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Looking for tech

Nanotech Army
04-03-2005, 17:26
OPEN TRANSMISSION ON ALL FREQUENCIES
The Protectorate is interested in purchasing new technologies. Specifically, we are looking for the molecular composition of a material which naturally blocks the waves emitted by an EMP and a power generation method which does not require 'fuel' which has a higher yield than solar power. You shall be generously compensated

OOC: im doing this so that I can increase the power of my forces without rping it myself, so as to avoid godmoding.
Siesatia
04-03-2005, 18:50
OOC: Im pretty sure, as in 90%, that lead blocks EMP.

IC:
The Unified Worlds of Siesatia is willing to offer Plasma harvesting technologies, they offer high yields of energy, an use the sun as a source. Near limitless power, and it is adaptable for ships. This technology is battle proven, and tested. Price negotiable.
Goa-uld
04-03-2005, 18:58
+-+-+SECRET CHANNEL+-+-+

+-+-+FROM: UNKNOWN CHANNEL 31-A-D2-8+-+-+

The Goa'uld System Lord, Har'ur, has offered to trade the rare mineral Naquadah (http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/miscellany/n/naquadah.shtml) with the Nanotech Army. Although it does have some EMP shielding, it is much more potent as a fuel, power, or weapon source. Although it does take fuel, a Naquadah generator can last thousands of years before running out.

Add Naquadah to an explosive, and it will amplify its power by a thousand times.

Processed in the right way, which we would need to teach you for a...price, it can act as a giant super-conductor: allowing it to soak up most forms of energy (including, but not limited to, EMP).

Har'ur is awaiting your response. Remember, do not patch this communication to any other Frequencies that are controlled or monitored by other Goa'uld. You must be secret.

+-+-+END TRANSMISSION+-+-+
Nanotech Army
04-03-2005, 22:01
COMMUNICATIONS RECIEVED FROM Siesatia and Har'ur

COMMUNICATION TO Siesatia
Sounds very good, the Protectorate would like to purchase one of these plasma harvesters or at least blueprints for one. Reply with the price and coordinates for pickup if you are willing to sell.

COMMUNICATION TO Har'ur on Secure Channel
Interesting, the Protectorate likes the sound of the treated naquada that can absorb energy forms. We would like to purchase a sample of this naquada or at least the chemical formula for it. Reply with the price and neutral coordinates for pickup if you are willing to sell.

OOC: Funny coincidence Har'ur. We are both based on races from the same TV show. (my tech is based on the replicators)
Kyanges
04-03-2005, 22:24
---Transmission to Nanotech Army---
(Universal Channel: 2345234.423)

The Eshirian Sovereignty currently utilizes a powerful form of power generation which uses the awesome energy of Zero Point energy. Zero Point Energy can be observed in a vacuum which was previously believed to be simply empty space. It is an abundant and relatively cheap power supply where there has been no previously observed limit.

If this interests you, please, simply reply on this channel.

---End Transmission---
Siesatia
05-03-2005, 00:33
Transmission on Secure channel
The following package will be availiable in one weeks time...

Invoice:
6 Plasma Harvesting Devices (Ship)
6 Plasma Harvesting Devices (City)
1 Full Technical Readout on Ship bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Full Technical Readout on City bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Detailed Report on Ship bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Detailed Report on City bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Detailed Blueprint on Plasma Energy Integration

Production Rights
____________________________________________
Vector Inc.
Siesatian Territories
Burmecia, Gaia
Brokenspear Rd. 21030


Requested Price:
10,000,000,000 USD
Nanotech Army
05-03-2005, 02:56
COMMUNICATION RECIEVED FROM Siesatia
COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FROM Kyanges

COMMUNICATION TO Siesatia on Secure Channel
Please wait while we consider your offer. More details are required, specifically if this power is obtained through a solar emmission or from a star itself.

COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Excellent, though more details are required. Is this zero-point energy simply extracted from vacuum? If so the Protectorate is very interested.
East Coast Federation
05-03-2005, 03:14
OOC: Interested in Qunatum Converters? Can produce an insane amount of power, and never run out.
Evil Aussie Creatures
05-03-2005, 03:27
--OPEN TRANSMISSION (ID: 102344553)--

EvilAusC has developed antimagentic field generators which are used in our defences to unarm people (Metal is repeled by the field). A theory shared by some of our scientists say that this field could negate electromagnetic pulses.

EvilAusC also uses specially designed biotech for it's energy systems. If you wish these technologies are avaliable for a small price, along with a peace treaty stating that you cannot invade us and cannot share this technology with others.

--END TRANMISSION--
Kanuckistan
05-03-2005, 03:34
OPEN TRANSMISSION ON ALL FREQUENCIES:

The Protectorate is interested in purchasing new technologies. Specifically, we are looking for the molecular composition of a material which naturally blocks the waves emitted by an EMP

Name: Copper
Symbol: Cu
Atomic Number: 29
Atomic Mass: 63.546 amu
Melting Point: 1083.0 °C (1356.15 °K, 1981.4 °F)
Boiling Point: 2567.0 °C (2840.15 °K, 4652.6 °F)
Number of Protons/Electrons: 29
Number of Neutrons: 35
Classification: Transition Metal
Crystal Structure: Cubic
Density @ 293 K: 8.96 g/cm3
Color: red/orange

For optimum application, see: Faraday Cage

How much will you be paying for this valuble information?

Signed:
Doktor Darwin Nesbit
Department of Smart-Assery
Uniphase Armouries Interversal


OOC: Im pretty sure, as in 90%, that lead blocks EMP.


OOC:
Depends; how conductive is lead? More conductive = better.
East Coast Federation
05-03-2005, 03:42
OOC: Most FT vessels are very well protected aganist EMP. For an simple example, The nav sheilds from star trek, protect the ship aganist things like that.
Goa-uld
05-03-2005, 04:56
COMMUNICATIONS RECIEVED FROM Siesatia and Har'ur

COMMUNICATION TO Siesatia
Sounds very good, the Protectorate would like to purchase one of these plasma harvesters or at least blueprints for one. Reply with the price and coordinates for pickup if you are willing to sell.

COMMUNICATION TO Har'ur on Secure Channel
Interesting, the Protectorate likes the sound of the treated naquada that can absorb energy forms. We would like to purchase a sample of this naquada or at least the chemical formula for it. Reply with the price and neutral coordinates for pickup if you are willing to sell.

OOC: Funny coincidence Har'ur. We are both based on races from the same TV show. (my tech is based on the replicators)

OOC: If you saw the episode tonight (Friday), then you probably wouldn't want to RP as them anymore. As far as we know, (SPOILER!!!) they're all dead.

IC:

We...did not know you were Replicator. We would ask for the following in exchange for 26 tons of Naquada Ore:

1) No Replicator ship shall enter or attack Goa-uld space.
2) A sample of Replicator material that is very resistant to energy weapons...hopefully equivalent to something Har'ur can use.

We await your answer.
Kyanges
05-03-2005, 05:08
OOC: If you saw the episode tonight (Friday), then you probably wouldn't want to RP as them anymore. As far as we know, (SPOILER!!!) they're all dead.

IC:

We...did not know you were Replicator. We would ask for the following in exchange for 26 tons of Naquada Ore:

1) No Replicator ship shall enter or attack Goa-uld space.
2) A sample of Replicator material that is very resistant to energy weapons...hopefully equivalent to something Har'ur can use.

We await your answer.

(OOC: LOL. Yes, I saw that episode. It's a good thing to let him know about that small...technicality. ^_^
Kyanges
05-03-2005, 05:47
COMMUNICATION RECEIVED FROM Kyanges

COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Excellent, though more details are required. Is this zero-point energy simply extracted from vacuum? If so the Protectorate is very interested.

---UinCom to Nanotech Army---
(Universal Channel: 2345234.423)

Our ZPE technology utilizes the zero-point electromagnetic radiation that is observable in a vacuum with all other EM energies blocked out. In a sense, it is, as you say, energy from a vacuum.

