NationStates Jolt Archive

Greetings, nations and their respectable leaders and rulers, from Muttia Incorporated. We at Muttia, Inc. have been working on the new leader of modern warfare, the new superweapon of the world. It's name? Der Reinigungsapparat. What does it mean? The Purifier.

Der Reinigungsapparat is the new age of weapons, the new object to be feared by all on the battlefield. Intimidating, shocking, horrifying. Such are just words...we bring you the action.

By unveiling Der Reinigungsapparat, we have unveiled the face of modern warfare as it shall be forevermore. A battle of mechanized superweapons whose faces remain in the nightmares of soldiers all over. This is not just a war device, no. This is the war device. This is a device capable of making even the most cruel dictator piss his pants.

Der Reinigungsapparat is a new kind of machine. Created using state-of-the-art technology and advanced systems and weaponry, Der Reinigungsapparat is like no other.

A bipedal beast, larger than any MBT or bomber plane, and capable of firing a 10 kiloton nuclear missile at a target 485 miles away. They won't even see it coming...FLASH. BOOM. It's over.

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Image depicts the average-sized male, next to the DRGS.


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This Image shows the DRGS in amphibious mode, with tail and legs swept back and its wing structures swept backwards as well.


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Image depicts a closeup on the head, as well as shows off the weaponry systems on the rear of the vehicle..


Powerplant/Movement System
"Der Reinigungsapparat", or DRGS for short, is a technological amazement, especially when it comes to its movement system. The DRGS uses what has become universally known as artificial muscle tissue, which provides the DRGS with great flexibility and organic motion.

The DRGS is also amphibious, meaning it is able to "live" on land and water. When the DRGS is underwater, little openings on the "wings" of the DRGS produce a magnetohydrodynamic drive, or MHD propulsor (co-developed with Emeraldia Corporation of Truitt).

The drive is a method for propelling sea-going vessels, in which case the DRGS falls under such a category. An electric current is passed through seawater in the presence of an intense magnetic field. Functionally, the seawater is the moving, conductive part of an electric motor. Pushing the water out the back accelerates the vehicle. The propulsor is silent, which makes it an undetectable stealth superweapon for underwater warfare.

Crew
The DRGS is a one-crewed "vehicle". The pilot sits in a cockpit which projects an image of the outside world all around, which makes it appear that the cockpit walls have become transparent. This is done by numerous sensors situated all around the DRGS, which are protected substantially and have no obvious vulnerabilities to weapons.

The DRGSes cockpit is located in the "head" area of the bipedal craft, which is heavily armored.

Armament and Armor
The DRGS is the modern superweapon, capable of turning any war, any conflict, any disagreement into the owner's favor. When you have the DRGS, everyone fears you. Why, you ask? Because of its armament, its array of weapons.

The DRGS has two 32mm machine guns, with one on the end of each of the wings. These 32mm guns have a rate of fire of 500 rounds per minute, which will strike fear into even the most impregnable opponent.

On the back of the DRGS are 6 verticle missile launch tubes, which can release numerous forms of diverse missiles (such as surface to surface, surface to air, etc.). Also, these launchers can launch miniature nuclear missiles, which is an invaluable asset in modern warfare. The tubes convert (with the press of a few buttons) into two mid-sized missile launchers, capable of firing a small nuclear missile. However, do to the limited size of the launchers, the missile size is currently limited to a 5-10kt yield nuclear warhead.

On the "knees", located in the middle of the bipedal areas, are also missile launchers which launch 72mm High Explosive/Anti-Tank missiles.

Even with this powerful arsenal, one weapon on the DRGS stands out and rises above all others within the machine's armament. This weapon is a hydro-cannon, and has been nicknamed by the designers on the project as "The Overlord Device."

The hydro cannon works by firing a jet of extremely high-pressure water at a high velocity, which enables the cannon to cut dense materials (such as tanks or ships). The hydro cannon is located behind the head area, just below the cockpit area. In order to fire the cannon, the DRGSes head opens into three segments, which create a stable firing enviroment for the high power weapon.

