly after penetration generating grievous incapacitating wounds against soft tissue, making it highly effective in a self defense role. Originally designed a psitol round four our 10x30mm Model 13 pistol it was scalled up (or is that down) for use in a 6.5mm boat tailed round and has proven highly effective as both a close range 'man-stopper' as well as long range penetration that is so well known in traditional 6.5 grendal rounds. Overall the round is noted for; controlled expansion, penetration, and proven lethality against multiple threats types.

Price is negotiable.

-Christopher Biggs
Director of Sales ALPHAtech Industries

OOC:
I hope you dont mind a little IC post.

IC:
We are glad to see another nation choose such an effective round as the 6.5x39mm and are curious if you would be interested in purchaseing the designs for our GSJHP round which without adding much weight (its a 130 gr projectile) is capable of increaseing both its soft tissue lethal effect, and penetration, with a low chance of ricochet...

A GSJHP or Glaser Special Jacketed Hollow Point round which is a unique JHP round with a large tear drop shaped cavity with a small opening at the tip that gradually widens as the cavity descends. This cavity has been filled with 30-40 small tungsten spheres (#6 shot) which due to the shape of the cavity and the small initial opening upon impact with a hard target the tip deforms pinching the opening closed and allows it to punch through the target much like a traditional FMJ round, but against soft targets the round 'blooms' and fragments rapidly after penetration generating grievous incapacitating wounds against soft tissue, making it highly effective in a self defense role. Originally designed a psitol round four our 10x30mm Model 13 pistol it was scalled up (or is that down) for use in a 6.5mm boat tailed round and has proven highly effective as both a close range 'man-stopper' as well as long range penetration that is so well known in traditional 6.5 grendal rounds. Overall the round is noted for; controlled expansion, penetration, and proven lethality against multiple threats types.

Price is negotiable.

-Christopher Biggs
Director of Sales ALPHAtech Industries

[OOC: No worries]

To: Christopher Biggs, Director of Sales, ALPHAtech Industries, Mekugi
From: Albert Huxley, Director, Land Services Directorate, Defence Procurement Agency, UKIN
Subject: 6.5 x 39mm GSJHP rounds

Dear Sir,

The Royal Isselmere-Nieland Constabulary may consider that cartridge for special service, but I must regretfully decline the offer for service within the military owing to pre-existing agreements the government has preventing the use of expanding rounds. Thank you for your interest.

Sincerely,

Albert Huxley
Director, Land Services Directorate
Defence Procurement Agency
Ministry of Defence
UKIN

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