---End UinCom---

(OOC: As a real world reference, here's a fun fact, ZPE was actually used to move a nanoscopic lever. Not really enough to power anything, but meh, at least it has groundings in real science. If you want to know about ZPE in real life, then you're going to have to have a basic understanding of a little Quantum Physics, including Quantum Field Theory, the Casimir Effect, and the Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, which I'm sure that you probably don't want to get into...But...here's a linky to some basic info anyway.Zero-Point Energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy) )
Nanotech Army
05-03-2005, 06:19
OOC: If you saw the episode tonight (Friday), then you probably wouldn't want to RP as them anymore. As far as we know, (SPOILER!!!) they're all dead.
OOC: lol i just saw that episode an hour before making this post. The replicators are not entirely gone however, as only the replicators in the Milky Way galaxy were destroyed (they only activated the stargates in their own galaxy as they prob didn't have nearly enough power to do the same to every gate in the universe, it would require an insane amount of power, at least several dozen ZPM's). Any Replicators in any other galaxys *cough*Thor's galaxy *cough* will remain and could quite possilbly have adapted to the weapon already (like when they adapted to the modified disruptor). That is beside the point as we are not exactly the Replicators, just very similar in regard to technological basis and organizational structure. In contrast with them, we actually have a relationship with other species other than "consume" (although that does happen if you get on our bad side). For instance we recently joined an alliance and signed a non-aggression pact with another nation and we are negotiating for technology right now instead of simply trying to take it.

Kanuckistan you have got to be joking. :headbang: . Are you telling me that simple copper actually blocks emp. Although if I remember right copper rusts...

East Coast Federation, we although we do have a method of recovering from an EMP strike, it takes time and power. It would be much better to be totally immune. I intentionally created my tech with this weakness to start out with to avoid Uber-powerfullness (godmoding). For more info see my factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=402006).

Goa-uld, for now im pretty sure that you dont know that we are replicator-like (i said that I was in OOC). If you would like to rp finding that out some how then that is fine and it would not be difficult.

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Very well. The Protectorate would like to negotiate for purchase of one such zero-point energy generators. Please respond with your terms.
Kanuckistan
05-03-2005, 07:10
OOC:
Kanuckistan you have got to be joking. :headbang: . Are you telling me that simple copper actually blocks emp. Although if I remember right copper rusts...


OOC:
Employed properly? Yes, it does a wonderful job. Anything sufficently conductive works, actually. Copper's just fairly cheap and highly effective; personally I use superconductors.

You simply make a faraday cage.

And copper doesn't 'rust', iirc. It corrodes slightly and turns green, but you can just coat it with something if that's an issue for you.

Now, about that 'generous compensation'... *looks ICward*
Siesatia
05-03-2005, 07:15
The collection systems can retrieve plasma either way. It is extremely versitile and advanced, because they have been in continuous development for 200 years, and now that we have advanced beyond them, they are being sold off.
Nanotech Army
05-03-2005, 16:23
OOC:
Employed properly? Yes, it does a wonderful job. Anything sufficently conductive works, actually. Copper's just fairly cheap and highly effective; personally I use superconductors.
You simply make a faraday cage.
And copper doesn't 'rust', iirc. It corrodes slightly and turns green, but you can just coat it with something if that's an issue for you.
Now, about that 'generous compensation'... *looks ICward*

OOC: as naquadah is more conductive then copper, I think im gonna go with that and not with copper. Although since you did give me the info about anything conductive being able to...

IC:
For seemingly no apparent reason The Protectorate transfers 500,000 credits to Kanuckistan.

COMMUNICATION TO Siesatia
We are interested in the technology, but do not require your entire package. All we need is one working version of the generator (preferably city-version). We can handle it from there. Transmit price and coordinates for pickup if this is acceptible

OOC: im planning on using the plasma generator as a backup system with the zero-point energy as the primary system
Siesatia
05-03-2005, 17:02
Transmission on Secure channel
The following package will be availiable in 4 Days time...

