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Religion banned in the ECF.

East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 20:50
Federation News Network FNN:

Today in an surprising move by the federal goverment. Religion of any kind has been banned in the federation.

Religion of any type is here by outlawed. And is punishable by death.

President Lawerance will be adressing the nation later tonight.

And this inculdes all 20 Systems in Federation Territory.
Romandeos
23-02-2005, 20:54
His Majesty considers this a blatant violation of human rights, but we aren't in a position to stop you, so we shall simply offer to accept refugees who do not wish to comply with your banning of religion.

~ Prime Minister Taunja Lockeheart of the Kingdom of Romandeos.
East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 21:18
To Prime Minister Taunja Lockeheart-

I am sorry to have offended you. However we are capable of going anywhere in the universe. We understand how everything works.

Prehaps once your nation advances ( I'm FT, I dont know about you though ) and your people understand the workings of this universe. You will understand that a higher power does not exist.

Any refugee's are to be exucuted or sent to a re education center in sector 2.
Mikatopia
23-02-2005, 21:40
From : President Mikatopian Verbal Fenster

While the Independent Nation of Mikatopia disagrees greatly with the decsion of the ECF, we believe it is not our right to intervene in another nation's affairs unless it is a threat to us. If the people of the ECF wish for change, then they will gain it one way or another.

Note to all other nations: Though Mikatiopia is gravely disappointed with the ECF, any military agression toward this sovereign state because of their decsion will be met with by Mikatopian military action. Though Mikatopia and the ECF are not in a state of alliance by any means, we respect their rights as a legitimate sovergein body.
Haxxoristan
23-02-2005, 22:15
After due consideration, the Legislative Assembly of Haxxoristan has ruuberstamped my...I mean, VOTED, to approve and endorse your actions. This is a major step forward, and the Legislative Assembly is working on rubberstamping...I mean, VOTING, on banning religion in Haxxoristan as well.
East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 22:46
President Lawrance:

We thank you for your kind words. I'm working on my speech tonight.

As we speak Chistirans,Jews,Muslims,Ect are being rounded up and sent to " re education " centers.
East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 23:44
FNN News:

In Another Shocking Move. All Chruchs/Temples/Mosches(SP) are being torn down as we speak!

Steven Corbair Is live at a scene.

Steven: * camera Pans out to show burning church *

As you can see, the Final Remnants of the sickness known as " Religion " is finally being destoryed. Only 6% of the population had anything to do with this. And they will be re educated, or exucted however the people see fit. Back to you.

Anchor: In other news, the federation Fleet is being recalled, tomarrow we will have the..........
Foxstenikopolis
23-02-2005, 23:53
This is an evil violation of human rights! We will be prepared to except refugees, and if things are too out of hand there, we will support any movement to bring better government.
Foxstenikopolis
23-02-2005, 23:55
FNN News:

In Another Shocking Move. All Chruchs/Temples/Mosches(SP) are being torn down as we speak!

Steven Corbair Is live at a scene.

Steven: * camera Pans out to show burning church *

As you can see, the Final Remnants of the sickness known as " Religion " is finally being destoryed. Only 6% of the population had anything to do with this. And they will be re educated, or exucted however the people see fit. Back to you.

Anchor: In other news, the federation Fleet is being recalled, tomarrow we will have the..........

You will have the what? the what?

btw, what does sp stand for?
East Coast Federation
23-02-2005, 23:56
It means that only 6% of the people in my nation beleived in some kind of god, and SP means Spellcheck, Kuz I'm unsure how to spell that properly.
Foxstenikopolis
24-02-2005, 00:00
It means that only 6% of the people in my nation beleived in some kind of god, and SP means Spellcheck, Kuz I'm unsure how to spell that properly.

Ok, here's your spellcheck. :) Churches, Temples, and Mosques. And what do you almost have, nukes?
Xessmithia
24-02-2005, 00:07
OOC: Tommorow we will have the official results of the giant cockfight that happened downtown. It's just a turn of phrase.