Battlefield Situations
The DRGS is designed so it can handle all battlefield situations, as well as any area. However, being that this "creature" is so tremendously massive, it cannot fly or become aeronautic. Therfore, the DRGS is not suited for air combat. However, it can engage aircraft and emerge victorious (due to its armament and impenetrable armor.)

The DRGS is extremely tolerant of harsh conditions, including rain, snow, and sandstorms.

The defensive systems, such as armor, on the DRGS are also state of the art, with extremely resistant armor surrounding the entire machine. The armor is made of carbon fiber composites, which is a strong, light, and very expensive material. Each carbon filament is made out of long, thin sheets of carbon similar to graphite. A common method of making carbon filaments is the oxidation and thermal pyrolysis of polyacrylonitrile (PAN), a polymer used in the creation of many synthetic materials. Like all polymers, polyacrylonitrile molecules are long chains, which are aligned in the process of drawing fibers.

The fibers are bonded side to side, in narrow graphene sheets, which form a single filament. The armor also contains numerous composites, as well as titanium alloys. These materials help shield the DRGS from many different types of enemy firing systems, and make it a very-close-to-indestructable vehicle.

Specialty Systems
The DRGS contains a number of diverse and specially crafted systems, such as the control console (which is extremely advanced). The console controls all aspects and areas of the vehicle, and it is all concentrated into the one small control panel within the cockpit.

However, using a few newly designed technologies, the pilot also has the ability to run a program called "ISU-STR", which creates a virtual "world", in which the buttons are displayed on the transparent walls of the cockpit, making it easier to navigate. This program uses an AI program to run.

ISU-STR, when run, can also allow the pilot to put on "cruise control", which enables the program's AI to run the machine. The program is full of battlefield coding, enabling it to make the safest and most wise decisions. However, sometimes using the cruise control is impractable, such as when risks are needed to survive or when there is a better idea than what statistics and probabilities show.

Other systems include infared scanners, heatseeking locators, light reflection (makes the vehicle almost invisble to the naked eye by reflecting all light and creating a false identity), as well as advanced fire control and weapon loading systems.

Code Name: Der Reinigungsapparat (DRGS)
Specific Name: BP/SP-10.3-MNLS
Country of Origin: The Great Eighth Reich of Witzgall
Crew: 1
Weight: 228.5 tons
Width: 43 feet, 9 inches
Height: 78 feet, 4 inches
Armor: 16 inches
Maximum Range: 485 miles
Armament: 2x 32mm Guns; 6x Vertical-Launch Missile Tubes; 2x 72mm HEAT Missile Launchers; 1x Hydro-cannon
Powerplant: magnetohydrodynamic drive, as well as a nuclear reactor housed within the central frame of the DRGS (24,000hp)
Maximum Speed (land): 20 miles per hour
Maximum Speed (water): 24 knots

Single Unit Price: $60 billion
Production Rights Price: N/A

CURRENT NATIONS/GOVERNMENTS THAT USE THE DRGS

Witzgall (unknown amount, classified)
Avadria (one DRGS)
New Endenia (four)
Intelligent Neighbors (two)
MassPwnage (one)
The Island of Rose (two)
Doomingsland (five)
Industrial Experiment (two)


But, however, everything has a catch, no? Not really! In order to purchase one of these fine machines, you must fill out one of these questionnaires for our company...mainly just as a precaution, but it also helps if we have specific records for those of you who may just be little troublemakers. Tisk tisk! Just copy and paste the below into your order, and we will process your order as soon as possible.

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name:
Leader's Name:
Type of Government:
Population:
Region Nation Resides Within:
Number of DRGSes Requested:

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation?
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism?
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism?
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism?

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OOC: Veeeery nice Witzgall. You really should set up a ST nation sometime, I'd love to see what you make. However, I have one question - why the Hydrocannon? I can think of many MT weapons that would be much more efficient damage and space-wise. I mean, the water a weapon like that would use up would be massive. I mean, each blast would empty a small firetruck. Also, I had a suggestion. Seeing as how the only rear defense you have are (with much limitation) the VMLTs, why don't you add some minaiture missile launchers onto the tail? They would fire large amounts of smaller (Something around 10 CM) missiles, with small charges of your choice, to hit targets behind you. And then you could pull the tail under the body to allow you to use the missiles in a massive frontal attack.