Invoice:
1 Plasma Harvesting Devices (City)
1 Full Technical Readout on City bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Detailed Report on City bound Plasma Harvesting device.
1 Detailed Blueprint on Plasma Energy Integration
Production Rights to PG-2356-C
____________________________________________
Vector Inc.
Siesatian Territories
Burmecia, Gaia
Brokenspear Rd. 21030


Requested Price:
4,000,000,000

OOC: Without the technical readouts, and energy integration reports you will spend a century trying to get it to work with your ships.
Nanotech Army
05-03-2005, 18:00
OOC: Without the technical readouts, and energy integration reports you will spend a century trying to get it to work with your ships.
OOC: Perhaps you underestimate our ability to Integrate new tech when we can get it, but we will buy them if it is absolutely necessary...

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Seisetia on Secure Channel
Package is acceptable. The Protectorate offers 2,000,000,000 for the package.

OOC:
seems fair since you have no need for it anymore

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Har'ur
The Protectorate would like to purchase 10 kilograms of naquadah for experimentation purposes. What do you want in exchange?
Siesatia
05-03-2005, 21:00
The UWS has reconsidered the offer, and realised a new solution, that you may be able to help with in exchange for the Plasma Devices. Our shipyards use nano machines to create our ships, much like your replicators. However, they are far too slow. If you have the technology, we would be willing to trade new designs for nano machines, for the plasma generaters.
Kanuckistan
05-03-2005, 23:57
OOC: as naquadah is more conductive then copper, I think im gonna go with that and not with copper. Although since you did give me the info about anything conductive being able to...


OOC:
Naquada also has the anoying tendency to blow up; a Naquada faraday cage would probally end up cooking off when hit with space-tech anti-ship weapons. And take whatever it was suposed to be protecting, along with anything nearby, with it.

Naquada is also expensive - if you've got that kinda money to blow, just use superconductor.. one that doesn't explode.
Siesatia
06-03-2005, 05:26
OOC: yeah, Naquadah and Naquadria are for Explosives and power generation, not armor. Actually, now that I think about it, replicaters made of Viranium (My non conductive metel) would be interesting.
Nanotech Army
06-03-2005, 23:18
OOC: actually naquada can be refined into a non (or less)-explosive form (pretty sure that is what the stargate is made out of)

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Siesetia
Your terms are acceptable. We shall supply you with 1/2 ton worth of self-replicating and self-repairing nanomachines which are preproggramed to construct anything that you transmit the design for, as well as themselves if you order them to, in exchange for the package described in previous transmissions.

OOC: note that these are a previous version of the current nanomachines that we use, they are extremely efficient at what you will probably need, but are extremely vulnerable to a variety of means of being destroyed. Also, what are the properties of Viranium out of curiousity (unless it is a secret)
Northrop-Grumman
06-03-2005, 23:23
OOC: yeah, Naquadah and Naquadria are for Explosives and power generation, not armor. Actually, now that I think about it, replicaters made of Viranium (My non conductive metel) would be interesting.
OOC: Don't forget that stargates are made out off naquadah, and nothing short of throwing them into a sun can destroy them.
Nanotech Army
06-03-2005, 23:48
OOC: Don't forget that stargates are made out off naquadah, and nothing short of throwing them into a sun can destroy them.
OOC: well it doesnt take THAT much to destroy a gate, but it is difficult as it can absorb and contain vast amounts of enery (because of this when they do explode, they cause TREMENDOUS devestation)
Northrop-Grumman
06-03-2005, 23:52
OOC: well it doesnt take THAT much to destroy a gate, but it is difficult as it can absorb and contain vast amounts of enery (because of this when they do explode, they cause TREMENDOUS devestation)
Well, if I remember correctly, the gate can be destroyed with an extreme power overload, a black hole, or a toss into a sun.
Goa-uld
06-03-2005, 23:55
OOC:
Naquada also has the anoying tendency to blow up; a Naquada faraday cage would probally end up cooking off when hit with space-tech anti-ship weapons. And take whatever it was suposed to be protecting, along with anything nearby, with it.