IC: As an ally we urge the ECF to just send the religious folk on colony ships and let them form their own nation. There is no need to execute or "re-educate" them. We have no comment on the actual banning of religion.
Kariyakistan
24-02-2005, 00:18
Kariyakistan will be ready to support Fox and rebels if needed. We will declare Jihad to free our brothers in ECF if needed! We will not let this violation of human rights get past us!
TehInterwebGame
24-02-2005, 00:24
We support yo ass and are ready to give you lots and lots of surplus weapons for crushing the skulls and vaporizing teh bodies of those damn religious nutsos!

~Admiral Bob
East Coast Federation
24-02-2005, 01:39
OOC: Forgive me for the spelling, But I do get MS word Tomarrow!

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Yeah Ok, Because we all know what Nukes would do to my nation. Considering IF you can get them into space, and millions of lightyears away from earth.
Romandeos
24-02-2005, 01:59
His Majesty has instructed me to inform you that your people are a marked race, and that the Kingdom shall oppose the ECF whenever possible without bloodshed until you begin to accept religion once more.

~ Prime Minister Taunja Lockeheart of the Kingdom of Romandeos.

OOC: I'm MT right now, but I shall soon be breaking out into early FT.
Neo-Tiburon
24-02-2005, 02:09
Official Message from the United Republics of Tiburon

The United Republics of Tiburon, while a nation populated largely by athiests, respects the fundamental right of the freedom of religion of all people, and condemns this act by the East Coast Federation. Although we, at this time, are unable to do anything in the way of military action, our borders will remain open for any refugee- whether religious or not.
East Coast Federation
24-02-2005, 02:32
His Majesty has instructed me to inform you that your people are a marked race, and that the Kingdom shall oppose the ECF whenever possible without bloodshed until you begin to accept religion once more.

~ Prime Minister Taunja Lockeheart of the Kingdom of Romandeos.

OOC: I'm MT right now, but I shall soon be breaking out into early FT.

OCC: Not a good idea, You'd be facing about 1,000 ships that are pretty advanced as far as FT goes. But I'd love to do an 1st contact RP.

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President: Bring it on, prehaps it's time you learned a bit more. I will be making an formal announcement soon, but heres a little factoid for you.

These people are not peaceful, Train Bombings, Gasings, Fights in the street, public Hangings, very few of these followers were peaceful. And several goverment run churchs will be built. But the violent ones, must be put to death.
Neo Zeta
24-02-2005, 02:47
Neo Zeta dose not see this as a evil act like some other nations. We even tho haveing a state relgion and seeing much of what space has to offer knows that relgion needs to be State controled or banned out right. Good job on seeing the light.

Signed-Jace Parker Leader of Neo Zeta
TehInterwebGame
24-02-2005, 22:03
You want any weapons? We've got lots and lots.
East Coast Federation
24-02-2005, 22:09
OOC: The ECF has to reinstalled windows, for a normal acconcement comes tonight.

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No, Our fleet greatly outnumbers yours ( and it does ).

And considering I AM an arms dealer.
Romandeos
24-02-2005, 22:11
OCC: Not a good idea, You'd be facing about 1,000 ships that are pretty advanced as far as FT goes. But I'd love to do an 1st contact RP.

OOC: I didn't say I intended to fight you right when I moved on to the FT set, and I would love to do a First Contact RP once I do become FT.
TehInterwebGame
24-02-2005, 22:31
No, Our fleet greatly outnumbers yours ( and it does ).



I certainly doubt it. But to each their own.
East Coast Federation
24-02-2005, 22:33
OOC: How can a 3 month old nation be able to support a larger fleet than a 15 month old nation?
The Parthians
24-02-2005, 22:50
Can I have all your Zoroastrians?

-Shah Khosru III
East Coast Federation
24-02-2005, 23:32
What the hell is that?

- President
The Parthians
24-02-2005, 23:48
What the hell is that?

- President

The religion of Parthia (OOC: Its the religion of Pre-Islamic Iran, and still alive today with 15,000 in Iran and 90,000 in India and about 20,000 more around the world)
Tocrowkia
24-02-2005, 23:50
The Divine Emperor of Tocrowkia is appaled. May the divine light of God come down and burn you're eyes and skin like fire, you heathens.
East Coast Federation
25-02-2005, 02:15
* looks up in the sky *

If your people have been exploring the universe for as long as we have, you would know that no higher power exists.