OOC: Veeeery nice Witzgall. You really should set up a ST nation sometime, I'd love to see what you make. However, I have one question - why the Hydrocannon? I can think of many MT weapons that would be much more efficient damage and space-wise. I mean, the water a weapon like that would use up would be massive. I mean, each blast would empty a small firetruck. Also, I had a suggestion. Seeing as how the only rear defense you have are (with much limitation) the VMLTs, why don't you add some minaiture missile launchers onto the tail? They would fire large amounts of smaller (Something around 10 CM) missiles, with small charges of your choice, to hit targets behind you. And then you could pull the tail under the body to allow you to use the missiles in a massive frontal attack.

OOC:
Ah...JJR. The tail idea is a good one, I must say. The hydrocannon...well, I don't know. I was deciding between a HC or a laser of sorts, and I read up on some hydrocannons and they're very good weapons (IMHO). Also, while the water does pose a problem, it's fairly easy to "remake" with hydrogen fuel cells.

This is just "Phase 1", as some may say. There will be updates, trust me. And sooner or later, this gigantic behemoth will be a force to be reckoned with all over NS.

From the Desk of the Minister of Military Affairs

The Avadrian government and military has a strong interest in this program and the capabilities and potential use of this magnificent weapons platform. Therefore we would like to purchase one of these weapons. All the information requested will be included with the order. As well we would like to know if you will be providing training for the weapons pilot?

Minister of Military Affairs
August Kurgen

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Empire of Avadria
Leader's Name: Emperor Baiziel August Leopold Alexander II
Type of Government: Highly Nationalist Monarchy, Semi-Facist
Population: 1.9 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: The Axis
Number of DRGSes Requested: 1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

OOC: My friend, it could even hold up against some ST things, I'm sure. Instead of a hydrocannon, might I suggest some sort of arcing electrical weapon, like the Tesla Cannons I used when I was a youngling and used modern/near future tech?

From the Desk of the Minister of Military Affairs

The Avadrian government and military has a strong interest in this program and the capabilities and potential use of this magnificent weapons platform. Therefore we would like to purchase one of these weapons. All the information requested will be included with the order. As well we would like to know if you will be providing training for the weapons pilot?

Minister of Military Affairs
August Kurgen

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Empire of Avadria
Leader's Name: Emperor Baiziel August Leopold Alexander II
Type of Government: Highly Nationalist Monarchy, Semi-Facist
Population: 1.9 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: The Axis
Number of DRGSes Requested: 1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

From: Ted Fergings, CEO of Muttia Incorporated
To: Emperor Baiziel August Leopold Alexander II
Subject: DRGS Order

We thank The Empire of Avadria for their order of one DRGS weapons system. Pertaining to your question of pilot training: we are able to train a pilot if you wish, whether it be by the Witzgallian Military Corps (within the Eighth Reich), or perhaps you would like us to send our own scientist group (8-12 men and women) to your wonderous nation, in order to fully educate any workers on the vehicle.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

OOC: My friend, it could even hold up against some ST things, I'm sure. Instead of a hydrocannon, might I suggest some sort of arcing electrical weapon, like the Tesla Cannons I used when I was a youngling and used modern/near future tech?

OOC: A Tesla cannon? I'd have to look into it, but the electrical weapon does intrigue me. Perhaps I could install it on "Phase 2", whenever that is deemed finished. The hydrocannon seemed like the best bet for both amphibious and land-based warfare, due to its high flexibility as a gun under many different conditions.

OOC: Well, if you shielded the unit against electricity it would be quite a fierce in-water weapon.

OOC: Well, if you shielded the unit against electricity it would be quite a fierce in-water weapon.

OOC: I'll take your suggestions to heart and research them, JJR. Thanks for the suggestions and compliments. :)

OOC: Always willing.