Naquada is also expensive - if you've got that kinda money to blow, just use superconductor.. one that doesn't explode.

OOC: Naquada, like NTA said, can be refined into numerous forms. All Goa'uld ships, ship-weapons, armor, etc. are constructed from Naquada. It's just Naquada refined differently. Naquada refined in that way seems to be stronger than normal metals, but still weaker than the gate.

Oh, and an SG really can take a beating before being destroyed. A BIG beating. Though only the Ancients knew how to refine Naquada that way.

Okay, I don't know you're replicators...so...

IC:

Haru'ur is willing to trade Naquada in exchange for something. What do you offer so mighty a God as he!?
Kanuckistan
07-03-2005, 01:00
OOC: Don't forget that stargates are made out off naquadah, and nothing short of throwing them into a sun can destroy them.

Season 5, Episode 14: 48 Hours. A stargate is destroyed when an alkesh crashes and explodes next to it. *hugs DVD box set*

I also don't recall anything about everything being made out of naquada, just that Goa'uld tech uses it as part of everything.

And Naquada only explodes when exposed to a nuclear-type event; this wouldn't be an issue in most cases, but nuclear-level events equate your average anti-ship weapon in NS space.
Northrop-Grumman
07-03-2005, 01:44
Season 5, Episode 14: 48 Hours. A stargate is destroyed when an alkesh crashes and explodes next to it. *hugs DVD box set*
<snip>Ah, no, it wasn't. Tanith's Alkesh hit the DHD and destroyed it. That cut the power to the gate after Teal'c ran into the event horizon. Therefore, the wormhole disengaged before Teal'c was able to rematerialize on the other side.

EDIT: The Alkesh hit the gate too, but we never quite saw the aftermath of that. I really don't think it was destroyed because in the Season 3, Episode 17: A Hundred Days, a meteor hits the gate and buries it stranding O'Neill on the planet Edora for a hundred days. If the gate could survive a meteor, it should definately survive an Alkesh.
Nanotech Army
07-03-2005, 03:12
Haru'ur is willing to trade Naquada in exchange for something. What do you offer so mighty a God as he!?

OOC: I do have something that you need although at this point I dont actually know that you need it... organic life forms (humans, hosts, slaves, whatever you wish to refer to them as)

IC:
COMMUNICATION to Har'ur on Secure Channel
What is it that you desire? We have much to offer.
Kanuckistan
07-03-2005, 06:02
Ah, no, it wasn't. Tanith's Alkesh hit the DHD and destroyed it. That cut the power to the gate after Teal'c ran into the event horizon. Therefore, the wormhole disengaged before Teal'c was able to rematerialize on the other side.

EDIT: The Alkesh hit the gate too, but we never quite saw the aftermath of that. I really don't think it was destroyed because in the Season 3, Episode 17: A Hundred Days, a meteor hits the gate and buries it stranding O'Neill on the planet Edora for a hundred days. If the gate could survive a meteor, it should definately survive an Alkesh.

The box says the gate's destroyed, and while the epp's dialog doesn't actually say so, Carter first asks if the Alkesh could have hit the gate.

And an Alkesh blowing up could readily be more destructive than that meteorite; I don't have that epp on DVD, but don't recall the crater being that big.
Kyanges
07-03-2005, 06:23
IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Very well. The Protectorate would like to negotiate for purchase of one such zero-point energy generators. Please respond with your terms.

---UinCom to Nanotech Army---
(Universal Channel: 2345234.423)

Our current estimates place one of our standard ZPE power systems at $8 Million. Each ZPE Generator is able to power a sizable vessel, with three of them capable of powering a small city. We will not go into specifics of exact power ratings and operational lifespan due to the sensitive nature of the technology, although we guarentee, it is far superior to all other forms of power generation, with the ability to last thousands of years. Plans, and documentation on our ZPE technology nessasary for you to fully intergrate them into your civilization will be transfered in hard copy form as well as in data form along with the ZPG.