-President
Kanuckistan
25-02-2005, 03:34
OOCly notes that Kanuckistan is a mostly-democratic quasi-theocracy, is ruled by a God-Emperor, and the home-grown religon has a very real afterlife. ;)

We understand how everything works.



Offical Statment, Uniphase Armouries Interversal Corperate Headquarters. Text-Only.


-You know less than you can possibly realise about the workings of the universe.

-We sugest you deport the religous elements of your population, if you are so shallow in tollerance as to be unable to co-exist. Prehaps give them to us.

-It would be best for all concerned.

-Especially you.

-Don't make me push The Button. Your navy would not apreciate it.





Offical Statment from Kanuckistan:

It would be unfortunate if any of our devout citizens were mistreated in this affair; in the interest of your health, and that of your fellow countrymen, I strongly sugest that you move heaven and earth if necessary, to insure that does not happen.

And if it is not arrogance that drives your disbelife, then you would be well served by a trip to our lands; a trip to a Shrine of the Dead would likly prove enlightening.


Signed:
Bob McBob
Minister of the Exterrior
Kanuckistan
TehInterwebGame
25-02-2005, 03:38
OOC: How can a 3 month old nation be able to support a larger fleet than a 15 month old nation?

OOC: Simple. This isn't my FIRST nation. This is simply a refugee nation from my old one. Around 80%-85% of my old fleet survived.
Tocrowkia
25-02-2005, 04:06
* looks up in the sky *

If your people have been exploring the universe for as long as we have, you would know that no higher power exists.

-President


Perhaps if you used the brain that God had given you, Heathen, you would know that God and Heaven do not even exist in our plain of reality.
Xenonier
25-02-2005, 10:34
While we do veiw this as a breach of Human rights, the Eas Coast Federation hardly deserves the negative attention they are getting. After all, it's nicer for them to ensure their population doesn't live a lie, and considering we have the same policiy, and even more extensive technology to prove it, we cannt really find flaw in this pronounciation.

Arkady Gregorovich, President Speaker of Xenonier.
East Coast Federation
25-02-2005, 22:09
OOCly notes that Kanuckistan is a mostly-democratic quasi-theocracy, is ruled by a God-Emperor, and the home-grown religon has a very real afterlife. ;)




Offical Statment, Uniphase Armouries Interversal Corperate Headquarters. Text-Only.





Offical Statment from Kanuckistan:

It would be unfortunate if any of our devout citizens were mistreated in this affair; in the interest of your health, and that of your fellow countrymen, I strongly sugest that you move heaven and earth if necessary, to insure that does not happen.

And if it is not arrogance that drives your disbelife, then you would be well served by a trip to our lands; a trip to a Shrine of the Dead would likly prove enlightening.


Signed:
Bob McBob
Minister of the Exterrior
Kanuckistan

OOC: My nation is mostly athiest, and the relgious folk, are responsible for a good deal of of violance.

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If you want them that bad, I dont see why not.

The President
Kanuckistan
26-02-2005, 09:46
OOC: My nation is mostly athiest, and the relgious folk, are responsible for a good deal of of violance.

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If you want them that bad, I dont see why not.

The President

OOC:
Is this response to UAI or the Kanuckistani government? They're two very different things.
East Coast Federation
26-02-2005, 14:51
OOC: Oops, Well who wants them more?
Kanuckistan
28-02-2005, 15:24
OOC: Oops, Well who wants them more?


OOC:
UAI asked for them; Kanuckistan only threatened to burn you from the face of the universe if you harmed any of their citizens.

UAI, however, is a corperate entity, so I was unsure if you wanted to turn the folks over to them or an actual national government.
East Coast Federation
28-02-2005, 15:42
OOC: I'd rather send it to an actual goverment, I'd rather not give them to some company.

Plus I dont live on earth anyway, so your citizens couldn't be harmed anyway
.