From: Ted Fergings, CEO of Muttia Incorporated
To: Emperor Baiziel August Leopold Alexander II
Subject: DRGS Order

We thank The Empire of Avadria for their order of one DRGS weapons system. Pertaining to your question of pilot training: we are able to train a pilot if you wish, whether it be by the Witzgallian Military Corps (within the Eighth Reich), or perhaps you would like us to send our own scientist group (8-12 men and women) to your wonderous nation, in order to fully educate any workers on the vehicle.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

[Message Forwarded to Ministry of Military Affairs]
From the Desk of the Minister of Military Affairs

We feel it would be best to have your military train our pilot. So for the sake of easing everything, we feel it would be best to simply send over our chosen pilot and the staff required to maintain the DRGS. We expect to have the whole team assembled and on their way within the month.

Minister of Military Affairs
August Kurgen

[Message Forwarded to Ministry of Military Affairs]
From the Desk of the Minister of Military Affairs

We feel it would be best to have your military train our pilot. So for the sake of easing everything, we feel it would be best to simply send over our chosen pilot and the staff required to maintain the DRGS. We expect to have the whole team assembled and on their way within the month.

Minister of Military Affairs
August Kurgen

From: Ted Fergings, CEO of Muttia Incorporated
To: August Kurgen
Subject: DRGS Order

Very well then. I shall contact the Army Corps Foreign Relations and put in a training order for your team. I'm afraid I do not know how long training will take...possibly more than 6 months, I do not know as of this time.

Please wire the correct amount of currency to the company's Foreign Relations Credit Center, whose account number is as follows:
786A33DL
Enjoy your new weapon.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Queendom Of New Endenia
Leader's Name:The Amrylin Seat Sarah Sedai
Type of Government: Mornachy
Population: 190 Million
Region Nation Resides Within: Damnian
Number of DRGSes Requested: 4

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Queendom Of New Endenia
Leader's Name:The Amrylin Seat Sarah Sedai
Type of Government: Mornachy
Population: 190 Million
Region Nation Resides Within: Damnian
Number of DRGSes Requested: 4

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

Your order has been confirmed, and we will send thirty four scientists and six of our highly-skilled pilots along with the DRGSes that you have ordered.

Please may I order two of these for research purposes?

Basic Information
Nation Name: Intelligent Neighbors
Leader's Name: Sigmar Kahn
Type of Government: Corporate Police State
Population: 2.395 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: TKotM
Number of DRGSes Requested: 2

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? Hell No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Kinda
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No, not officially.

OOC: Witz, how could an anarchic nation such as yours build such a thing?

OOC: :( Witz come back to Modern Tech! Please?

OOC: :( Witz come back to Modern Tech! Please?

OOC: This is Modern/2010 tech, my friend...I am a Modern Tech nation.

Please may I order two of these for research purposes?

Basic Information
Nation Name: Intelligent Neighbors
Leader's Name: Sigmar Kahn
Type of Government: Corporate Police State
Population: 2.395 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: TKotM
Number of DRGSes Requested: 2

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? Hell No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Kinda
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No, not officially.

OOC: Witz, how could an anarchic nation such as yours build such a thing?

From: Ted Fergings, CEO of Muttia Incorporated
To: Sigmar Kahn
Subject: DRGS Order

As an ally of the Great Eighth Reich, your order is officially accepted. We are trying to keep up with the massive demand for this great weapon, so please wait for construction to be completed.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings.

OOC: No longer anarchic.

OOC: This is Modern/2010 tech, my friend...I am a Modern Tech nation.
OOC: Right....

OOC: Right....

OOC: Yup.

Nation Name:The People's Republic of MassPwnage
Leader's Name:The Great Leader Li
Type of Government:Totalitarian Communists
Population:appr. 500 mil.
Region Nation Resides Within:12-13
Number of DRGSes Requested:1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation?: Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism?: Oh hell yea.
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism?: Of course not
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism?: Yes, officially.

Nation Name:The People's Republic of MassPwnage
Leader's Name:The Great Leader Li
Type of Government:Totalitarian Communists
Population:appr. 500 mil.
Region Nation Resides Within:12-13
Number of DRGSes Requested:1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation?: Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism?: Oh hell yea.
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism?: Of course not
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism?: Yes, officially.

