NationStates Jolt Archive


Geogolical Scientific Endeavor

Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:15
As the prime-minister of Killenezstan I hereby announce the most ambitious endevour of geological science...ever.

Due to the recent discovery of vast uranium mines in our nations tropical forests. Killenezstan has manufactured the largest hydrogen bomb...ever. According to our nuclear engineers the TEI or terracore energy inducer is cabable of delivering over 200 trillion megatons, enough to evacuate all water from the atlantic ocean.

Our most skilled geogical engineers are currently making preparations for an extremely advanced boreing device guided by a space-based navigation system similar to the GPS. This advanced navigation is necessary because of the varying gravitational forces as the boreing device makes its way to the center of the earth. Appon arrival the TEI will activate and our sensors will begin monitoring the geological consequences of introducing such a massive amount of energy into the core.

The Killenezstan scientific community awaits with great anticipation the results of this investigation. Finally the world will know the truth about nuclear weapons in the center of the earth. Some certain dissenting scientists tell me this could do the entire planet, but like any good scientist knows, there only way to know anything is to try it.

Pursuing the Truth
Prime-Minister of Killenezstan
Reginold Killenekovskavich
A Few Rich People
21-02-2005, 01:20
The consequences will be bad. We of the Mikosolf Corporation ask that you stop this foolhardy experiment before you kill the planet.
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:23
Dear Sir,
While I respect your right to voice your opposition in this matter I believe you should reinforce your knowledge of the geological sciences. The planet is not "A living thing" and therefor it cannot be killed.

Thank you for your concern.

Reginold Killenekovskavich
Theao
21-02-2005, 01:26
While not able to kill the planet you may destroy the planet or render it unihabitable.
Red Tide2
21-02-2005, 01:27
OOC:Okay... you look like a good RPer so I will state this simply.

1:According to your join date you couldnt manufacture a 1 kiloton fission device... much less a 100 trillion megation bomb.

2:Such a bomb is impossible to build via todays methods, the resources, technology, and money required to do this are so far out of reach we wouldnt be able to get there by the time the sun explodes.

3: Do you know how big such a bomb would be? The Tsar Bomba was 68 megatons and it couldnt fit inside a B-52. This kind of bomb would have to be so big, that it would crush the entire region your in.
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:28
Reginold Killenekovskavich
Prime-Minister of Killenezstan,

Firstly I would like to congratulate you on entering the world of scientific discovery. I hope you will find it to be an intriguing and worthwhile experience and expenditure.

Futhermore, I wish you good luck on your endeavor and eagerly await to hear news of your findings.

Sincerely,
Harold Didgery
Minister of Science, The Federation of Bacania
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:33
Reginold Killenekovskavich
Prime-Minister of Killenezstan,

I have been instructed by our Emperor Brian I to assist you in any way possible. I therefore am extending you the right to use any of the land beneath Bacania for the purpose of this endeavor.

May this be a great sucess that both our nations can be proud of.

Sincerely,
Nigel Gladwell
Minister of Foreign Affairs, The Federation of Bacania
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:34
Dear Sir,
I am offended by your lack of faith in my nations engineers. Our entire nation has devoted its efforts toward the misunderstood ambition.

I bid sir a good day.
Red Tide2
21-02-2005, 01:37
OOC:If that was directed at me... First off that was a OOC post. You responded with a IC post. You should NEVER do that. Second, It doesnt matter how good your engineers are. You still lack the money, resources, and technology for this kind of thing. As a matter of fact... this is what we like to call.... GODMODDING! Read the stickies for christ sakes!
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:39
While not able to kill the planet you may destroy the planet or render it unihabitable.

I hate to be a spoil sport, but I feel the use of nonrenewable energy sources is more of a threat to rendering the planet uninhabitable than our harmless scientific experiment.
Theao
21-02-2005, 01:41
If you detonate a massive nuclear device inside the planet it would most likely cause it to go boom. That is what he is proposing
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:42
Dear Superior Gamer,
I wish to respond sincerly to your claims on my lack of manufacturing power, however I am unable to decipher the term "RPer" please explain the nature of this term so I may respond to your accusations properly.

Thank you.


IC
PS: What the hell are "Stickies"?
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:44
If you detonate a massive nuclear device inside the planet it would most likely cause it to go boom. That is what he is proposing

This is what nuclear devices typically do ("go boom"). The question is what effect will this "go boom" have on the planet. This is precisely what our nations intend to find out.
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:47
Dear Nigel Gladwell,
The citizens of Killenzstan are overjoyed to hear of your full cooperation in this wonderful endevour. We greatly appreciate your efforts to accomidate an endeavor of this magnitude.