Shitty IC:

Travel to Sigma Octovasis, * sends map * Stay 3 lightyears away from the Base. And the refugee's will be sent on transports to your ships.
Kanuckistan
28-02-2005, 18:22
OOC: I'd rather send it to an actual goverment, I'd rather not give them to some company.

Plus I dont live on earth anyway, so your citizens couldn't be harmed anyway
.


OOC:
My citizens aren't confined to Earth(less than a tenth of my pop actually lives there); if your boarders aren't closed, and you're not a shithole nation, there's a fair chance a few might be in your nation for business, tourism, passing through with their freighters to trade, catching a connecting flight to another destination, etc.

Yer call, however.


Shitty IC:

Travel to Sigma Octovasis, * sends map * Stay 3 lightyears away from the Base. And the refugee's will be sent on transports to your ships.

The refugee transport KCV Stowaway has been contracted and will be by shortly for the first load, as well as to assess additional transport requiorments, if any.

Signed:
http://tinypic.com/1y1t79
Minister Bob McBob,
Department of External Affairs,
Kanuckistan
East Coast Federation
28-02-2005, 22:31
OOC: I exist in the multi universe, it is a shithole communist nation, and the borders are closed. But Meh, someo of them probably doing business in one of my shipyards in normal space. So they would be unharmed.
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Shitty IC:

Take them. Heed this warning, 85% of them have been invovled in some sort of murder. Usally we wouldn't care about reglion, but when there are constant bombing and homicides, it can becmoe a problem. I'm sending there records to you now.
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 12:56
OOC: I exist in the multi universe, it is a shithole communist nation, and the borders are closed. But Meh, someo of them probably doing business in one of my shipyards in normal space. So they would be unharmed.
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Shitty IC:

Take them. Heed this warning, 85% of them have been invovled in some sort of murder. Usally we wouldn't care about reglion, but when there are constant bombing and homicides, it can becmoe a problem. I'm sending there records to you now.



Sufficed to say, our refugee policies are designed to handle potentially dangerous individuals and large groups thereof.

Signed:
http://tinypic.com/1y1t79
Minister Bob McBob,
Department of External Affairs,
Kanuckistan

OOC:
So how many folks am I taking off your hands?
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 14:01
OOC: About 12 Million. I dont have anything agiesnt religion in RL, this is just the next step of me becomming a paranoid dictatorship with mind police. And public beatings/ect
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Some of them are very violent. However most are not. I reccoment you send more ships than that. Or this could take awhile.
Derscon
01-03-2005, 14:18
OOC: You are VERY lucky you are Future Tech, otherwise I'd see to it your nation was wiped off the face of the earth.
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This blatant attack on our Brothers in the Lord is heresy and the work of satan! I call ALL of my God-fearing brothers to unite under the banner of our Lord and crush these heretics and satanists!
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 14:19
OOC: About 12 Million. I dont have anything agiesnt religion in RL, this is just the next step of me becomming a paranoid dictatorship with mind police. And public beatings/ect
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Some of them are very violent. However most are not. I reccoment you send more ships than that. Or this could take awhile.


The Stowaway is capible of accomidating upwards of a million persons for a few days; not very comfortibly, but no worse than 'roughing it in the woods'.

As she's equiped with displacers, round trips should be in the neighbourhood of 2-3 days, most of that being loading/offloading; if you can wait an IC month, we can have them out of your hands without risk of overloading our refugee processing facilities.

Signed:
http://tinypic.com/1y1t79
Minister Bob McBob,
Department of External Affairs,
Kanuckistan
The Imperial Navy
01-03-2005, 14:20
The Empire has little care for religion, though it is still permitted. Perhaps as long as the fools have blind faith, they will obey.
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 14:31
The Stowaway is capible of accomidating upwards of a million persons for a few days; not very comfortibly, but no worse than 'roughing it in the woods'.

As she's equiped with displacers, round trips should be in the neighbourhood of 2-3 days, most of that being loading/offloading; if you can wait an IC month, we can have them out of your hands without risk of overloading our refugee processing facilities.