Coordinates for transfer being transmitted now. As a note, expect the transport to be guarded by several small cruisers

---End UinCom---
Nanotech Army
07-03-2005, 14:49
COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Excellent, we would like to purchase one of your zero-point generators for the price of $8 million. Transmit coordinates where we can pick it up. Note that due to lack of ship variety, a mothership will be taking possession of the generator at the agreed upon coordinates.
Northrop-Grumman
07-03-2005, 22:52
The box says the gate's destroyed, and while the epp's dialog doesn't actually say so, Carter first asks if the Alkesh could have hit the gate.

And an Alkesh blowing up could readily be more destructive than that meteorite; I don't have that epp on DVD, but don't recall the crater being that big.
Here's a pic of the meteorite crater: http://www.stargatecaps.com/sg1/s3/317/html/3X17%5F125.html
Siesatia
07-03-2005, 23:21
OOC: actually naquada can be refined into a non (or less)-explosive form (pretty sure that is what the stargate is made out of)

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Siesetia
Your terms are acceptable. We shall supply you with 1/2 ton worth of self-replicating and self-repairing nanomachines which are preproggramed to construct anything that you transmit the design for, as well as themselves if you order them to, in exchange for the package described in previous transmissions.

OOC: note that these are a previous version of the current nanomachines that we use, they are extremely efficient at what you will probably need, but are extremely vulnerable to a variety of means of being destroyed. Also, what are the properties of Viranium out of curiousity (unless it is a secret)

OOC: Very secret, I believe only a select few allies really know alot about it... or someone who has been on AIM during one of my ramblings.

IC:
The package is ready, and can be delivered to specified coordinates upon confirmation of the delivery, or readyness of delivery of your package.
~SIAA Director Thomas Shefield~
Nanotech Army
08-03-2005, 01:16
The package is ready, and can be delivered to specified coordinates upon confirmation of the delivery, or readyness of delivery of your package.
~SIAA Director Thomas Shefield~

IC:
COMMUNICATION TO Siesatia on Secure Channel
Very well, we shall make the exchange at <insert neutral coordinates here>. You bring your generator and we shall bring the nanomachines. Meet at the above coordinates as soon as you are able.
Siesatia
08-03-2005, 03:59
"Our cargo vessel is already en route. Thank you for your buissiness."
Nanotech Army
08-03-2005, 04:07
IC: the ships meet at the specified coordinates and exchange the goods, the Protectorate gaining the generator and Siestia gaining the nanobots (at least I assume so)

The Protectorate ship begins Integration of the new generator, examining it thoroughly before deconstructing it. The blueprints assist as well...
ANALYSIS COMPLETE
NEW TECHNOLOGY INTEGRATED
INITIATING MODIFICATIONS TO MAKE COMPATIBLE

COMMUNICATION TO Siestia on Secure Channel
Transaction complete. Pleasure doing business with you.

OOC: ok now that that one is done it is time for the zero-point generator and, possibly, naquadah
Nanotech Army
09-03-2005, 03:36
A Protectorate ship goes to the coordinates designated by Kyanges and waits for the convoy to arrive with the zero-point generator.
Nanotech Army
13-03-2005, 05:51
OOC: Kyanges gave me permission to RP his part

IC: The freighters arrive at the designated coordinates and drop off the zero-point generator. Nanobots quickly swarm over the generator and begin Integrating it, deconstructing it while analyzing and scanning it.
COMMUNICATION TO Kyanges
Transaction complete.
INTEGRATION COMPLETE
NEW TECHNOLOGY INCORPORTATED
Modifying to make compatible

Several hours later...
Modifications for plasma and zero-point generators complete. Nanoscopic version of generators complete. Updating forces...

All Nanotech Army forces undergo what appear to be a giant "shiver" as the power generators are converted to the new zero-point generators with the plasma generators as backups. They now had the ability to generate power from vacuum and a more efficient form of "solar" power.