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This is Commissar Alexai Boldun, Head of the Defense Directorate. For the past three years, a ship has loomed over the enemies of The Armed Union in naval battle. The ship has never been publicly acknowledged to exist, but our enemies have seen its might first hand. This ship, this... behemoth, is known as: The Totaltarian Class Command Dreadnaught. The TCCD was first designed by the Ruger Design Bureau under the former Marxist Regime. After the Czar took power, Ruger was allowed to make his own company: Ruger Industries. Eventually the corporation was nationalised and now works for the State. But, we wish to finally unvield the TCCD to the world:

The Totaltarian Class Command Dreadnaught
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Fascist_Confederacy/TotalitarianClass.jpg
Displacement: Light Displacement: 720234 tons
Full Displacement: 769231 tons
Dead Weight: 660980 tons

Length: Overall Length: 2900 ft
Waterline Length: 2000 ft

Beam: Extreme Beam: 210 ft
Waterline Beam: 240 ft

Draft: Maximum Navigational Draft: 40 ft
Draft Limit: 41 ft

Max Speed: 31 knots

Power Plant: Three Ruger Industries Nuclear Reactors

Armament: 100 - Tomahawk ASM/LAM - 10 (10 each) armored box launchers
100 - Harpoon ASM - 10 (10 each) quad cell launchers
5 - MA 9 - 26-inch Coraguns
8 - MA 20 - 15-inch Guns
10 - SA 6 - SAM Batteries
2 - SS 3 - Naval Mine Deployment Systems
6 - ASM SC 70 (Super-Cavitational Torpedos) Tubes
20 - AA 10 - 40mm fold out deck guns (Gatling guns, six barrels)
1 - BB 1 - Tungsten-ceramic hybrid battering bow

Combat Systems: SPS-49 Air Search Radar
SPS-67 Surface Search Radarearch Radar
5 MA 9 Gun Directors/Targeting
8 MA 20 Gun Directors/Targeting
SLQ-25 NIXIE
SLQ-32 EW system
SLS-69 ARDS (Anti-Radar Detection System)
SLS-75 FAW-JS (Frequency And Wavelength Jamming Systems)
SSS-40 Naval Defense System
Bandersnatch Offensive Array
Marionette Defense System

Aircraft: 13 Rotary Aircraft
57 Non-Rotary Aircraft

Crew: 3,100 ship's company
87 officers
1,699 enlisted
60 SPD

Builder(s): Ruger Industiries Kriegsmarine Shipyard 609

Three years ago, right after the top secret unvieling of the TCCD, Camel Eaters ordered the TCCD for an undisclosed price. He ordered four specific TCCD's. Finally, the powerful dreadnaught order is completed. The four ships will arrive at Camel Eaters within the next month. Thank you, good day.

OOC: THANK YOU SB FOR THE PIC! Lol. Comments? Questions? Critizism? Please don't be too harsh, this is my first real time designing a ship.

OOC: Up the displacement by about a factor of ten. Also, there is no way a ship that large is gonna go 45 knots. 32 is stretching it.

A 700 some meter ship with only 2000 crew? Is that right?

Secret IC:

I would be very interested in buying five of so of these fine vessels, or perhaps production rights. Either way, I would like to incorporate fine superdreadnoughts into my navy.

-Shah Khosru III

Class A Encrypted Telegram:
To: Shah Khosru III
From: Commissar Alexai Boldun

I would like to discuss your interests more privately (OOC: MSN) whenever it is able.

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OOC: Thanks Evil Woody Thoughts. And yes, the ship's company is rather correct considering alot of things are automated now adays. But merf. I also updated some things. These specs are still subject to change.

SECRET IC:

Woah. That is an impressive ship.....I'd like to discuss production rights, and the possible purchase of AT LEAST five of these babies.

Mai Nomura
Chief of JCS/Asst. Sec. of Defense
Demopublic of Upper Xen

Class A Encrypted Telegram:
To: Mai Nomura
From: Commissar Alexai Boldun

Though as of now we aren't selling production rights, or ships publicly except to extremely close allies. I would like to discuss this with you further. (OOC: If you don't have MSN Messenger, please try and get it and tell me your contact thing so I can add you.)

To: The Defense Directorate
From: The Department of Defense

The Imperial Commonwealth shows great interest in this Dreadnaught. We
have been trying to aquire a Doujin for a long time, but this proves to be
better then a Doujin. We wish to buy one, and only one to be the flagship of
the Home Fleet. Though we request that a white paintscheme is used instead
of the standard black. If not, we will paint it ourselves. We thank you if you
could sell us this Dreadnaught, if not we comment that it is a very good ship.
Admiral Wilhem von Sturben
Imperial Chancellor of Defense (http://encarta.msn.com/media_461515508/Admiral_George_Dewey.html)
http://img171.exs.cx/img171/7766/tior29nc.gif (http://www.imageshack.us)
Protector of the Seven Stars

OoC: Seeing as I can't get through to you on MSN, I'll just ask you here: do you have Soviet Bloc's permission to use his picture?

To: The Department of Defense
From: Commissar Alexai Boldun

We are willing to supply you with one TCCD in white for 500 Billion USD. It will take roughly 11 months to complete the task if you confirm this. The ship will be built all the same except, this export version will only have 70 Tomahawks and 50 Harpoon missiles and will not have the Bandersnatch Offense Array or Marionette Defense System.

OOC: Note: All people who have purchased the TCCD have recieved the export version.

OoC: Seeing as I can't get through to you on MSN, I'll just ask you here: do you have Soviet Bloc's permission to use his picture?