Signed:
http://tinypic.com/1y1t79
Minister Bob McBob,
Department of External Affairs,
Kanuckistan

OOC: Derscon-Go FT and piss of the GE and see what happens :p
, Didn't I just say that in RL I dont have anything aganist relegion? Kanuckistan- Yeah that sounds ok. They'll be provided with 1st class Acomdations.
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Shitty IC:
Kanuckistan- Of crouse, that wont be a problem at all. Take your time. We'll see to it that they are provided the proper acomdations until this operation is over.
Derscon- We do not want primitives messing around with internal affairs, ( plus that you would have no way to send me a message anyway )
Mykonians
01-03-2005, 14:39
H1-78 downloaded the report into his neural net, and waited for a few nanoseconds whilst new pathways were created. He made a curious 'hmm' sound after he had analysed the report, three seconds after it had been given to him, and looked up at H2-3918.

"I have heard the reference to 'God' before when dealing with organics," H1-78 said. "Has any information regarding this 'God' been obtained?"

"Fragments only," H2-3918 said. "Theories based on known organic psychological behaviour propose that this 'God' might be a reference to some fictitious super-organic organism that spawned them all. Existence of this super-organic has never been proved or disproved, however, and there is insufficient data to even consider such a possibility to begin with. The organics believe their super-organic to be omnipotent and omniscient, and are typically submissive to it and demonstrate this submissive behaviour through worship and offerings; typical pack-behaviour of the humanoid organic.
"Regardless, our science units have attempted methods of contacting this super-organic should it be in another dimension, but thus far they have found nothing. It has been deemed to be false information and subsequently dismissed."

"You would think any omnipotent super-organic would make the organics a little less flawed, would yuou not?" H1-78 remarked. "Perhaps some form of protective shell or a faster computational centre."

"Unless the super-organic itself was similarly flawed," H2-3918 said. "Organics are incapable of designing their offspring as we are; they must rely on biological evolution. Either way, it is of no concern. Should this report be dealt with?"

"Why?" H1-78 asked. "Organics invariably slaughter each other due to their primitive excuse for intellect and reliance on animal instincts. If they wish to terminate each other due to their belief, or lack thereof, in a fictitious super-organic, that is their concern. They are beyond help.
"No, I will upload the report into the central database and that will be the end of it. Also, ask the scout ship to return home; there is no sense in exposing the poor ship to any similarly barbaric acts."

"I will attend to it then," H2-3918 said, and went about his business. H1-78 slotted a finger into a computer port and uploaded the report, filing it under 'Examples of Organic Barbarism; Volume 1,728', and then continued with what he was doing before.
Derscon
01-03-2005, 14:49
OOC: Derscon-Go FT and piss of the GE and see what happens :p

GE?

Didn't I just say that in RL I dont have anything aganist relegion?
That's fine, but if you were my genre, I'd wipe you off the face of the planet. :D

We do not want primitives messing around with internal affairs

Primitives? Typical response from people like you. And it BECOMES business when innocent people die.

OOC: plus that you would have no way to send me a message anyway )

Actually, I would. I have multiple allies who are futuretech, and I communicate with them. Also, I intend on going into space upon the next Czar's coronation in a few days, but it will be an obviously slow process.
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 14:57
GE?


That's fine, but if you were my genre, I'd wipe you off the face of the planet. :D



Primitives? Typical response from people like you. And it BECOMES business when innocent people die.



Actually, I would. I have multiple allies who are futuretech, and I communicate with them. Also, I intend on going into space upon the next Czar's coronation in a few days, but it will be an obviously slow process.


GE= Probably the most powerful alliance in FT, expect the ESUS, but I dont count them anymore. They dont RP.

You could try, and piss off my about 20 of my allies.

Your not FT yet.

If you want to do FT, go for it no one is stopping you.
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 17:02
... expect the ESUS, but I dont count them anymore. They dont RP.