With great thanks
Reginold Killenekovskavich
Theao
21-02-2005, 01:48
Yes and we're saying it will make the planet go boom with it.
A comparison a firecracker in a closed hand will do a lot off damage. If you detonate an explosive in a small area the damage is quite a bit more.
Red Tide2
21-02-2005, 01:48
OOC:RPer stands for Role Player. To put it simply its a person who is in a role play story. As for stickies. That is short for the term 'Sticky Threads', they are the threads at the top of the forum with the word 'sticky' next to them and they never go away. The specific stickie I should direct you too is 'What Godmodding is'. Second off. You have 5 million-30 million people(I know this because of your join date). You CANNOT have a manufacturing capability that not even future techers have.
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:49
Yes and we're saying it will make the planet go boom with it.
A comparison a firecracker in a closed hand will do a lot off damage. If you detonate an explosive in a small area the damage is quite a bit more.

I feel the planet's interior is a rather large area, don't you?
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 01:52
Dear Sir,
Your concerns about the planet "going boom" are heard and understoood. However I understood your concerns in the first post. I need no further explanation of this concept and would appreciate an immediate squelching of what everyone already knows.

Shut up.
Bacania
21-02-2005, 01:58
OOC:
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2005026103019.gif
Schultaria Prime
21-02-2005, 01:59
OOC:

Using Einstein's mass to energy equation, in order to generate the energy necessary to develop a detonation equivalent to 2 * 10^20 tons of TNT high explosive would require slightly more than 93.1 billion kilograms of material converting COMPLETELY (with no deficiencies in conversion) into pure energy. Even in the most efficient theoretical nuclear weapon designs of today, efficiency rarely exceeds 40% (and is still considered by some scientists to be at the absolute limit of modern technology), requiring an additional 139.65 billion kilograms of material to generate such a reaction by modern methods. Therefore if you have in your possession over 12.2 million cubic meters of refined fissile material assembled into such a device that could render fission of this magnitude feasible, it would be so large that the device would explode under its own assemblage given the current geometries of nuclear weapons.
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 02:03
Dear Sir,
I pity your nation in that it has not discovered nuclear fusion. Perhaps we could enlighten your scientific community on the subject in exchange for manufacturing facilites in your industrial sector.
Red Tide2
21-02-2005, 02:06
OOC: Dude.... that INCLUDES nuclear fusion!
Theao
21-02-2005, 02:11
Using these sites a 200 trillion megatons would be sufficiant to completely destroy the earth. And that would be for an airburst nuke.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/RicardoMartinez.shtml
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html
http://www.jimloy.com/math/billion.htm
Schultaria Prime
21-02-2005, 02:17
(Out Of Character) OOC:

I'll take the comment of post #21 as directed to me.

Your following post has several fallacies which I would like to point out; please keep in mind that this is in no way attempting to insult, degrade, or make light of your current knowledge of the subject of energy production. However, I feel that there are gaps in your knowledge base which might need to be rectified in order to make your devices appear more feasible in this world.

1. Einstein's mass to energy equation (E = mc^2) is the definitive equation in determining how much energy can be produced by physical matter. If you have a certain amount of matter, it will produce a maximum amount of energy which can not be exceeded due to limitations of energy physics.

2. Nuclear fusion, while considerably more efficient than its fissile counterpart, still pales in comparison to Einstein's energy equation. My above post included that the best 40% efficiency designs are with current nuclear weapon (i.e. Fission-Fusion-Fission) designs.

3. With the laws of thermodynamics as they stand today, there will always be inefficiency in any system involving the transfer of energy. Coupled with the limitations imposed by (E = mc^2), your device would have to be of an unusually significant size and dimension which would make its construction nigh impossible with modern physical calculations.
Killenezstan
21-02-2005, 02:19
Using these sites a 200 trillion megatons would be sufficiant to completely destroy the earth. And that would be for an airburst nuke.
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999...oMartinez.shtml
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html
http://www.jimloy.com/math/billion.htm


Dear sir,
Please forgive my earlier post. I sincerly appologize for my manner of speach. I have review the sources that your scientific community has presented me. I have however been insured by my scientists that they use that American system and are not "douchebags" like those Europeans.

Thank you for your scientific sources.
A Few Rich People
21-02-2005, 04:58
Destroy the Earth? But thats where I keep all my stuff.

-The Tick