After doing a FULL background check on the nation of MassPwnage, we see that you are fit (however communistic and a somewhat-terrorism supporter, but not really) to hold a DRGS system. Order confirmed.

The DRGS is designed so it can handle all battlefield situations, as well as any area. However, being that this "creature" is so tremendously massive, it cannot fly or become aeronautic. Therfore, the DRGS is not suited for air combat. However, it can engage aircraft and emerge victorious (due to its armament and impenetrable armor.)

Its not that impregnable, all you gotta do is shoot a stinger at both its legs and then its head extremely quick. ;)

Seriously though, what tech is this? I doubt its my tech but just in case it is I wanna be the first kid on the block to have one.

Its not that impregnable, all you gotta do is shoot a stinger at both its legs and then its head extremely quick. ;)

Seriously though, what tech is this? I doubt its my tech but just in case it is I wanna be the first kid on the block to have one.

Modern/Post Modern...roughly 2010 technology. And I designed this myself, with the aid of pictures...nothing more was used. So it's better than the actual RAY in the game.

But wouldnt a few well placed blasts to the legs take em down pretty good. The joints are always the weakest point in things like those.

But wouldnt a few well placed blasts to the legs take em down pretty good. The joints are always the weakest point in things like those.

OOC: No, not really. It has over a foot of carbon fibric armor. That's more than the Nimitz Class naval carrier.

OOC: On the other hand, do you really want to spend $60bn on a machinegun post and a few missile tubes?

I wasnt buying one. Changed my mind after my last question, because I dont care how much armor there is on the thing, if you hit it in the joint in the legs there will be some problems for you.

I wasnt buying one. Changed my mind after my last question, because I dont care how much armor there is on the thing, if you hit it in the joint in the legs there will be some problems for you.

Sure, there would be problems. Same with shooting a tanks treads. But a few Stinger missiles may take it down, but don't forget that this thing has a range which is alot larger than a Stinger missile. So the guy would have to get in close to this vehicle, which isn't a likelyhood.

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Imperial Commonwealth of The Island of Rose
Leader's Name: Imperial President Frederick von Hattensberg
Type of Government: Imperialist Democracy
Population: 1.6 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: The New Roman Empire
Number of DRGSes Requested: 1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes (But only as defense or to support an ally)
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Imperial Commonwealth of The Island of Rose
Leader's Name: Imperial President Frederick von Hattensberg
Type of Government: Imperialist Democracy
Population: 1.6 Billion
Region Nation Resides Within: The New Roman Empire
Number of DRGSes Requested: 1

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes (But only as defense or to support an ally)
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

From: Ted Fergings, CEO of Muttia Incorporated
To: Imperial President Frederick von Hattensberg
Subject: DRGS Order

As with foreign relations pertaining between The Island of Rose and our Great Eighth Reich, we do confirm your order of 1 (one) DRGS. Your economy is blooming, and yet you remain uncorrupted. Well done. We at Muttia, Inc. applaud your glorious nation.

Order confirmed, please allow some time to build the vehicles. However, are you interested in training?

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

To: Ted Fergings
From: Frederick von Hattensberg

Yes we are very interested in training. We would also like to place a second
order, it seems there was a typo in the Department of Commerce. We would
use both models for research, they might be useful in a defensive project that
the Imperial Commonwealth will begin soon. Of course this is top secret, but
if you must know it involves space.
Frederick von Hattensberg

To: Ted Fergings
From: Frederick von Hattensberg

Yes we are very interested in training. We would also like to place a second
order, it seems there was a typo in the Department of Commerce. We would
use both models for research, they might be useful in a defensive project that
the Imperial Commonwealth will begin soon. Of course this is top secret, but
if you must know it involves space.
Frederick von Hattensberg

To: Frederick von Hattensberg
From: Ted Fergings
Subject: Re: Re: Order

Another Der Reinigungsapparat? Very well then. As per training, would you like us to send a team (from the company itself) of our own pilots and technicians, or would you prefer that you enlist your own pilots into our training program? It is up to you.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

To: Frederick von Hattensberg
From: Ted Fergings
Subject: Re: Re: Order

Another Der Reinigungsapparat? Very well then. As per training, would you like us to send a team (from the company itself) of our own pilots and technicians, or would you prefer that you enlist your own pilots into our training program? It is up to you.