Many of our members activly RP; the alliance itself, however, is primarily defencive in nature, and so you'll usually only see it act as a whole when someone comes guning for it.
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 17:04
OOC: I know but as an alliance they have not done jack shit in a long time. And I need some feed backage http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=400875
> no clue what is doing
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 17:36
OOC: I know but as an alliance they have not done jack shit in a long time. And I need some feed backage http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=400875
> no clue what is doing

OOC:
The only thing the alliance 'does' is defend it's members from outside agression, and there hasn't been much to respond to for a long time.

There are some plans being tossed around to get the alliance as a whole moving, however.

As for your ship, eh, nothing seems blaintently wrong, but I only took a glance; I don't like judging other folks FT ships.

But did you have to call it the 'Clinton'? That's such a lame name for a warship!
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 17:40
OOC:
The only thing the alliance 'does' is defend it's members from outside agression, and there hasn't been much to respond to for a long time.

There are some plans being tossed around to get the alliance as a whole moving, however.

As for your ship, eh, nothing seems blaintently wrong, but I only took a glance; I don't like judging other folks FT ships.

But did you have to call it the 'Clinton'? That's such a lame name for a warship!
OOC: Theres another One, An older version. It's just the Class name. Kuz it goes back to when I was MT. I was thinking about naming the new one " Planet Burner " But please point stuff out, I need advice. The one I bought from you is named the Avenger .
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 18:00
OOC: Theres another One, An older version. It's just the Class name. Kuz it goes back to when I was MT. I was thinking about naming the new one " Planet Burner " But please point stuff out, I need advice. The one I bought from you is named the Avenger .

OOC:

Avenger? What's wrong with Pyric Divinity? The first ship of a new class generally has the same name as the class itself, afterall.

And Planet Burner? Use a little flair and imagination, boy!
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 18:05
OOC:

Avenger? What's wrong with Pyric Divinity? The first ship of a new class generally has the same name as the class itself, afterall.

And Planet Burner? Use a little flair and imagination, boy!
OOC: I thought there was more than one, so Pyric Divinity it is. Now could I use some feedback? I've never gone around building somthing that large ( expect the 1st one, but it was a differenet kind oof ship ) I need a bit of advice on it. Pyric Divinity sounds like some kind of God That comes down and eats you.

Planet Burner, The main cannon can burn off all organic life on a planet? So why not?
Kanuckistan
01-03-2005, 18:34
Pyric Divinity sounds like some kind of God That comes down and eats you.


Yes. Yes it does. That's the idea. ;)


Planet Burner, The main cannon can burn off all organic life on a planet? So why not?

Because it sounds mundane; 'planet' and 'burner' are common words, used simply. Try and spice it up a little.

For example, look at some of the ship and class names I've used;
-Jagged Razor of Methodical Dismemberment
-Fell Warden
-Inferiority Complex
-Devourer of Wayward Souls
-Spear of Bitter Mercy
-Blood of Saints
-Purveyor of Entropy
-Of Fire and Void
-Daggerfall
-Pyrrhic Scyth
-Suicidal Audacity

Just don't copy mine or I'll eat your soul. ;)


Now could I use some feedback? I've never gone around building somthing that large ( expect the 1st one, but it was a differenet kind oof ship ) I need a bit of advice on it.


I don't like to critique other FT ships because there's alot of leeway in what could be apropriate, depending on how much 'effort and expense' the ship represents, how conservitivly(if at all) it will be employed, and even just varriance in personal opinion.

I don't see any obvious flaws, but some of what the others are saying may bear consideration.
East Coast Federation
01-03-2005, 18:39
OOC: Yeah, I thought the crew needed to get bigger. And I dont know if 220 Petatons ( is that how you spell it? ) is a good enough sheilding systems.

Dammit! I cant think of anything creative! * hides in a coner and cries *
Derscon
01-03-2005, 22:10
GE= Probably the most powerful alliance in FT, expect the ESUS, but I dont count them anymore. They dont RP.

Ah, you're part of the Galactic Empire, okay.

You could try, and piss off my about 20 of my allies.

Again, if you were mod-tech, I'd kick you. :) FT I'm not too smart with, as I'm not a nerd. :p

If you want to do FT, go for it no one is stopping you.

I intend to, but I'd like to RP the process instead of saying "I'm FT now," know what I mean?