OOC: Do you not see the OOC comment at the bottom of the first post giving him credit? But yes, I do have his permission.

OOC: Do you not see the OOC comment at the bottom of the first post giving him credit? But yes, I do have his permission.

OoC: Oh okay then, just didn't want you stealing his stuff! And for future reference, place the credit under the pic so it's clearly a "thanks to whoever" thing.

Not getting at you, just helps for clarity - and thanks for clearing that up with me.

OoC: Oh okay then, just didn't want you stealing his stuff! And for future reference, place the credit under the pic so it's clearly a "thanks to whoever" thing.

Not getting at you, just helps for clarity - and thanks for clearing that up with me.

OOC: I understand. I wasn't mad--so to speak. Just people have asked me that before, so merf. Lol.

Official Reply:

Very well. Money transfered, thank you for selling us the Dreadnaught.
Department of Defense

OOC: I thought that was Soviet Bloc, as I'd seen a very similar pic before on the old, old OMP boards.

Anyway, get rid of either the 17" or the 23", the calibres are too close together and will cause fire control problems. Also, the guns, especially at the front, look WAY too close the bow / stern.

Out of interest, what is a "coragun" or an "electro-mag reactor"

Otherwise it's pretty good.

EDIT: Also, do you have info on the ship's armour.

OOC: I thought that was Soviet Bloc, as I'd seen a very similar pic before on the old, old OMP boards.

Anyway, get rid of either the 17" or the 23", the calibres are too close together and will cause fire control problems. Also, the guns, especially at the front, look WAY too close the bow / stern.

Out of interest, what is a "coragun" or an "electro-mag reactor"

Otherwise it's pretty good.

EDIT: Also, do you have info on the ship's armour.]

OOC: I like the calibers that close, so merf. Lol. And the reason its alright for them to be so close to the front, is because of the ships width.

The coragun and electro-magnetic reactor were researched at about the same time: November 2004.

Coragun: First, coils within the barrel activate for .25 miliseconds allowing the shell to 'hover' in the chamber, drasticly reducing wear and tear. Then, for .25 miliseconds, smaller coils or rails at the entire length of the barrel activate, accelerating the shell to extreme velocities. This function is alternated several times during firing.

The heating issue is stop by a constant flow of super-cooled water provided as the byproduct of the guns hydrogen fuel cell generators. The hydrogen fuel generators produce water as a byproduct, instead of carbon monoxide of conventional gases/oil turbo engines used in conventional tanks and diesel propulsion.

The fluid itself is super-cooled through two large liquid nitrogen 'coolers' and is forced into the area of the barrel just between the magentic coils and the hollow interior of the barrel where the projectiles are fired. The super-cooled water dissipates the heat, then the heated water is recycled back into the nitrogen 'coolers' along with newly generated water.

The EM Reactor: Basic physics. Liquid nickel is pumped via a 'kick start' from a nuclear reactor over a solid iron orb. Thus single revolution causes what the earth is powered on: An electro-magnetic field. Collectors syphon the electricity in 'static discharge' and use it to power the ship. The enormous magnetic energy is dampened through several layers of ceramics and what not (Not sure at the moment, I'd have to go back and look at the old thread for the exact specs on the shielding). Several nations helped fund both.

What program did you use to make the picture? I have had a Super-Dreadnought for awhile but never had a chance to design it out of my head. I would advise to up the crew a bit still, and make displacement about 900,000-1,000,000 range, give so information on armour also, and i'd say it's good. Nice job on joining the Super-Dreadnought club though. ;P

OOC:....REFER TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST POST. I DIDN'T MAKE THE DAMN PICTURE AND I'AM IGNORING ANYONE WHO INFERS THAT I DID FROM NOW FORWARD...

He used MS Paint.

Edit: Sorry for yelling, just I'm tired of people infering I made the picture. I doubt I'll release any specs on the hull/armour.

OOC:....REFER TO THE BOTTOM OF THE FIRST POST. I DIDN'T MAKE THE DAMN PICTURE AND I'AM IGNORING ANYONE WHO INFERS THAT I DID FROM NOW FORWARD...

He used MS Paint.

Edit: Sorry for yelling, just I'm tired of people infering I made the picture. I doubt I'll release any specs on the hull/armour.

Sorry, I skimmed through it and didn't notice. MY BAD.

OOC: Praetonia's right about the calibres being too close together. They create a fire control issue (which translates to not being able to make adjustments to correct any firing mishaps because of the lack of appreciable difference between a 23 inch gun and a 17 inch gun.

The calibres themselves are unusual sizes. IRL, most gun sizes are in even numbers after about five inches and no sizes above 15 inches are odd numbered sizes. In NS, most gun sizes are even numbers after about 15 inches. That can create a logistical issue with building the weaponry needed for those ships. The need for easier logistics is a reason for building standard sizes for guns/missiles/etc.

The crew complement is much too low. I can appreciate heavy automation, but the crew should be at least twice the size you have it. Also, a ship of that size is most likely going to need more than two nuclear reactors to get it to the 31 knots you are proposing. As for aircraft, if you're looking to project air power, you should do so from an aircraft carrier, not a battleship.

Other than that, it looks pretty good. I'm glad you included the explanation of the technology. That's a big help IMO.

OOC: Its not so much a battleship as a command vessel. Its alot for intimidation. Its also not a major aircraft launching vessel either. But, merf, I'll ajust some things.

I wish to have 5 of these babies as the Flagships for my 5 Fleets please