Sincerely,
Ted Fergings

To: Ted Fergings
From: Frederick von Hattensberg

We prefer if you send the team to the Island. We thank for the DRGSs.
They will/might prove useful to the defense of the entire Commonwealth, not
the Island, but the Commonwealth.
Frederick von Hattensberg

BUMP

To: Ted Fergings
From: Frederick von Hattensberg

We prefer if you send the team to the Island. We thank for the DRGSs.
They will/might prove useful to the defense of the entire Commonwealth, not
the Island, but the Commonwealth.
Frederick von Hattensberg

Confirmed, the team will be sent on a carrier with the DRGSes on barges.

OOC: Couple of issues. Given the thickness of the armor, the inefficient design, the dual motive system, and the nuclear reactor, this is going to weigh too much to be effective. It will literally sink into the ground.

The armor is completely unrealistic. Far far far too thick... this is not a tank. It has much more surface area to be armored. So, you have the equivelent of 4 times the thickness (in actual thickness, not RHA) of a MBT's sloped bow plate all over? No. Not possible. It would collapse under it's own weight.

How are you going to shoehorn a nuclear reactor, cooling system, steam turbine, and generator into this and still have room for missiles and a propulstion system that can drive the thing through water more silently and quickly than purpose built submarines?

Finally, the AI. Did you know that DARPA recently had a contest to see if a whole bunch of universities and arms companies could make a vehicle navigate a course THAT THEY HAD A DETAILED MAP TO? They all failed miserably.

By the way, Witzgall, nice to see you again. =) It's Chardonay.

OOC: Couple of issues. Given the thickness of the armor, the inefficient design, the dual motive system, and the nuclear reactor, this is going to weigh too much to be effective. It will literally sink into the ground.

The armor is completely unrealistic. Far far far too thick... this is not a tank. It has much more surface area to be armored. So, you have the equivelent of 4 times the thickness (in actual thickness, not RHA) of a MBT's sloped bow plate all over? No. Not possible. It would collapse under it's own weight.

How are you going to shoehorn a nuclear reactor, cooling system, steam turbine, and generator into this and still have room for missiles and a propulstion system that can drive the thing through water more silently and quickly than purpose built submarines?

Finally, the AI. Did you know that DARPA recently had a contest to see if a whole bunch of universities and arms companies could make a vehicle navigate a course THAT THEY HAD A DETAILED MAP TO? They all failed miserably.

By the way, Witzgall, nice to see you again. =) It's Chardonay.


Oh, good evening Chard. =)

And yes, I am aware of the DARPA thing with the trucks falling over. Quite funny.

As per the armor, Praetonia is also talking to me about this. While yes, it is much thicker, keep in mind that 16" of armor is not just the carbon fiber "nanotubes". It is comprised of titanium, alluminum alloys, hardened steel, as well as other composites (such as the organic tissue, which is also considered "armor".)

As for the propulsion/powerplant systems: While yes, a nuclear reactor may not fit in its entirety into this system, I am testing out different systems (such as gas turbines or pressurized nuclear reactors). This is just "Phase 1", there will be better and stronger models to come.

The AI is not meant to be used as a cruise control state unless in a battle situation, where it would act as a target-fire-target-fire continuing the process. It's not meant to steer all over the area by itself, however it is possible (even though it probably would fall over).

Oh, good evening Chard. =)

And yes, I am aware of the DARPA thing with the trucks falling over. Quite funny.

As per the armor, Praetonia is also talking to me about this. While yes, it is much thicker, keep in mind that 16" of armor is not just the carbon fiber "nanotubes". It is comprised of titanium, alluminum alloys, hardened steel, as well as other composites (such as the organic tissue, which is also considered "armor".)

As for the propulsion/powerplant systems: While yes, a nuclear reactor may not fit in its entirety into this system, I am testing out different systems (such as gas turbines or pressurized nuclear reactors). This is just "Phase 1", there will be better and stronger models to come.

The AI is not meant to be used as a cruise control state unless in a battle situation, where it would act as a target-fire-target-fire continuing the process. It's not meant to steer all over the area by itself, however it is possible (even though it probably would fall over).

My point was it's already too powerful. I can't actually think of a single powerplant that would give you the desired performence and that could fit in it. I hate to think what the 'more powerful' version will be like.

And I didn't even mention the carbon nanotubes that currently cost $200 a gram to make... I was using armor as a general statement. It's simply too thick. I honestly think this is going to weigh in at over 1000 tons.

AIs are even worse at target designation than they are at driving. Humans still have a very signifigant edge in visual pattern recognition.

But wouldnt a few well placed blasts to the legs take em down pretty good. The joints are always the weakest point in things like those.

OOC: Kinetics would rip this thing a new one.

OOC: Kinetics would rip this thing a new one.
Not against 16" of nanotubes.

Not that 16" of nanotubes is possible.

Not against 16" of nanotubes.

OOC: A 4 foot tungsten spike going God knows how fast would simply brute force it's way through that armor. Tungsten is such a strong material that it will virtually never shatter, in fact it is so strong it is near impossible to shape it.

Now, a larger 13 foot spike from a battleship rail driver would do even worse.

(OOC: If anything, they're great at parties.)

OOC: Me, Praetonia, and Verdant are disputing this. Currently, this model (Phase 1) is about 2030-2050 "tech", which is Post-Modern. However, Phase 2 should be somewhere closer to 2020 "tech". Sorry about the confusion.

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: Doomingsland
Leader's Name: Emperor Helldawg V
Type of Government: Imperial dictatorship
Population: 1.617 billion
Region Nation Resides Within: C A D
Number of DRGSes Requested: 5

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: Doomingsland
Leader's Name: Emperor Helldawg V
Type of Government: Imperial dictatorship
Population: 1.617 billion
Region Nation Resides Within: C A D
Number of DRGSes Requested: 5

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? Yes
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

It is a pleasure to serve Doomingsland. Your order of five (5) DRGSes is confirmed, and they will begin assembly and tests now.

OOC: Here's a tip to help with armor - you know that goop you can make with Borox and some other cleaning materials, that drips thinly through your fingers, but then if you punch it, you'd break you hand? Yeah, you could fill pockets of armor with it for about 100 dollars, and it'd stop most incoming objects, being that it tightens its molecular weave as more force is applied. Anyways, do you guys have MSN or AIM? You modern tech people are easier to talk to, being that I really don't give a damn about your international relations.

OOC: Here's a tip to help with armor - you know that goop you can make with Borox and some other cleaning materials, that drips thinly through your fingers, but then if you punch it, you'd break you hand? Yeah, you could fill pockets of armor with it for about 100 dollars, and it'd stop most incoming objects, being that it tightens its molecular weave as more force is applied. Anyways, do you guys have MSN or AIM? You modern tech people are easier to talk to, being that I really don't give a damn about your international relations.

My AIM is XxxNYSERxxX, but I don't currently have MSN. And I'm going to develop my own armor for Phase 2.

Bump.

Jeremiah Jenkins was sitting in his 'bureau' (An empty factory), giggling. Laughing.

He couldn't help it, it was just too funny.

Purifier. Translated as 'Der Reinigungsapparat'. I.. Can't... He laughed, again, having troubles with staying on his seat. For some reason, the floor seemed to be dangerously close.

When will they stop translating names into german just to make them sound more menacing? This is just... Dear god, this thing will win against people understanding its name simply because they couldn't aim due to their laughter.

He wasn't exactly wrong. 'Reinigungsapparat' was quite close (Though not identical) to 'Washing Machine', to 'Vacuum Cleaner' or 'Dishwasher'. In fact, it could fit all three, being the vague term it was.

But using such a name for a weapon was, well...

Jeremiah chuckled one last time. I guess Witzgall just managed to become an 'All your base'- esque gag in just about every nation with sizeable german- based groups in their population. They sure as hell are one over here.

Telegram for immediate dispatch to the offices of Muttia Incorporated

Greetings, I would like it known that you have piqued my interest in this machine. After some serious thought, I have decided upon purchasing two of these fine weapons. However, I do have one lingering concern: upon delivery of the two weapon system's, will we have free license to tinker with them as we see fit? There are several modifications that spring to mind that would very much more fit into my military.

May your fires burn long and hot.

http://maven.smith.edu/~bkrueger/5con/fire.jpg
Lord Purgatio de Flamma, the Purifying Flame

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Cultlands of Industrial Experiment
Leader's Name: Lord Purgatio de Flamma
Type of Government: Cult of the Purifying Flame Theocracy
Population: 516 Million (deceptive, as this is only a MT colony)
Region Nation Resides Within: Universe Space and Life
Number of DRGSes Requested: 2

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No (least not in this incarnation)
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

OOC: Der Angst, my population speaks German as their main language. I myself am 50% German.

Telegram for immediate dispatch to the offices of Muttia Incorporated

Greetings, I would like it known that you have piqued my interest in this machine. After some serious thought, I have decided upon purchasing two of these fine weapons. However, I do have one lingering concern: upon delivery of the two weapon system's, will we have free license to tinker with them as we see fit? There are several modifications that spring to mind that would very much more fit into my military.

May your fires burn long and hot.

http://maven.smith.edu/~bkrueger/5con/fire.jpg
Lord Purgatio de Flamma, the Purifying Flame

Application for Purchase

Basic Information
Nation Name: The Cultlands of Industrial Experiment
Leader's Name: Lord Purgatio de Flamma
Type of Government: Cult of the Purifying Flame Theocracy
Population: 516 Million (deceptive, as this is only a MT colony)
Region Nation Resides Within: Universe Space and Life
Number of DRGSes Requested: 2

Yes/No Questions
Has your nation ever been to war with another nation? No (least not in this incarnation)
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of communism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of fascism? No
Is your nation involved in/a supporter of terrorism? No

Industrial Experiment, your order of 2 DRGSes is confirmed. Lord Purgatio de Flamma, I assure you you will not be displeased with this product.

However, as per tinkering? Tinkering is fine, as well is modifications. However, we ask that you do not release your model for sale or export it to any other nations.

Bump.

bump

OOC: Der Angst, my population speaks German as their main language. I myself am 50% German.
Then they/ you're lacking practise. And yes, I do believe that I'm qualified enough to say this, given that I 1. Was born in Germany 2. Live in Germany 3. Have German citizenship 4. Speak German as my first language.

Other than that, don't you think that a bump thirteen minutes (And then, after another 24 minutes) after the last post is all so slightly... Spammy?

TAG for obvious reasons.

Bump.

OOC: Der Angst, my population speaks German as their main language. I myself am 50% German.



Industrial Experiment, your order of 2 DRGSes is confirmed. Lord Purgatio de Flamma, I assure you you will not be displeased with this product.

However, as per tinkering? Tinkering is fine, as well is modifications. However, we ask that you do not release your model for sale or export it to any other nations.

For immediate dispatch to the offices of Muttia Incorporated

I very much appreciate this, I will remember you and your company.

Also, I can assure you that I will not attempt to distribute any additional models I might make based on personal modifications.

Again, thank you.
http://maven.smith.edu/~bkrueger/5con/fire.jpg
The Lord Purgato de Flamma, the Purifying Flame

OoC: Basically all I intend to do is drop a bit of the armor and either replace the hydrocannon on one or make...other modifications to the unit.

For immediate dispatch to the offices of Muttia Incorporated

I very much appreciate this, I will remember you and your company.

Also, I can assure you that I will not attempt to distribute any additional models I might make based on personal modifications.

Again, thank you.
http://maven.smith.edu/~bkrueger/5con/fire.jpg
The Lord Purgato de Flamma, the Purifying Flame

OoC: Basically all I intend to do is drop a bit of the armor and either replace the hydrocannon on one or make...other modifications to the unit.

OOC: I just completed Phase Two...

OOC: I just completed Phase Two...

OoC: I'd love to see specs. If it's more MT than this one, then I'd be willing to change the order to two of the new ones...

OoC: I'd love to see specs. If it's more MT than this one, then I'd be willing to change the order to two of the new ones...

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8301506